Canon EOS 6D Short Review and Impressions

Canon EOS 6D was officially unveiled on 17.09.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX and was released after such iconic cameras as Canon EOS 5D MarkIICanon EOS 5D Mark III и Canon EOS1DX.

Canon EOS 6D

Canon EOS 6D

I sometimes rent a Canon EOS 6D, for example, when there is no free access Canon EOS 5D Mark III... From the last that I shot with her - these are sample photos for review Yongnuo 85 / 1.8 at one of the wedding workshops.

All at once:

  1. The Canon 6D is the first member of Canon's new line of EOS cameras. it amateur full frame cameras... Despite the fact that the number '6' is greater than '5', the lineup of 'sixes' (Canon EOS 6D /Canon EOS 6D MarkII) a class lower than the lineup of fives: Canon EOS 5DCanon EOS 5D MarkIICanon EOS 5D Mark IIICanon EOS 5D Mark IV и Canon EOS 5Ds/Canon EOS 5dsr... To summarize very much, the Canon 6D is a blend of the cropped 60D / 70D line and the five line. The Nikon system has almost the same class of cameras - this Nikon D600, Nikon D610.
  2. The Canon 6D focuses on a 11-point focusing module. High precision cruciform center point. The high precision horizontal line sensor works only with lenses with large aperture (at F≤2.8, and with lenses 2.8 60D... Unfortunately, the Canon 6D sensor is not made with DUAL PIXEL technology, and therefore focusing in Live View mode is noticeably worse than that of cameras with more advanced technology.
  3. The Canon 6D uses an ISO range of 100-25.600, expandable to 50-102.800. Camera behaves well at high ISOs, noticeably better than the popular Canon EOS 5D MarkII... The DIGIC 5+ processor is responsible for image processing, exactly the same processor works in the cameras Canon 5D Mark III и Canon 70D, and in TOP models Canon 1DX/Canon 1DC used double digic 5+.
  4. JVI covers 97% of the frame and has a magnification of 0.71x
  5. The 20.2MP sensor is a balanced solution for a wide range of photo tasks. The difference in the size of the final image from cameras Canon EOS 5D MarkIICanon EOS 5D Mark III and Canon 6D is very difficult to feel.
  6. The burst speed is 4.5 fps, which is not much, but which is sufficient for a very wide range of photographic tasks. The speed is felt as being closer to 4 fps. The buffer is approximately 14 RAW shots. RAW files weigh an average of 20-25 MB.
  7. An excellent feature of the camera is video recording Full HD 1080p 1920 X 1080, 29.97 fps, MPEG-4 AVC / H.264 codecs, MOV format, there is a built-in mono microphone, for convenience you can use the HDMI output. Depending on the compression, the average bit rate is ALL-I: 90 Mbps and IPB: 30 Mbps. During video shooting, there is no constant tracking focus, and there is also no headphone jack.
  8. The camera only uses one format card slot SD and supports UHS-I high speed bus (write speed up to 104 MB / sec.). One memory card slot is the norm for amateur cameras.
  9. The main display of the camera is three-inch, not rotatable and not touch-sensitive at 1.040.000 points. There is also an additional monochrome display for quick setting of the main shooting parameters.
  10. Canon 6D has built-in Wi-Fi and GPS, which will be important for some amateur and professional. The camera can be controlled via Wi-Fi.
  11. Of course, the camera has many interesting and useful features, such as creating HDR, quiet shooting mode, etc. You can describe your useful camera observations in the comments.
  12. On Canon 6D, you can install third-party magic lantern firmware and get more functions than in the firmware version out of the box.

My experience

The six is ​​a great idea and a laudable start for Canon. I think the Canon 6D is a very successful camera.

For videographers who don't need autofocus for video and are used to working with Canon, the Canon 6D is a godsend.

The minimum shutter speed is 1/4000 s. I do not consider it significant, but the lack of a built-in flash was a little surprising.

There is often a choice between the Canon 6D and Canon EOS 5D MarkII, in general I recommend the newer 'six'. Transition from Canon EOS 5D Classic, Canon EOS1 Rev, Canon EOS-1 Ds mark ii the Canon 6D is also fully justified. If funds for Canon EOS 5D Mark III is not enough, the Canon 6D at first can serve well as its replacement.

In my hands were 'sixes', the mileage of which was well over half a million, worn to holes. Despite being a hobbyist (advanced hobbyist) camera, the Canon 6D is capable of withstanding serious stresses during photography and video shooting.

Sample Photos on Canon EOS 6D

Lens shots YONGNUO YN85mm F1.8. Photos taken using RAW ('.CR2') file conversion with Canon original utility Digital Photo Pprofessional 4 (Canon DPP) without any changes. The control mode 'Standard' was used with the default settings '3/0/0/0'.

Original RAW ('.CR2') photos can be download from this link (79 photos, 1700 MB). More examples can be found in the review of the legendary lens. MINOLTA MC ROKKOR 1: 1.2 f = 58mm.

Materials on the topic:

  1. A lot of information about the Canon EOS system
  2. Focus Sensors Canon EOS
  3. Exposure Sensors Canon EOS
  4. Which Canon amateur digital SLR camera to choose?

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Comments: 292, on the topic: Overview and impressions of the Canon EOS 6D

  • Ivan Wolverine

    started in 2011 with Canon 500D, but the question arose of switching to full format, but Canon 6D did not have flash, so I bought Nikon D610 ...

    • Arkady Shapoval

      I remember in 2009, 15 megapixels at 500d was something unimaginable

  • Alexey

    In my opinion, the strong point of this camera is the in-camera jpg. There are quite a few other devices that have roughly 6D noise at the RAW level. But if you want to get a normal, not stupid human face in jpg without problems at ISO 3200-6400, Canon 6D is beyond competition. IMHO, of course.

    • Novel

      Jpeg is so-so. Like all kenons.

  • Michael R

    And the color from the camera? Many people write that the color in 1Ds is one of the best in Canon!

    • Arkady Shapoval

      The 1DS series are completely different cameras, they do not shoot video and are completely different in everything, and it is also very important - they are all out of production, the last of them was released back in 2007.

      1 DS Mark III is similar to Ceteom 5d Mark 2

      1 DS Mark II has its own specific pleasant color, but the camera itself is very outdated and it doesn’t make much sense to take it instead of 6d, as I already indicated in the review

      about 1 DS Classic they also sing songs about good color, but in general 6d is much more interesting, because besides color there are also dd and high ISO

    • Novel

      1ds mark 3 is identical in color to 5d mark 2.
      You do not identify in paired photos who is who.
      Older in color slightly worse, the matrix was doped later.
      For an inexperienced photographer, the entire line from the first token and the first unit to the mark 3 and 5dsr inclusive produces an identical color.
      Actually, for this, they appreciated the kenon - changing the carcass does not change the color of the profiles and post-processing.

  • Novel

    From personal experience, I worked for a long time with pyadvak, 6d and mark 3.
    6e and mark 3 have the same essentially matrix. The difference in the thickness of the color filters
    At 6d and mark 3 they are thinner with all the pros and cons.
    If we compare the mark3 and 6d, the 6d picture is a little better, the matrix was finished.
    But there are no ADCs on the matrix for all three cameras, with all that follows.
    The built-in is not needed, the kenon does not set it correctly freeing up space on the board.
    In 6d, the focusing screen changes to another one with wedges in 1 min - very convenient for working with a manual.
    In general, the camera is very reliable, successful in all respects and much better than the d610.
    6d turned out to be so good that brand 3 sales sharply reduced, due to which 6dmk2 was immediately neutered to the picture to avoid.
    Between 6d and the pyadvak, I would have taken the pyadvak without any options for myself. For bombs better than 6d.

    • Neo

      1dsm2 years was the best fashion camera in the world with the best color, it costs a lot

      • Alexander

        Due to the lack of competitors and not because of the best of several cameras.
        It was discontinued in 2007 (started in 2004) and already in 2008, developments with the new matrix were implemented in 5D MK2 and other new cameras.

    • Ruslan

      Why is it better than the D610? Interested in arguments :)
      He shot on the second nickle and on the 610th. D610 is many times better in AF tenacity, in noise, and in DD. I didn’t shoot on 6D, that's why I wonder what its advantages are in front of D610

      • Arkady Shapoval

        I shot a lot on d610 / d600 and more than once I worked with 6d.
        Personally, I like the d610 more in terms of control, dd and focusing, and when choosing between d610 and 6d, I personally would take d610 for my own purposes and with my troubles. But cross-system elections are complex and personal, almost intimate.
        6d is interesting in 'kenon' color, video and survivability, inexpensive successful model.

    • Tatyana

      Did you even hold d610 in your hands? Where are such conclusions from?

  • Novel

    For example, 6d, it is interesting to consider the question about the shutter resource, which is getting a nausea.
    Having a declared resource lower than Nikon, 6d works without problems and 250k and more.
    Just because the claimed shutter resource is just marketing, you can declare 100k and 300k and 300000k.
    This does not add any warranty obligations.
    Therefore, when buying a camera, watching this parameter does not make sense, it breaks even at 30k for some and does not break at 300k for others.
    Somewhere there were statistics on d700 nikons, half of the shutter failures accounted for 70k-150k. What is usual for ff zk.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      6d tenacious, like 5d mark 2

      • Novel

        At ff kenon all cameras are tenacious.
        6d has a simplified shutter in comparison with the mark 3 but a modified design.

        • Serhii

          In mechanics, yes, the electronics at Kenon are not the most tenacious, I have a large selection of Kenon carcasses, none died due to a breakdown in the mechanics, but several failed on the electronics side, two 5d failed the central board, 40d the upper lcd failed, 10d the central board 30d just shuts down forever. I know cases from acquaintances where the top LCD failed in 6d, the second one stopped showing the battery charge (constantly maximum), and when it is discharged, it itself is chopped off instantly.

  • Michael R

    Arkady - thanks for the comment. There are simply different approaches. There is a professional one - like yours. And there is an amateur, I would say gourmet - from give them a beautiful color straight from the camera, like in Fuji S-3 / S-5, and for the sake of color they can forgive a lot
    Only Fuji is a crop, and 1Ds, 1Ds-II is F.F. Well, DD for gourmets, of course, is also very important along with color.
    And the prices for used boards are probably much lower than for Canon 6D.

  • Oleg

    For amateur tasks is a perfectly suitable tool. Full frame for a reasonable price tag with acceptable noise. Of course, focusing on the center is not always convenient, but on the side in normal lighting it works quite well.
    In contrast to the 60s, there is a lens adjustment. Good bun)
    In JPG I don’t shoot in principle. Due to underexposure. When shooting, the camera automation protects from overexposure. Which is correct. It’s easier to pull the shadows than to get a broken hole)
    I show in the native DPP utility. Corrects the exposure nonlinearly and I like it.
    Of course, the 5d mark3 is cooler. But the price tag matches)
    I do not see the point of replacing the carcass at the moment.

    • Novel

      I will add that in 6d and other cameras above, the exact adjustment of the lenses goes along two points, which is important for zooms and not one like Nikon.

    • Roman

      Well, change the exposure calculation method and use the exposure wheel. Plus or minus a third and a half steps is never a problem, there are different scenes.

    • Novel

      Mark 3 is not the best. I had both.
      The picture is cleaner at 6d. 6d is lighter and due to the simplified new shutter has a really quiet mode. 6d is lighter and smaller. Again, the focus screen in 6d change the case for 1 min.
      Mark 3 has many of its merits.
      Therefore, the pros usually kept them in a pair, mark 3 main and 6d back-up.

    • Alexander

      and for many professional purposes, too.

  • Alexander

    “Unfortunately, the Canon 6D sensor is not DUAL PIXEL technology, and therefore focusing in Live View is noticeably worse than with cameras with more advanced technology.”

    Not sure if this is unfortunately.
    The placement of phase sensors on the matrix clearly adversely affected color stability. None of the Canon cameras with dual pixels has received the color level of cameras with matrices without it.

  • Alexander

    "Canon 6D has built-in Wi-Fi and GPS"

    as far as I remember, options were released both with Wi-Fi and GPS and without.

    • Roman

      In China, only WiFi. Somewhere, in Cyprus, it seems, there was an option without WiFi and GPS - nuances with certification.

  • Alexander

    Very short review. Rather, notes or thoughts about rather than a review.
    6D has troubles with ergonomics and buttons. Nikon has his own peculiarities with AF (for example). It would be nice to compare with 6D Mk2, 5d Mk2 and Mk3 and with competitors such as Nikon d600 / d610 and even D750.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Yes, that's why it is called “short” overview and “impressions”.

  • Alexander

    Interesting observations.
    6D on the photo is one of the most popular cameras, the profile theme has been extended many times, a huge number of beautiful pictures.
    Abroad 6d is again very popular until now, it is valued for its reliability and very good color (Nikon d610 is not often found there even on the secondary).
    Apparently, local lovers do not know the camera and do not even consider buying it, preferring it to the d610 with its ugly gray color with green spots (no offense).
    Obviously, for beginners, characteristics on paper and parrots in DRL are important (D610 is much cooler than 6d for them), for advanced photographers, real work is important.
    An equally obvious conclusion is that the public is, for the most part, completely new to photography.

    • Roman

      This is a niche camera - for advanced amateurs who want a full frame, but do not want to overpay. My friends bombers use all 5D iterations, amateurs prefer three-digit series, very rarely anyone has two digits. And so, in order to be able to enter money in fotik and lenses (full-frame lenses are needed) - there are few of them.

    • Roman

      For example, when I wanted a full frame, I looked towards the 6D II - somehow I liked its characteristics much more. But against the background of the development of mirrorless cameras - oh well it. 5D III - 5D IV even for a hobby - generally just put money on the shelf. A very cheap 5D I, but its condition is appalling. I chose between 5D II and 6D I. 5D II was much cheaper, but not much worse in a number of indicators, and somewhere even better (all-weather and 1/8000 - it was important to me).

      • Alexander

        6d here discusses two novels and Arkady with Alexander.
        it’s not enough for one of the most popular, affordable and popular cameras of the last 5 years.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Considering that I posted this note today at lunch, and the mailing list to subscribers has not yet arrived, it is too early to talk about this topic.

          • Alexander

            I bet that there are practically no owners of the former and current 6D.
            indirectly, one can judge by the questions of beginners; they do not even consider buying canons. usually their questions are to buy nikon or nikon. )

            • Arkady Shapoval

              Not quite so, take a look at the topic: https://radojuva.com/2013/11/camera-canon-best-buy/

              • Alexander

                as if the topic from 2013 is a bit .. outdated)

              • Neo

                There “The article was last edited on 12.09.2019/90/XNUMX (added by XNUMXD)”, the topic is relevant for beginners and is asked constantly, though the same thing

              • Alexander

                Imagine you are a beginner. Does this article help you much?
                I think not really. It’s completely incomprehensible what the difference is, which is better, etc.
                It would be possible to make blocks - these cameras (especially crops!) Are no different, here are their common + and -.
                In that spirit.
                And so, for example, I perfectly know the huge difference between 5Dmk2, 6D and 6D Mk2. And the latter, to put it mildly, is far from the best.
                Tell about the generation of matrices, their differences, when there was a sharp jump in the picture.
                So that a beginner after spending 5-10 minutes clearly decided that this or that should be chosen.

              • Neo

                You see, beginners don’t even know what a matrix, a generation and so on is. Take a look at the comments in the article about the choice and immediately everything will become clear. I am happy no matter how you turn closer to the people, lovers, who are the vast majority, not pros. Those who know about the generation and color do not read this, and who do not know Arkady gives a clear gradation, 90d is better than 77d and no one gets confused and it’s very true that in such articles there are no 5dm3 and 1dh, for beginners they still need to be grown

              • Fedor

                Well done! Beginners still need to learn a lot before judging color, etc.

              • Arkady Shapoval

                The problem is that you only watch from your own belfry and you specifically need “matrix generations” and other blocks. Practice shows that amateurs do not even know what it is.

              • Roman

                You see ... Some beginners shoot photographs, not color. Therefore, your religious revelations will also not help them make a choice.

              • Vitaly N

                As an everywhere. Who needs music, the plot in the picture and film, and who needs the aftertone with the correct direction of the wires, the direction of the feng shui strokes and special effects.

              • Iskander

                There in the table you need to add - the 600D has a rotary screen.

              • Arkady Shapoval

                Fixed

            • Vladimir

              Better not start arguing. I am the current owner of 6D, esichё)

        • Michael

          Given that the bulk of the audience sits on another system, it’s almost not surprising

          • Alexander

            very noticeable.

    • Artem

      D610 is just a cut better and more technologically advanced. I’m not talking about the earthen-poop favorite color in Kenon. 6d is simply the most cheap, but for the cheapness you will have to pay a price with autofocus, wrapped settings, and bad color. And miserable dd. This is confirmed by the examples laid out here.

      • Roman

        Alexander Roman lives once more, now in the body of a Nikon fan?

      • petya

        Artem with his 610, don't carry a snowstorm ...

  • Michael R

    In short, a good full-frame camera for poor (for the poor) with good color and good technical capabilities!

    • Alexander

      see above, have already noted that cheaper does not mean worse.
      6d sensor is better than 5dmk3. again, as a replacement 6d camera, better than mark3.
      color is much better than nikon d600 / 610, d750 or d800 / d810. etc.

      • Artem

        All full-frame Nikon and even the old d700 are better than this canon. So do not smack nonsense. 6d was already an outdated camera at the exit, which only costs autofocus, a low level of DD. The only thing that saves this camera is the price.

      • Ruslan

        If you don’t like the color, it’s easy to edit in any decent editor.
        But the AF system on the nikon you listed is an order of magnitude better than 5d to mk3 and 6d (if we consider focusing through the A / V JVI).
        But what's the point of arguing, then who has what park of lenses, hence the choice of camera. The masterpiece of the frame depends to a large extent on the shooter himself, and the camera is just a tool, and there are no bad cameras in this price range.

        • Pokemon

          1) If there are several hundred photos and you need to edit at least two hundred and a night ... it's such a pleasure.
          2) Not everyone is corrected by quick editing, even if the BB preset was well selected on the set.
          3) The BB for the D750 and some other Nikon cameras is not very well tuned to the fluorescent lamps that are sold with us and can lead the BB to acid-green shades.
          4) The green floor in combination with fluorescent lamps of yellow-green light (Pavilion in Sokolniki) or even when many shades of green in the frame can lead away the bb so that it turns into a balance of green, not white. Will have to edit for a long time and dreary and not the fact that you will correct.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In the pictures you can see the top skinton :)

      • Alexander

        for sure! )
        but in general there is with a skinton, but there are legal troubles there so I don’t post them, finding people with 6D is not a problem at all.

      • Alexander

        Arkady, tell me, this is his own Roman - when does he become silent or flood everyone on everything in non-stop mode?
        A couple of such Roman - and people will not post any examples or comments, due to the phenomenal ability of Roman to vulgarize and flood anything. At the same time, this "great guru" did not upload any of his own photos)))

        • Vitaly N

          And who do you relate to? Aren't you the same Alexander who wrote garbage in the topic about the FR?

        • Neo

          I read all the comments and I don’t see Roman write, offend or impose something off-topic

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Please note that this user does not violate or insult anything, especially in this post.

          • Alexander

            Arkady, probably Roman speaks to you like that?

            Roman
            14.09.2019 in 20: 08
            My bunny, wipe your blind eyes. "

            Do you regard this as normal communication? )

            • Arkady Shapoval

              For this I will not add to the blacklist for sure.

        • Alexey_S

          Roman is a pretty boy. Finally, someone convincingly settled down a group of lamp-colored lovers, from which it was impossible to breathe on Radozhiv.

          Color, like the camera as a whole, is a tool that must be used skillfully, and not lick your lips at the delta of deviations and pour slop on all cameras that do not fit the vision of several comrades.

      • Andrei

        :)

    • Roman

      Divine! You just killed me! This quality is just wonderful! These are the best of all the photos I saw in a week. Tell me, what should I pay attention to on such pictures, so right now, right?

      Here, at least someone takes pictures not with flowers, with flash and with processing?

      • Alexander

        Well, how about without trolls, even boring).
        Actually, this is a photo from stocks and they sell very well.
        I hope you also have examples of stock images except non-stop flood?
        There are flash and with processing and studio and catalog.
        But why spread them here? In general, I don’t need to prove anything to someone weakly) And what will they prove to whom? )

        The examples of the photos above are primarily for beginner amateurs. Here you can get such quality without processing, without puff and staging light, on a regular helios ($ 40) and on a regular 100mm 2.0 ($ 350).
        Of the features of 6D - a dense pure color, there is no "looseness" which is strongly noticeable on Nikons and there is no graininess of Sony Exmore matrices.

        • Roman

          What is the quality? I ask for studio photos or real photos not for show off. And for the sake of examples that this is bad. But this is good. And I want to see the FINAL product. That's what with this mega-super-duper color you can make SUCH an esthetic orgasm. And for comparison it is also desirable, and to show that here - it is impossible.

          I see a not very contrasting and not very saturated image of a flower. With the lack of detail in the lights. With some color there. Well, yes, quite even. But these pictures do not attract attention, do not inspire, I will pass them and I will not notice. There is nothing in them. Here you are describing something ephemeral, elusive, with an aspiration and a whistle. If I grimace before the newcomer, raising my eyes to T-st, he will send me away.

          • Alexander

            Roman, yes you are so special that it’s already scary. )))
            Here are the flowers above - they have been tested on the 3 most popular stocks and are selling well.
            Can you show at least something from your work?
            Or, apart from an uncontrollable verbal eruption, do you have anything to observe?
            Post your stock photos)) if you have at least one photo taken)))

            • Roman

              When will profiles with registration already appear in order not to answer everyone and everyone?

              I do not sell photographs, this will kill all interest in the hobby. Nate, see: https://500px.com/rkurbatov

              • Neo

                And where is the color? Where is the color in these photos?

              • Alexander

                it’s clear why he doesn’t sell. this is not for sale.
                it is not clear what he considers to be a good color and what is considered a good photograph in his understanding.
                Even the photo of Peter IMHO is more interesting. However, the taste and color, as they say ...

              • Roman

                Did he satisfy his curiosity?

            • Iskander

              I turn to Alexander and Arkady. It would be very interesting to write an article about stocks here, the pros and cons of different stocks, which is better sold, where it is easier to register, and so on. And it would be interesting to read the comments about the experience, see the portfolio of readers of Radozhiva.

              • Alexander

                Yes, writing in general is not a problem, in reality, earnings go up to a maximum of a dozen drains. Each has its own placement rules and a slightly different business model. IMHO, drains are more of a theme and shooting technique.
                It's hard to get a technically good shot on old trash, although something is possible. And the subject matter - landscapes, cats and sunsets, macro may simply not be accepted. All sorts of tourist places - prepare a copyright confirmation. People, children - copyright. Well, etc.

              • Alexander

                I have no statistics, but apparently there are very few photographers from Ukraine on the stocks. IMHO, two main reasons are the lack of modern technology and the lack of understanding of what buyers need for stock photos. Relatively speaking, if you have a d70 with a whale of 18-55 and you filmed something, while the color is not important to you (you are above this, as you know in the editor, everything can be corrected), you call soap softness and you confuse resolution with sharpness, then the chances are simply to place such photos on a popular stock are very close to zero.
                No offense, Roman is a good example. A person knows everything about a photo - absolutely everything, measures color distortions with a polaric puff and imatest, takes a lot of photographs using his boundless knowledge, but it is quite possible that not a single photo of him would be accepted into stock.
                And Peter's example is a very good idea, but the old technique frankly let us down. I will repeat - IMHO.

              • Iskander

                Alexander, one more question, more precisely, two. What do they often buy on stocks - multi-pixel photos with high resolution, or is it more expedient to reduce the size by cropping or interpolation, for example, from 18 to 6 megapixels with sharpening?
                Indeed, to post illustrations for a website or an advertising booklet or menu, huge permissions are not needed. Well, I think so.
                And second, which stock is the most convenient for a beginner, in terms of ease of registration and bloodlust of examiners?

              • Iskander

                But write an article. And I'll try to persuade Arkady.)

              • Roman

                This person has a hundred faces and all the photos are strangers.

      • Peter Sh.

        There you are!
        True, this is the Nikon D70s.
        How come out, one continuous friability.

        • Alexander

          Exactly. Halftones torn, posterization.

        • Alexander

          Peter Sh. Do you really not see color spots in your photo, very bad DD, torn edges of halftones and color transitions ??? And this despite the size of 0.5MP?
          Such a picture will not accept any stock - this is the most common technical defect due to the limitations of the matrix.

        • Alexander

          Here is 6D, do you see the difference in color, midtones, gradients?
          https://flic.kr/p/2h5XGNV
          shot on 24-35mm F2 DG HSM

        • Roman

          Looseness is the result of excessive processing. If you want to preserve the texture of the sky, do not try to pull it out of overexposure, do a multiple exposure with a tripod and then glue everything on the mask. There five stops pulled up from above, naturally it all climbed. Moreover, due to the unevenness of lighting, it generally went somewhere in the dark somewhere.

          Alexander, on your example, the processing is much less, but this is also not the best photo possible. The border from an attempt to pull the front posts out of the shadows is also not very good. It would be better if they had already remained black, as the eye sees them in such a situation.

          • Alexander

            This is not a result of processing, but a matrix problem. I got exactly the same on Nikon on different carcasses. And he climbs out immediately in the RAV.
            Exactly the same thing in double crop precisely because of the matrices. But there it chokes where it works.

        • Anonymous

          Here the photoshop is gross. For the sake of drama, it was screwed up extremely - byaka and climbed. If only Nikon crap. Kindergarten, by God.

        • Neo

          From an aesthetic point of view, very good, from a technical weak

          • Alexander

            right. The idea is good, no technique.
            and you won’t do anything here without changing technology. what Roman says is not realizable. It's like hanging a kenguryatnik, tires or alloy wheels from an SUV in an attempt to get an SUV.

        • Peter Sh.

          This is me in Topaz labs twisted sliders.
          In the landscape, I am a complete amateur, I certainly do not pretend to any drains there.
          The frame was completely spontaneous, the sun came out for an instant from behind the clouds and immediately hid. People at this time just hit the diagonal of the sun's beam. Then it started to rain and everyone fled from the beach. I couldn’t catch anything else there.

          Even if I had the best camera in the world, I certainly would not have taken it to the beach with me.
          Something like that.
          Here is the source frame.

          • Alexander

            Peter, I really liked the shot. Posterization and rough tonal transitions persisted in the RAV, as expected, these are matrix problems.
            I once received a couple of photos in a thunderstorm with exactly the same problems.
            I take any camera to the beach, why not? Even the D5100 is not afraid of sand.
            https://c.radikal.ru/c05/1909/3e/6cc916cb95af.jpg

            • Vitaly N

              Why didn't the shadows lighten a little? After all, I am sure that in reality you saw what is located on the right. Especially two crawling ...

            • Anonymous

              And Peter did not spread rav, do not be mistaken.

          • Vitaly N

            If not for the sun, there would be a great shot. Perhaps with CMOS it was possible to pull it out. Yes, and with him the picture is "live".

            • Peter Sh.

              The clouds are stormy, without the sun there was literally darkness.
              Blooming needs to be fixed, of course. I’ll just learn how to handle it.
              And you need to learn, of course. You can not justify the mediocrity of the quality of the picture by the fact that I'm supposedly an amateur and I do not rummage in your Photoshop.

              • Vitaly N

                I am not belittling your shot. The sun would not come out - there would be no ray. There would be a completely different picture. I don't use photoshop myself, I don't like to artificially edit. Blooming can be retouched in the standard Nikon's.

          • Vitaly N

            Blooming could be wiped. In the processed photo, he is very noticeable.

          • Arkady Shapoval

            Oh, I returned from filming, and there is already a stir in the comments.
            As for the picture, I think that the picture is 'alive', which is the most important thing. The rest of the shortcomings are no longer so significant, those who do not know about ssd blooming may not even notice it. The technical side for such images often does not play a significant role. Somewhere I saw the analysis of classic canvases of art through the eyes of modern photographers-gurus-pixel makers, this is a very humorous and informative sketch. The devil is in the details, who looks only in details, he does not see it in its entirety and sees only the conditional “blooming” and the conditional “elephant's leg”. Some photographs can only be viewed as a complete picture. Of course, the technical part of photography is also a part of it, but very, very, very often it does not carry aesthetic pleasure and joy. Everyone improves their skills in different ways, someone is looking for the perfect technique, someone for the perfect composition, someone for the perfect plot. Everyone has their own goals and methods of achieving them. A good photo is not just a high-resolution noiseless picture, it is filled with the right warm color. Disputes about technology will go away, the ardor of proving something will diminish, but whether good photos will grow out of this swamp - only time will tell.

            • Pokemon

              "Disputes about technology will go away, the ardor for proving something will diminish, but whether good photos will grow out of this swamp - only time will tell."
              Arkady, how do you want to present a bottle of 10 or 15 year old Armenian cognac, and even better to drink it with you :-)

            • Peter Sh.

              Thank you for the comment, Arkady.

            • Alexander

              Arkady, agree and disagree.
              here abroad photographers discussed the quality of work in gloss in the 80s.
              The venerable masters were published there and so on.
              So today, such a quality simply would not be accepted into the work. Absolutely.
              Times are changing, standards are changing.
              Therefore, for myself, for the house is one thing.
              Commerce is different. Moreover, the requirements of gloss and stocks often do not coincide.
              Who needs what, it's okay. If you want to make money abroad in a photo - these are the explanations about integrity, and no one needs anything else there.
              It all starts with basic technology and a basic level of quality. Too much competition.

              • Arkady Shapoval

                But what, was this photo for money? I would never have thought about it. But it is in the vein of photography as photography that it can quite appear.

          • Roman

            Peter, give an equal.

            • Peter Sh.

              He gave an equal, but the link is still on moderation.

            • Peter Sh.

              For some reason, the comment with a link to the rabbi was deleted ...

              • Arkady Shapoval

                Again. Sometimes comments with external links get moderated. While they will be well tested, they are not published. I delete only and only that which does not correspond these requirements.

        • Alexander Pivovar

          Peter, whoever tells you what, I would gladly hang such a photo in the living room. Artistically, it is beautiful.

          • Peter Sh.

            Thank you Alexander!

      • Neo

        I'm filming

      • Iskander

        I shoot “not flowers”. What I shoot - I won't show it, they will give it more ;-)

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Haha, classic.

  • Vladimir

    I did not know that you can put a focusing screen with wedges, can someone tell me which one is better, and where to buy?

    • Alexander

      This was done by several serious offices and a lot of nouns on ebay.
      Price from $ 20 to $ 100, there are 3 or 4 types.

  • Dmitriy

    I am the current owner of 6D, I want the second version) I am satisfied with the device, I bought a used car with 80K mileage, now it’s already 300K and so far there have been no problems, the only time it got in the rain, water got under the shutter button, the button was buggy, it dried out and everything was buzzing. The weak point is the gum on the case, they come off, many users also have it. Even if the shutter covers, you can change it and work on, but you want something new. This is my first FF after the crop from Canon, the difference is heaven and earth, so that they do not say that the difference is not great.

  • Koba

    I'll add a couple of points - I personally have used 6D and 5Dm3 for a long time. I will always recommend only 6D to everyone. The reasons are 1) a noticeably low level of banding when pulling out shadows, 2) a noticeably low level of noise at high ISOs, 3) much more sensitive autofocus in low light and during the day when you focus on dark objects. In short, the quality of photos is noticeably higher, especially at high ISO and with their deep processing. But in addition - 1) at a price of 5Dm3 (!!!), 2) much smaller and lighter. For one 5D3, you can take 2 6Ds at once and work with two lenses at the same time, and at the same time have two cameras if the shooting is very responsible in case of failure of one of them. You can put together a wonderful set - 2x 6D, Canon 20-35 / 2.8L (a chic wide-angle lens for $ 500), and on the second one you can put on a 70-200.4 IS (chic telephoto lens), as well as, in addition, any high-aperture fix based on the photographer's tasks (50/1,4 , 85 USM or 1.5 / 100 USM, or the wonderful Tokina 2.8 / 200 Macro for $ 6). Who needs video, please, full-frame video ... And lastly - 5D gives very good color, practically not inferior to 1D and XNUMXDs Markiii (!!!).

    • Alexander

      all right, but Mark 3 has two card slots, 100% OVI, much better ergonomics with a joystick, much better AF, 1/8000.
      So the conclusion is mixed. Although the release of 6D greatly reduced sales of brand 3.
      Well, on the other hand, the Canon 6D Mark 2 came out so bad in the picture that it turned out to be one of the weakest selling cameras from Kenon.

      • Max

        And you naturally shot at him.

  • Mark

    I'm using crop camera now. Tell me that it is better to buy a Canon 6D or Canon 6D Mark II, the price difference between them is 10 thousand UAH. If possible, the pros and cons of the 6D and 6D Mark II. thanks

    • Roman

      Of the key advantages - 45 focus points instead of 11 (more reliable, accurate and tenacious autofocus in the end), a rotary screen and more reliable dust and moisture protection. Focusing in video works much better thanks to DPAF. 60 frames per second - if you are a videographer.

      The remaining benefits are not very significant. If you need a relatively modern, but as cheap as possible full frame - 6D. If something abruptly, but on 5D IV is not enough - 6D Mark II.

    • Alexander

      The 6D Mark II is equipped with a new matrix that Kenon deliberately degraded to avoid competition with Mark 4.
      As a result, the matrix of 6D Mark II is significantly worse in all respects than that of 6D, including DD.
      Also, the 6D Mark II has a dual pixel system, which significantly improves AF in live view but significantly degrades color.
      Despite 6 points, the 45D Mark II phase AF is also often smeared, so I would not go into cycles on this.
      The 6D Mark II is such an unpopular camera that a representative of Kenon said in an interview that the company will no longer produce such.

      conclusion - if you need high-quality images - 6D.
      if AF in live view is important to you - 6D Mark II.

      • Roman

        Due to all of the above reasons, DxOmark placed the 6D Mark II sensor in fifth place (now in sixth, after the release of EOS R), and 6D - a couple of steps below. You did not agree with them in parrots.

        If high-quality images are important to someone, then you need to choose not a camera, but a photo school and constantly shoot.

        • Alexander

          Roman, you, as a sofa theorist without real pictures, read less about parrots in DRL, take a bigger camera in your hands)
          If you believe DxO, all Kenons in color miserably lose to other brands, D8xx Nikons do not differ in color and other fantastic things.
          I recommend to look at least here, if you don’t have cameras,
          https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3416153698/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-dynamic-range
          or here's a picture for you
          https://c.radikal.ru/c11/1909/b9/16535a3446af.jpg
          which shows that 6D Mark 2 went green on the skin, color spots and DD are cut by 1.5-2 steps relative to 6D.
          Hope this is obvious? ) Or, as usual, you just flood as a fan of synthetic parrots of the bankrupt DRL?
          Do you happen to not Polesov with a photo? He endured everyone’s brain while he bought 6DMark 2 and then tormented with her bad picture, he tortured everyone until he got rid of it)

          • Max

            Oh my God. Another amateur theorist DPremiew.

  • Michael R

    Can you find out the mileage of this camera by uploading photos to the site or do you need other methods? ?

    • Michael

      For this, the program was. Eos info was kind of called. On all modern canons, it’s possible to read the mileage without problems, although I can be wrong.

    • Michael

      Yes, mileage may not be written in the exis

    • Iskander

      EOS Info for some reason does not work for me. But the Canon EOS Digital INFO-v1.4 works great

  • Vyacheslav

    I own 6D for 6 years. I don't make money on photos, but I shoot often. I take her on all my travels, to work, on walks, etc. In view of my penchant for experimentation, I purchased a lot of non-autofocus lenses, using the tips of Arkady, whose site I have been browsing for 4 years already (many thanks for the hard work!). Year 2 to that I bought the top-end bodies of Canon 1D Mark IV, 1Ds Mark II, 1Ds Mark III for quite reasonable money. Now I can compare not by someone's photo, but based on personal experience. So, I can’t say anything bad about 6-ku, the device for my money (nowadays young and not used carcasses can be found for $ 600-800) is quite good. What I personally don't like is its color in some shooting modes, low rate of fire, small DD and a small number of focus points. You can argue a lot about the color, it is subjective. However, in comparison with its older brothers, the 6's color is still too unnatural. This is especially true for any shades of red. In comparison with the same 1Ds Mark II, the color of which I like the most, the 6 gives the result as from a camera phone - nature, flowers, architecture are excellent, but the colors of skin, clothing, wood are not that. Of course, you can edit in the editors, pull light from the shadows, paint over highlights and twist the skin tone, but this is already shamanism, and you want to get a ready-made picture from the camera that does not need to be processed. In general, I am ready to recommend 6 to all those who love and want to shoot, experiment with different lenses, try different subjects. I think the device will not disappoint.
    PS Photos from 6s on the Helios-44M-4 lens. Color slightly corrected, yellowed skin

    • Alexander

      Plus
      Canon 1D Mark IV, 1Ds Mark II, 1Ds Mark III, 5D Mark II matrices are one color.
      5В Mark 3, 6D - the color already differs not for the better due to a decrease in the thickness of the color filters to improve high ISO.

      • Oleg

        As for me, Alexander, the troll is more of you here than Roman =) who, by the way, gave in this thread a few comments above a link to your 500px profile, but you sprayed indignation with so much saliva that you apparently did not notice it. =)

        • Alexander

          You sprayed your indignation with so much saliva that you didn’t notice that I answered Roman a long time ago.

          • Oleg

            Well, let's play. You so saliva with indignation that you completely forgot about the existence of punctuation marks =)

          • Vitaly N

            Be honest - at the time of that post, you haven't written anything yet.

            • Vitaly N

              But no, they wrote in another place. It's bad that this is still not a forum. No binding posts to time.

              • Alexander

                well really :)
                and then Oleg was already splashed all in indignation exposing.

    • Anonymous

      Hmm, it remains to learn how to process ...
      From a smartphone it may be nothing, but on the monitor - soap. The skin is washed out by processing, there is nothing to catch the eye. The angle, that still ...

      • Vitaly N

        Just don't get carried away with open diaphragms. Sharpness in the middle of the face, but it doesn’t look very good.

      • Alexander

        look at skinton and people at the photo in the profile topic, everything is fine there.
        Here, just a very small depth of field with a not very successful transition to blur, and apparently there are questions about processing and BB.

      • Roman

        Yes, there are claims to everything, in fact. There is no sharpness, in the photo there is a set of randomly processed color spots. Given the randomness of processing, it is proposed to evaluate color accuracy and enjoy the uniqueness of color. How?

        Plus it's a very distracting spot in the bokeh above the crown.

        • Alexander

          Roman, you always know everything, you are rude to beginners, you are an expert on all types of cameras, on all technologies, on all types of processing, you are a fine connoisseur of synthetic parrots of a bankrupt DRL, are you likely to regularly hold your photo exhibitions in New York, Paris and Tokyo? Are your photos probably in the top sales of all stocks?

          Can you at least provide a couple for our admiration? )))
          If they exist of course ...

          • Roman

            Well, my. That tore you up.

            Tests without a comparison methodology are nothing. In general, there is not much correlation between the quality of the images and the technique. Just a wealthy photographer who shoots well, can afford more expensive equipment. But at times it’s better he won’t take it off.

            I am not rude to beginners and answer the most stupid and hackneyed questions, it's not difficult for me. Well, unless some evangelist comes and says something like: "You've been here for five years, idiots, haven't figured out that the focal length and aperture ratio on the crop change, so I brought you this valuable information."

            Well, or another stubborn apologist for COLOR-PLATFORM-CAMERA appears. Look at yourself (if you’re Alexander at all, and not Roman, who brazenly took my nickname, you won’t check it). You criticized the article (the old technique and not a review at all, but like that). They criticized the site (here amateurs and rogues). Accused Canon of fraud. They declared the creed and began the STEAM. EXPLODE. HANG LABELS. And rob KORONA (well, steal, kill and do indecency with geese).

            I am of the opinion of the moderate section of the public. Any technique is good. Literally any more or less 20-year-old DSLR allows you to create. Lenses - and XNUMX years ago, and even more with straight hands. Everything is limited not by the possibilities of technology, but by your imagination, technique and skills.

            There is a Pokémon here, whose opinion I respect. He collects different cameras, compares different technologies with each other (himself, and not by numbers) and gets fan from it. Yes, he is a lover of color, but he does not propagandize anything, does not impose and does not demand: “Well tell me, tell all the newcomers, tell them all that this model contains the MATRIX. But in that - some kind of garbage and generally unsuitable for filming. " Seryatina! Carrot! Colour! Colour! Abyrvalg! Do not do it this way.

            • Novel

              Alexander, let’s not see his pictures. This is a local troll, entertains everyone here.
              Recently, he exposed the synthetics of imatest and measured the distortions of polarians and puffs, today he rejoices in synthetics of DRL.

            • Vitaly N

              Roman, judging by the manner of the posts, this is the very Alexander who assured that the focal length is the distance from the lens to the matrix, and urged Arkady to ban those who do not believe in it. https://radojuva.com/2012/10/lens-mm/ , posts below. If this is really him, then gurus are such gurus ... By the way, Roman also noted there ...

            • Alexander

              that is, apart from verbal incontinence, you are not able to lay out anything?
              Well then, I will not read this incontinence.
              there will be at least some pictures of you except incontinence, it will be possible to talk about something.

              • Roman

                I already answered you with a link to my profile at 500px. But you are so busy running after my comments as your colleague Roman (who allows himself a free interpretation of any texts due to the impossibility of understanding their meaning) that you prefer to ignore this comment. Search for yourself now.

              • Alexander

                that is, there are no pictures. as expected.
                instead of one line of link - a page of verbal incontinence.

              • Neo

                Roman posted the pictures above, there are good ones, but the colors ... no, even at 5dm2

              • Roman

                Look in the subject, Alexander. Themselves. I have doubts about your cognitive abilities.

              • Neo

                https://500px.com/photo/308183389/No-title-by-Roman-Kurbatov
                Color, horizon, marriage. This can not be shown. But! But! It feels like trying on some pictures! And do not be shy, respect for this, and a sense of beauty will come with diligence!

              • Alexander

                Roman, above is my question about linking to your pictures. instead of a link - a page of written incontinence. Wasn't it lazy?

              • Neo

                In the comments above https://500px.com/rkurbatov

              • Roman

                Alexander, do you want to turn the entire Radozhiva feed into requests to give you a link and in my answers to you with a link? I protect your reputation, people may not understand it.

                Neo, why not? I spread everything I want, I don’t need to take off my weddings and sell on stocks too. :)

              • Alexander

                Yes, calm down, I have already answered you above. relax.
                Seriously, I recommend that you don’t even earn money, I get a maximum of $ 200 per month, and a photo to check your technique.
                A good stock makes you a check and selects 10 shots for start without technical defect.
                So you evaluate other people's pictures - and YOUR pictures will pass such an independent evaluation? )
                Here are mine - passed. And that was one of the reasons for changing the system - pictures from Kenon pass 8 out of 10 with minimal processing.
                Pictures from Nikon - 4 out of 10 and processing does not help.
                Although for a hobby, there probably is no difference.

                Therefore, your comments about the color and other comments mostly cause :)

              • Alexander

                Neo
                14.09.2019 in 19: 31
                https://500px.com/photo/308183389/No-title-by-Roman-Kurbatov
                Color, horizon, marriage. This can not be shown. But! But! It feels like trying on some pictures! And do not be shy, respect for this, and a sense of beauty will come with diligence!
                =====================
                it is not clear why, with such profound knowledge in everything, he has such a result and why, criticizing others, he does not apply these deepest and limitless knowledge in his photographs :)

              • Alexander

                Roman criticizes Vyacheslav
                Roman
                14.09.2019/17/16 at XNUMX:XNUMX Reply
                Yes, there are claims to everything, in fact. There is no sharpness, in the photo there is a set of randomly processed color spots. Given the randomness of processing, it is proposed to evaluate color accuracy and enjoy the uniqueness of color. How?
                Plus it's a very distracting spot in the bokeh above the crown.

                hmmm .. and spreads https://500px.com/photo/308183389/No-title-by-Roman-Kurbatov as a sample

                fiction…

              • Roman

                My bunny, wipe your blind eyes. I don’t post anything. You asked for a link to a photo - I gave you a link to my profile. You asked. It was not me who posted my photos as a sample of something there - colors, compositions, “look, oh, on the stocks it collected 100500 likes and dollars”.

                If we have reached the stage: “We are all adults, let's pull out and measure ourselves”, then you will now walk along my profile and look for something to pick on. Anything, even website font kerning.

                Moreover, Alexander, we obviously have different goals. You are postulating something and I am asking you for proof. I don’t want to rate your photography, I’m just asking for clear proofs at the level - here is a bad color, here is a good color. To be able to match. Some real examples of such photographs - real such, processed photographs, without excuses about “shot from a passing train without processing, flash, without removing the lens cap”. So that I can look and say: “Oh, yes, that's really the same, the dude says the truth - what color, how he immediately sets the mood of the photo, how immediately you want to like and put on your desktop”.

                No, you were just offended that I did not appreciate your religious ecstasy and did not agree that the 6D is the best camera (and there are a dozen of these fanatics here, each of whom has their own object of worship) and decided to go and rivet to something.

              • Arkady Shapoval

                Roman, your photos have a really bad color. This does not mean that the photographs themselves are bad, they are made in their own stylistic key, it is very clearly and distinctly traced through the tone component. Usually photographers who see good color at the same time and strive for it, but of course there are exceptions. Personally, my approach is simple - first you need to learn to get “classic” “correct” and “even” shots, and then give free rein to imagination and deviate from any canons, even if someone does not understand it. Beginners often hang on some kind of presets, so they can be immediately and reliably calculated, especially by acidic greens, blues, excessive contrast, ripped out channel mixing.

              • Roman

                Usually, Arkady. I don’t like the reliable color reproduction, I consider the photo not as a photo, but as a work and I am looking for style, therefore we have different goals.

              • Michael

                It is difficult to move away from the natural color, although many say that it is very important to do

        • Vyacheslav

          Roman, I didn’t urge to get high on color, on the contrary, I noted that there are claims to it. T about "random processing of bokeh specks" - this is not, there was no processing of bokeh at all. From the color editing - just move the "color balance" slider by 3 units towards blue to remove excessive yellowness. Shooting mode - standard, no presets, etc.

      • Vyacheslav

        If this is for me, then I did not post the photo as a model for admiring, but as a demonstration of the color of the 6-ki. This picture is without color processing. I see no reason to upload processed pictures and then talk about color from the camera

    • Andrei

      Tell me, I now have a 1ds mark 2, everything is as you say with the color perfect, but only in good lighting (my first penny was even better in the dark) - I’m thinking about getting a ds mark 3 or 6D. Is it worth changing to Mark 3 or is it better to take 6D as a second camera

      • Dmitry Kostin

        These are completely different class and level of cameras.
        6D has a strong advantage - fairly clean high working ISOs, up to 2500-3200.
        If you need a lightweight compact camera with high ISO performance, you should take a closer look at the 6D.

  • Sergei

    At one time, when my 7D ordered to live long, it was 5D 2 or 6D that intended to take. But a 1D m3 in excellent condition turned up under my arm and I bought it, a little impulsively of course. In general, I don’t regret it, but I haven’t tried the “magic of the full shot” ..)) Maybe in the future, like when a single hoof kicks back.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      1d is crop 1.3, or is it still 1ds m3?

      • Sergei

        1d miii with crop 1.3

  • Alexander

    subject, ISO 25600
    https://b.radikal.ru/b24/1909/8c/773bef0e10bc.jpg

    • Arkady Shapoval

      And this case is not one of those photos that were published on the network immediately after the release of 6d as part of the advertising campaign? I definitely remember the temple with a similar color and arch.

      • Roman

        This is the basilica in Quebec. It turned out very well to demonstrate the noise, the texture of the stone mixed with the texture of noise. Very interesting, the person accusing of divanism turned out to be a fake with schizophrenia.

    • Jury

      In the D750 comment thread, one of ten of your personalities posted the same photo, but under the guise of another subject and on another ISO :)
      Alexey
      27.11.2015/21/51 at XNUMX:XNUMX Reply
      Well here is an example of Kenon 5DMk3, there is no puff, ISO 12800
      lenses 16-35 / 4 IS L

      We must be more careful not to get confused in the testimony, you are our many-sided. It's time again about mirrorless cameras and the front - back focus to start filling. Here we burned to the fullest.

      • Arkady Shapoval

        I looked at the logs, confirm the diagnosis, measures taken. Thank you for your attention.

    • Ruslan

      Why are you stealing someone else's photos?
      This photo was taken by this author:
      http://vmirefoto.blogspot.com/2015/10/
      And it's done on the Canon 5D Mark 3 in conjunction with the Canon 16-35 / 4 IS USM L
      The author of the image did not indicate ISO, unfortunately. But it is clearly not 25600 here, as they wrote (stress can be put at your discretion) a little higher than you.

      And by the way, on the same page the author has a comparison in the forehead of the Canon 5D Mark 3 and Nikon D750, look through to the end, you will be very surprised :)

      • Vitaly N

        For the sake of the religion of the Great Skinton One Mark, you can both lie and steal. They are like tube lovers ... (insert whatever you like).

        • Roman

          Is that the point? This is some kind of disease. A man walked around, proved to everyone (and still goes under a different nickname, if I understand), puffed out his cheeks, squealed importantly. Frankly strangers or stolen pictures, a bunch of forums visited, some strange references to some other wrestlers. And for what?

          • Vitaly N

            Perhaps in order to assure himself that he had made the right choice.

  • Vertigo

    Were in our own use all the FF carcasses of kenon (except for just 6d and 6d2, but I played quite a lot of ravars from them, I have an impression) and reportage units with crop 1.3 ...
    According to the color separation parameter and the general perception of the picture, such a top-5 rating has developed:
    1d
    1dh
    1ds2
    1ds3
    5d4
    This is something that is truly original and at least interesting to study.
    Ess-but, theoretically, somewhere near 1dc2 you can put 5d, as well as with 1dc3 - 5d2, but ... there is not enough magic in the fives, and only the last 5d4 pleasantly surprised. If 1dc3 did not have red shadows, it would move one line up. The camera is actually excellent, and there is a difference from 5d2, and quite noticeable.
    Itself has now returned for the fifth time to the first dx, it is enough for the head both for creativity and for commerce. The second dx has a redrawn picture, it seemed that there are less nuances in transitions and midtones.
    A real gem is an ancient 1d with a 4MP SSD sensor from Panasonic (contrary to the idiotic opinions of miracle experts, there was no smell of Kodak, as in 1dc with its terrible green shadows and nuclear red, which knocks out at the slightest sun). This color Kenon never gave out again.
    Of course, out of the rating is the same Kodak sr, which, if possible, will definitely be bought again. He and also the M9 / M240 watering cans - for me so far the best cameras in 35mm digital in color.

    • Roman

      And where, by the way, information about the sensor of the unit? I found only Kieran Elson's blog, a quote from him on CanonRumors and citation needed on the Wiki page.

      • Vertigo

        Sensor 1d?
        English Wikipedia, an old review of the deep review and my own experience. In the first 1d, the matrix is ​​glued from two halves, the proof appears under certain conditions (more often in the shadows at high ISOs - the interface is visible exactly in the middle).
        About 1ds it was generally funny to read that there is a type of sensor from a kodak - kodak never made a kmop matrix to anyone due to the lack of development and appropriate equipment ... there was only a hardcore ssd))

        • Roman

          > In the first 1d, the matrix is ​​glued together from two halves, the proof appears under certain conditions (more often in the shadows at high ISO - you can see the interface exactly in the middle).

          That's interesting.

    • Michael

      Interesting opinion.
      And here I was interested in this moment:
      Looking through examples of photos from the new Canon 90d, I turned my attention to the color rendition of red.
      The Canon 90d is very strange in comparison with, for example, the Nikon d7100 (photo).
      Item 16 from the article "Reviewer Syndrome": The right color and good color are different things =)

  • SashOK

    Finally, at least some kind of review.
    And then all the same announcements, announcements ...

  • Oleg

    Another plus is rain protection, magnesium housing and GPS.

    • Novel

      Rain protection is weak, the case is partially magnesium partially plastic. Screen with a top layer of plastic, not glass.
      If you need something solidly made and protected, then this is mark 3.

      • Oleg

        Of course mark 3 is cooler in everything, but its price ...
        The pluses listed by me are the same.
        Plastic screen cover? I have a screen constantly under the protective glass.
        In rain and snow, the housing is protected against splashes / drops. Dip under water (to check) there is no special desire)))
        Plastic over the pentaprism is a compromise for the GPS antenna.

        Canon has no alternative to the affordable FF with relatively modern performance. You can pick up a mark 2 for the same money, but its condition will be depressing and the noise of the mark is inferior to the 6-ke. The first step is also for fans of "lamp color", but otherwise a very outdated carcass.

        • Novel

          So 6d is a great device, who argues.
          The picture is definitely better mark 3.
          Mark 2 in the picture is better, much better, we have already discussed many times - the payment for high ISO is a cut in color.
          As a result, there are 3 cameras with a roughly similar picture but different functionality, each takes what it needs.
          There are a lot of pyadvaks, you can find an untapped one.

        • Mark

          Oleg talking about 6-ke
          “There is no alternative within the Canon ranks of the affordable FF with relatively modern performance. You can pick up a mark 2 for the same money, but its condition will be depressing and the noise of the mark is inferior to the 6 ”

          You mean Canon 6D and not 6D Mark II, right?

          • Oleg

            6d of course

  • Imparopulo

    Friends, I need advice: I almost decided to take the Nikon D7500, but then I read the branch and now I think it's still better to take the old 6d? Have you used both of these cameras? If yes, please write about your impressions.

    • Ruslan

      Greetings! What is the purpose of the camera? Amateur shooting, reporting, studio, wedding bombing? Video? It is strange to compare these two cameras, one crop, the other FF, and even the systems are different. First, you need to decide on the brand, which will be closer in ergonomics: Nikon or Canon - and then dance from the genre of shooting

      • Imparopulo

        It's not about ergonomics. simply nikon d7500 is a modern camera with good autofocus, excellent exposure metering and good color. everything is good in her, but she is a crop. and 6d, on the contrary, is full frame but with shitty autofocus. The question is whether a fullframe will outweigh the advantages of the d7500 crop? Amateur goals - portraits, reportage and video needed.

        • Michael

          Depending on the goals. If you shoot calmly, staging, then a good AF is pleasant, but not necessary. If not for a small grip, volume, bokeh, then the crop is quite suitable. For photographing people and, if you buy lenses, and not use a whale, then Canon looks preferable

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