On June 09, 2021 the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 8-25mm 1: 4 PRO [MSC, ED] lens was announced.
Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 8-25mm 1: 4 PRO
Basic properties
- For Olympus Mirrorless Cameras Micro 4/3
- Relative Hole: 1: 4-1: 22
- Focal length: 8-25 mm (EGF 16-50mm)
- MDF: 0.23 meters
- Maximum magnification ratios 1: 14.3 at 8mm and 1: 4.8 at 25mm
- Optical design: 16 elements in 10 groups, includes 1 DSA (Dual Super Aspherical), 2 Aspherical ED, 1 Super ED, 1 ED, 1 Super HR, 1 HR, 1 UD (why there is no marking in the lens name 'ED' as at 9-18mm 1:4-5.6 ED?)
- Enlightenment ZERO coating (Zuiko Extra-low Reflection Optical)
- MSC autofocus, Focus Clutch. At the same time, there is no 'MSC' mark on the body, for example, as in 12mm 1: 2 ED MSC
- Diaphragm: 7 rounded petals
- Filter Diameter: 72 mm
- Professional Series Lens
- Protected case, protective coating of the front lens, the ability to work from minus 10 degrees Celsius, metal case
- L-Fn button
- Weight: 411 gram
- Price: about 1100 dollars. All prices for modern Olympus lenses are available see here.
Appearance
All OLYMPUS / OM SYSTEM M.ZUIKO DIGITAL lenses for Micro 4/3
- 8mm 1: 1.8 FISHEYE PRO
- 9mm 1: 8 FISHEYE
- 12mm 1: 2 ED MSC
- 15mm 1: 8
- 17mm 1: 1.2 PRO
- 17mm 1: 1.8 MSC
- 17mm 1: 2.8
- 20mm 1: 1.4 PRO OM SYSTEM
- 25mm 1: 1.2 PRO
- 25mm 1: 1.8 MSC
- 30mm 1: 3.5 ED MSC MACRO 1.25X
- 45mm 1: 1.2 PRO
- 45mm 1: 1.8 MSC
- 60mm 1: 2.8 ED MSC MACRO
- 75mm 1: 1.8 ED MSC
- 90mm 1:3.5 MACRO IS PRO OM SYSTEM
- 300mm 1: 4 IS PRO
- 7-14mm 1: 2.8 PRO
- 8-25mm 1: 4 PRO
- 9-18mm 1:4-5.6 ED MSC
- 9-18mm 1:4-5.6 ED II MSC
- 12-40mm 1: 2.8 PRO
- 12-45mm 1: 4 PRO
- 12-50mm 1: 3.5-6.3 EZ ED MSC MACRO
- 12-100mm 1: 4 IS PRO
- 12-200mm 1:3.5-6.3 ED MSC
- 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 ED
- 14-42mm 1: 3.5-5.6 L ED
- 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 MSC II
- 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 R MSC II
- 14-42mm 1: 3.5-5.6 EZ ED MSC
- 14-150mm 1:4-5.6 ED
- 14-150mm 1:4-5.6 ED MSC II
- 40-150mm 1: 2.8 PRO
- 40-150mm 1: 4 PRO
- 40-150mm 1:4-5.6 ED MSC
- 40-150mm 1: 4-5.6 R ED MSC
- 75-300mm 1:4.8-6.7 ED MSC
- 75-300mm 1:4.8-6.7 ED MSC II
- 100-400mm 1:5-6.3 IS ED MSC
- 150-400mm 1: 4.5 TC 1.25X ED IS PRO
- 150-600mm 1:5-6.3 IS ED MSC
Decoding of the main markings of OLYMPUS lenses M.ZUIKO DIGITAL for Micro 4/3:
- PRO - professional lens
- SPLASH PROOF - a protected lens (so are marked, for example, all 'PRO'-lenses)
- OM SYSTEM is the trademark under which some Olympus lenses have been produced since the end of 2021
- ED (Extra-low Dispersion) - low dispersion elements in the optical circuit
- MSC (Movie & Still Compatible) - a special focusing system for comfortable video and photography
- EZ (Electronic Zoom) - electronic zoom
- IS (Image Stabilizer) - built-in image stabilizer
- MACRO - macro lens
- Fisheye - ultra wide angle fisheye lens
- R (?) - lens with an updated design
- II - second version of the lens
- TC - built-in teleconverter
- 9mm 1:8 FISHEYE and 15mm 1:8 (MF) lenses do not have auto focus
All Olympus Micro 4/3 cameras
Olympus Pen EP Series:
Olympus OM-D EM Series:
- M1X
- M1, M1 Mark II, M1 Mark III, M1 Mark III Astro
- M5, M5 MARK II, M5 MARK III
- M10, M10 Mark II, M10 Mark III, M10 Mark IV
OM SYSTEM line:
Materials on the topic
- Full frame mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- Digital SLR systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- JVI or EVI (an important article that answers the question 'DSLR or mirrorless')
- About mirrorless batteries
- Simple and clear medium format
- High-speed solutions from Chinese brands
- All fastest autofocus zoom lenses
- All fastest AF prime lenses
- Mirrored full frame on mirrorless medium format
- Autofocus Speed Boosters
- One lens to rule the world
- The impact of smartphones on the photography market
- What's next (smartphone supremacy)?
- All announcements and novelties of lenses and cameras
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Material prepared Arkady Shapoval.
Where are all these people who shouted “Olympus everything! 11” :-)
saving up money for a new Olympus Pen E-P7
Quote: “The Olympus E-P7 camera was developed by the previous owners of the Olympus brand. However, this is the first camera to be released by OM Digital Solutions. ”
The Olympus E-P7 camera will be sold at a retail price of 799 euros (70 thousand rubles at the current exchange rate).
€ 800 for a camera for Asian housewives with a minimum ISO 200 and 12 bit ras and a matrix the size of a woman's marigold.
God help you!
I am subscribed to many channels on youtube and 500 people on flickr. For the second year now, I have noticed an outflow from the micro, both in video and in a photo to the new FF BZK Panasonic / Canon / Nikon / Sony.
Puchkovsky and Vanifatyev nervously smoke on the sidelines, terribly complexing about the "matrix with a woman's marigold", yes. Where are they)))
Do not care, even though Belomor let them drag on.
A Puchkov artist, he “doesn't care” what to shoot, knows and understands the fundamental principles of light, form, and then these photographs are artistically processed by him, as a rule, and companies usually “work” with such people, offer to promote their brand, openly or secretly make them ambassadors, not because of a good life, the photographer picks up a camera for housewives and pensioners.
Vanifatiev is a wedding man, who, in general, doesn't really care what to shoot, he gained experience and skills, a good craftsman, bombed in a good sense of the word, the camera is secondary for these people, the main thing is that there is some reason to prefer; ambassadorship was offered for example. Go to any of them with an interesting proposal, they will go to your "bucket" and will achieve the same level that they are capable of.
Well, that's what we are talking about. People work and get a good result on any camera, “investing” in knowledge and skills, and not hoping that “the next camera certainly has a masterpiece button, because serious people also write on the photo_ru” :-) About half of the active of visitors to the above site ksatti thinks so in all seriousness)))
“Investing” in knowledge and skills, and not hoping that “the next camera certainly has a masterpiece button, because serious people also write on the photo_ru” :-) Approximately half of the active visitors of the above-mentioned site ksatti thinks so in all seriousness)) ) "
Alas, this is a lie. You came up with something and probably believed it yourself, and now you are relaying it to us. Victor, will you add your profile to the photo_ru or flickr or 500px?
Judging by the comments on Radozhiv, the Magnum agency is no longer worthy of you. Your boundless experience, skill and erudition piercing the depths of space are at a level unattainable for mere mortals.
I dream of learning from you the skill of photography, but the trouble is that I cannot enjoy your imperishable work.
Maybe you will write a couple of articles for mere mortals, here on Radozhiv?
Will you come down to us? Please do me a favor, I will be very grateful. And the entire site foto_ru will come here to bow and read Victor's articles. I'm sure there will be a syllable worthy of poets of the golden age and photography like Russian artists like Levitan.
And photographs on a scale like the canvases of Russian artists. I am sorry I put it wrong.
And yet, Dima, judging by this “don’t care, even if Belomor is dragging on”, it’s just your level should be clearly higher than that of the aforementioned masters of photography, and the leading manufacturing companies vying with each other to line up to you, throwing one more profitable than another))
But…))
Victor, and I thought it was for you engineers Sonya, Fuji, Canon and Nikon are vying with each other to line up for your invaluable advice.
Probably yes.
But for some reason you do not admit it. We will wait for your retirement memoirs.
Did you touch it for a living?)) Nothing, you have to go through, it's not my fault that you chose the first half of the site as a role model))
And such a moment.
Victor, I don't know these people.
They are not interesting to me and I will explain why.
1) I don’t watch ads in principle. Nowhere. Never.
I understand roughly what the ambassadors are doing. I’m just not interested in these names and surnames that people like to trump cards with, hoping to cover up their emptiness and hide behind the very name of some famous person to create authority for themselves. Well, it's like in the TV series Gangster Petersburg to hide behind “Antibiotic” or acquaintance with it. But one day you will have to answer for this ... Whoever does not understand will understand.
2) I have no authority. It was never. And when I was asked at school the question, Do I want or do I be like Yura Gagarin, I answered no.
There are people whose opinion is valuable or interesting to me. No more.
3) On the Radozhiv website, where people who are keen on photography and sharing their experiences sit, there are (or remain) several types of characters:
Creators (writing articles or notes for the site), Photographers with experience, beginners and repairmen come in, there are just people who are interested in photography, and there are erudite theorists.
I'm just interested in photography. I have written several times, I do not consider myself a photographer, I am a collector (well, a seller, to be honest), perhaps an amateur who sometimes brings income from photography. That's all. But with erudites - a special demand.
"Did you touch it for a living?)) Nothing, you have to go through, it's not my fault that you chose the first half of the site as a role model))"
Generally by. Everything and entirely. Once again, in Russian: I have no authorities.
I have no role models.
I try to explain, and explained, but someone on their own and with a bunch of parentheses, like schoolchildren.
“On which people who are keen on photography sit” - no. People are sitting here, passionate only about technology. And photographers come exactly for this - to consult on technical issues. Characteristics of cameras and lenses, problems and methods of their solution, repair. Topics concerning even the technical side of PHOTOGRAPHY itself practically do not find a response.
"I have no authority." "There are people whose opinion is valuable or interesting to me." Dima, open the explanatory dictionary and read the meaning of the word "authority" there, I think even schoolchildren know who he is.
Roman, that's right. In general, I noticed that only a few speak about photography on Russian-language resources, most are interested in technology. Generally, people believe that technique is the answer. Earlier, when I tried to shoot sports, people sometimes asked “what was it done for, and how much does the camera cost”?
When they found out, they were surprised))
“Dima, open the explanatory dictionary and read the meaning of the word“ authority ”there, I think even schoolchildren know who he is.”
I do not have an explanatory dictionary, so I used Wikipedia:
“Authority (German Autorität, from Latin auctoritas -“ power, influence ”):
in a general sense: generally recognized value, influence, power;
narrowly - the influence of a person, based on his position, position, status, and so on. An influence that encourages respect for a person based on his outstanding and recognized wisdom, knowledge, moral merit, life experience. "
But here again it is not my option, so it’s you Victor should read the dictionary more often.
If I listen to someone's opinion, this does not mean at all that I will listen to him next time or that this person has outstanding knowledge or wisdom)
Dima, I mean that you really have a hard time understanding the obvious.
Excerpt from your favorite Wikipedia:
“Authority lies in the recognition of the subject (bearer) of outstanding achievements, knowledge, abilities, skills, abilities, his special position in society, their significance for humanity, for a particular object, sphere of social life, science, and based on this non-violent influence its carrier to one or another object, which determines a certain historically changing form of subordination of people's actions and thoughts to the provisions and norms arising from the subject's attitudes "
If you do not find a correlation between this definition and your “There are people whose opinion is valuable or interesting to me,” my condolences to you, as they say)
And further. Since you have to constantly explain the obvious, if “this does not mean at all that I will listen to him next time” ©, then someone is no longer an authority for you, as you can see, everything is elementary.
Do not hesitate to contact us again, if something is not available for understanding, I am always ready to help))
“If you do not find a correlation between this definition and your“ There are people whose opinion is valuable or interesting to me, ”my condolences to you, as they say)”
Victor, I can't find it. There are different situations. It may be valuable or interesting at the moment, simply because the opinion is unusual, but this does not mean at all that I consider this person an authority or an expert :)
"Do not hesitate to contact us if something is not available for understanding, I am always ready to help))"
I am waiting for your invaluable works and an article on photography, explaining (for the market) that there are half mediocrities in the photo_ru compared to you.
Dima, some childish resentment speaks in you now, exhale and have some tea. If you do not manage to calm down, you know perfectly well how it will all end.
As for my level, I never said that I shoot masterpieces, ordinary amateur photos at medium temperature in a hospital with budget amateur equipment corresponding to the + - level of photos, well, as it seems to me. Unlike some collectors))) This, in fact, was the main claim.
As for the "authority", you are now spinning, that in the frying pan, although the general behavior is already clear - they began to understand that they were talking nonsense)))
“As for the“ authority ”, you are now spinning, that in the frying pan, although the general behavior is already clear - they began to understand that they were talking nonsense)))”
Nope, I'm still sure that I wrote everything correctly, as I think. Life is a multifaceted thing.
"If you fail to calm down, you know perfectly well how it will all end."
This is a threat? :-)
What, for example? Will you run at me to complain like the last time? :-)
"Unlike some collectors))) This, in fact, was the main claim."
Did you not notice for an hour that everyone owes you something? For example, the author of the review on d810 also had something to do, judging by your remark.
I don't understand you Victor.
“I have never said that I shoot masterpieces, ordinary amateur photos, medium-temperature in the hospital, using budget amateur equipment corresponding to the + - level of photos”
Then live in a high, you have to rejoice in what you have.
"Nope, I am still sure that I wrote everything correctly, as I think."
Your business, some are still sure that the Earth is on three whales))
"This is a threat? :-) "
Shtovy, shtovy)) just a reminder to a person with a short memory))) Not so long ago, crying because of these consequences on the pages of Radozhiva, by the way))
“You didn’t notice for an hour that everyone owes you something”
Me?)) Should?))) Are you not dancing for several days in a row, trying (with an understandable purpose) to beg for a link to the photos, implying that I SHOULD provide it to you immediately?))
Then live in a high, you have to rejoice in what you have ”
Dmitry, you won't believe ..)))
"Shtovy, shtovy)) just a reminder to a person with a short memory))) Not so long ago crying because of these consequences on the pages of Radozhiva, by the way))"
Victor, I remember very well that you were never banned or banned, but for a suspiciously short time. And yes, you complained, which is already there.
While I was forced to write for a month and a half with pre-moderation, which gives rise to certain suspicions.
“Me?)) Should?))) Are you not dancing for several days in a row, trying (with a clear purpose) to beg for a link to the photos, implying that I MUST provide it to you immediately?))”
Okay, I'll try to remember this and remind you on occasion.
Alas, this is true. Those interested can go to the address and make sure WHAT is most often discussed there and in what way. And what is fasting as samples.
ps "About half" "all"
p.p. I thought that the Pokemon would bomb))) Well, what can I do ...
"" About half "_not equal to_" all "", the site did not miss special characters, apparently, it counted for html-code.
Victor, the weather outside is fine now.
You can go take pictures of cats, flowers, girls, landscapes.
Ordinary normal people on barbecue or on vacation or just on vacation.
Sick people - in Kommunarka on a ventilator or in other institutions.
And only Victor scribbles angry comments, sitting on his favorite couch.
What for? What is all this for?
People sit on the forum and just post their pictures (bad / difficult) - it doesn't matter, they share their experience.
Well, it's true. I love portraits of Alexandra Bochkareva. She uses Sony Alpha7 III and a certain number of manual lenses (it seems from Helios 77 to Zenitar, which is 1.2). Before that, there was some nondescript Nikon or Canon. Her works are interesting models, entourage and processing.
There is also Julia Wimmerlin, lives in Switzerland, shoots only on Canon. She shoots professionally and a lot, she has access to any new Canon products (I don't know my own or rented). Here are the last episodes shot on R5 / 24-105. It looks like a good driver who loves new cars. But the primary thing here is the ability to drive. There is no moaning about dynamic range, aberrations, covers or not. She needs to shoot the savannah - she takes the mark 4, 100-400L, SAVANNA, shoots. Interior - Mark 4, TS-17 / 4L, INTERIOR, shoots. Model - 24-105, MODEL, please. Bochkareva has all sorts of exotic models, leaves, lynxes, owls, a forest - and those lenses with which she is comfortable, her portrait is primary. Wimmerlin is more versatile, so lenses suitable for the plot + the ability to use something new. Not for the sake of characteristics, it just wants to.
And there are prominent acquaintances of the representatives of photographic societies. Which influence the optical industry of the whole country, adjust the scales and dominate in every possible way. And where, in fact, is the result, what is it all for? People with an engineering mindset turn the craft into esotericism, completely leveling the skill. They worship technology without being able to explain why. How exactly these meters on the scale or tenths of DD allowed them to shoot these masterpieces, which would otherwise have been impossible.
And the result - here is my closet with icons and books, appreciate the sharpness in the right corner, where the collected works of Lenin. Or the correct transmission of the color of the LED on the TV.
Vooot, it’s immediately obvious that Roman understood what I’m talking about.
And Dima turned on the offense and scribbles comment after comment))) Dima, today I am at work, and yesterday I had a great time in nature far from the city, having made several amateur photographs as a keepsake. No need to worry about me, and you can already exhale))
Share your masterpieces with the masses or is everything as usual?)
Dima, you are extremely dull, we have already raised this issue, I don’t even know how to convey it to you. My cards will in no way change YOUR level and attitude towards photography in general and authorities in this area in particular. You enjoy buying / selling / collecting gear, keep doing it.
“Dima, you are extremely dull, we have already raised this issue, I don’t even know how to convey it to you.”
Victor, how would it be more accessible to you to explain it.
OK. You often write mocking / caustic comments on the posts of people here on Radozhiv (besides me), but at the same time when asked to demonstrate your skill on the site, proving the level of "erudition" not in words, but in deed, you abruptly go into mud, which is unacceptable if You think you have some level at all.
On the same photo_ru, people who are "erudites" and begin to "treat" everyone, too, climb out, but when they are pinned down and they are asked to explain their level of boltology, they also blow off and merge and disappear.
Here you have already written that there is no need to be a cook, but for that you can understand the tastes of food. Your cards will change my attitude towards you.
So far, this attitude is like another chatterbox from the Internet, who can talk for hours about what they never had and never will.
Dima, one more time. Your attitude to me, to Uncle Vasya from the next doorway, and even to the same Puchkovsky, to anyone in the world - will not change absolutely nothing for your level within the framework of the subject under discussion.
I sincerely wish you to reconsider your attitude to photography, otherwise you will still be marking time, just buying and selling photographic equipment copy after copy.
Was Levitan Russian? Suddenly, yes. Here you have the ability to ascribe to yourself the merits of others.
You are not kidding about Asian housewives - there are hundreds of millions of them, and among them there are a huge number of women with wealth, especially in China. If the company aims at them, and if they manage to interest them (as for me, for this they have to build some ready-made presets for image and video processing into the camera), then they will get an excellent economic effect. But we will see this later. So far, some camera review sites have already “declared” this particular new Olympus “the most beautiful camera in the world”, they also started a similar company in China, and added a slogan like “do you want to get better photos and videos than your smartphone gives?” It is not surprising that every company in the market is trying to survive and promote its products. What's wrong with this lens? Why have other brands not offered anything of the kind before, and even in such a beautiful and reliable design, there is still a distance scale on it. And yet - I personally do not have Olympuses, but their last matrices work freely up to ISO1600, and this is actually enough for many jobs, especially for housewives. Do housewives in other countries have full-frame cameras around their necks? I can even guess where the price of this camera was determined from - $ 700 is a little less than 5000 yuan, and this in China (this is the most attractive market in Asia) is not money at all, 90% of those who want (if you make them interested!) Will not even buy it pondering. This camera does not have 14 bit rabbits, it is for target buyers and is useless, I assume that it will have excellent jpeg directly from the camera, which was top-quality in the old Olympus, and it will shoot good video easily and without much knowledge.
Uv. koba, you are probably familiar with concepts such as "kitchen policy" and "small complex"?
As for the lens, I'm sure everything will be fine with it, the micra has such a feeling that there are no frankly bad optics at all, there is nothing to say about the pro-series.
“Do housewives in other countries have full-frame cameras around their necks?”
Koba, I have been to Japan 6 times and there Micras are really common, especially among women.
Young people - mostly taking pictures on their phones. I saw this in the cherry blossom season and momiji (autumn maples). I noticed a tendency that every year the number of cameras became smaller, and iPhones (in Japan this is the most common smartphone that local Sharp and Fujitsu ate) more.
In the Russian Federation and Belarus, Panasonic and Olympus cameras are generally not visible on people. I saw Olympus last time at a retrofest with one of the owners of a Mercedes R107, this was an OM-D model and he did not shoot with it - the camera was like for the atmosphere. The beautiful half of humanity in the Russian Federation has mainly Canon crops, but Nikon also comes across. Those who are trying to make money from photography - full-frame Canon, also meet Nikon. UPC is still a rarity.
By the way, I was in Sapporo during the snow festival (Yuki Matsuri) and there were many Chinese (the festival roughly coincides with the Chinese New Year in terms of dates). And the Chinese had mostly a full frame on their necks (for some reason, Canon is very popular), and the phones were almost all iPhones, and not Chinese brands such as Xiaomi, Huawei or others (this is amazing). I distinguish the speech of the Chinese from the Korean and the Japanese.
but tell me, the Chinese were always spitting on the floor there too? It annoyed me so much in St. Petersburg when I was with my wife from the Hermitage. there is a crowd of Chinese, shouting something between themselves and spitting on the floor. since I do not know Chinese, I tried to reason with them in English, but they did not understand or pretended not to understand.
No, but they behaved worse than on the Old Arbat. In Japan, they behave like at home, push, get into the place that you want to be in the frame.
They can push the arm or touch the arm with the camera when you are photographing.
They have some kind of selfie disease - every 2-3rd has a stick with the latest iPhone. It so happens that one starts taking pictures, then shouts at someone and another 5-6 people will come running.
And you have to wait for them when they are knocked down. But their place can immediately come running as many more. Sometimes you stand, caught a good angle and maybe a Chinese man will sit on the side, who will either put his young lady in front of him, or will start to touch your elbow with his elbow. Gloom, in short. I almost smashed the D700's face on one.
understand. I would also teach them a lesson, something heavy, but the trouble is that the numerical advantage is always on their side. As a bae we ussem soon did not have to learn Chinese.
you are probably aware that they have a map of China, on which the territory of Russian Siberia is designated as "the temporarily lost territory of China"
That's exactly what I wrote about. How much does a company need to sell a particular model for it to be economically viable to produce it? Judging by the statistics (rough, of course), then somewhere from 20000, if 50000 is already normal. Nikon sold the most D700, and its circulation was more than half a million pieces, for example. So in Japan itself, the target audience is 10 million people, and in other Asian countries, even more. Looking at the exterior of this camera, doesn't it look like a piece of jewelry made of silver? So women will like it. The viewfinder of such an audience is not needed, everyone has long been accustomed to mobile phones, the main thing is that he shoots videos smoothly. The Asian market is significantly different from the rest, there is a huge number of people with wealth. Another point - almost everyone works here, has a steady income, and even people with a small income can buy goods with a two-year installment plan, especially in China, where bank interest rates are the lowest in the world. I myself often use it ... That is, it remains to create targeted products, which is what companies, and not only Olympus, do. Personally, I think that Olympus made a mistake in the production of cameras in the professional segment, and such cameras are just for nicknames.
"What's wrong with this lens?"
I have no complaints about the lenses on the mic. I can't say anything, tk. I have not used them. I didn't have a micra, no, and won't.
reminded
“- Tell me, Stirlitz, how do you feel about women?
- I do not belong to them"
I have a Fujinon zoom lens on my old camcorder, and then with aperture of 1.7, but that's not all ...
On the old camcorder, the matrix is probably not 4/3, right?)
And the resolution is different.
right, right, this is sony betacam sp, the best reportage camera (camera family) in the world.
I just posted a selection with Nikon D40 + Tamron 70-210 / 2.8, Sigma 28-70 / 2.8, Sigma 50-150 / 2.8 (removed the other day), stop all these pointless arguments and look forward on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/radojuva/permalink/1644418152614372 or VK https://vk.com/radojuva?w=wall-36627236_9964
VK, seriously?
Yeah why not?
VK presses jpg - there is an automatic compression of jeepgs (not strong, but there is one and it is easy to be convinced of this).
This is uncritical, but unpleasant.
yes, and Instagram photo jackalit, it became scary to live :)
For non-believers there is also my 500pix, watch and shoot at d40! https://500px.com/p/ArkadiiShapoval/galleries/nikon-d40
“VK presses” presses, then of course he presses, but I bet such “veka presses jeepg, veka mazday” hell-and-two guess where the jeep is from VK, and where with 100% compression in a blind test)))
Yes, and of course it's better not to look at the "jeep presses", but in the photo))
According to my observations, strong artifacts appear on average for 1 photo out of 100. I don't really care about it, it's easier to redo and repost than to be afraid or afraid or reproach or even whine about it. But everyone has their own approach. Someone can only look at RAW 16 bit without compression with ravotherapy at 400% magnification before debayering. Such people can also be understood.
I do not argue that someone consciously chooses similar wires for powering audio equipment, and they can also be understood :-)
https://m.audiomania.ru/mains_cable/nordost/nordost_tyr_2_power_cord.html
Dim, well, you seem to be a literate person. VK does not press anything if you properly prepare and upload a photo. In total, I uploaded more than 10000 frames to VK, there were no problems and no.
Alexei, and how is it “right”? Share.
I am aware of the fact that it resizes any images with some loss of quality if the size exceeds 2560p on the long side (if the image is not loaded as a document). But even if the picture is smaller, VK still crushes it with a slightly larger compression of the jeep, although this is already barely noticeable.
you need to resize in advance to 2560 by 2160 (that is, for horizontal photos with a length of 2560, and for vertical photos with a length of 2160), and add sharpness, and drag the photos only from the computer, and not by selecting them from the list when you open the Open window ...
formally, VK compresses the photo anyway, but not in the way that many think - with the correct size and download method, VK slightly changes the JPEG compression ratios to reduce the volume of files on the servers. in theory, but not in practice, this can lead to a pasteurization / gradient on the palate or skin.
And, of course, you can see the full quality of the (loaded) frame only when you open the original at 100%, because it is impossible to get at least some quality when rendering a JPEG by the browser in the window, even theoretically.
"And swirl only from the computer, drag the photos, and not by selecting them from the list when you open the Open window ..."
I heard something like this from my brother, 6 or 7 years ago (when there was still an old design and VC squeezed up to 1280), but I forgot about it. Honestly, I thought that there was not much difference.
When filling PNG, it does not squeeze in any way (it seems), but converts to jpg. With what compression, I do not know.
JPG - the default compression is 95-96%, you can see this if you open the picture in full resolution.
Например вот: impg/lZMtayY5y0pjOJb_6-oVu6JkzxhCr2pDz1cRiA/6t7lt08UIso.jpg?size=2560×1440&quality=96
Here the quality is 96%. It seems not noticeable, but it happens that sometimes when resizing and compressing in quality in VC, then artifacts in the form of squares in the sky or moire may appear.
VK reduces the resolution to 2560x2160 somewhere. If before that, you yourself reduce the resolution in a third-party program to 2560, then, in principle, the rules. If the resolution was higher and uploaded to VK as it is, then there is a chance of a moire appearance.
the same reason why not Yandex. I think it's understandable.
it's good that there are alternatives, we are waiting for you on facebook or in Google
Andrey, of course, but there is also a VPN and an alternative Facebook, for that matter.
I understand where Arkady lives, but you can look at the statistics of site visits, who, where, and in what percentage))
After the emergence of machine translation of the site into English, USA has pulled up so well in the number of views. They love to stare at geliks and other old things.
What does VPN have to do with the fact that VK is a trash heap? It's not that access to VK and Yandex is closed in Ukraine. But the fact is that VK and Yandex are trash heaps.
Facebook, Twitter, even Instagram are good options.
Oneaaako. It would be curious to hear about the signs by which a convenient VC and even a harmless I-disk were ranked as "trash heaps", and the inhibited fb with a sweater, and, prastigosspadi, in100gram - to suitability :)
Although you can not say. Mirrors of the resource, as I understand, are available on all of the above, let everyone be wherever it is convenient for him.
Victor, I'll correct it a little. “... according to which a convenient FSB-shny VK and even a harmless same I-disk were ranked as“ trash heaps ... ”
Now everything is correct.
Perhaps you Viktor have not heard about criminal / administrative cases that were “discharged” based on data from VK (including personal correspondence).
Odnoklassniki has the same problem. But the largest number of criminal and administrative cases was opened on VK.
It is also not a secret to anyone that mail.ru/yandex.ru is open to intelligence officers (as well as internal correspondence, quick access to VK posts).
This is not paranoia. Curiosity.
FB / Twitter did not give their keys to the FSB, partly because of this there are claims to them from the security forces.
You, Dmitry, may not have read, but still read my post exactly under yours, from 15:56 today. Will remove many questions.
And yet, you need to turn on your head when you write something in VK, and everything will be fine. I think, in principle, neither Arkady nor the readers of his group in VK have anything to fear.
Victor, are you now seriously about “there is nothing to be afraid of”? Well, ok, good luck with VKontakte and Yandex.
Victor, did not notice your post from 15:56.
It's okay.
VK, although 100% is under the security forces at the present time, nevertheless, one of the most convenient social networks, more convenient than Facebook, for sure.
For uploading a photo of flowers, at least more than suitable.
There are also portraits, such, and also nothing. Let the officers join the beautiful and the high
Twitter 4000x4000, compression imperceptible.
The auditorium is bigger and there is no comrade major.
Then welsh and there https://twitter.com/radojuva, nobody forbids. This there is a selection there too.
Thank you!
Well, here the forty worked 120%, delete the exif and you can sign it as you like, they will still believe it)))
Not a drop of toadying, everything is as it is, to the point.
It is strange to read nonsense from people who do not even use this system according to the announcement of a new piece of glass. There is nothing clever to do or something.
And I was personally hooked on the glass, I'm thinking of taking it, I used to like a 10-25 watering can, but it’s too big and expensive.