24.10.2019/85/1.2 a full-frame Canon Lens RF XNUMXmm fXNUMXL USM DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) lens was introduced.
Basic properties
- Professional L-Series Lens for Canon EOS Full-Frame Mirrorless Camera with RF Mount
- Relative Hole: 1: 1.2-1: 16
- Focal Length: 85mm
- MDF: 0.85 m
- Maximum magnification ratio 1: 8.33
- Optical design: 13 elements in 9 groups, including 1 aspherical element and 1 low dispersion element
- Optical elements used Blue Spectrum Refractive (BR)
- Some elements have enlightenment. DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) Coating for smooth / soft bokeh, at f / 1.2 aperture, illumination requires 1.3 steps more exposure than the version without DS
- Some elements have enlightenment. ASC (Air Sphere Coating)
- Number of aperture blades: 9 pieces
- FTM USM ring focusing
- Filter Diameter: 82 mm
- Additional control ring that is programmable
- Protected enclosure
- Weight: 1195
- Price: around $ 3.000; current prices for the new Canon RF lenses are available see here
Appearance of Canon Lens RF 85mm f1.2L USM DS
An accurate and complete list of all Canon RF lenses:
Fixes:
- Canon Lens RF 5.2 mm F2.8 L DUAL FISHEYE [October 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 16 mm F2.8 STM [September 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 24 mm F1.8 MACRO IS STM [July 2022]
- Canon Lens RF 24 mm F1.4 L VCM [October 2024]
- Canon Lens RF 28 mm F2.8 STM [May 2023]
- Canon Lens RF 35 mm F1.8 MACRO IS STM [September 2018]
- Canon Lens RF 35 mm F1.4 L VCM [June 2024]
- Canon Lens RF 50 mm F1.8 STM [November 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 50 mm F1.4 L VCM [October 2024]
- Canon Lens RF 50 mm F1.2 L USM [September 2018]
- Canon Lens RF 85 mm F1.2 L USM [May 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 85 mm F1.2 L USM DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) [October 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 85 mm F2 MACRO IS STM [July 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 100 mm F2.8 L MACRO IS USM SA CONTROL [April 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 135 mm F1.8 L IS USM [November 2022]
- Canon Lens RF 400 mm F2.8 L IS USM [April 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 600 mm F11 IS STM [July 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 600 mm F4 L IS USM [April 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 800 mm F11 IS STM [July 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 800 mm F5.6 L IS USM [February 2022]
- Canon Lens RF 1200 mm F8 L IS USM [February 2022]
Zuma:
- Canon Lens RF 10-20mm F4 L IS STM [October 2023]
- Canon Lens RF 14-35mm F4 L IS USM [June 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 15-30mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM [July 2022]
- Canon Lens RF 15-35mm F2.8 L IS USM [August 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 16-28mm F2.8 IS USM [January 2025]
- Canon Lens RF 24-50mm F4.5-6.3 IS STM [February 2023]
- Canon Lens RF 24-70mm F2.8 L IS USM [August 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 24-105mm F2.8 L IS USM Z [October 2023]
- Canon Lens RF 24-105mm F4 L IS USM [September 2018]
- Canon Lens RF 24-105mm F4-7.1 IS STM [February 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 24-240mm F4-6.3 IS USM [July 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 28-70mm F2 L USM [September 2018]
- Canon Lens RF 28-70mm F2.8 IS STM [September 2024]
- Canon Lens RF 70-200mm F4 L IS USM [November 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 70-200mm F2.8 L IS USM [October 2019]
- Canon Lens RF 70-200mm F2.8 L IS USM Z [black/white, October 2024]
- Canon Lens RF 100-300mm F2.8 L IS USM [April 2023]
- Canon Lens RF 100-400mm F5.6-8 IS USM [September 2021]
- Canon Lens RF 100-500mm F4.5-7.1 L IS USM [July 2020]
- Canon Lens RF 200-800mm F6.3-9 IS USM [November 2023]
XNUMXrd Party Autofocus Full Frame Canon RF Mount Lenses
- Samyang: 14/2.8, 85/1.4
- yongnuo: 35 / 2R, 35/2CR, 85 / 1.8R
- TTArtisan: 32/2.8
- felttrox: 85/1.8
- Meike: 85/1.8, 85/1.4
List of all mirrorless cameras with Canon RF mount
- Canon EOS [September 2018, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS Ra [November 2019, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOSRP [February 2019, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS-R1 [July 2024, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS-R3 [April 2021, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS-R5 [July 2020, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS R5C [January 2022, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS R5 Mark II [July 2024, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS-R6 [July 2020, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS R6 MARK II [November 2022, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
- Canon EOS-R8 [February 2023, BHphotovideo | ADORAMA]
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Material prepared Arkady Shapoval.
Dear photo equipment store, hello!
I got acquainted with your price list.
Please advise where you can sell a kidney more expensive.
I'm afraid the kidney won't be enough ...
Arkady, a question for you: isn't this DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) Coating lens a kind of functional analogue of the “Softfocus” system of the Canon EF 135 / 2,8 Softfocus lens?
No, it's not. Different principles of work. Yes, and DS is primarily designed only for F / 1.2.
Soft Focus adds spherical aberration when enabled, making it stronger. A very mediocre effect, I haven't really found where to use it. All contrasting areas are covered with such a fog. Although without this effect, the lens itself is nothing like its price and age - a compact and fast 135 / 2.8, quite sharp, inexpensive alternative to the 135 / 2.0 monster.
85 / 1.2 DS works in a special way only in those areas of the image that are out of focus, making the bokeh even more creamy and pleasant, in sharp areas everything is fine, if not unmatched.
Quality corresponds to the price In the end, there is 85 / 1.8, which is still good, and 85 / 1.4IS, and the original 85 / 1.2L II. Price gradation, everything is still produced and is fully compatible.
Thank you!
For some reason, it seems to me that DS is a “rough” transparent polycrystalline coating, “smoothing” (scattering light more evenly than the original asphere with concentric grooved circles) the aspheric surface to neutralize the effect of onion rings. If there is more information - share.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8nitSwe3c - Well, judging by the video, they apply the coating on two surfaces.
And judging by the scheme 85 / 1.2 without DS (if they have one) https://media.the-digital-picture.com/Images/Other/Canon-RF-85mm-F1.2-L-USM-Lens/Design.png these are not aspherical lenses.
If I understand correctly, this is the first meniscus after the first gluing and the second element in the gluing before this tricky BR element that reduces the chromaticity.
Then how does the too work? Just some kind of gradient?
I don’t know ... Asferika gives rings in bokeh, DO elements especially. But this is not the case here. It seems to be a matter of spherical aberration. A bad example of bokeh is when, as a result of SA, the scattering circle has a brighter border than the center - the most creepy example is bagels in mirror lenses. Traditional canons and Zeiss give an even circle of scattering, until recently it was difficult to achieve this, while maintaining other optical characteristics. Well, there may also be characteristic "lemons" or "cat's eyes" when this circle is flattened.
And now Canon has gone further and is trying to achieve that the scattering circle becomes a "donut in reverse" - bright in the center and disappearing from the outside. That is, it is somehow incomplete (or re - I don’t remember) corrected spherical aberration, but how exactly the spraying allows to solve this problem, and only for the blur zone I still don’t understand.
Weight: 1195 g. - fixed with the weight of a sickly zoom ...
Of course, such optics are expensive, but what is cheap now? One can only welcome the development of the line of NEW OPTICS TO A NEW CLASS OF CAMERAS. After all, the old ones, for DSLRs, fit without problems. "Mirrorless" is the real near future, and the present is already. The problem of high cost is a matter of time. Authoritative magazines of the late 90s and early 2000s wrote that digital photography will not soon replace film due to imperfection and enormous cost (4-9 thousand dollars). But only two or four years have passed - and here you go! - DSLRs costing less than a thousand. So it is with the new class of cameras and optics for them. And it's very good that Kenon creates something completely new, and does not modernize the old!
I give an idea: Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Mirrorless"))
Canon has announced the price for this lens - $ 3000! Even if they wrote 2999, it would be calmer in my soul ... So it is for the richest and for the most commercial, or the most financially courageous. Now Kenon needs to release some 58 / 0,9 with autofocus for some $ 20000, so as not to hit his face in the mud in front of Nikon's manual 58 / 0.95 for $ 8000.
In contrast to the 58 / 0.95, created according to the principle: “because we can” - manual and absolutely overwhelming, the 85 / 1.2L is quite suitable for work. Why aren't you confused by 400/4 DO for 7000 USD?
Because it’s 400mm and aperture for such a focal length, there are huge lenses, etc., but there isn’t all this, the margin is just going through the roof. That nikon is also suitable for work, even interesting.
“The markup is off the charts here” about a high-quality, modern new high-aperture autofocus lens priced at $ 3000 - that's ridiculous.
You don't know about Leica lenses at all? I will help you with advice - look for a price, for example, on the Leica APO-Summicron-M 50mm f / 2 ASPH. Try to measure how many huge lenses and apertures are "underdone" for $ 8000.
Have you never heard of Zeiss either? Zeiss Otus 85mm f / 1.4 - less aperture and non-autofocus, but for $ 4500.
Well, for the breadth of horizons, I recommend taking an interest in the prices of movie lenses. For example, Cooke Anamorphic.
And tell us later about the “off-scale markup” on the lens, the cost of which roughly corresponds to the average salary of one Japanese in one month. If, in your opinion, $ 3000 for such a lens is expensive, then give examples of cheap lenses of similar quality with similar characteristics without the “off scale markup”.
I had a chance to test Canon's R series in the week, along with a line of lenses. Including this. What can I say ?! The prices for them are certainly not low. But the quality is just great! Glass perfectly removes in conditions in which ordinary glass and carcasses can not even really focus.
Robust, well-crafted technology. The only caveat: the manufacturer strongly does not recommend changing lenses when the camera is turned on. So that the stub, which is in the lens in the form of a lens levitating in the magnetic field, does not slam it on the lens body from the inside. When the krivorukovy user disconnects a lens from the carcass which is not switched off previously.