March 12, 2021 was officially submitted lens Meyer Optik Görlitz Primoplan 58 f / 1.9 II.
Meyer Optik Görlitz Primoplan 58 f / 1.9 II
Basic properties
- For full-frame and cropped mirrorless cameras with Canon EF mount, Nikon F, M42, Pentax K, Sony E / FE, Fujifilm X, Leica L, Leica M, Micro 4/3
- Manual focus only
- Relative Hole: 1: 1.9-1: 22
- Focal Length: 58mm
- Closest focusing distance: 60 centimeters
- Optical design: 5 elements in 4 groups, based on the 1936 design
- Enlightenment: O'Hara Anti Reflex Coating
- Diaphragm: 12 rounded aperture blades
- Filter Diameter: 52 mm
- The emphasis is on high-quality assembly, high-quality color reproduction with high contrast and soft bokeh, and high-quality Shot glass
- Price: about 900 dollars
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O'Hara is a trademark of the winter expectation, I don't know anything
The görlitz's website says MDF = 0,5 m ...
their first modern version of Primoplan had 0.6 meters, from the picture you can see so far that this one has 0.6 meters, some other sites testify to this (example). Perhaps they have a mistake on the official website. Until I see 0.5 meters on the focusing ring, I will not correct it.
The Chinese are doing f / 0,95, and the Germans are f / 1,9, the world has gone crazy.
In this case, any Chinese 0.95 will be cheaper than this Primoplan (the most expensive is Mitakon 50 / 0.95, for Canon EF). Even if there is not T / 0.95 for the majority, the picture, I am sure, will be more interesting.
But which of them will be similar in the picture to this primoplan? .. well, very roughly - 7artisans 50 / 1.1. And in general, that's all!
There are so many reviews of old lenses, with common drawbacks: they turn yellow, do not hold back light.
If the updated version is devoid of these shortcomings, then why not.
And yet, he's new. No scratches, backlash, gluing delamination.
And the f / 0.95 lens fashion will pass, just like the trioplane fashion, or 8mm fisheye.
This is not a fashion, this is a more interesting picture for less money. I shoot at 80d and I really miss the inexpensive 35 / 1.2, roughly speaking, the conditional fifty-kopeck piece on the crop. And 7artisan releases its solutions under the BZK. As for the subject, the conditional burgher, confident that in 1986 the grass was greener, will certainly buy it. Trying to sell old eggs under a new label. KMZ sinned with this until 7artisan rolled their balls
... shuddered ... what is it, Oleg, your “more interesting picture”? Conditional, not amenable to physical measurement? What is sweeter - halva or honey?
This means more blur, more real aperture, less iso, something revolutionary compared to the cheap Kenon 50 / 1.8 it will not have
And if it does, it will not be 8 times, but the burghers nostalgic for the past will buy it. The Chinese already have faster solutions for a full frame and more inexpensive ones. An interesting picture is a subjective concept. Gelik has an interesting picture, he has twisted bokeh
I agree. My daughter can stick hearts on the front lens, it will also be an interesting picture. But when they ask me for money for a very mediocre lens in technical terms, I don't understand. Moreover, they did not roll out a picture of bokeh to the critics, and so, they say, we are a cool company, our picture will be interesting. Rave.
You, and those who know why he needs such a luminosity, and is ready to put up with the accompanying shortcomings, they need.
So on circular fish, and soft triplets, and primoplan, there are users.
And someone wants all the most-the-most:
-the fastest;
-most beautiful;
-the widest angle;
-the newest-modern.
And then it turns out that the picture is not sharp, the objects are curved, and the bokeh is not visible in most of the photos, and the viewer did not appreciate where it is. But the new phone was appreciated. Everything in it is simple, understandable, there are a lot of numbers, and they can be compared.
And what about the lens? 80 years have passed, and here all the same 28, 35, 50.
Here's something understandable, 0.95, that's power! Let's change all at once to mirrorless DSLRs, DSLRs are yesterday, 0.95 is expensive on them.
But what about weak batteries, slow loading, lag of the picture in EVI from reality? It doesn't matter! The main thing is that 0.95 is a lot, that is, not enough, that is, very fashionable and youthful :)
Yes it's true. Considering that all Primoplans, for some reason, have either mushroom or erased enlightenment, it was not a bad idea to re-release it.
or fashion for Primoplans
And them too.
In general, the whole short history of the revived Meyer Optic is such a small business based on feelings. At least take a crowdfunding fundraiser for the production of Trioplanes.
And the M42, too.
Better to give $ 50 for the Leica M 2.0 900.)
As for the price and cost, I learned the news today. That there is a $ 15000 drug for hepatitis C that completely cures this disease. And there is a copy without a license that costs $ 200 which is just as effective. That's all you need to know about the capitalist market. I am sure that this glass can be made for much less money. After all, the rights to the optical scheme have long been publicly available. And the most surprising is why the Chinese did not set up a conveyor of copies of inexpensive side-demonstrators.
Ofiget you compared, of course, with Sofusbovir. Those. Don't you care about the costs of the pharmaceutical company for R&D, clinic and certification? As a chemist, I express my fairy.
In addition to the "open source scheme", you also need trademark rights at least. Well, and optical glass - now the palettes of glass no longer include usually outdated varieties, they have been replaced with better, more technological ones, but with different parameters.
and then there is Zolgensma. googled the price.
And what has zolgensma to do with it? This is so far a unique medicine, the first of its kind and has no analogues. There are different types of therapy for hepatitis.
Of course I have. You can do it the old fashioned way. But what is it like to inject horse doses of IF alpha? Wow, what are the side effects) And the most important thing is that it costs about $ 1000 anyway.
All these conversations usually end on the first order, when they tell you - well, you will sit here at the wedding, eat and drink for free, and make photos for free, is it difficult for you? We really like to evaluate (and overestimate) our own work and not so much - someone else's.
To be honest, the FASHION for the production of a variety of manual glasses without electronic filling, at the prices of autofocus, citing the fact that they are METAL and, perhaps, inside them, lenses made of real glass, without getting too much steamy, are already starting to stir up. And the fact that over time the Chinese with their price tags will strangle such offices as Voigtländer and the like, I won’t be surprised even if Zeiss thinks hard, it’s not to go to a fortune teller ...
If we are talking about Chinese high-aperture lenses, then the question is: did someone personally test some kind of mitacon 0,95 or artisan 1,1? Il 50, il 85. In general, the high-aperture Nikon z with its native bayonet is interested, but the native Nikon's near-XNUMX% super-high-aperture has just a hellish price tag.
I have Artisan 50 1.1, in the foreseeable future there will be a review. In short - good glass, when compared with Jupiter-3))) Zenitar 50 / 1.2 is sharper in general, the same in terms of light transmission, but ff does not cover.
This is the second attempt to revive old German brands like Trioplan, Biotar, Primoplan, Lydith, but at steep new prices.
The first one started on kickstarter with Biotar, but the shareholders were thrown, and no one returned the collected money.
The company went bankrupt, and the new owners refused to collect money from subscribers, but the price tag increased.
https://www.ixbt.com/news/2018/12/13/meyer-optik-g-246-rlitz.html
In my opinion, it would be better for them to start with Biotar 75mm / 1,5 and Trioplan 100mm / 2,8
(More interest and potential demand).
And then they started with Lydith 30mm / 3,5 and now Primoplan 58mm / 1,9
The trioplane is too messy in terms of image quality, let's be honest. Few people will be able to appreciate such a product.
And the attempt to revive Lydith was simply ridiculous. Who needs this extremely mediocre dark shirik for this price? Well, seriously - Pentacons 29 / 2.8 are a dime a dozen.
The KMZ with its Zenitar-Selena 58 mm / 1,9 with a retro picture and a kind of bokeh will now climb into the same niche.
In April, the exhibition should announce the start of sales.
But $ 900 its marketing will not pull in life.
The first (bankrupt) owners of this brand wanted a total of 1600 € for the updated lens in 2017.
https://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/meyer_optik_gorlitz_primoplan_58mm_f1_9_review
It seems like the same lens with the one in the announcement, but they look different.
The owners of the company have changed, and the version of this subject for rebranding and the price have changed.
May in the old days Primoplan, which at my own hour added for 200u.o. Poki vin me tsilkom vlashtovuє. But now I haven’t paid such pennies for a new one, but it’s not worth it. All the pass - mugs in the bokeh and zyomka of the nearest plans! Tse for an amateur, more not skin take bokeh to look like. Such mugs can be trimmed or copied for the price of Domiplan.
And for $ 900 I would buy it more decently, but it is possible, and not just one.
It is better to buy a bag of Helios and choose the best one, sell the rest in a year and get a glass on the ball, and for $ 990 you can buy Bajaj boxerX, which will take you and Helios far from home to shoot beautiful places for 20 years! :)