This review presents a JUPITER-9 2/85 lens manufactured by LZOS (Lytkarinsky Optical Glass Plant, Lytkarino) with M42 mounting thread and serial number 8510041, most likely manufactured in 1985.
Below shown list of major versions of JUPITER / JUPITER-9:
- JUPITER-9 2/85 AUTOMATIC. In the case for the Kiev-10/15 cameras, the Arsenal plant (Kiev), the Kiev-Avtomat mount
- JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm. In a white case, Krasnogorsk, mount Contact-Kiev
- JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P. In the white building, Arsenal building (Kiev), Contact-Kiev bayonet mount
- Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8,5cm P... In a white case, KMZ, M39 for Zenit cameras
- JUPITER-9 2/85. In a white case, Lytkarinsky, M39 for Zenit cameras
- In the black case of the old type, Lytkarinsky, M42 (no review yet)
- JUPITER-9 2 / 85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, M42
- MC JUPITER-9 2/85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, with 'MS', M42
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
Before the release of 'black' lenses, such as the one shown in this review, Lytkarino released white model Jupiter-9 2/85.
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
The optical layout of the JUPITER-9 2/85 was copied from Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2/85. Of course, Zonnar himself has much better optical performance than his twin brother.
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
JUPITER-9 2/85 is soundly assembled - all made of metal and glass. The focus ring rotates smoothly. During focusing, the front lens does not rotate, and the frame of the body moves forward. The focus ring rotates 270 degrees (!). During focusing, the entire lens unit moves. The minimum focusing distance is 80 cm. The maximum ratio for macro photography is 1: 7.3. The lens can use standard 49mm filters.
The lens has an installation ring and aperture preset ring. The setting ring can take one of the following fixed values: F / 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16. The preset ring rotates smoothly and with this you can set any value of the number F. There is also a DOF scale for the same values of the number F as on the aperture setting ring. It is very nice that the diaphragm consists of as many as 15 petals. And it is a pity that the petals are metallic, reflecting light.
The native cover simply fits snugly to the frame of the case and can easily be lost.
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
On the open aperture, the lens does not have any sharpness and contrast, which can be skillfully used to create portraits. But still, for ordinary purposes, the sharpness of the lens is clearly not enough. Even closing the aperture to F 2.8, the expected sharpness does not come. In fact, loss of contrast and strong software between the f / 2.0-2.8 apertures, mostly black Lytkarin lenses, such as in this review, suffer. White brothers from the Krasnogorsk plant can be used with the F / 2.0 aperture.
It is quite difficult to focus on the JUPITER-9 2/85 on a fully open aperture, and at first the soft effect was taken by me for misses when focusing.
At f / 5.6, the JUPITER-9 2/85 delivers normal sharpness. The lens 'greens' the picture a little.
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
How to use with modern cameras?
Lenses with mounting thread M42 (M42 X 1 / 45.5), such as the lens from this review, are very easy to use on almost any modern digital camera (both SLR and mirrorless), for this it is enough to choose the right adapter (adapter). You do not need to carry out any additional steps to modify the lens.
The cheapest adapters can be found at Aliexpress.com... There are adapters (adapters) with a chip that provide more convenience during shooting, usually chips are used to confirm focus and / or metering exposure, and form the correct EXIF. The chip does not affect the image quality in any way.
For some SLR cameras (for example, with the Nikon F-mount), you need to use adapters with a corrective lens, which allows you to focus correctly at all focusing distances. For any mirrorless cameras, such a lens is not needed, and the adapter is a simple decorated hollow metal tube with an appropriate mount.
For SLR cameras
- Canon: For cameras Canon EOS with bayonet mount EF / EF-S need an M42-Canon EOS adapter, such an adapter with a chip can be found herewithout chip here.
- NIKON: For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with a Nikon F mount, you need an M42-Nikon F adapter, you can buy such an adapter without a lens and a chip here, with a lens without a chip herewith chip without lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens? Why chip?
- PENTAX: For Pentax cameras with K mount, you need an M42-Pentax K adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.
- SONY/MINOLTA: For cameras with a Sony / Minolta A mount, you need the M42-Sony A adapter, you can find such an adapter without a chip at this linkwith a chip at this link.
- OLYMPUS/PANASONIC/LEICA: For cameras with a 4/3 bayonet mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) You need an M42-4 / 3 adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.
For mirrorless cameras
- SONY: For cameras with 'E'/'FE' mount series SonyNEX и Sony Alpha you need an adapter M42-Sony E (aka M42-Sony Nex), you can find it at this link. An autofocus adapter is also available for these cameras. Techart PRO Leica M - Sony E Autofocus Adapterwhich can be found at this link.
- OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK / XIAOMI: For cameras with a bayonet mount Micro 4/3 (Micro 4:3) you need an adapter M42-Micro 4/3, you can find it at this link.
- CANON M: For cameras with Canon EF-M mount need adapter M42-Canon M, it can be found at this link.
- CANON R and RF-S: For cameras with Canon RF mount need adapter M42-Canon R, it can be found at this link.
- Nikon 1: For cameras Nikon 1 Series need adapter M42-Nikon 1, you can find it at this link.
- Nikon Z: For cameras Nikon Z series (FX/DX) need an adapter M42-Nikon Z, it can be found at this link.
- FUJIFILM X: For cameras with mount X need an M42-Fuji X adapter, you can find it at this link.
- FUJIFILM GFX: For medium format cameras G-mount need M42-Fuji GFX adapter, you can find it at this link.
- SAMSUNG: For cameras with NX mount, you need an M42-Samsung NX adapter, you can find it at this link. There are no adapters for the NX mini camera yet.
- PENTAX: For Q-mount cameras, you need an M42-Pentax Q adapter, you can find it at this link.
- SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with L mount you need an M42-Leica L adapter, you can find it at this link.
- LEICA: For cameras with a bayonet mount Leica M need adapter M42-L / M, you can find it at this link.
If you have any questions on compatibility and adapters - ask in the comments (comments do not require any registration at all).
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
Important lens parameters for Jupiter 9
- Large maximum aperture F / 2.0 and a focal length of 85 mm make it easy to control the depth of the sharply imaged space.
- The lens is quite heavy.
- The diaphragm consists of 15 petals and ideal for portraits, gives smooth bokeh. Also, an excellent zonnar scheme for 7 elements in 3 groups helps to create excellent bokeh.
- The lens suffers strong spherical aberration on the open aperture.
- Compactness - the lens is small, several times smaller than a modern similar autofocus lens Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM.
- The lens uses a simple single-layer enlightenment and is very afraid of flare (it feels like there is no enlightenment at all).
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)
Below are photos taken on Nikon D90. In different galleries, photographs are taken with different aperture values. No processing (except resize). To remember the aperture value, you have to do tricks. At 2.0 shoot in RAW, at 2.8 shoot at JPEG L size, at 5.6 JPEG M size.
Aperture Examples 2.0
Aperture Examples 2.8
Aperture Examples 5.6
Full frame examples:
Source files can download from this link (55 photos in the '.ARW' format, 1.280 Mb). The gallery shows 'camera JPEG'. On camera Sony a7 I used the lens with the M42-NEX adapter without any problems.
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and HELIOS-44-2 2/58 (MMZ)
Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.
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The JUPITER-9 2/85 is a fun lens with strong soft effect at full aperture. From an aperture of f / 2.8, the lens noticeably increases its sharpness. Can serve as an interesting creative lens, in particular for portraits :).
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That is, if I install a micro 4/3 on my Olympus, for example, U-9 or (in an extreme case) Pentacon 2.8 / 135, can I get something like a portrait? Sorry, what does it mean “to maneuver is inconvenient” ??? In the room there will be nowhere to go to take a portrait ??? Will these lenses be too long for a portrait ??? Rather, they will become one "near" telephoto, and the second - a real telephoto? And then on the street without a tripod - no, no ???
Like a portrait can I get? - Can. For a portrait, distortion and a small grip are very important.
Excuse me, what does “maneuver inconvenient” mean? - it means that in order to change the composition you will have to work quite seriously with your feet, perform a maneuver.
In the room there will be nowhere to go to take a portrait? - in an ordinary small apartment, this will be the case.
Are these lenses getting too long for a portrait? - lenses do not lengthen, they maintain their focal length, but the apparent angle on the crop decreases. The question is rather about how convenient it will be for you to use it.
Rather, they will become one "near" telephoto, and the second - a real telephoto? - the lenses do not lengthen, they maintain their focal length, but at the angles of view they will seem “short” or real telephoto lenses, since on your 4/3 you will see only the central area of the image projected by the lens.
And then on the street without a tripod - no, no? - in normal lighting, you can shoot without a tripod, the main thing is to follow the shutter speed rule, in more detail here.
Or, to get a portrait lens on a cropped matrix, you can install a manual “fifty kopeck piece”. If so, which one is better to take for this? Thanks for answering this and the previous question!
A lot of people use exactly fifty dollars (50mm) on cropped matrices to create a portrait. Fifty dollars there is a dark darkness. I personally like Pancolar and Helios-77m-4, and also, our 58mm lenses like Helios-44 and its modifications are very interesting.
Thank you, Arkady! You have enlightened me at least a little. Means, this "distortion" and "small depth of field" in new lenses is possible, only for solid money ??? :)))
New lenses, especially portrait ones, really cost a lot of money. But with the help of old non-autofocus, for example, Soviet lenses, you can achieve the same effect for a much smaller amount of money. See examples for yourself, I have a lot of manual lenses and pictures on them on my site, for example, my beloved Helios-81n, is in the region of 20.e. and the picture (even for a portrait) gives amazing.
Oh, happiness! So I have an old Helios-44-2 lying around somewhere !!! ;) I'll try on it, then - let's see what's in the wallet, whether to unfold on something more solid!
Here is the Helios-44m-2 reviewer, you can get a very good result on it.
Thank you, Arkady, for your asceticism! It is precisely these practical tips and consultations that are lacking in different instructions and textbooks on photo-making. Explains you clearly and give useful examples.
I sell my Jupiter-9
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Jupiter-9, like Helios 44-2, is most easily converted to Nikon. You don't need to saw anything. The lens spins up into two parts clockwise (lens unit and focusing part). The adjustment rings are removed - it turns out to focus on six meters. If more is needed, then the rear lens is turned inside out for a few turns (I got 3,25). Everything is infinity in stock.
Error-counterclockwise ...
Arkady tell me JUPITER-9 AUTOMATIC 2/85 what is this objective? I took one for myself recently, only a problem, he has a bayonet, but how to remake it for Nikon? Help .... pliz!
Lens with bayonet mount from Kiev-10. Landing on Nikon will be problematic.
But what about the characteristics of a lens?
It is quite good, but his working segment is very small. In principle, you can re-sharpen on a mirrorless mirror.
I don’t know, is it worth taking something to search or shove it?
don’t know, I just wanted to focus. distance 85, so that it’s not expensive and normal. what do you advise on nikon D7000
I advise Nikon 85mm F1.8D
Thank you, this is understandable, but from manual Soviet optics?
From the Soviet with an 85mm white version of the Yu-9. The rest of the MS Helionar 1.4 / 85 and G-40 and G-40-2 I do not recommend because of the frantic high cost. Better already Kaleinar-5n 105mm
Good afternoon ! I have one question in my hands literally accidentally fell Jupiter-9 No. 7610381 I could not tell what thread on it ... thanks
I can’t tell, see for yourself, but rather, measure the diameter with a ruler :)
It’s just that this lens just brought home .. black, Lytkarinsky, export, in a box. In great condition. Thanks to the previous owners. 90 year of release. Definitely heavy. And it looks cool on the camera))))) It inspires confidence.
Congratulations on your new thing.
and yet where can I buy Jupiter 9 white?
For example, in the manual optics section.
It looks like I have an export version of JUPITER-9, with a 2-16 aperture on it.
I have the last JUPITER-9 MC (number 0000707). Until I set the screen with wedges, I thought that I was not sharp. So do not rush to draw conclusions about the sharpness in the open. (Or maybe I was just lucky with the glass?) I use it for portraits on crop, I am satisfied. Anyway, in vain some of the Hayat Soviet glass. Being engaged in commercial shooting from modern I have only 18-135 zoom. Old men Helios 44k-4, jupiter-9, ms wave 9, and jupiterko 37a are quite able to cope and bring me bread and butter
PS I work as a pentax, so there are no problems with infinity, confirmation of focus, shooting with aperture priority, etc., etc., no.
And on Helios, too, are there problems with getting into focus? I'm also sitting on the pentax, but the problem is with focusing, I can’t get there, there are no problems with Jupiter, what should I do ??????????????????????????
And not on Helios! True, only the 4th took root. The previous 3 - soap, but ... the problems with Helios ended when I put the focusing screen with prisms and Doden wedges (I sawed the screen myself from the faulty Yashik that I got for free). The problem was that the lens had (according to the confirmation) front focus. I am with a wedge, even I, not possessing eagle vision :), I see when in focus and when by.
If your camera has a Live View mode, put it on a tripod and focus on the screen. A couple of shots are open and it will be clear what the reason is: in the eyes or in the lens. Helios has the depth of field, it’s hard to get there (as well as on the U-9)
Good day, Arkady. Thank you for your interesting article. If it does not bother you, please answer ... how will this lens behave with the nikon d5100 if you use the m42-nikon adapter without a lens with a dandelion ?? how far can he focus ?? can i use live view for easier focusing ?? thanks in advance.
The distance will be the same as in the examples in this review. Regarding dandelion, everything is written in the Dandelion Lushnikov section. Regarding the focus, everything is written in the Soviet optics section.
Thank you very much for your answer.
Tell me, is Jupiter 9Avtomat better than the export version of Jupiter9?
Or in general, what can you say about this lens (automatic)
Thank you!
The machine can not be used with the central brake valve due to the short working distance.
Tell me, be a weasel, Yu-9 z MS є tіlki chorny? So it’s, then, more beautifully than the black brother with the MS, all the same with the Yu-9?
Better white, black MS did not meet, maybe there is.
Just change the chorny and seem to me less than the black ones.
And do you have a b MS? Is there anything you can do?
I do not sell optics, you are here - https://radojuva.com.ua/2012/09/manualnaya-optika/
Dyakoy, I’ve clarified it for myself.
The axis was smashed into a pantelic with less than a wire: “I’m going to blame you on a cropped matrix, you will be a teleobject,” but not a portrait one, on a new one there will be only a few blocks on a frame 8-10 meters long !!! - chi tse so?
No, he will remain the same good portrait lens.