In this article I want to touch on the very difficult, almost unbearable, full of contradictions and subtleties topic of choice between Nikon System and Canon System... This part of the 'confrontations' will only touch on the topic relatives discrete (i.e., fixed) autofocus lenses that are suitable, or may be suitable for portrait shooting.
Confrontation systems Nikon / Canon. Part 1. Discrete portraiture. This picture was shot neither on Nikon nor on Kenon.
What is written here is nothing more than my personal, subjective vision of this issue. I used to joke about the fact that Nikon and Canon they only do that they copy names and pathos for their trinkets products. But, making reviews of various photographic equipment, working as a photographer and talking with my colleagues, I have accumulated a lot of notes about the main issue of Life, the Universe and Everything Else: Nikon or Canon? In addition, recently I have been tormented by the issue of acquiring the highest quality lens for personal use, which was the starting point in the creation of this article.
In this article, I mean by portrait fixed lenses only lenses with a fixed focal length from 85 to 200 mm, designed to work with full-format cameras and having automatic focus. These lenses were originally designed to work with the Nikon FX central lens (full-format Nikon cameras) and the Canon central lens with an EF mount. and where a half ?? But what about your favorite half dread !!!!!!!
Nikon can conditionally distinguish only 18 lens models that fit my criteria:
| Lens | Exit time | Today's prices |
| Nikon Nikkor Z 85mm 1: 1.8 S | July 2019 | View-> |
| Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor | December 1987 | Outdated |
| Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor | March 1994 | Outdated |
| Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8G AF-S Nikkor | January 2012 | View-> |
| Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4D AF Nikkor | November 1995 | Outdated |
| Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4GN AF-S Nikkor | August 2010 | View-> |
| Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8 AF Micro Nikkor | June 1990 | Outdated |
| Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8D AF Micro Nikkor | October 1993 | Outdated |
| Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR | February 2006 | View-> |
| Nikon 105mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor | September 1993 | Outdated |
| Nikon 105mm 1: 1.4EN AF-S Nikkor ED | July 2016 | View-> |
| Nikon 135mm 1: 2 AF DC-Nikkor | October 1990 | Outdated |
| Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor | November 1995 | Outdated |
| Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKI) | September 1986 | Outdated |
| Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKII) | January 1987 | Outdated |
| Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKIII) | November 1987 | Outdated |
| Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor (MKIV) | December 1994 | Outdated |
| Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor (MKI) | June 2004 | Outdated |
| Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII N ED AF-S Nikkor (MKII) | September 2010 | View-> |
| Nikon 200mm 1: 4D ED AF Micro Nikkor | October 1993 | Outdated |
Also, a brief description of these models can be found in my article on choosing a portrait lens for the Nikon system.
Canon has a little less models - 15 pieces:
| Lens | Exit time | Today's prices |
| Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM | July 1992 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM | September 1989 | Outdated |
| Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L II USM | March 2006 | View-> |
| Canon lens RF 85mm F1.2L USM | May 2019 | View-> |
| Canon lens RF 85mm F1.2L USM DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) | October 2019 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.4 L IS USM | August 2017 | View-> |
| Canon lens RF 85mm F2 MACRO IS STM | July 2020 | View-> |
| Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 | April 1990 | Outdated |
| Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 USM | March 2000 | Outdated |
| Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM | October 2009 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 100mm 1: 2 USM | October 1991 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus | October 1987 | Outdated |
| Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM | April 1996 | View-> |
| Canon MACRO LENS EF 180mm 1: 3.5 L USM | April 1996 | Outdated |
| Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L USM | December 1991 | Outdated |
| Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM | March 1996 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2 L IS USM | April 2008 | View-> |
| Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM | November 1988 | Outdated |
Let it not bother anyone that Nikon has a bit more models. At times, Nikon updated its range of lenses adding only a very minor improvement to the previous version. So, the following groups of lenses have the same optical design and in all other respects do not have cardinal differences:
- Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor и Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor
- Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8 AF Micro Nikkor и Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8D AF Micro Nikkor
- Nikon 135mm 1: 2 AF DC-Nikkor и Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor
- Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor MKI and MKII, MKIII, 'D' MKIV
- Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor MKI и Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII NED AF-S Nikkor MKII
Canon is also updating its lineup and the following lens groups have the same optical design:
- Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM и Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L ii USM
- Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L USM и Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L ii USM
As a result, Nikon has 11 different models, and Canon has 10. Nikon and Canon go head to head in terms of the variety of lenses.
In the sign the meaning 'Outdated'means this lens cannot be purchased new. Clever guys who write about used in the comments. options for photographic equipment do not take into account that a guarantee and warranty service is important for a professional.
About macro lenses
If you try to use a macro lens for portrait photography, in real life for this task only Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR or Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM is taken. Both lenses are by and large very good and here the forces of the systems are approximately equal. All other macro lenses indicated in the tables, due to their specific features and lack of stabilizer, are not of particular interest for portraiture. Anyway, choosing a good portrait lens on a number of macro lenses, I would advise you to pay your last attention, and here's why:
- Macro lenses have less aperturethan comparable focal length 'classic' lenses.
- Macro lenses are 'sharpened' primarily for shooting small objects, work in the classic range of focusing distances is rather a secondary function. Ultimately, macro lenses have very slow focus ring travel at the distances at which people are captured. The small pitch of the focusing ring is damn awkward when focusing manually and causes more focusing errors when focusing automatically.
My little summary on macro lenses: Nikon and Canon each have one serious player, who can act both as a macro lens and as a portrait lens. We can say that here Nikon and Canon hold parity. The functioning and capabilities of other macro lenses should be of interest only to photographers who purposefully shoot macro.
About 85mm and Nikon system issues
In the amateur segment, I would call Nikon 85mm 85: 1G AF-S Nikkor and Canon LENS EF 1.8mm 85: 1 USM the direct competitors of the 1.8-current.
It should be noted that in the fall of 2006 a camera was released Nikon D40, it has been cut for compatibility with 'AF' type lenses and required the use of 'AF S'. In the label, such lenses are highlighted in green.. But the trouble is, from the list of compatible lenses there was only the large and heavy Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor, which owners of the unpretentious could hardly afford Nikon D40, and 'makrushnik' - Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR. The classic portrait lens, which could be used on amateur cameras, had to wait another 3 years (an eternity in the era of new technologies). With this camera, the serious trouble with the compatibility of Nikon lenses with amateur cameras began. You can imagine that you go, buy your own cute 'Nikkor', put it on your amateur camera, and he does not want to focus on it! And a whole horde of such cameras was released: D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D3200, D3300, D5000, D5100, D5200, D5300, D5400WTF?, D5500... And I'm already silent about 'Nikon 1' mirrorless cameras, which are not compatible with lenses like 'AF'.
What do I personally care about amateur cameras? We are talking about serious matters - portrait lenses! But the point here is this - in due time Nikon D40 I had a spare camera for the D200 / D90, and it's damn inconvenient to have defective system, which does not fully support their own native lenses. FROM Nikon D40 I could not fully use my favorite and inexpensive Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor. Moreover, such lenses cannot just be given to a friend / acquaintance who has an amateur camera. There are a great many such examples. I guess it was with this lens that I had a suspicion that Nikon had blundered somewhere.
If we take the Canon system, then there is full compatibility (except for very rare cases) of lenses with Canon EF mount and cameras with Canon EF / EF-S mount. Even if we take the oldest lens from the list presented by me - Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, 1987, then it will work on any Canon CZK.
At the same time, the Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM has been available since July 1992, and the Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8G AF-S Nikkor since January 2012. Canon's built-in noiseless focus motor introduced 20 (twenty!) years earlierthan Nikon. However, it is worth noting that Nikon has been making 85s since December 1987 (Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor). As a result, Nikon had an affordable 5 / 85 for 1.8 years, while Canon did not. But, in general, in the budget 85-current segment, Canon beats one of its successful Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM against three Nikon 85 / 1.8.
As for the TOP 85-current, here the Canon system wins. The Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM was released back in September 1989, six years before the legendary Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4D AF Nikkor. At the same time, the Canon equivalent has a larger geometric hole and a USM motor. The appearance of the motorized Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4GN AF-S Nikkor had to wait another 5 years (a total of 11 years since the release of the TOP 85tki from Canon). The difference between F / 1.2 and F / 1.4 is one-third of the stop, and at least stand still, Nikon does not have such F numbers for portrait shooting in full frame!
Canon was also the first to release the 85 / 1.4 lens with stabilizer - Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.4 L IS USM
Summary of TOP 85. In the TOP segment, the 85-current Canon system wins.
Even if we discard the lack of full compatibility of Nikon lenses with the younger line of SLR cameras, then the lack of a built-in focusing motor in the lens imposes some more limitations. The focus motor really sounds very loud during focusing, there is no direct access to the focus ring (Nikon M / A or Canon FTM modes), there is a more complicated method for switching between manual and automatic focus mode, etc.!
To be precise, all Nikon lenses with a built-in focus motor use SWM motors, which are quite quiet. Canon lenses are all equipped with a built-in focusing motor, usually quiet USM or STM motors, but there are also old lenses with the usual noisy micro-motor. These lenses include only Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 and Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, marked in yellow (such lenses do not have the prefix 'USM' or 'Ultrasonic' or 'STM' in their name).
If you shoot certain stories in a row on the rumbling Nikon mastodons, such as Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor MKIV, and then shoot the same thing on the quiet Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM, then the superiority in working with Canon optics will be on the face. I’ve been feeling very strongly lately defective Nikon lenses without a focus motorWhen working with them, sometimes one gets the feeling that one has a prehistoric technique in one's hands. This article is not paid for, believe me, I just had / have the opportunity to touch various 'pieces of glass' in real conditions. The absence of a focusing motor theoretically only reduces the cost of making a lens and simplifies its repair, but if there is nothing to cover, you can always write about an abstract 'drawing' of lenses of this or that system :).
100mm / 105mm
Nikon and Canon each have several 'portrait hundredths' - Canon LENS EF 100mm 1: 2 USM (October 1991), Nikon 105mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor (September 1993) + Nikon AF-S Nikkor 105mm 1: 1.4E ED N (2016). The lens from Canon is very attractive for its low price. Nikon's first lens to feature 'Defocus Control' i.e. 'Out of focus control'. The second lens from Nikon has a huge f / 1.4 aperture. Due to the unique technology of 'DC' and F/1.4@105mm, it is impossible to compare lenses directly, but if we weigh the pros and cons, I would stick with Nikon's lenses. Nikon DC is a topic for a separate Olympiad, it has certain difficulties in setting up and using it. All in all, the Nikon system theoretically shows more advantages here.
135mm
Probably one of the main questions is the choice of the 135th. This is one of the most sought after open air portrait lenses. Nikon has the unconquered Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor (November 1995), Canon has the Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM (April 1996). If you recall the story that Nikon has been making its 135/2 since 1990 (the first Non-D version), and Canon had to wait another six years before the 135 F / 2.0 came out. Again, due to the unique 'DC' technology, lenses cannot be compared directly. But I really want to, because I'm looking for the best tailor! As a result, I am much more attracted to the Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM, because it is 'performance without unnecessary problems'.
Based on my needs, I personally have two serious complaints about Nikon - the lack of a model update Nikon D700 and updates to the Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor portrait lens. 'DC' is good, but the lens itself is outdated.
Also, Canon has an unusual 135mm - Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus with a 'soft focus' system (this is not at all like Nikon DC). As a result, if you look at both systems, Canon has one very productive Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM and one creative Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, while Nikon has only one super-creative Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor. It is for the sake of Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM that many photographers are willing to choose Canon instead of Nikon. Canon's system in the choice of 135 is preferable.
180mm
The choice between Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor MKIV and Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM is also obvious to me. I suffered a lot with slow focusing, an absolutely stupid focus mode switch and rather big noise of my own Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor. The Kenon lens is much more tech than the Nikon. Among the lenses of the class 180-200 / 2.8, Canon clearly leads.
200mm
As for super-class 200 / 2.0 lenses, here too Canon can boast of the existence of the unique Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM. Nikon did not have a 200 / 1.8 class lens. But Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM is outdated and the main competition now has to go between Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII N ED AF-S Nikkor and Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2 L IS USM. These are very specific lenses, it is difficult to say which one is better. But if we consider system selection issue, I would be flattered that in 1988 Canon created its 200 / 1.8, and Nikon slowed down for another 16 years!
Experienced photographer chooses not Nikon or Canon, but a system for comfortable operation... And the earlier this or that new technology was introduced, the more feedback it will receive and the better the new updated or modified model will work. Therefore, I am quite seriously attached to the release date of this or that lens.
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Portrait photography is one of the most popular in the world. Having a good portrait photographer is vital. I still think that it doesn't matter what you shoot. Without the work of a photographer, all these expensive lenses are nothing more than pieces of glass and metal, soulless, gray, unable to create anything on their own. And if someone decided to acquire a high-aperture fixture for porter shooting, then in general the Canon system can offer more 'functional' options than Nikon.
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Will there really be a second part after such a reaction?
she just has to be
Arkady don’t engage in pop music, they will begin to dump a lot, and Internet theoreticians will come to replace! Compare how many smart koments there were before and how much trash was pouring now!
Previously, there were much fewer people, and the site was found mainly by thinking people, but now the popularity has been increased by the number of non-thinking
Don't you think that with your comment you can involuntarily offend a number of users, especially those who have recently visited this site?
Mr. Lynx does not stand on ceremony with anyone :)
There is nothing to be proud of ...
Offended or not, to take it personally or not is a personal choice of everyone.
On the whole, she is joyfully going through a quite typical development path - with the growing popularity of the resource, the general level of suitability in the comments falls.
In one thread on Nikon's forum, a girl asked how the numbers on the lens correlate with the distance to the subject, received several answers, among them “no way”, “these are different things,” someone tried to explain. But one comment was “do not pay attention to her,” so this lady began to be indignant, they say, what tactlessness and not politeness, and in general she regrets that she has come to this forum. And the respondent explained that it is necessary not to pay attention not to the girl, but to the scale of focal lengths “oh at the same woman”.
In short, everyone is offended to the extent of his understanding.
what terrible places you roam, however!
No, I don’t think so! Because if a beginner asks a question, this is very good, and when he starts to reason while reading and NOT USING Himself, it is BAD! I do not offend anyone !!!!
I agree. Then there is an opinion in the client environment (especially in the public sector) that “photographers have been divorced now and the pictures are useless”.
And after all they are in many respects right.
An acquaintance calls yesterday - friends want to buy a boo camera, but what do you advise - kenon, or nikon? It doesn't matter, I say, if your friends themselves don't understand. And which is better, kenon 1000D or 30D? Yes, it doesn't matter, I say, but I would take a 30D for myself. And your friends, I say, let them understand - at 18-55 they will not see the difference on their laptop that from a device for $ 1000, that for $ 100 bu. I myself am not the fact that I will see. And people need a difference, they spend more time comparing characteristics and giving preference than actually shooting. And anyway, Zeiss is better than kenon / nikon, at least work hard.
* crash
Friendliness is the main feature of the photographer)))
Politeness is the thief's best weapon.)))
I was surprised by the absence of the Canon "fifty dollars" - they feel quite portrait on the crop. :-)
In addition, it is very strange to see lenses with focal lengths of 135 and (horror!) 200mm in the list. These focal ones for a portrait - well, they won't crawl sideways, even in a full frame - there will be only pancakes! Instead of faces.
Macro focal lenses are suitable, but their sharpness is excessive, and the need to mute it is not mentioned.
On the whole - a controversial article.
Before they tell you a lot of interesting things about you and your preferences, I hasten to laconicly notice that you are mistaken.
135mm and above is the optimal FR for a portrait lens.
Redneck napalm, yes. :-)
depending on what format ...
Poltina is not purely portrait glass.
simply the most common and cheapest fix washing background, which beginners buy with a second lens, since it’s a pity for 85mm or more money
You understand a little in a portrait means! Shorter than 85mm, do not respect the model!
you understand even less in the portrait, apparently. )))
Just about the optimal FR for a portrait, do not start a "fight"))) Here everything is as always IMHO.
Nobody starts a fight, just.
FR is neither taste nor color, everything is more or less standard here.
Due to certain features of a person’s visual perception, it is advisable to shoot portraits from about five meters away. Accordingly, lenses are needed from 135mm, for the least distortion of proportions.
It is clear that this is more suitable for studio and production portraiture. In dynamic conditions, you need something shorter (I personally manage fifty dollars).
studio rental where you can 135 take a full-length portrait will probably cost the owner
I propose to end the dispute on this article!
Well, you, we only get a taste. Here on YouTube, one Kazakh uncle, Mike Toptygin, generally predicts the sunset of the era of DSLRs.
maybe a joke, maybe not, but I think if for a rich and spoiled client you can shoot an obscura on a camera, you can normally raise money ... ..
Well, they take off degerotypes, as far as I know in Moscow, there is even a studio that shoots only on plates and nothing more.
Arkady, who is to blame for you that you took D40 instead of D50 at one time, you had to think about a screwdriver. And serious portraits on D40, 60, 3 × 00, 5 × 00 are not taken, for portraits they take D200, D7000 and get a powerful apparatus without restrictions on the use of screwdriver optics.
Yes, and your opinion was surprising that the Kenonovskiy 85 /1.8 is better than the similar Nikonovskiy. ChKFR Warrior Kask wrote that at kenon this glass is ha * but. Here's how to believe you. Yes, and 200 from Nikon's fairy tale. You sold out to Arkady Kenon, probably already bombing the wedding on the new 5DSr .. :))
85ka Nikon has a cut at the edges, but more chromatite 1-1
1. take off.
2. what horror. for a number of points, autofocus canon 85s are really better.
WELL AND FINALLY - 300-het for the glory of friendship!
this article would probably not have happened if the nikon had made a new 135ku, the nikon was to blame for everything
This article would not have been if the nikon made the working distance a couple of millimeters shorter.
this is a major strategic miss
Exactly the whole thing is in these millimeters
Yes, everything is simple, a virus is built into the Nikon system, as soon as a person presses a button ... the whole virus of intolerance to all other systems, rudeness, is introduced. A person settles in social networks and swears at all other systems. While the owners of these systems are taking pictures))). Seriously though, I chose the kenon because I can screw the fffse on it! Even nikkory MF is in my collection, and the canon FD is completely altered. Now I am thinking about the UPC, there are M39 lenses, I would like not only macro. Yes, I have the opportunity to use the D90, what a photofusion, the menu was invented for the quirks of the psyche, not otherwise). And, by the way, Arkady did not mention the most unpleasant thing about Nikon - each next carcass is completely different from the previous one! It is impossible to guess where which buttons are and what they are responsible for, only with instructions! Ken does not have such problems that 1100, 550, 50D are still there, all the same, plus new items
Your comment is a wonderful confirmation of your own words exactly the opposite, regarding the system. Oh, these women, continuous contradictions.
I had in mind the location of the buttons on the carcass and the convenience of the menu, each time the Nikon has a different layout, and the instructions have an intuitive menu! Yeah, 0 was added and the whole interface has changed. By the way, Nikonists are the most worried, kenonists and pentaxists continue to photograph))). We don’t have to yap, we already know everything about our systems)))
you are not right
bullshit
Firstly, I noticed that the "canonists" are somehow very painfully worried about the owners of Nikon, that they are worried about their equipment. When do they have time to photograph? So everyone who worries so much is precisely “… nists”, regardless of the first syllables of this word. Secondly, getting tangled up in three pines, that is, in five buttons, smells of dementia. I changed the camera twice: D90-D7000-D610. Understanding and automatism come after the very first wedding shoot. Moreover, you take the D90 in your hands - you start to control the D90, etc. I tried Canon - another control, no better and no worse - just different. For a couple of filming, you can get used to it and not even get confused later. I can ride a motorcycle, a tractor, any car and some types of military equipment. Never hit the gas instead of the brake yet. Guessing without instructions. Probably, it is better for Svetlana not to try other systems, otherwise we will lose her with a crippled psyche.
My God, did you write ... Virus ... Conspiracy theory or personal life experience?
this is some kind of kapets, people are ready to gnaw at each other's throats proving which system is better ... ..as for me, you need to be able to shoot, not a hait system, I understand that most of them just have their hands in the wrong place, when I chose a DSLR, then first of all it was convenience for me, since I did not want to carry an "inconvenient" DSLR with me, the choice fell on Nikon, but I do not prove to anyone that the Canon is worse, the main thing is the ability to shoot, but at the expense of the correct picture, by the way already wrote here, this is a delicate matter and everyone has their own view of the picture.
Travel Pishov. and two dogs bark one on one. mirrors are the first day. And so two monsters were not born so we can understand the format of system cameras. from and start to bark.
Who is more convenient, and for what purpose, and takes what meets his requirements. And to chase fashion and hate opponents to death threats - Detzzkiy kindergarten nursery group. I use kenon, but I'll have to, I'll pick up nikon (sony, fuji is not the essence) and go to shoot them. The result is important to me, and the fact that someone has crooked hands or eyes lit up, who cares….
It may of course be a coincidence, but after the publication of this article on our secondary Nizhny Novgorod market (I can’t vouch for the rest), the number of people changing their religion from Nikon to Canon (from their own words) has sharply increased. They merge cameras up to the D810 with scanty mileage, and excellent optics, and entire sets. Arkady, what do you think: maybe also give in to herd instinct? Or will you soon have a similar article not in favor of Canon and the people will run back? :)))
I myself live in Nizhny Novgorod and read the blog Arkady for a year and a half for sure)
I follow the used market on Avito mainly, so I notice only one product of Boots, it’s hard to find Nikon ones, but you can mainly professional lenses and full-frame carcasses :)
Anyway, it’s better to use what you’re used to and what you like best. If it’s important for you not to get pleasure, let’s say so, but to receive profit (money and reward), then take what will bring you success (although judging by the article, success is Boot. This is just his opinion, you and I have your own ) People still shoot on Zeniths, Minolts and other old Pentax-shmentaks, such a one.
No, they come across Avito and Fotogorky ... Only yesterday a girl started to drain D810 + optics for more than 4 hundred thousand rubles, like she is switching to Canon. What, is it really so important? After all, she already has an almost top-end camera and glass ... I don't know, I'm all in doubt myself, this migration confuses me. In addition, Nikon has recently become sad with his "novelties". It seems that you understand with your mind that all this pursuit of technology has little to do with photography itself ... but still ...
That just to give her pleasure) I don’t like the design of Spogovsky cameras, nor their grip and convenience :)
And to each his own.
it seems to me that the engineers of kenon are trying to make the picture “whatever they like”, and nikon is “as truthful as possible”
what do you want, bitter truth or sweet lie?
I want both this and that, and in the top version :)
Already 321 comments have been spoken. Not everything is so bad for both Nikon and Canon !!!
I took up photography by accident. A friend dropped a fifty-kopeck piece, the front glass flew out. I gave it to me for repair (just a radio amateur). Well, I disassembled, assembled, soldered the AF, went for a walk and tested. Canon 1100, 50 1.8, what else is needed .. She could not pick it up for several days, and a Helios 44-2 turned up under the arm in a pretty dead state, but manual control ... You have to see how the grandfathers took pictures. Probably at that moment I lost control. But the camera was taken away and I was a little lost in myself and the situation around. The world seemed to have collapsed. But the next day, two people entered the house, they saw the pictures, and gave a camera. I had 3 weeks ... It was Nikon 5100 s, attention, 28-300 - absolutely soapy, sometimes green glass, intolerant of backlighting. But I already started saving money for the camera, I spent the available 3 thousand on Non-Ai 50mm 1.4, and, on business, I left with the camera in Kazan. I stayed on a crop with a tame fifty dollars in a strange city. I didn't even look at the pictures on the screen, only a week later I got to my computer and found that the pictures were slightly greenish (BB's bobble, as it seems to me now). All 3 weeks I just shot, for myself, for fifty dollars. About 7 thousand free money has accumulated. I looked at the canons for a long time, because everyone who is familiar with the cameras is on the canon, which means you can take glasses and so on, there was no talk about ergonomics, the main thing is to shoot and improve. As a result, the very next day I bought myself a D200, with a huge mileage of 270k, but for my money everything was quite tolerable, the rubber bands were re-glued, the battery holds 300 photos, and the card is only 59. As a result, I got a camera with manual mode for 10 thousand and a manual fix, 10 megapixels, which do not allow normal scribbling. It just leads to discipline. Build shots right away, shoot thoughtfully, control the camera. Now I shoot for my own pleasure, but I got a Sony Nex 3, the most plush one, bought an adapter for M42, and there is a camera for semi-street photography and for basic photography. I shoot in Rav and have no problems, on Jupiter 37a - the photos come out almost identical. All disputes are useless. although the new friends of the Nikonists claimed that sleepyheads are disgusting and disgusting
I adhere to "truthfulness" in capturing, transmitting and reproducing information, whatever it may be, audio, photo or video.
I want to see and hear in the recording exactly what was in reality.
Example -
Audio equipment will be better than one that introduces a minimum of distortion in its path.
Also for me in the photo.
turn on a high-quality device without an equalizer and a balalaika with low and high lows - people will definitely choose the latter, because it is perceived as “more pleasant”. Well, the truth is - it is for connoisseurs))
Therefore, I sit on Nikon, everything suits me, including Soviet lenses on it. To say that the canon is worse - I will not say, they are just slightly different, everyone chooses with his soul. I want to see the moment as I saw it with my own eyes, without any beauty. So to speak, high-end in the world of photography, well, and I'm a photo-philist, probably, considering that I'm also a complete audiophile)))
All good, no sracha, we are all different)
Regarding the veracity, I remembered one circumstance regarding the film, many say that film, film, magic, naturalness, lightness, graininess, oh and oh. You forget, however, that digitality in the image appeared not so long ago, and before that, the film reigned supreme. And most importantly, it was not photography at all that set the tone for producers, which, by the way, were not so many. Two monsters Kodak and Fuji, well, Agfa there, and oh yes, the Shostka pseudo-color Svema almost forgot. So, Kodak and Fuji plowed for wear for cinema, thousands of kilometers were needed not only by Hollywood, but also the rest of humanity, including Bollywood. Well, yes, and that film was not negative at all, but positive. And different cultures, completely differently understood the naturalness of the image. That is, the east, Japan and others define skinton in no way like Europe and America. For the Japanese, for example, white skin, a sign of aristocracy, noble origin, and the European and American type is a golden tan. Therefore, Fuji always turned green and cooled skin color, and Kodak yellow, warming everything around. By the way, Kodak was in a better position, since the yellow color, more than other colors, retains shades in lightness. In general, the whole battle went beyond the dynamic range of the film, and film for photography is only a by-product of the film industry. Almost all the photographers of those years chased a certain kind of slide film Kodakhrom. Well, everyone else used what was at hand. But the whole joke is what a miracle of technology you don’t take off, Kenon, Nikon, Minolta, Lake, Pentax, etc. your skinton and truthfulness will be in the framework of either Fuji or Kodak, or God forbid Svema and Tasma.
And by this, in our digital time, when you can do whatever your heart desires with color, searching for skinton matrices is the lot of those who have not yet mastered Photoshop.
The breeder read. He smiled a secret knowledgeable smile and said nothing.))
Well, yes, the only thing left to the son-breeders is to smile meaningfully with a "supposedly unlit look"))
Lynx, it's five.
Where would be the breeders without the Olympus Pen and MFT?
the massacre started ...
Won. 4/3
Olympus defeated everyone. four-thirds and its youngest version no doubt captured the market. And arranged a mirrorless revolution.
Nikon and Canon will go down in history if they do not develop mirrorless systems. Although here, Nikon circumvented the canon with his nikon1 system.
Amen!
Arkady! Thanks for the article. So only a person with great experience can collect information