Overview of JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

This review presents a JUPITER-9 2/85 lens manufactured by LZOS (Lytkarinsky Optical Glass Plant, Lytkarino) with M42 mounting thread and serial number 8510041, most likely manufactured in 1985.

Below shown list of major versions of JUPITER / JUPITER-9:

  1. JUPITER-9 2/85 AUTOMATIC. In the case for the Kiev-10/15 cameras, the Arsenal plant (Kiev), the Kiev-Avtomat mount
  2. JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm. In a white case, Krasnogorsk, mount Contact-Kiev
  3. JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P. In the white building, Arsenal building (Kiev), Contact-Kiev bayonet mount
  4. Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8,5cm P... In a white case, KMZ, M39 for Zenit cameras
  5. JUPITER-9 2/85. In a white case, Lytkarinsky, M39 for Zenit cameras
  6. In the black case of the old type, Lytkarinsky, M42 (no review yet)
  7. JUPITER-9 2 / 85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, M42
  8. MC JUPITER-9 2/85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, with 'MS', M42
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

Before the release of 'black' lenses, such as the one shown in this review, Lytkarino released white model Jupiter-9 2/85.

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

The optical layout of the JUPITER-9 2/85 was copied from Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2/85. Of course, Zonnar himself has much better optical performance than his twin brother.

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 is soundly assembled - all made of metal and glass. The focus ring rotates smoothly. During focusing, the front lens does not rotate, and the frame of the body moves forward. The focus ring rotates 270 degrees (!). During focusing, the entire lens unit moves. The minimum focusing distance is 80 cm. The maximum ratio for macro photography is 1: 7.3. The lens can use standard 49mm filters.

The lens has an installation ring and aperture preset ring. The setting ring can take one of the following fixed values: F / 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16. The preset ring rotates smoothly and with this you can set any value of the number F. There is also a DOF scale for the same values ​​of the number F as on the aperture setting ring. It is very nice that the diaphragm consists of as many as 15 petals. And it is a pity that the petals are metallic, reflecting light.

The native cover simply fits snugly to the frame of the case and can easily be lost.

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

On the open aperture, the lens does not have any sharpness and contrast, which can be skillfully used to create portraits. But still, for ordinary purposes, the sharpness of the lens is clearly not enough. Even closing the aperture to F 2.8, the expected sharpness does not come. In fact, loss of contrast and strong software between the f / 2.0-2.8 apertures, mostly black Lytkarin lenses, such as in this review, suffer. White brothers from the Krasnogorsk plant can be used with the F / 2.0 aperture.

It is quite difficult to focus on the JUPITER-9 2/85 on a fully open aperture, and at first the soft effect was taken by me for misses when focusing.

At f / 5.6, the JUPITER-9 2/85 delivers normal sharpness. The lens 'greens' the picture a little.

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

How to use with modern cameras?

Lenses with mounting thread M42 (M42 X 1 / 45.5), such as the lens from this review, are very easy to use on almost any modern digital camera (both SLR and mirrorless), for this it is enough to choose the right adapter (adapter). You do not need to carry out any additional steps to modify the lens.

The cheapest adapters can be found at Aliexpress.com... There are adapters (adapters) with a chip that provide more convenience during shooting, usually chips are used to confirm focus and / or metering exposure, and form the correct EXIF. The chip does not affect the image quality in any way.

For some SLR cameras (for example, with the Nikon F-mount), you need to use adapters with a corrective lens, which allows you to focus correctly at all focusing distances. For any mirrorless cameras, such a lens is not needed, and the adapter is a simple decorated hollow metal tube with an appropriate mount.

For SLR cameras

  1. Canon: For cameras Canon EOS with bayonet mount EF / EF-S need an M42-Canon EOS adapter, such an adapter with a chip can be found herewithout chip here.
  2. NIKON: For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with a Nikon F mount, you need an M42-Nikon F adapter, you can buy such an adapter without a lens and a chip here, with a lens without a chip herewith chip without lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens? Why chip?
  3. PENTAX: For Pentax cameras with K mount, you need an M42-Pentax K adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.
  4. SONY/MINOLTA: For cameras with a Sony / Minolta A mount, you need the M42-Sony A adapter, you can find such an adapter without a chip at this linkwith a chip at this link.
  5. OLYMPUS/PANASONIC/LEICA: For cameras with a 4/3 bayonet mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) You need an M42-4 / 3 adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.

For mirrorless cameras

  1. SONY: For cameras with 'E'/'FE' mount series SonyNEX и Sony Alpha you need an adapter M42-Sony E (aka M42-Sony Nex), you can find it at this link. An autofocus adapter is also available for these cameras. Techart PRO Leica M - Sony E Autofocus Adapterwhich can be found at this link.
  2. OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK / XIAOMI: For cameras with a bayonet mount Micro 4/3 (Micro 4:3) you need an adapter M42-Micro 4/3, you can find it at this link.
  3. CANON M: For cameras with Canon EF-M mount need adapter M42-Canon M, it can be found at this link.
  4. CANON R and RF-S: For cameras with Canon RF mount need adapter M42-Canon R, it can be found at this link.
  5. Nikon 1: For cameras Nikon 1 Series need adapter M42-Nikon 1, you can find it at this link.
  6. Nikon Z: For cameras Nikon Z series (FX/DX) need an adapter M42-Nikon Z, it can be found at this link.
  7. FUJIFILM X: For cameras with mount X need an M42-Fuji X adapter, you can find it at this link.
  8. FUJIFILM GFX: For medium format cameras G-mount need M42-Fuji GFX adapter, you can find it at this link.
  9. SAMSUNG: For cameras with NX mount, you need an M42-Samsung NX adapter, you can find it at this link. There are no adapters for the NX mini camera yet.
  10. PENTAX: For Q-mount cameras, you need an M42-Pentax Q adapter, you can find it at this link.
  11. SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with L mount you need an M42-Leica L adapter, you can find it at this link.
  12. LEICA: For cameras with a bayonet mount Leica M need adapter M42-L / M, you can find it at this link.

If you have any questions on compatibility and adapters - ask in the comments (comments do not require any registration at all).

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

Important lens parameters for Jupiter 9

  1. Large maximum aperture F / 2.0 and a focal length of 85 mm make it easy to control the depth of the sharply imaged space.
  2. The lens is quite heavy.
  3. The diaphragm consists of 15 petals and ideal for portraits, gives smooth bokeh. Also, an excellent zonnar scheme for 7 elements in 3 groups helps to create excellent bokeh.
  4. The lens suffers strong spherical aberration on the open aperture.
  5. Compactness - the lens is small, several times smaller than a modern similar autofocus lens Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM.
  6. The lens uses a simple single-layer enlightenment and is very afraid of flare (it feels like there is no enlightenment at all).
JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

Below are photos taken on Nikon D90. In different galleries, photographs are taken with different aperture values. No processing (except resize). To remember the aperture value, you have to do tricks. At 2.0 shoot in RAW, at 2.8 shoot at JPEG L size, at 5.6 JPEG M size.

Aperture Examples 2.0

Aperture Examples 2.8

Aperture Examples 5.6

Full frame examples:

Source files can download from this link (55 photos in the '.ARW' format, 1.280 Mb). The gallery shows 'camera JPEG'. On camera Sony a7 I used the lens with the M42-NEX adapter without any problems.

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8G IF SWM

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and HELIOS-44-2 2/58 (MMZ)

JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS) and HELIOS-44-2 2/58 (MMZ)

Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.


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The JUPITER-9 2/85 is a fun lens with strong soft effect at full aperture. From an aperture of f / 2.8, the lens noticeably increases its sharpness. Can serve as an interesting creative lens, in particular for portraits :).

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Comments: 214, on the topic: Overview of JUPITER-9 2/85 (LZOS)

  • Valery

    Selling black Lytkarinsky, 91 years old (judging by the number 9127326), excellent condition, no scratches.
    tel.0953377334

    • Valery

      Sold out.

  • Lily

    And for me it’s exactly like that only with the MS in front of the name. With an adapter without a lens, it takes 7 meters. (On Nikon d80)

  • Sergei

    Byaka, take Kaleinar or Jup. Zeiss Zonnar any, Nikon 105 / 2.5 finally. But there are soap lovers who pass it off as artistry. The best choice for them. This, Tair11 and also G-44-m * (Not 44!), Where g from the word shit.

    • Chebe

      G-44-m * (Not 44!), Where r is from the word shit.

      Sergey, you are mistaken, and 44 and 44m may be muddy, or they may be indistinguishable from the native Tseissovsky Biotar.
      Do not generalize, Soviet glass is always a lottery, and as in any lottery, not everyone is lucky and not always.

  • Oleg

    Hello. Which lens do you recommend to use for shooting a portrait on except, this one or Wave-3?

    • Rodion

      Volna-3 strongly chromatite, checked. In general - not the most pleasant lens, as it seemed to me.
      Black Jupiter-9 is also soapy, which is pretty fair (it is impossible to shoot on crop), also not very.
      I would recommend the Vega-12 lens: cheap, very sharp and with a nice biometar pattern.
      Well, or an expensive option - look for a white Krasnogorsk Jupiter-9 rangefinder and convert it to M42.
      The ultra-cheap (although ... not now) option is 92/2 from the projector. After a simple alteration and finishing it gives an excellent result!

    • Ivan

      Any cheap fifty dollars)))
      Stupid question

    • Lynx

      Anyone at all.

  • Alexander Hedgehog

    I added an adjustment ring of 0.15 mm under the front lens, and the hood from 50 Industar calibrated, and the roofing felts became better, the placebo effect worked, but in general, on F 4 the black is a good, moderately “near-sharp” portrait lens with a cool color rendering. Yu9's favorite!

  • anonym

    If objectively - shovel junk, it is better to add and take samyang ...

    • Pastor

      And you can also add your own. And also Nikon 85 1.4g or Canon 85 1.2L. Here all the joy is in the price :) But I agree that the lens is very far from modern analogs (and old, but German / Japanese glasses). However, I sometimes shoot portraits with this Jupiter and I like the software from the camera, as they say. It differs from software made on a computer, and in general, the plus is that nothing needs to be done - all at once. As the only 85, probably not the best option, only if there is no money. But as an addition, it is quite suitable. I cut a long hood to mine, it looks ugly, but now I'm not afraid of the sun.

    • anonym

      Dear, do not mislead inexperienced youth with lies and your absolute ignorance. Do not talk indiscriminately about everything and everyone, just not in the subject. Soviet optics is different. There is EXCELLENT, at the level of and above the level of the world, and there is also bad. (And keep in mind that anyone could climb into an optical device over the decades, twist and “adjust” everything on their nose. We need a copy that no one has climbed into and which has been well and correctly stored, all these decades, and many more half a century, otherwise in the heat all the lenses are in the vapors of oil condensate and they are all cloudy, in the damp there is fungus and mold on the lenses, or even corrosion, with the same dire consequences.In the USSR, they did not treat optics with reverence and treated her as a purely applied thing). And if we talk specifically about JUPITER - 9 That is, TWO ABSOLUTELY DIFFERENT LENSES JUPITER - 9, THIS IS SE - 9 CMZ, White, before the 60s, better enlightened, EXCELLENT! And everything else that is called the same, but is not! With rare exceptions in the last years of production of U - 9 MC black. Here is a reference to Yu-9: http://www.sonynex.ru/threads/jupiter-9-85-2-0.586/page-2 Read and look at TWO DIFFERENT LENSES with the same name, and finally screw the old 50 year old foreign lenses onto your camera and try them out! The vast majority are inferior to our optics. SOVIET - MEANS THE BEST !!! :-) :-) :-) But there are exceptions among foreigners and there are many of them. Conclusion . Everything must be tried and judged soberly, without silly indiscriminateness. As, for example, Arkady does, presenting tests with our glasses incognito and many shout Zeiss, takumar, Nikkor and so on. And these are our own lenses. So that's it! We think - and then we write the current!)

      • Rodion

        Soviet doesn't mean the best. The maximum is a worthy compromise, nothing more.

        • off

          Laser weapons are a compromise to what.

      • Foreign land

        Are you just delusional ... have you ever held any of the 60s in your hands a deprived? You don't even know what you are talking about, poor fellow ...

  • Rodion

    Vegu-22 reminds - on the open soap, but on the covered ones it's already good)
    And the sharp bokekha is the same.

  • anonym

    Very nice comment. Thanks for the work. I have such a lens since the Soviet period. Very like. Sorry not autofocus.

  • anonym

    Gorgeous glass! I like him!

  • anonym

    please tell me whether this lens is suitable for Nikon D 3200 carcass?

  • Andrei

    Good lens, but not suitable for me. I would sell it. Does anyone need it?

  • anonym

    Selling. 4500 r. + forwarding.
    Good condition, covers, carrying cases included.
    Without defects, scratches, on the case there are no significant scuffs and a couple of dust particles inside, do not affect the quality of shooting. Everything works, everything turns.
    Reason for sale. I bought Helios-40.
    Who needs to write.
    https://vk.com/punksnotdeaht

  • Sergei

    The photo lens is black, Lytkarino, “Jupiter9” 2 / 85mm year of manufacture according to number 1982, it is quite sharp not only on the F / 5,6 aperture, but on the F / 4 aperture it gives a sharp picture, the photo was taken under diffused light, in cloudy weather.

    • anonym

      If you close the aperture two stops, many even soapy lenses will give an acceptably sharp picture. The really good and sharp U-9 is when you can shoot from f / 2.0. My black MC is sharp from 2.8, but still stands on the shelf, since the very pulp from it should be at 2.0, and it is almost useless for anything. A very strange lens and even weirder that with such an obvious manufacturing defect they were released until the mid-90s and quality control was skipped.

      • Sergei

        Anonymous Why take pictures at a fully open aperture with a portrait lens of Jupiter 9 - it's hard to understand even though my Jupiter 9 shoots sharply and at f / 2 aperture. You will have sharp only the tip of the nose to be portrayed, and everything else will be vague. I understand if you are a photographer, but no, you are likely to be like you, just show off.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Not certainly in that way. There are full-length portraits. Here are examples - not just 85mm, but 200mm at f / 2 using a lens Canon 200 / 2- link to photo 1, 2 link, 3 link etc.

        • Valentine

          Sergey, any photographer (and not just a photo artist) can shoot a portrait with sharpness in his eyes or, as you put it, on the tip of his nose. If you do not like this type of photo, then this is NOT a problem for photographers. Arkady and Yuri gave you examples when in the open depth of field it includes the entire subject. But even when the depth of field does not cover the object completely, this is neither a mistake nor a show off. The criteria for evaluating photos are different.

          • Sergei

            A technically correct close-up portrait should be sharp in front of our eyes and on nothing else, everything else is marriage - this is the canon of portrait photography and not even my preferences.

            • York

              You tell this to Kolosov. As well as Slyusarev and many others.
              The petabytes of your “technically correct portraits” at every shit exhibition make you sick, since you are making these exhibitions. You believe that if you have mastered the multiplication table somehow, then already the grand academics and uber grandmasters. And you look - and there is nothing to catch your eye, completely or simply, or dull shit.

              And to blame for this, essno, filthy sovetskie glasses, yeah.

      • Sergei

        Jupiter 9 “black” LZOS Lytkarino, issue year 1982, shot at f / 2 https://ibb.co/fQxFfJ

  • Novel

    Hello. You can say this lens fell from the sky into my hands. excellent little foot. I use on a canon 600d with a dandelion. I would like to know its real price. full name of glass
    MC Jupiter 9 f2 / 85 1997 release. LZOS. I got in a sealed case (that is, brand new) and so. what's the price?? admins of good

  • Andrei

    Something I do not understand that everyone is so unhappy. I had one until I borrowed a friend, and he lost him somewhere. So the memories are only positive. I really liked shooting on Yu9. Now I would love to take it off, but dear he. I think Yu9 is the best. He was perfect for me. Now I’m mostly shooting on u37A, I also like it.

  • Vadim

    Good day! Please advise what is better to take for Fujifil X-T20 Jupiter 9 or PENTACON elektric 2.8 / 135? The goals are mainly portrait ones.

    • Rodion

      Pentacon, if Jupiter-9 is not Krasnogorsk.

      • Vadim

        Thank you!

        • Foreign land

          Electrician why do you need God? Buy this 105 Nikkorovskaya in this range and forget about this stuff ...

  • Anuar Chereksky

    Very good portraitist! As for me, this is no worse than the Helios 40, one thing is bad - recently the prices for both of these lenses have risen unreasonably high.

    • Foreign land

      Garbage is an optical and not a portrait. Portraits as a rule were made by the Germans as well.

  • EvgenyDd

    I will sell in Moscow or with the transfer of Jupiter-9. With M39 thread. Excellent condition, black, complete with two covers. 4500 re.
    +79264478038

    • EvgenyDd

      Sold

  • IMHO

    Still, at 2.0 it’s a little soapy but it looks a lot nicer, because RAW. But the camera jpegs are no good.

  • Novel

    I still didn’t understand from the topic whether it is possible to put white Jupiter-9 on Nikon’s crop so that the focus is not limited to the distance to a meter?
    As I understand it, the black one is suitable (but it’s soapy), while the white one needs to be planted deeper into the carcass?

    • Michael

      If M42, then no, if M39, then you need to go deeper

    • KalekseyG

      Saw, only saw.

  • Sergei

    Photo original image taken by me at a fully open aperture of f / 2, Jupiter 9 “black” lens, produced by LZOS Lytkarino, 1982 It is not clear whether it will be possible to send a link to the image.https://ru.imgbb.com

  • Sergei

    "Jupiter 9" 2/85 mm black frame, produced by LZOS, Lytkarino, by number - 1982, the picture was taken by me at a fully open aperture of f / 2https://thumb.ibb.co/k6tkCy/906610010.jpg"alt="906610010" border = "0" / a>

    • Andrey Vyunenko

      Well then, quite good sharpness!

  • anonym

    Please help me deal with the lens. What is the mount with ears on it?
    https://ibb.co/bPEGQT
    https://ibb.co/bsqqkT

    • anonym

      It is not clear from this angle, show by "face"

  • Kirill Yankovsky

    The other day I came across a black Yu-9 MS with a mystically symmetric serial number 9012109 !!!

    Judging by the looks and the factory oil on the diaphragm and the cleanest lenses, it has never been used at all in 30 years. Sharpness in the DOF zone at f2 is quite enough for a portrait and other art. The drawing on F2 seemed unusual - it vaguely resembles Petsval and Zenitar 50 1.2 and does not at all look like any Helios

  • Artem

    Good afternoon, what is the difference between the short and long version of Jupiter-9?

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