System selection. Summer 2015

Probably the most difficult question when choosing a modern camera is the choice of system. By system, photographers usually mean one of the brands: Nikon, Leica, Canon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, etc. The system allows you to build up your potential. So, for example, having bought a camera, it can be supplemented with new lenses, external flashes, battery packs, memory cards, remote controls and other buns. The more developed the system, the better. Here I will express my subjective opinions on the choice of a system for a digital narrow format (crop and full frame, please do not write in the comments about any medium format Hassel, etc.) with automatic focus support.

System Selection

System Selection

Probably the most common question I am asked by ordinary people, amateur photographers and even some professionals is 'Nikon or Canon?' I have already jokingly touched on this topic. here and jokingly touched on this topic here... But it turns out that modern digital photography isn't just about Nikon and Canon. For the summer of 2015, a clear hierarchy for choosing a system has formed in my head. There is a hierarchy for two cases - when a camera / system is chosen by an amateur and a system / camera is chosen by a professional.

So if I was lover, and didn’t know which camera with interchangeable lenses I could buy, then I would be guided very, very much in choosing a system simple rule.

What system does your friend / colleague / brother / sister / uncle / aunt / dad / mom / Mamimi Samejima (girl from the poster) / teacher at the photo school / acquaintance, etc. removes, you should buy the same system.

My practice shows that this is a very wise decision, which in the future will greatly help you in your career growth. Photographers, even amateurs, support each other. It is very good when you have compatibility between your photographic equipment and that of your friends. This allows you to quickly exchange not only technology, but also experience, expands your horizons and makes your religion the system is stronger.

By the way, this spring, it just so happened, most of the weddings I shot on the lenses of my colleagues, because at the moment I just do not have a normal portrait :).

In the case of a stalemate situation, for example, when you do not have friends who have a camera, I recommend looking at the system that your favorite photographer takes. If you don’t have a favorite photographer, you can look, for example, at 500px.com, choose your favorite pet and look at what he is doing his masterpieces. If you don’t have a favorite photographer, either, or he will wipe all night long EXIF data from my masterpieces, I suggest using my subjective hierarchy for professional photography.

My subjective hierarchy of systems for digital narrow format (all kinds of mirrors / mirrorless there for crop or full frame) with support for auto focus for the summer of 2015 for bias to professional photography:

Canon # 1

Anyway, Canon is the number one system. A system that is always one step ahead. Canon is the first full-frame camera (among the competitors listed). The first full-length camera available. The first full-frame camera with adequate video recording. First autofocus system for f / 1.2 and f / 1.0 lenses. Large park of optics. Excellent system compatibility. A huge park of cameras for any photo task. Well thought out and logically correct periphery. And most importantly, it just so happened that most professional photographers shoot with Canon. Read the remaining 100500 advantages in the comments to this entry.

Nikon # 2

I have been working with Nikon for a very long time and I know all their jambs with which I constantly have to put up with. Due to the jambs and stiffness in development, Nikon is only second in 2015. But at the same time, if you grasp the essence of Nikon, then there is nothing better than this black and yellow logo! A bayonet with a very ancient history, a huge park of optics, well-thought-out peripherals, the only 'fighter' who can wipe Canon's nose :).

Sony # 3

Sony is a system with big ambitions. Sony has taken the world of photography seriously with Konica Minolta. Honestly, I really like this company. Collaboration with Carl Zeiss, full-format mirrorless cameras, full-format SLTs, the shortest flange distance of all digital cameras, extensive experience in matrix construction, a large fleet of Sony / Minolta lenses, matrix stabilization! And although I recommend it as a third alternative system, personally, if I abandoned Canon, I would simply switch to Sony. The future belongs to ideas and technologies, something that Nikon has long forgotten :(.

I did not include other manufacturers in the TOP for one important reason - the lack of full-size CZK. I believe that the crops are Pentax, Fuji, Olympus (ah, my dear Olik), Panasonic, etc. can not compete in the professional segment with the full frame of the top three.

Yes, and in fact professionals themselves know exactly what they need, what to spend money on and this my TOP for them does not matter. Only those who do not have experience working with them are eyeing systems. So, professionals who accidentally get to Radozhiva do not be offended by my TOP :).

And a small postscript. Personally, by and large, I don’t care what to shoot, you can get used to everything very quickly... I try to track myself and clearly understand that my personal habits and preferences are not yet a sign of something good or bad. Many users of this or that system are very fanatically in love with their system for one simple reason - they did not shoot for something else :). And even if they were filming, it was not enough, without understanding the essence of another system. Therefore, I can say with a great deal of truth that the opinion of many commenting here on Radozhiv, or on others forums / blogs / platforms - wrong :). Remember, important how to take pictures, and not using any photo equipment.

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Comments: 559, on the topic: Choosing a system. Summer 2015

  • Dmitriy

    Let's be honest: every professional will buy the camera he needs and the necessary set of lenses, because this is his bread. No matter how much they cost (if the price doesn’t quite go into space) based on a set of its tasks. An amateur, albeit slowly, after reading a free lesson, will do the same on the worst camera and the worst Nikon optics (because it’s worse at times).
    After I was torn out of my hands (tearing the shoulder strap) in Vietnam with a good zoom D5200, and the staff stole a bag of accessories from my room (they decided to put an enema on themselves, see), I had to choose an amateur system again.
    Like the first time I chose Nikon, but already bought a used D7100 with filters (polar, protective, gradient), AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f / 1.8G fix, bag, battery pack 2 batteries, 10 AA batteries, native battery unit, gray cards, chargers, lenspen, etc.
    For the same price, a distant acquaintance bought a Cannon 700D c kit. Also used. To understand the scale of prices: as much as these kits costs in the D5300 Kit store (new).
    New Cannon 700D carcass costs more than the same new D7100 carcass. And these are cameras of different classes, the D7100 is closer to 70D or 7D. 7D mark II costs 100000 p. (for crop!), its competitor D7200 is 40000 cheaper.
    What about optics? If you want a new lens, then Nikkor fixes for entry-level crop are 2 times cheaper than their cannon counterparts. If you want something abruptly, or zoom, you already have to look at sigma, tamron, etc. (because there is not enough money). But if a tamron keeps prices somewhere 2-3 thousand more expensive in the middle price segment, then the price of sigma lenses for cannon and nikkon can differ by 2 times with the same configuration.
    If you are a cannon owner you have to pay for your sense of your own greatness. Pay 60000 for an extra 3 frames per second, the best video filming, the disadvantages of which are treated on nikon by buying a manual lens for 4000-8000 rubles (all the same, all professionals require you to shoot only with manual focus). do not forget that in some ways nikon is better and has its own "chips". Prices for photographic equipment for all sorts of ali-baba, amazon, ozone, etc. are more expensive than in the nearest store (the ruble rate rules).
    Regarding the same touch screen: if you shoot in winter (8 months a year) or somewhere in the war, in the taiga, with dirty hands, then there is no point in it at all.
    Therefore, it makes no sense for a poor amateur to buy a cannon - you will not be able to use its capabilities 100% (why do you need 10 frames per second?, For children 4-7 are enough), the fleet of cheap lenses is several times smaller. For the money, nikon is perhaps the cheapest system, whatever one may say.

    • Lynx

      Stupidity.
      Not every professional will buy what he needs, purely for financial reasons.
      At the same time, there are a considerable number of lovers who can afford top-end carcasses with a full range of top-end equipment.

      • Jury

        Why stupid things? This is after all about poor lovers, and not about those who take the top Canon with a set of elek. When I took the D700 and three fast fixes, I also noticed that approximately the same kit on the Canon would have come out significantly more expensive.

        • Lynx

          First, because a poor professional is no less frequent than a poor amateur. Second, there is a difference between “meant” and “wrote”.
          Thirdly, a full-frame boo kit from Canon is often cheaper than Nikon's

          • Dmitriy

            The network has the image of a professional photographer as a kind of childless person living in Thailand, riding a moto for $ 100 and having an excellent camera and a set of optics. In fact, if you don’t have a car, a family and you are not a philanthropist, then paying $ 3-4 thousand for a photo camera and optics (for a year) is not a problem, earning $ 500 is average across Russia. Until recently, our photographer girl worked for six months on a trolley bus, spent six months on this money in Tae + the photographer’s earnings, now she is forced to love her homeland)))
            Lovers with top-end carcasses are usually people of pre-retirement age with good earnings (most often stolen) who have nowhere to do with their money. Although, on the other hand, it is more useful for them and for the heart, and the need can be felt, forgiving sins.
            As for the cannon, you can buy a used kit in central Russia, but given the number of thieves (he himself got stuck a couple of times), it makes no sense to buy on the network, and business trips to the west are not so frequent. In our east nikkon, for some reason, both new and used systems are cheaper (about 1,5-2 times).

            • Lynx

              What are some of your extremely strange ideas about photographers. Maybe your Internet is not the one from another globe?

    • Pastor

      But Kenoo has an excellent SLR for video - 70d. And already a good set of STM glasses for good autofocus. In addition, all other things being equal, Canon is easier to buy used - there is more choice. As for 7dm2, now it is 95 against 62 for nikon d7200. The difference in price is due to a number of differences:
      - a more durable body in 7d;
      - much better tracking autofocus at 7d and more crosses;
      - those same 10 frames per second. If you don't need them, then someone needs them like air. For example, novice reporters. Or shooting wild nature, birds. It's not always a pro. And the choice for an amateur to remove a bird in flight is a small 0 or 1 dm3 / m4, or 7 dm2 - nowhere else is there such a speed. The bird can fly up to the feeder for only 2 seconds, and even out of 20 resulting frames, only 1 can come out the way the author would like. Here 7 frames may not be enough.
      In general, 7dm2 is also for those who already have Canon optics and just need to change 50d or 7d to a newer carcass.
      In addition to the canon, I note the presence of a cheap cropped width, which Nikon has not yet acquired. And the cheap sprinkled telephoto camera for Canon (55-250is) is noticeably better and slightly longer than the cheap Nikonovsky (55-200vr).
      Well, the touch screen is very convenient to use, as the addition is quite interesting. Selecting autofocus points or making settings with it is sometimes faster than even using wheels and buttons.

      • Vyacheslav

        Sony A77 (not Mark 2) gives 10 frames per second, and the optics on the Sony heaps, still Minoltovskaya.

        • Pastor

          But the speed of autofocus and its tenacity is not the same, and work at high iso in comparison with 7 dm2 is noticeably weaker. In addition, with most of the optics (both Minoltov and Sony), it ceases to be dust and water tight, and on 7dm2 there are a lot of elecs with dust and moisture protection. Well, the number of accessories and their accessibility to canon is much higher than to Sony. But the autofocus in the video in Sony is very even.

      • Dmitriy

        As Comrade Stalin said, "you can't say more precisely."
        But another, less nimble creature can be easily removed with an entry-level DSLR. With his D7100 (a second-hand set for 30000 thousand), even without the regime, the crop 1,3 removed capercaillie and hazel grouses from the car in flight. It turns out to make frames 15-25 until it flies away (they fly along the road, it is easier to catch, especially for lunch)). Roughly speaking, such a lover narrowly imprisoned on birds for a carcass for 100 thousand will not be a burden to buy another 25000 sigma or 300 mm tamron. The photo will be of acceptable quality during the day. Especially if the bird is centered on the frame, the rest can be cropped (then there will be no distortion).
        From optics, it’s only cheaper than Canon EF 50mm f / 1.8 II, Nikon 50mm f / 1.8 D is suitable for my screwdriver at the same price. Again, on one, on the other, speed is not such an important parameter (even nikon is worse), the rest of the optics are used, what's new on cannon is more expensive, and even less than it (maybe no one sells it better). We do not have commission stores, we take everything from hand on the same avito.

  • Alexey

    IMHO, the choice of system depends on the tasks, budget.
    say, when choosing a camera for traveling and for a family home with an average or small budget, I would choose the crop Olympus twice.
    if you need something for the same purposes but with crop 1.5 I would buy Sonya A5100 or A6000.
    I don’t see the slightest point in buying whistles from Nikon and Kenon for these purposes.
    if you need something for creativity with the subsequent transition to a full frame, with a large budget, it makes sense to watch something like Nikon D7100.
    or immediately find a used D600 / D610 or better there, such as Kenon 6D / M2.
    who has the budget and needs FF, the choice is huge. for any task. but there is only one universal FF camera - the Kenon 5DM3.
    you need max resolution - there are 50MP monsters from Kenon. It is necessary that it is cheaper - there are Sony and Nikons at 36MP.

    • Alexey

      in the budget segment, there is simply no point in buying crop DSLRs today. I think that the new M4 kenon will drive the first nail into the coffin of the budget krop of kenon (and Nikon).
      and you can just tell the budget crop ZK-RIP! )))

  • Yarkiya

    I don’t see the slightest point in buying whistles from Nikon and Kenon for these purposes.
    if you need something for creativity with the subsequent transition to a full frame, with a large budget, it makes sense to watch something like Nikon D7100.

    Who was standing on whom? Take the trouble to speak more clearly.

  • profi

    Only LEICA ... the rest sucks!

    • anonym

      Everything sucks, except for the pavilion camera format 18X24)))

  • Ivan

    I think that for a correct assessment, you can ask to highlight those indicators of each system that were necessary for a particular user of the system, and then create the top one.
    I certainly understand that a published article is the thoughts of a specific person. An author who certainly deserves attention.
    I just want to suggest choosing a series of indicators.
    1 Grip comfort
    2 carcass weight
    3 BB
    4 color range
    5 Peripheral availability
    6 shooting speed
    7 ...

    Having these indicators, the choice of system will be more understandable and reasonable.
    Everyone will be able to evaluate for themselves.

    Example.
    I started with Nikon d40.
    I chose the next carcass from Nikon. She became the D7000.
    Then he saved up a park of lenses based on his tasks. (I photograph for myself, landscape, flowers. Portraits, too. I have to shoot at events too)
    Now I have the d700 and d7000.
    Lenses fixes Nikon mf55 f1,2; AF50 f1,8; 85 f 1,8 g; 35 f1,8G
    Zoom lenses Nikon AF35-70f2,8; AF70-300f4,5-5,6D;
    Sigma crop lens 10-20mm.
    I come to the conclusion that you need to buy a system for aerial photography.
    Purely for myself, I understand that I will not take Nikon into the air.
    Kenon both held and shot a couple of times. Not mine.
    Ergonomics are not mine. The picture is not mine. I shot 5d mark2.
    I take Nikon, he merges with mine.
    Ergonomics is not an unimportant thing.
    About skin tones. I will say this.
    You shoot at the same time in RAV and in a jeep.
    On a jeep I have on both carcasses the Picture Control mode from Nikon D3 stands for this case.
    Worth and Black-white handler.
    He kept Nikon d200 in the park. This is a miracle! You take it in your hands. Oh yeah! For me, the joint is the only battery in it. He is gluttonous. But I’m ready to put up with it for its ergonomics.
    It all depends on what you take the camera for.
    For work, I can tolerate and kenon.
    But for my pleasure I need ergonomics. Someone will say this matter of habit. maybe so.
    Regarding the need for optics f1.0 or f 1.2 this is debatable.
    Now a lot of advantages can give the use of the TTL radio synchronizer system in conjunction with flashes.
    Yes expensive. But I came to the conclusion that we need to go further to this. You can’t say why I need a flash with aperture optics, I prefer natural light. It's like saying that I draw only on gray canvas, I don’t draw on white. Yes, it can not be used flash. There is ISO.
    It's my opinion. I understand that there are other opinions.

  • Oleg

    All judgments about choice are personal preferences of users.
    Often the first camera is chosen by people who do not understand the features and have no personal experience. And the first camera is like a randomized + visual appeal + brand preference + “a friend has the same and he praises her”. Then, overgrown with glass and other gimmicks, photographers rarely change religion.
    There is such a thing as statistics. And it shows how many people prefer this or that system. And the leader in volumes is known - Canon. If for mass photographer Nikon / Sony / Pentax, etc. better, it should be reflected in sales. And this is not the case, i.e. the conclusion is obvious. And this is due to a lot of factors: price + ergonomics + reliability + availability of service + quality of photos + a lot of things.
    For experienced users, the maxim "I'm ready to put up with:" battery drain / weight / size / rarity of glasses / inconvenient control / high noise / price, but on the other hand: super colors / wide DD / bold pixel / 200 AF points / convenient control / glasses like dirt / comfortable grip / 100% viewfinder / two memory slots / dust and moisture ”, in an attempt to justify your choice of system.

    • Ivan

      The leader in volumes is not a leader in quality.
      Sales volume is not even an indicator of market coverage.
      The volume of profit is also a second matter.
      I agree Kenon made a lot of the right marketing moves.
      But this does not negate the advantages of other manufacturers.
      Ultimately, a person chooses an instrument for self-realization.
      Accordingly, some tools serve for a long time ...

  • Someone S.

    And in order not to break spears and not build castles on the sand, you just need to have carcasses and lenses of both leaders ... both FF and crop ... then the desire to troll the “opponents” in curvature will gradually disappear)))) They lie in my trunk and are friends with each other Canon, Nikon and even Sonya complement each other perfectly. Do not quarrel. This is the acceptable level of photographer's tolerance))))

    • Oleg

      You have a big wardrobe trunk. The trunk of the car under the coffer converted? :)

  • Rustam Zagromov

    You can also notice that Nikon czk are enemies of rare lenses with M42 thread, which an experimental photo artist may need. Canon-friendly, and mirrorless cameras seem to be created for all sorts of rare, vintage and exotic (such as cinema projectors) optics. So I see, my friends.
    I myself am still the owner of the Nikon D3400 and do not complain.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Photographers have one thousandth of a percent and they don’t care what to shoot at all.

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