I periodically collaborate with several retouchers. One of them is Lina, who agreed to give a short interview regarding her work. You can see her work here и here.
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- Lina, how long have you been doing retouching?
- In general - the fourth year. But for myself personally, I estimate the last 2.5 years most seriously.
- Is this the main type of employment, or just additional income?
- This is the main job. In recent years, quite a lot of regular customers have gathered, which is why the work flow is constant and the workload, as a rule, is maximum.
- How did it happen that retouching became one of the ways you earn money?
- It all started with an ordinary interest in post-processing. At first, I just mastered the program by the 'typing' method, then I began to study all kinds of video tutorials, manuals, materials. And when I realized that there was a great desire and due diligence, I started making money on it. And in comparison with the current situation, it should be noted that at the time I started working in the field of processing, the market for retouchers was very small.
- Who are your main clients?
- Definitely photographers, about 75% of the total, and makeup artists - about 15%.
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- Where do the orders come from?
-Orders come from everywhere: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus. There is work experience with the West.
- What are the most common retouching tasks?
- Smooth skin, clean background, be sure to work with plastic, especially if this is a full-length photo, add photos of 'glossiness'. In short, make it 'beautifully'.
- What do clients or agencies usually ask to do?
- Surprisingly, lately only 15-20% of customers indicate more or less detailed terms of reference (terms of reference). As a rule, attention is focused on such details as the elimination of certain objects from the background, clothes, hair. Everything else is 'standard'. The rest simply hand over the photo for retouching and rely only on my vision (perhaps, trusting the works from the portfolio).
- What are the funniest requests for the quality of retouching?
- I remember once asked to open my eyes in a photo where a person closed them. If there was a similar photo with open eyes - no problem, I would make a collage. But there was no analogue and the person was convinced that there is such a button in Photoshop that takes and opens his eyes. Some people periodically come up with questions like 'do you do photoshop?', 'Do you work with photoshop?', 'What is the name of the photoshop program in which you take photos?', 'What kind of filter did you use to get such skin?'.
- Have you worked as a photographer yourself? How important is it during shooting to understand how the image will be processed later?
- Did not work. But, since my husband is doing this, I had to hold the camera in my hands. In my opinion, it is not necessary to understand how the image will be processed later. The main thing is to give your best during shooting and show attention when working with light, the horizon, details that have got into the frame, even leaked makeup and a model's hair that has moved out, so that as little effort as possible is applied during post-processing. It is clear that Photoshop can do anything, but people who shoot and process their photos probably would not want to sit over one frame for hours.
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- A very interesting question for my readers: how strongly the difference in the number of pixels is felt for convenient photo processing. Is there a significant difference in the processing of 10, 18, 24, 36 MP images? More pixels - more work?
“That's exactly what I would say: more pixels means more work. This is especially noticeable in large portraits.
- Are you watching EXIF data, how was this or that picture taken? If so, which cameras or brands most often receive photos for processing?
- 85 percent - Canon owners. Even now, I basically looked at my last 5 orders. All photos were shot with different Canon models.
- Is there a significant difference in color processing from Nikon, Canon, Sony, Pentax cameras? What about skin tone brands? Which cameras do you like the picture the most?
- In my memory, I didn't have to work with Sony and Pentax. The main stream of orders is Canon, less often there are photos taken with Nikon. In both cases, there are both bad and good photos, and in general, the situation is similar with skin tone. Therefore, I came to the conclusion that it does not really matter which brand you hold in your hands. I think that good visage, correct work with light, color temperature and shooting in raw will help to get the right color.
- Is it difficult to make the right skin tone using Photoshop? Should the photographer worry about the color during shooting if the photo will be further processed? Is it always possible to make a good skin tone?
- Not always, especially if it's not RAW. The photographer should worry, as I noted above - it is better to do the maximum before the post-processing process. I have a specially created action to create a standard skin tone, so I would not say that there are any global difficulties.
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- Is it easier for you to start processing from a raw RAW file or from some kind of JPEG?
- Of course it's easier to work with RAW format! Raw material - more possibilities.
- Don't you think that sometimes your treatment kills the skin?
- I know it! Because I do not practice Hi-End processing. And in working with frequency decomposition, one way or another, the texture of the skin is repeatedly copied and replaced and the volume is partially killed, which then has to be enhanced or added separately.
- What can you say about the fact that the entire Internet is clogged with plastic skin with unnatural anti-aliasing. Is this a fashion statement or a downside to the grief of photographers / retouchers?
- In my opinion, both! The grief of retouchers is, of course, a separate topic, but gaining experience is on their way. Taste and outlook on processing very often change, therefore their shortcomings are not as terrible as trends set by fashion. In the west, for example, natural processing is the price.
- What is more difficult to retouch? What takes the most time?
- It is difficult to retouch large portraits with porous skin. It is difficult to work with hair, to paint eyelashes, especially if you don't have a tablet at hand. As a rule, it takes a lot of time when working with color, especially if you do not know exactly what you want to achieve from a picture and start experimenting.
- Tell us what art processing is? How does it differ from retouching?
- Artistic retouching is also retouching. The only difference is that in the artist, in addition to standard work, all kinds of light and color effects, texture overlays are used, you can experiment with toning, add some additional details, partially or completely replace the background or individual parts of the photo, in general - from the simplest collages before drawing!
- How long does it take on average to edit one photograph?
- It all depends on the tasks. From 30 minutes to several hours.
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- What tools do you most often use for processing (photoshop, lightrum, plugins). Are there any secret techniques?
- Photoshop. Lightroom is extremely rare. I try not to use plugins, especially in terms of working with color. Sometimes with the help of a plugin I add a backlight (although this is quite easy to do manually) or bokeh. I appreciate manual processing more. There are no secret methods - except that I write most of the frequently used functions into actions, which greatly saves processing time.
- Do you teach retouching? How long does it take to become a good retoucher?
- I am doing my training, so far only on the retouching of the portrait. My lesson is designed for 2 hours, during which time I have time to tell and show the techniques of frequency decomposition, dodge and burn, how to work with volume and other details. This is quite enough to get the basics and understand the theory, and everything else is a matter of the student's subsequent practice. To become a good retoucher, you need a lot of diligence, patience and attention, and when your hand is full, the processing time will take several times less.
- Readers are interested in how not to overdo it with retouching?
- It's all simple. Relax in the process, periodically leave the computer. And if there is an opportunity - then generally look at the photo with a “fresh” look at another day. Be sure to review the work “before and after”. If there is too much retouching, it will be obvious in comparison.
- Tell us about the hard life of a retoucher, are there any moments with which you would like to share?
- There are situations when the hand on the photo simply does not lie down. Retouching, which takes an average of 20 minutes, takes an hour or more. And when the workload is large and it is simply impossible to calculate the deadline with accuracy - this is a nightmare. Almost all customers expect to receive the finished material in a short time. Some people generally think that I work at any time of the day and do not have days off.
Sometimes there are clients who voice the technical assignment only after the delivery of the finished material. In such cases, I always ask myself a question - why all these details were not indicated before the start of work?
There are quite a few people who do not understand the difference between good or bad photo quality and its influence on the processing result. And it is very difficult to explain to them that the pictures in my portfolio are from good cameras, taken by professionals, and that the same result cannot be obtained in a photo from an iPhone.
The most difficult thing is when you see the processing in your own, definite way, in which you are used to working, and the customer drew something else in his head, of course, he did not issue the TOR and was surprised that he received a different result. Without difficulties, nowhere, and, probably, there is a retoucher for each customer. The main thing is to love what you do.
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Wai, wai! Why did a lot of "portraiture" flow? Can't it be retouched with pens without this filter? It's even a shame that on such a respected resource this time such a disregard for content (
for fashion magazines with advertising is the most. although the result in the comments is as always predictable)
Something turned upside down in photography, portraits began to be filmed guided by marketing textbooks, high-resolution cameras, using sharp lenses, a flash right in the face, and not yet slept and washed after evening makeup, not only the retoucher profession will soon be in demand, but also the ideal one mummy for photographers.
The retoucher girl, to whom the work is presented just fine done, found a hole in the photo business industry among photo docs.
Everyone pounced on Lina because they simply didn't like the photos. This, however, is not surprising - they were clearly filmed by a novice photographer and an absolutely terrible make-up artist. They will make the model orange ears - it's just some kind of trash ... Lina has just greatly improved this nightmare. I made them plastic and tried to give at least some volume. Where the would-be photographer and would-be makeup artist have worked, no retoucher will help.
The photographer does the hiding, the retoucher does the rest :)
Apparently these are photos of make-up artists, not professionals, or simply taken at Canon, the first photo does not have leather, but it’s like naturally some kind of land :)
And in the first photo, the model's face after processing lost its symmetry - her left cheekbone remained narrow, and on the right it became wide.
“… From which cameras or brands do you most often receive photos for processing?
- 85 percent - Canon owners ... "
Nikon does not need processing!
PS. Free simple recipe for processing in Photoshop.
1. Paint over the pimples and spots with the Spot Restoration Brush (J).
2. Using the tool “Stamp” (S) with low density, we work out bruises, bags, wrinkles, etc.
3. Finish in the Imagenomic Portraiture plugin. Do not overdo it!
4. On top you can make a bit of noise.
IMPORTANT! The more manual work, the better the result!
Here you are just rushing from this article. I read about Kenon, I think it’s in vain. SchA begin. I envy Lynx just for the sake of this it was worth changing the system. (Humor)
So Ryska crawled from Nikon to Fuj?
And, now Anatoly is called Anonymous. Well hello, you filthy dog !! Especially for you, dog, not a "trot", but a LYNX !! Remember, at last, a little sick !!
Vasenka, don’t get personal, because it smells like a ban
that kind of crawled somewhere, HZ knows where and why. )))
Do you think he measured super duper Nikon and found a new super duper? )))
Therefore, it does not participate in the epic confrontation anymore. Our people are still wild. I'm afraid no one else will give us an interview
“... which cameras or brands most often receive photos for processing?
- 85 percent - Canon owners ... "
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all right. almost any professional photo portraits need to be retouched (of course, not the horror in the article).
the ratio of kenon-nikon in the pros is somewhere around 85%: 10%, well, about 5% for Sony.
so everything is true))))
"Nikon needs no processing!"
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:)))))
http://stelmakh.com/canon-vs-nikon-dorogoj-eksperiment/
Enough of all this Stelmakh poke. He really got an incorrect comparison of the canons of whose flagship with an unsuccessful Nikon semi-profile. Once again: Stelmach's COMPARISON IS INCORRECT !! Canon 1dh needs to be compared with Nikon d4, and certainly not with the infamous d800 !!
that even with D4))) what will it change?
kenon 6d-Mark 2-Mark 3 - ones 3 and 4 - the color is hardly distinguishable.
Nikons - about the same. there are a lot of holivars in the network.
the essence does not change - for portraits, kenon is an order of magnitude better in color, therefore, the pros mostly shoot portraits with them. which determines the indicated 85%))))
just for reference - D4 is better for reporting, rate of fire and high ISO. D800 - better in color, DD, and resolution. as a former owner of eshki, I can say this)))
Therefore, in the studio, portraits on D4 are usually NOT filmed - if you feel like shooting in the studio on Nikon! )))
Basil, take care of your nerves, Lynx will take care of himself, be healthy in your nails, and do not pay attention to kenonodrocher, especially the famous ones. You know one thing, one who even a little bit imagines the level of training, knowledge and skill of colorists as Nikon and Kenon will never even talk about who is better, and not what to argue.
for sure! Vasily, when the level of work of trot, yarkiy and other sectarians will be at least an order of magnitude lower than the levels of Stelmakh, Medvedev, Panteleev and other pros, then their discussions about skin and color will be at least somehow interesting.
to tell the truth, the trot is already progressing, changed the system from "green" to "plastic" - and then a step forward, well done! you look, maybe it will grow up to Sonya and the boot))))
ugh on you
“… A retoucher and Alexey”.
Here I am right about the same yarkiy
"Not with the shameful d800 !!"
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hmm .. if you open the review of the D800 here on the site, then the cultists foamed out proving that the D800 is just a super duper)))
but it turns out that even Vasily noticed that he was “shameful”! ))))
progress!!! ))))
as the owner of yeshki (D800e) absolutely disagree that the device is shameful))))
it is far from perfect, but for landscapes and objects in the studio - quite good)))
IMHO.
however, sectarians have only one step from adoration to hatred))) that's why they are sectarians. )))
ugh on you again
Interesting interview, thanks, Arkady!
Of course, Lina may not be the best retoucher in the world, there is a demand for such work. To be honest, I have little idea what kind of talent you need to have in order to plaster a problem model so that it becomes suitable for a magazine and a person, or even remains similar to itself. After all, it happens that you communicate in everyday life with a girl, and you could even call her beautiful, but as soon as you start photographing her, especially close-ups, sometimes you simply come to horror how many jambs are on her face. You start to gloss over and realize that a person is transforming ... transforming ... into elegant shorts. Ideally, you should try to hide flaws and emphasize the merits of the model at the stage of photographing, choosing a light and a pose. In the end, all the same, you cannot do without retouching, at least minimal, in our time.
All the same, it would be interesting to read an article about skintons - they are, in general, very different, not only generally accepted. While there is a feeling that the difference in the skin tones of different cameras is a philosophical and religious thing, and if you use the color checker / gray card correctly, then all the cameras will give approximately the same result and you shouldn't bother.
I propose to all interested holivars to guess the model of the camera in Lina's examples. So let's see what kind of nikon or kenon is so "blue" / "green" / "yellow" / "earth". Pictures are compressed to 2.272 X 1.704, if you open them in a new tab or look at a large enough monitor.
Probably, you misunderstood me. In fact, I am just an opponent of all kinds of holivars. Personally, I don't understand the problem of skintones, and if someone pointed a finger - they say, there is a difference, I probably would have listened. I read a lot that Nikon cameras have skintons worse than Canon cameras. I have Nikon and Olympus. Not so long ago, I bought myself the most simple color checker with a gray card. And when you set it up, both devices give approximately the same picture. Therefore, I conclude for myself that all dances around skin tones occur on the basis of white balance and the operation of the automatic WB of a particular camera in particular.
Returning to the skintones. They are different, human skin tones, and depend on many things - there is lighting, makeup, and even the emotional state of the model (people turn pale, turn red). If we are in some club with lilac lighting, we are not saying that the skin is not the same and differs from the skin of the same person illuminated on the street in the morning. Do not you need to build the BB of the frame on the face like a gray card, pulling out the same tone from everywhere? Or is it necessary? Therefore, I have always wondered how people can judge good or bad skin tone without knowing the shooting conditions. Or how you can compare cameras from different photos, with different shooting conditions. If you have any thoughts on this, it would be interesting to read, especially in the format of an article with examples. :]
“And when you set it up, both devices give approximately the same picture. That is why I conclude for myself that all the dances around skin tones are based on the white balance and the operation of the automatic WB of a particular camera in particular. "
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lay out RAVY please! It is very interesting to look at the same Nikon and Olik skinton.
Such a comparison must be taken seriously before spreading anything there and inciting strife on this basis. I am for the scientific approach, so to speak. All these skintons, DD and so on are quite measurable quantities and they just need to be measured once with sufficient diligence and a conclusion once and for all on the problem as a whole or on these camera specimens in particular, depending on the result. This is a studio with stable constant lighting. As a target, use the colorchecker great, and even better with gradients and transitions. Isolate the target from all external reflexes, be it the photographer himself or his clothes. Set BB on the target, manual exposure. The lens must be the same at a single aperture value, some reference Zeiss Karl, for example. …and so on…
The same goes for noise - they say such and such a device makes noise at 3200, such and such a device is worse. But somehow people do not take into account that they also depend on the noise exposure - the longer the shutter speed, the more noise, and on the correct exposure. Equivalent ISO of different cameras may in fact mean different sensitivity, just as the equivalent declared aperture ratio of lenses may in fact be different.
The devil is in the details. Therefore, I will not spread anything, because I don’t have a studio and as a reference I could use unless Helios. And I do not intend to take a selfie for you in the chopped spectrum of fluorescent lamps, given that this would not prove anything to anyone. : D
And Arkady has several cameras, several lenses, he is a professional and probably has access to studios. Actually, for such a test, he could get “a pair of each creature” for half a day and compare them according to the indicated parameters, if of course he is interested in this.
Sergey, you are stating something incomprehensible.
then you took paired pictures, you didn’t. you decide.
in my blog I posted the paired pictures from the ghoul, kenon, nikon.
I plan to lay out an olive later.
many bloggers posted similar comparisons.
the results are repeatable and reproducible:
with an identical BB (on the gray card), the color difference in many cases is microscopic for Nikon / Kenon / Olik / Sony.
in certain cases, depending on the shooting conditions, the best in color is the Sonya and Nikon BRs.
BZ Olik in color is very close to kenon.
the stumbling block is white skin skin. it is a combined color, difficult to process. and here, despite the identical BB, the difference comes out.
the easiest way to get a commercial skin tone is on kenon. worse - on sleep. Nikon is somewhere below. Olik often does not shine either.
if you have new pairwise comparison results, post it. )
Alexei, I did not take paired pictures (in my understanding, sufficient for a rigorous comparison). I took pictures when I bought a colorchecker, purely for fun, and in mixed artificial lighting, Nikon and Donkey gave offhand roughly the same colors. I did not photograph people at the same time. I must say right away that I am not a pro, and I am a lover, at best, a couple of times a week. I bought a colorchecker just for the purpose of tuning to the correct BB so that I would not be tormented later in the post-processing, wondering what the colors were.
Of course, I'm wondering if it's a myth or not a myth about skin tones. I have an idea how to somehow conduct an experiment to compare the improvised cameras by this parameter, and at the same time by noise on different ISOs (changing the intensity of illumination by the number of identical lamps turned on), so as not to go far and not disassemble the stand. I have a Nikon D7000, D90 (I haven't sold it yet after buying a Donkey), an Olympus E-M5 mk2 and a friend has a Fuji X-T1 with some kind of Fujinon 55 1.8 manual (which, apparently, will be the reference ). But to compare skin tones, you first need to understand what it is - it must be a certain range of sRGB colors, right? It is necessary to make some kind of target that would reproduce them with transitions and semitones, place it in an isolated box with fixed lighting. Adjust the BB according to the colorchecker when shooting, in fact only change the carcasses, fixing them on a tripod and observing strictly the same focus. Develop in an unbiased developer such as Rawtherapy, crop and compress images so that they are approximately pixel-by-pixel comparable for quick comparison. At the same time, try out different debayering algorithms, their effect on noise and colors.
So I see this comparison in simple words ...:] When the time will be for it I don't even know.
Where can I find your blog?
http://dmitry-novak.livejournal.com/216825.html
Could you post something similar?
You are right for the most part. I also made sure that in RAW the differences in cameras in color reproduction are small and that the greatest error in the image (including in the skinton) is made by the autoBB operation. But still, the color rendition of the cameras differs: http://www.fotodom.com.ua/index.php?id=60:ni&option=com_content&view=article
I was recently puzzled by such thoughts and conducted my experiments with paired pictures. Apparently I’ll have to write an article to Arkady from the reader about the fact that all the cameras are almost the same)))
Michael, of course the color rendering is different.
but!
shooting conditions should be such that the difference is visible and viewers should see it. otherwise difference = error.
specifically for such pictures as in the article, you can shoot for anything, it’s ridiculous to talk about the difference in color rendering.
Moreover, on tanned skin the difference between Nikon and Kenon is already much smaller than on tanned skin. what to say about the skin with such a wild Native American coloring))))
If we compare the BB car of Nikon and Kenon, then (IMHO!) the BB car in 6D / Mark 3 is much more accurate than that of Nikon D800e - I'm talking about the cameras with which I myself worked.
in fact, you hardly touch the BB at all, neither in the cameras nor in the post-processing, this is shocking after working with the D800)))).
I can send ColorChecker Passport, for the article :)
Arkady, dissemble.
the original photos are in fact a marriage. this "color" and "skin tone" can be obtained on absolutely any device, including an iPhone.
therefore guessing in this case is pointless.
it makes sense to discuss, for example, the intricacies of pork chops from Argentina or Germany, guess where, if the chop is overcooked to a burnt crust and sprinkled with salt abundantly? )))))))
Well, it turned out weak. EXIF then wiped out - in the end, there were only philosophizing about pork meat.
All the others are also silent in a rag.
it is neither canon nor nikon. This is something from Olympus-Panasonic.
Too much plastered no matter what. Look at some living area. I would venture to suggest that this is not the D700, D200, D300, D90 or D40.
By the way, these cameras give different pictures, at least because d200 and d40 are ssd with their own specific color. Therefore, with the same assumption, one could write the entire list of known cameras.
Who else has assumptions, and preferably with explanations.
Explanations - this is when you write “this is a sony a77 because the greenery is breaking through, and sony noise, banding and other delights are visible” (this is as an example).
Clever men here are rattling about Skinton, and no one has succeeded in expressing verbally their differences.
Arkady, the question was asked incorrect and, I apologize, stupid. It’s shitty to shoot with any camera. And identifying the camera from these pictures is a hopeless occupation. And now, in all honesty, tell me, would you determine yourself, being in our place? ... No , of course. In consolation for you, no one would define….
where is it weak? Is this junior school?
the face is plastered with something, what kind of skinton to talk about?
war paint - what to compare it with?
You can compare when you know, although at least approximately what color MUST be in reality.
I don’t know what kind of orange there would be in reality, and how they plastered her face.
totally agree with Anonymous
“Arkady, the question was asked incorrect and, I apologize, stupid. It’s shitty to shoot with any camera. And identifying the camera by these pictures is a futile exercise. And now, in all honesty, tell me, would you yourself determine, being in our place? ... No, of course. No one would have defined it as a consolation for you. ”
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I did a lot of tests with the D800e and the Mark 3. in many cases there is NO color difference - if the shooting conditions level out the color difference. it's strange that you don't know this)
In fact, Arkady is right. And the question about a specific camera or system is asked correctly - to show the inconsistency of the statements. Of course, if there were laboratory photos from the given systems, almost everyone would have guessed by the characteristics of the manufacturer or the camera. But such comparisons have no practical meaning. Therefore, in the case of these real snapshots, when there is nothing to compare with, such a discussion arose. If the question were really in the skintone / camera manufacturer's plane, the answer would not be difficult.
PS: Once, I came across a survey article - where it was necessary to rank six submitted photos (stupidly a piece of greenery and a little sky), taken on different devices (phone, soap dish and serious cameras), well, at the end, find out which picture for what was made and see the statistics of responses. I asked my colleagues to tell them which picture they like best and which, in their opinion, the most natural colors. Of the four, three answered both questions almost immediately, the fourth avoided answering, citing the need for a calibrated monitor, enlarging images, shooting parameters, etc. Guess which of them thinks he is a photographer.
definitely a marriage. Lina drew light, color and skinton, in general took a photo. And the original option is only in the basket!
Those. I'm right. An interesting way for you, Arkady, to admit someone is right
The reason is that I have all these devices and I constantly use them.
At 40 and 200 to get this, I insist, the earth is virtually impossible to immediately dismiss them. And you agreed with that
Filmed on Nikon d3100 and 50 1.8zh
The reason is that I have all these devices and I constantly use them.
At 40 and 200 to get this, I insist, the earth is virtually impossible to immediately dismiss them. And you agreed with that
D90 gives a specific default shade so that the picture changes, the person would have to really strain their head. From the photograph, you can see that the person was not worried about light and color - this is not a D90. I believe that the picture was taken either in portrait mode or in P mode at best. I tried a lot with the D700, so if the makeup artist didn't do makeup of such a strangely disgusting color (which in this case would say that it was filmed on the machine) it is very difficult to pervert to such a color. And I just really like the D300 and I believe that no one would abuse such a device so valuable, its long life in the classroom is a guarantee
I do not pretend to be a holivarschik, because I agree more with Sergey that the main issue of color rendering is the auto-BB algorithm. But I'll try to guess))) 1 Canon photo, 2 and 3 Nikon. The explanation is in the work of AutoBB. At Canon, the BB is shifted closer to warm tones, and at Nikon, on the contrary.
As for me, the picture looks more like Nikonovskaya, the camera was up to 2012 (somewhere since 2013, the color rendition of new cameras has changed a little, I think). Nikon likes to default to magenta, especially the first photo is very similar to the D90 color rendition with a slight underexposure. IMHO, Canon (40d, 60d held in hands, saw many pictures from these cameras) gives more yellow (or yellow-green) tones “on average”.
Strange, I purple, on the contrary, I noticed green faces on Nikon behind my Canon
I'm not a big fan of such treatments, but sometimes it's even very necessary. I still can't do that myself. But who criticizes very much and “put your hands on your balls” say: did anyone want to be able to do this?
I wanted and knew how to do it ... but shit ... ..
throw off a couple of works to see ...
What kind of action for the correct skin is discussed in the article?
I am a keen amateur and sometimes (once a year I print one or two portraits of friends / relatives), I print, usually 30x45, it is natural that the frame is selected according to its content + the best technical quality, but processing is always required. I don’t like glamor, I have to process the skin, but I always try to leave some kind of mole, a small scar. In my opinion, it looks more natural, it takes an hour or more to take a picture.
Well, and the third time, Alex! Ugh on you!
I think that this is neither Nikon nor Canon. It is some kind of Olympus or Panasonic.
I think it's still some kind of kenon, 5d mark 3 for example, mark 2 itself gives something similar in the studio. I don’t understand what the bazaar was being built here - on the left, there are ordinary unfinished photos from an ordinary studio with an ordinary boxing “head-on”. 99% of those reading this comment have never filmed in the studio and do not understand what to shoot there. Retouching as retouching is not super class, but just right for the client + Lina's prices are 100 times lower than Stelmakh's prices
"Retouching as retouching is not super class, but just right for the client + Lina's prices are 100 times lower than Stelmakh's prices."
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that is, Lina takes $ 2-3 for a shot for processing? ))))))))))
then it is clear why such a result))))
"Mark 2 itself gives something similar in the studio." Yeah. Well, it's good that you are in the 1%, which "shoots in the studio and generally understands what to shoot there." Is it really true that you and the Mark 2 are are you filming?)
Mark 2 takes pictures as the photographer takes!
An acquaintance crap me all over the wedding on M2
everything is purple, here's your skin ...
It's not about the camera obviously. Maybe in a monitor with flowers or in tone correction (this can also be set in the carcass by hands, it would seem).
Better who has experience with retouching. Show your examples
Yes, no pink-blue haze can give an old boot type 600D or 650.
about the photo Pts I suspect that this is a fragment from a full-bodied picture, and then it would have looked appropriate.
do not forget that this is a portrait of a girl, they like it so much, everything is for clients ...
… Since we are talking about “skinton” (I don’t like this word. And it hardly happens: grass, sky, clothes got into “skinton”, but the face did not).
For a good "color" of the frame you need:
1. Trained eyes.
2. A good monitor, preferably calibrated.
3. RAW file.
4. Developer (I prefer Capture One).
5. Patience.
I guess any RAW file can be rotated to a nice, nice, “correct” subjective color! Well, except for those where motley lighting is everywhere ...
And again I will attach this picture. RAWs are not mine - the link came across in the comments on Radozhiv. I aligned the frames by exposure. The color temperature settings are the same. The color perception of cameras is different, but any of the frames can be adjusted to the desired one.
The development shows that Nikon goes to the cold part of the spectrum, and Canon to the warm. But then again, there are a bunch of factors. For example glass.
here 85 are top. These are old boyish comparisons. One question torments - is the jacket gray or with a purple bryo? in the frame with such comparisons, you need to leave something unambiguous in color. Best of all is a colorchecker. Or at least a gray card. And so both complexions are legitimate, choose which one you like. But which is more truthful is an open question.
Stelmakh now lives in Moldova and retrained as an “experienced retoucher”. Now he competes with Lina, and not Nikon compares with Canon. Fucking comparator.
Phahahaha! rightly so!
The debate about the right skin tone is pointless. I am personally tolerant of any skin tone. And the fact that the processed photo is an example of processing. Removed excessive shine of the skin, increased contrast, etc. There is a niche of usability users and earn money.