Navigation
- How did it start?
- History
- Evolution of ISOCELL Plus
- Tetracell
- Tetra HDR
- Other sensor properties
- ISOCELL Plus GW1 sensor on other phones
- 4 more cameras
- Image quality and sample photos
- My experience
- User Comments
- Add your review or question on the lens
How did it start?
Phone / smartphone / camera phone / game phone Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB belongs to my mother, who has been active lately maintains his blog on Instagram... She changed her old phone ZTE NUBIA M2 4/64 on new Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB due to the insufficient quality of the first images. The phone was purchased at Power outlet here here.
By the way, pictures from ZTE NUBIA M2 4/64 with the main sensor Sony IMX258 13 MP were in my note “What is filmed for".
With a general smartphone concept Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB you can read in this video:
Main camera Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB on 64 MP uses sensor SAMSUNG CMOS BSI Bright ISOCELL Plus GW1 (S5KGW1) with BSI, Tetracell, DCG and Tetra HDR technologies. It seemed to me very funny the presence of 64 MP in an inexpensive smartphone and I decided to figure out what and how it really is.
History
Samsung's ISOCELL Plus GW1 sensor was announced in May 2019. Already August 29 2019 an inexpensive smartphone was introduced Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 8... On September 13, 2019, another smartphone was announced using this sensor - it became Realme XT, but due to the fact that the official teasers from Realme XT earlier, it is believed that exactly Realme XT became the first camera phone with a 64 MP sensor. Anyway, Realme XT и Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 8 are pioneers with sensors above the psychological mark by 50 MP.
ISOCELL Plus
ISOCELL technology (Isolated single Cell - isolation of cells / pixels) was introduced in 2013 and is still developing. ISOCELL has undergone several major updates: BSI -> ISOCELL -> ISOCELL PLUS.
Tetracell
In short, thanks to Tetracell technology, information from four adjacent subpixels (photodiodes) of the same color can be combined (called 'binning'), which ultimately leads to an increase in the physical size of the subpixel, and this allows you to absorb more light and give less noise when shooting with poor lighting. With this combination, a 16 MP image is obtained (64/4 = 16).
The result is a very interesting situation: when there is a lot of light - you can get high details of the picture using the sensor in 64 MP mode, when there is little light - you can sacrifice the resolution, but reduce the noise level by combining the subpixels.
In addition, the four subpixels, arranged in a 2 X 2 square, are covered with a single color bayer filter, which simplifies the production of such a sensor. For 64 MP, only 16 million color filters are needed.
When a sensor based on Tetracell technology operates in binning mode, it does not fundamentally differ from Bayer RGB by its mosaic pattern. It's just that 4 subpixels of the same color become one big one, but the 'large merged subpixels' pattern itself is completely analogous to the classic Bayer RGB pattern.
When a sensor based on Tetracell technology works in the usual mode (without combining), then you have to make a specialized demosaicing algorithm. In classic RGB, each blue and red pixel is adjacent to four green pixels. In TetraCell, each blue and red sub-pixel is adjacent to two green and two pixels of its own color. In general, classic RGB should produce a better color quality than TetraCell. Specific demosaic for restoring the color of the final image is a disadvantage of TetraCell technology.
Tetracell technology is similar to Sony's Quad Bayer.
Later on, Tetracell technology was supplemented with a similar technology. Nonacell (which can be found on phones Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra).
Tetra HDR
Tetracell allows you to take HDR images in one pass. In HDR mode, the subpixels in the tetra-blocks operate at different times (at different shutter speeds), which allows you to create a braking effect and expand the dynamic range of the image. In this case, you do not need to take two pictures in a row and glue them together. But, unfortunately, when working in this mode, you can only get 16 MP images.
Physical dimensions of the sensor
Physical size of the main sensor 1 / 1.72 in.... The diagonal is 9.216 mm, width 7.6 mm, height 5.7 mm, which gives us crop factor Kf = 4.55... The sensor area is approximately 20 times smaller than the classic Full Frame 36 mm X 24 mm sensor. Pixel size 0,8 microns (one of the smallest pixel sizes for 2019-2020).
If the full-frame sensor of a modern full-frame camera is filled with pixels of the same size as the main module Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 8, then we would get at the output 1276 megapixel! It is easy to count: (36 * 24) / (7,6 * 5,7) * 64 = 1276 (MP).
The maximum image size is 9248 X 6936 pixels. Almost 10.000 pixels on the long side! Frame aspect ratio 4:3 (not the classic 3: 2 on many digital cameras).
Used optics with F / 1.89 и 5.43 mm focal length with a viewing angle of 79 degrees (diagonally). In terms of Full Frame, we get EGF equal to about 26 mm focal length.
Other properties of the sensor:
- to focus using phase sensors Super-PD (PDAF) + contrast focusing
- there is an opportunity to shoot 4K video with frame size 3840 X 2160 and 30 fps
- Full HD 60 fps
- it is possible to shoot slow motion HD video with a frequency 960 fps
- the burst speed of the main module for photo is maximum 21 fps
- sensor uses 10-bit ADC
- range ISO 100-3200
- Minimal excerpt is 1 / 16.000 seconds
- the average weight of 64 MP is 10-20 MB, the maximum size of the created JPEG file that I have seen was more than 30 MB
- no optical stabilization
ISOCELL Plus GW1 sensor on other phones:
The same 64 MP sensor is used in other models:
- Samsung: A71, A70s, A81
- LG V60 ThinQ
- Vivo NEX 3
- LG V60 ThinQ
- Really: XT, X2 PRO, X2, X50
- Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 8
- Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 9
But in Samsung Galaxy S20 и Samsung Galaxy S20 Plus a second generation SAMSUNG CMOS Bright ISOCELL Plus GW2 (S5KGW2) sensor with regular RGB instead of TetraCell is used.
4 more cameras:
Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB has 4 more cameras:
- For macro photography, with a focusing distance of 2 centimeters, 2 MP, shoots poorly even by phone standards
- Wide-angle, with a viewing angle of 120 degrees diagonally, 8 MP with an aperture of f / 2.2, shoots quite passably, but the corners and edges are very weak
- 2 MP depth-of-field camera (it does not create an image itself, but helps when shooting with a blurred background)
- Front selfie camera at 20 MP with f / 2.0, shoots quite passably
Image quality and sample photos on the 64 MP main camera
In good light, the sensor operates at low ISOs and produces good image quality with reasonably high detail and dynamic range. True, even at the lowest ISO 100, artifacts from image processing algorithms are noticeable. First of all, a kind of looseness of some parts of the image catches the eye.
On close inspection of the photos, it feels like the optics can't cope with all 64 megapixels. The edges and corners of an image in 1: 1 viewing can lose a lot of detail.
Image quality deteriorates greatly from using the built-in image filters. When using filters such as "bright" or "dim" and others like that, detail suffers greatly, and the final image when viewed 1: 1 looks like a mess of pixels. The picture looks best with default settings.
By default, the phone imprints a watermark that identifies the phone model from which the photo was taken. A kind of built-in advertising for those who are too lazy to disable this function in the settings.
As soon as ISO crosses the threshold of 140 units, stronger noise reduction algorithms come into force, which completely eat up the image details, after which there is no sense from 64 MP. The algorithms preserve the contours of objects, but the image details are completely lost. In such a case, it is best to use AI Intelligent Mode, which will automatically enable 16MP mode and enhance the final images.
Tetra HDR is very useful and dramatically improves the dynamic range of your images. I would even advise you to almost always shoot in this mode. To make it always work, you need to turn off AI mode and turn on HDR. With both HDR and AI enabled, HDR only works when selected by AI. For the camera to shoot in this mode by default, you need to select “remember settings” in the menu.
Color rendering does not suffer from anything particularly bad, but white balance the camera installs quite correctly. The bokeh is hard enough.
Sample Photos
The camera was used with a stock processor (program) responsible for photo and video filming.
View and download original photos from the main sensor Redmire Xiaomi Note Pro 8 you can go to Google Drive at this link (many JPEG files). In the future, I plan to add more and more examples of photos to the gallery on Google Drive.
UPDATED
A few more photos.
UPDATE 2
Video with examples can take a look here и here.
My experience
At first, I was strongly and pleasantly surprised by the capabilities of the main camera. Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB, especially on the pictures sent to me in Viber (pinched and reduced). But when I took the sample photos on the flash drive from my mother and studied them in detail, my fuse faded a little. However, it is often seen that the picture was taken with a phone. Although in many cases the main sensor Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB can produce pictures with stunning phone-like detail.
In social networks here и here I asked subscribers what the attached photos were received for. Opinions were very different - who guessed right away that it was a phone, someone put forward completely different assumptions that it was shot with SLR cameras, someone indicated the brand of the lens. A poll like this shows how much cameraphones have evolved lately.
Subjectively: if we abstract and try to compare, then the main module Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 Pro 6 / 128GB in general, it barely reaches the level of old cropped cameras with APS-C sensor of 2007-2010 and kit lenses of class 18-55 / 3.5-5.6. To some, this may seem like a weak result, but in fact it gives huge opportunities.
Materials on the topic
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- Subpixels
- What's next?
- Battle of Megapixels
- Gigapixels
- The future of amateur photography in one picture
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Material prepared Arkady Shapoval.
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We are waiting for the review on the iPhone 11.
Why was it? Someone needs to promote mom too! 😂
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"You see the gopher ..."
You can isolate yourself and not admit that camera phones have made significant progress in progress, but this does not stop him at all. But the connection with reality is quite possible to lose ... And this must be taken into account by both manufacturers and users of photographic equipment.
The desired article. And it makes sense to continue to consider the capabilities of camera phones from a professional point of view.
It is already clear that as an auxiliary soap dish, a good enough smart is.
For mom and instagram - the very thing)
Oh! The unfortunate wedding photographer pulled up.
Interesting review. It is very clearly shown that physics cannot be fooled. Although 100% that it will become even more difficult for photographers to prove their worth.
I have a Samsung 21. 48 megapixels are produced only by one camera, I noticed it when it was turned off. And when you look at the picture from the phone, it is immediately clear that they are still walking and walking before the mirror.
While Nikons and Kenons were stomping around, all sorts of Xiaomi stuffed tetra pixels, isocels, bsi, made a simple hdr, in a couple of years all these DSLRs will be a thing of the past. Cipa reports that revenues from sales of photographic equipment fell sharply, while cameraphones rose
however, this has nothing to do with the quality of photos, only with the convenience and weight of the devices
When xiaomi begins to install a full-frame sensor and bayonet in smartphones, then it is possible, but not earlier. A marketer can fool anyone except the laws of physics and optics.
This is not far off, many users have already convinced that a good smart can easily replace a compact. The laws of physics and optics will also convince, just as retouchers convince all of us of perfect skin and perfect hair of any model, computational photography will overcome physical limitations.
No one has yet thought of integrating a GSM module into the phone, so that not only the phone takes pictures, but also the camera calls, and then to make coffee, etc.
Arkady, not everything is so quick and easy. You yourself wrote that the image is loose and I agree. It is not subject to processing and viewing is recommended only on a smartphone. Someone realizes that the quality of a smartphone is enough for him and this is normal. Now you can shoot gatherings with friends, birthdays and weddings on your smartphone. But, alas, there is no wild nature, no sport, no stellar landscapes. Because if a smartphone is upgraded to modern large cameras, then it will be more expensive than these cameras - it makes no sense. But time will tell. Thank you for sharing your experience! (I already tried 108 megapixels in order to assess the capabilities of the photo and calmed down - it's not even close)
As the owner of this unit, I fully agree with the author. From myself, I can add the presence of a hard (very) oversharp when shooting in the bright sun. The problem is apparently software, because the ggl-camera does not suffer from this. But there is no desire to dance with a tambourine around Google from the word at all, so we shoot as it is and remember this feature. ))
There are also problems on the Samsunge A51, my daughter has this, and I did not find it in the km settings to win. But on Redme note 6 pro, I removed a little contrast in the settings of my native camera and set sharpening to a minimum. In lightroom or Photoshop, then I add "sharpness" and quite myself it turns out nothing like for a phone - a photo of a notebook.
I would like to see a review of the first mobile phone with an autofocus camera ... SE K750i. It was a landmark pipe.
https://vk.com/siemenscam - even more interesting))))
https://mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k750.shtml
It will be interesting to read the 108MP review (one hundred and eight, Karl) Xiami Mi10 from Arcadia :-)
They write that Sony's sensors for phones are much more interesting in terms of image quality than those from Samsung (which is in Mi 10)
Mi10Pro in the dxomark top
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-mi-10-pro-camera-review/
I understand that dxomark is a controversial topic, but the pictures from it are really good.
Take a look in the comments to the dxomark review of this Redmi Note 8 Pro, they are simply equated with the ground, and from the very review it is clear that they were not "brought" for Redmi Note 8 Pro. I was extremely surprised at what dxomark has gone down to.
He never "got up". The bias was visible from the start, not to mention the hidden testing techniques
Dxomark has already enabled pre-moderation in the comments.
I wanted to bomb in the comments about the Huawei P40 Pro, which is on the 1st place there, but for some reason the dire game is shooting for me, but it did not work out.
Probably because dxo lies under the Chinese and does not really jerk.
After weaning Huawei from Google services, they shove money wherever possible.
It would be better to cut prices for their crafts in half than spend millions on advertising and promotion.
Dxo had many scandals - this is the situation with the recalculation of the Canon 1Dx mk3 rating - they had to apologize to ... Canon (o_0 wtf - and what about the readers ?!), there was a scandal with Pentax on K-1. There was a shameful recalculation of the 808/1020 Nokia rating - when they beat competitors in the photos, and the rating was ultimately underestimated and there were screams in the comments about this topic. I hope they will be brought out to clean water.
I'm sure none of the most sophisticated smartphones can shoot like that.
The iPhone 11 with software blur and depth map can do it. And if you connect to all this more rigorous mathematics for simulating aberrations in bokeh, then a classic (non-computational) photograph can be completely covered with a copper basin in the amateur segment.
Where is the world heading? .. :)
Yes, a year ago I would have strongly argued about the advantages of cameras over smartphones, but the other day there was a meeting with friends and many updated their gadgets, came with top models, while I am with my DSLR. After viewing general photographs under the same conditions, I was shocked by the result. And in low light, smartphones are much better.
The same story, my old D5000 at high ISO performs much worse than modern smartphones.
Can not manage. He cannot accurately separate the flower from the background, eats up all sorts of villi or pieces of the background are not blurred. For viewing on a smartphone, more or less. These artifacts are visible on the monitor. Life is too diverse, it is difficult to calculate it :) it was already in the Matrix! :)
Similar photos from the same review are not particularly worse. Flower and blur, this is generally a ball for modern phones + some kind of filter to give a "highly artistic" effect
See how Redmi takes notes 7
What surprises me in phones is not the percent, the camera matrix, memory, etc., but the lens. How can these multiple lenses resolve such small pixels, and without aperture ?! It is clear that the phone will not allow 64MP, but even if it can cope with 10-16MP, it means that its lenses give out about 300 lines / mm. Question: why are there no such sharp glasses for DSLRs and UPC? Can't make or hold release until suitable matrices are available?
Elementary, Watson: with proportional lens magnification, aberrations grow quadratically to the size of the aperture.
An excellent example is the series: Industar-69 28 / 2.8, Industar-26m 50 / 2.8, Industar-29 80 / 2.8, Industar-24M 105 / 3.5. Of course, these lenses are not proportionally modified by one or the other, but belong to the same design and the same level of technology. However, the resolution in the center of the frame for these lenses falls from lower to higher FD.
DPR recently had three articles about computational photography, in short, phones have long been making not photographs, but glued pictures from constantly filming videos. So the optics do not allow either 16 or 12 megapixels there.
class :) The youngest was recently bought after a long election. Although the Samsung M31 is the best, the best in terms of photography.
Thanks for the setting tips!
But I'm going to go buy Kodak Aerocolor tomorrow. I have already shot on the Kodak Vision3 (50D, 250D, 500T) cinemas, now we need to try it out.
Yes, marketers did rape engineers)
Talking about the photo capabilities of smartphones is quite normal. The world is moving forward with rapid steps, new technologies are being mastered, covering a large circle of people. Politicians write on social networks: it is much faster than reporting through the media, and in terms of coverage, it will soon not be inferior, or maybe somewhere no longer inferior.
When buying a smartphone, more and more people are looking at its photo and video capabilities. The smartphone is almost always at hand. But you also need to understand that pictures from smartphones are usually viewed from smartphones and tablets, and not on a 50-inch screen, and they do not make 6x3 m boards from them.
Today, or rather, 2 years ago, even a budget Redmi 7A worth $ 100 (at the time of the start of sales) has a shooting mode with custom settings: you can manually set ISO, shutter speed (up to 32 sec), WB in Kelvin, adjust focus.
So why not keep up with the times and cover the photo possibilities of smartphones. It's quite normal.
It is very interesting about pixels, I still could not understand how they are combined, they are, as it were, of different colors, it turned out that the debaerization scheme was different (shifted)
The latest smartphones from Google have decent cameras. The video quality is especially impressive.
Pictures from Xiaomi look good on a smartphone screen, but as for the editors ... Even Canon 5d 15 years ago has much more potential in this sense.
Not entirely correct, of course, the experience with Redmi Note 7, 48 Mpix.
One shooting point, the same ISO 400, automatic exposure, all enhancements are turned off on the smartphone, for comparison Panasonic dmc-fz45.
The miracle did not happen, the noise in the darkest area from the smartphone is more noticeable, otherwise the differences, as I understand it, are caused by the optics.
But, as my colleague said above, the years go by, processing algorithms and hardware capabilities are growing.
With smartphones, you get quite high-quality pictures indoors, including, without a flash, etc., etc.
Regarding the "degradation of amateur photographers" :)
What difference does it make to us whether the device itself or the RAW converter will process the digital? Rather, it is a matter of taste and preference of developers and users.
Another question is that it is more convenient and easier to use a smartphone in everyday life than a camera, especially a DSLR, you attract less attention to yourself. :)
Sometimes, in some memorable places, people around ask to take them off on their own smartphone. It's just anguish - in terms of perspective. Incomprehensible aspect ratio, trying to choose the tilt and height of the camera from the ground to keep the geometry. In short, I won't say anything about juiciness, brightness, sharpness, etc. But in terms of perspective and geometry - a smartphone will never be a camera, but perhaps a tool for photographing ...
Since we have moved away from fundamental reviews of DSLRs and optics for them, I would very much like to see a review from Arkady on Nikon Coolpix P520.
Nobody left anywhere
Then I'm sorry. But the opinion on Nikon Coolpix P520 is still very interesting. Captivates with a rotary screen, as in the 5000 series of DSLRs and Nikon optics. Interesting to buy in the secondary market.
The model you mentioned is already obsolete. If we talk in general about this type of pseudo-mirror cameras, or bridge cameras, then these cameras look like DSLRs, cost almost like SLRs, but are much worse than SLRs. There is no point in this type. The point in them is only for the marketers promoting them. And the biggest disadvantage compared to DSLRs is that when you level up and feel cramped within the built-in lens, you won't be able to expand the camera's capabilities with other lenses.
Arkady. Go will throw off the photos that were taken on the phone. If the norms publish
In short, I have had this phone for a long time. Generally! Shirik, it almost sucks here. Vtopku. Macromodule. By experience, I found out that it is better to shoot 64MP on the main one, and crop up to 100 percent than to shoot on the wretched macro module. These modules are there for marketing only. Main camera. Well, here it seems to be good for a 1 / 1.7 inch matrix as well as in redmi note7. You put a google camera, with its super HDR and order. I shoot macro using the main module, with a lens attached to a clothespin from some kind of projection lens. Photos are divine. One cant, which is from the lens from the projection lens to the edge of the photo in some kind of bokeh circle. We have to scribble. Well, okay. You can also attach a laser pointer lens. And there will be a microscope type shoto. Naturally, only the main module. Farther. 64mp. If you sprinkle them by a third or a half, then more norms. If you crop 100 percent, you already get a daub from pixels. It can be seen that the phone or the lens is not able to resolve it. It feels like if you crop up to 200, you will see the squares. Well, something like this. I hope someone will find it useful
I apologize, the site itself is about a professional technique and a thread about something else. If it is redundant, remove it immediately! :)
A colleague asked about a bridge camera, which is basically a hobbyist with a large lens. Any device is just a tool and there is always the right place for it. Moreover, for a hobby, the budget is often in the first place. For a picture (on Google approx. 1,5 km) with a DSLR, you need to understand what, filmed on Panasonic dmc-fz45.
These cameras are great for “dead” nature in the sun. Birds are possible, but difficult, the sparrow managed to jump back during the shutter operation. :)
Oh ... They are called pseudo-mirrors or hybrids. “Bridge camera” is a very controversial tracing-paper with a bridge camera in a superbrain style.
Another name is ultrazoom.
myself I can only add - why limit yourself in tools?
The convenience of a smartphone, the speed and iso of a DSLR, the dimensions of a super-zoom, why not use separate devices for this?
Mnu, in addition to Panasonic and a Pentax DSLR, has a Canon sx100is. And this small had, in terms of macro photography, in a hurry, will give them both odds!
That's what pisses me off is shooting vertical video. Those. brains were enough to buy an iPhone 11, but to turn the phone 90 degrees - no. I am not against vertical photos. But when a 4k video is written wide in vertical orientation, it's a scribe. I want to hit my hands with a hammer. For tank-slit videos have filled youtube.
Unfortunately, all women and even many men record videos this way.
just recently I watched as norot filmed video of the light and music fountain on their phones - 90% of those filming kept their slippers upright. and this is regardless of gender, race or religion :)
This is okay, when a horizontal video is viewed vertically, this is generally beyond understanding. The same mentioned Tik-Tok converts this way. Amateur videos were sent to me. In one of them, the rainbow was filmed vertically, it did not fall into the frame and the shooter drove left and right. And the video from the rock concert was the same, The phone darted left and right, back and forth like a shuttle.
Arkady please delete my post above. I wrote from the phone, posted in the wrong place.
Dmitry, that's okay. It really is a problem that everyone is recording vertical video. And Tik-Tok is generally built on this.
Well, flip your smartphone 90 degrees when viewing stories on Instagram.
Tell me, if "mnu" is "me", then "tbu" is "you"?
Yeah. :)
Guilty, I’ll correct it.
And about the orientation of the video, we will wait, they will finish the software and the right choice will be automatic, I think so.
This is not macro photography, this is some kind of nonsense. Buy yourself a pentax macro ring and you will get the same nonsense on the whale. Well, it focused on 30 cm, well, it blurred the background and a piece of leaf half a millimeter thick showed it sharp - hurray, but this is not macro.
Here is a snapshot of 1,5 km
That's what pisses me off is shooting vertical video. Those. brains were enough to buy an iPhone 11, but to turn the phone 90 degrees - no. I am not against vertical photos. But when a 4k video is written wide in vertical orientation, it's a scribe. I want to hit my hands with a hammer. For tank-slit videos have filled youtube.
oh, boyar, how accurate you are in terms - just bravo! :)
The coolest camera review in a smartphone that I have seen on runet. We walked through the technologies and soberly appreciated. You should fly into the reviewers of smartphones on YouTube, tell you purely from the photographic part as a professional photographer from experience. Now there are only roosters crowing nonsense :(
- a cell phone has already killed such a class of cameras as a compact - although someone uses superzoom compacts, but this will not last very long, judging by the speed of improving the quality of photos on cell phones ...
At the same time, smartphones are already squeezing out DSLRs with UPC in the segment of the mass user, although any professional or high-class photographer will still be shooting for a very long time with serious camera cameras, which, with more or less serious preparation of the photographer, give him a guaranteed result in any shooting conditions, which smartphones will not be reached soon - after all, not only smartphones cameras are being improved, but also professional cameras and the gap between them in the quality and predictability of the result obtained, it will still remain quite a decent time ...
There is also such a moment - in addition to the number of camera modules, they also began to increase the physical size of the matrices in these cameras. At least in expensive smartphones over the past 3-4 years, this is exactly what happens.
This is certainly a minus.
What I really don't like is that the diagonal of the screens is growing, and already for many smartphones it falls over 5,5 ″, which is too much.
I remember how they used to laugh at the Samsung Galaxy NOTE (1-2-3) and called them lampshades or tablet phones. So what now? For many modern Xiaomi, the diagonal is already creeping up to 7 ″ (ie, to the size of the younger iPad of the past years).
“There is also such a moment - in addition to the number of camera modules, they also began to increase the physical size of the matrices in these cameras. At least in expensive smartphones over the past 3-4 years, this is exactly what happens.
This is certainly a minus.
This is certainly a minus. ”
> Ugh, on the contrary - PLUS. That's it, it's time to watch movies on the side.
If we compare a modern smartphone and an old 10-year-old DSLR, then smartphones with their algorithms and subpixels in low light conditions give a much better result.
What are the criteria for the “best” result? Ten years ago there were 5D II, 7D, 60D, all three I would take.
If there is really little light, the frame will not come out good, whatever you do with it. There is only a tripod and a slow shutter speed, which the phone cannot afford. And even these shots are not all good.
The best thing is the number of likes and reposts, isn't it nipanyatnaaaa? ..
I mean amateur DSLRs. “The best” in terms of handheld shooting with an acceptable (for a family album and social networks) result. Old DSLRs do very poorly at high ISOs. I disagree about a tripod and long exposure: phones still can afford it, a tripod is needed less and many have a manual mode that allows exposure up to 30 seconds
Well, how to attach 80-200 2.8 to tilipon? ))
Scotch tape.
There are practically no telephones on phones, with rare exceptions, there are phones with ultra-zoom lenses. For example Huawei P30 pro.