This record is more entertaining and informational in nature and is not aimed at inciting animosity between owners of telephones and SLR cameras.
Huawei P30 Pro VS Canon EOS 5D Mark IV, screen from the official presentation of the phone
March 26, 2019 the official announcement of the smartphone Huawei P30 Pro. Full presentation can be viewed here (watch cameras from 36 minutes).
The presentation can greatly surprise a non-savvy viewer. Personally, I remember some characteristics of the camera, especially comparing the maximum ISO sensitivity threshold Huawei P30 Pro с Canon EOS 5D Mark IVas well as some photos from the presentation.
Some properties:
- Maximum ISO 409.600
- 40 MP main camera
- Main camera aperture F/1.6, EGF 27 mm
- Using the RYYB Bayer pattern instead of the classic RGGB, it is stated that this significantly improves photosensitivity
- 1 / 1.7-inch sensor size, larger than many digital compact cameras, crop factor 4.55
- Some other other features, such as optical stabilization, depth of field sensor, one camera is designed as a periscope, etc.
The digital compact market is suffering a lot due to the introduction of the best and best cameras in mobile phones, as well as technologies related to image enhancement.
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40 MP in the phone with crop factor 4.55. My D700 is shedding tears looking at all this)
No, my Huawei Y6 is not a competitor to the canon 1100d. I don’t know how things are with the Yabloko people in this regard, but they will definitely eat the compacts. Yes, in principle, both the DSLR and UPC market hit well. Here you can recall the statement of the canon representative that the release of the UPC will not save the camera market from falling The ability to always have a camera in your pocket will satisfy most ordinary people, photography will be the lot of enthusiasts or professionals.
Photography is not only a quality picture. A rare shot taken on a smartphone can cost thousands of staged photos on a DSLR. I have long come to the conclusion that you need to have the most compact camera at hand, and a SLR for a leisurely photo of events, holidays, family, walks with the camera.
I regret one thing: that you can’t remove it with a blink of an eye
Google Glass for such invented, sort of. Points are removed, they don’t miss anything. Then you take your unique rare shot from the shot. And if it’s important for someone not to miss the moment, he can walk with a DVR (LOL) hanging on his neck. Maybe it’s even such a conceptual photo project.
Check out the movie "The circle". No LOL ...
Already possible. a couple of dozen bucks are Chinese glasses with a camera mounted. Yes, this is not google-glass, but you can always carry the camera with you and take pictures in an instant without wasting time on getting the phone.
Yes, but in the Russian Federation they plant
Photography, as it was the lot of enthusiasts or professionals, remained so for them, almost all the inhabitants of the planet just added and they satisfy their daily needs, without smartphones they didn’t have such an opportunity, practically nothing changed, and digital cameras made the photo affordable and cheap for more the number of photographers or non-photographers, that's all. Many people or children even start with a smartphone and then if they get seriously interested, they go on to real cameras or video recording. In fact, smartphones are even a kind of incentive to attract more and more young people to the world of photography. This is definitely good, since photographic equipment is also developing very quickly.
Totally agree with you.
Huawei has repeatedly caught hands on deceit. They uploaded photos taken supposedly by a smartphone, and then it turned out to be 5D :)
Like Nokia, well, where a pro with a DSLR is reflected on the details of a bicycle ... The world of big money and “decency” are not compatible concepts.
Doesn't the megapixel take the same, but the lens? Or not already?
Always a photographer took pictures, nothing has changed.
Duck there are watering lenses, and an inscription on half the phone that the watering can. Or is there something better than a watering can?
Watering can, by the way, is famous for mediocre resolution, but excellent plasticity. That is, if you attach the watering can to the crop, the result will be doubtful. And if on a mobile phone, then complete garbage
No need to run into Lake. My Panasonic ultrasound was bought 13 years ago with Leykovskaya optics: the fotik used sharpness to make many soap dishes.
I can not but plyusanut. LC 20 wonderful compact was for its time
Is the watering can plastic or glass?
Even in cheap soap dishes, glass, plastic only in toy cameras) it all depends on the quality of the glass
From Leica there is only an inscription, as usual.
1 / 1,7 ″ ?! Yes, damn it, already twelve years ago I shot Lumiksm with Luk's Vario-Elmarit, which has the same matrix ...
Take a look, now half of the budget soap boxes have even less than 1 / 2.3. About 12 years ago I shot a full frame, so what?
Not like that, or is there also 50 megs and half a lyama?
By the way, Mark 4, according to DXO Mark tests, has a sensitivity of 2995, determined by the formula noise-signal 30 dB without noise reduction. Everything that is above - with excessive noises and dd. This is a good indicator at the level of the best cameras.
Here here at 3.25 there is how it works in the dark on iso 200.000. For housewives, this is a very tasty offer :)
ISO of such high values is pure marketing. It’s rare who needs it. For example, the same Pentax KP has 100-819200 and so what?
Not everything is so simple. High image quality is expected and even required from “large” cameras, even at high ISOs. Such image quality is not required from phones, there is enough for resizing and mediocre quality. This mediocre quality is achieved at high ISO, while it greatly simplifies the life of the user. We shoot half a million on ISO, downscale 40 MP to 1 MP and get an acceptable result for all kinds of social implementations.
“The digital compact market is hit hard by the adoption of better and better cameras and image enhancement technologies in mobile phones.”
For a long time I was surprised at the prices of Canon G10-11-12, Nikon P7100-7700 at a few hundred $. They cost as budget mirrors of these manufacturers.
And such pornography and swamp have been for years at Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, Casio, Olympus.
For years, they've been doing soapy, noisy shit with a bunch of megapixels, setting idiotic price tags and never developed a matrix.
The last stone for me was the release of Nokia 808 Pureview and Nokia 1020 Lumia, which I kept for myself and occasionally shoot on them.
The sting of the soap dish manufacturers, and the mirror, who did NOT want to add the BSi and GPS for a long time. Nikon generally asked for his ridiculous stray GP1 blotch for $ 250 for a long time, although the GPS old woman costs centers and is set to $ 100 for Chinese androidphones. So it’s their own fault that they pissed off the soap dish market and themselves are guilty that their income is falling.
Sorry T9 squint (
About the way it is. While the phones go out of their way and come up with a bunch of different chips, the Central Control Commission and the Central Control Commission are barely able to switch to BSI.
Great quality! Sharpness rings. True, a big flu betrays that this is something with a small matrix.
I totally agree that this is how natural selection works - dinosaurs in a museum.
The phrase about the market, of course, is ingenious, especially considering that the main signs of the market are the freedom of action of the participants and competition.
Well, that's nice. Let the pop singers continue to take pictures on their phones, and we, stern oldfags, will continue to take pictures with the good old kilogram male CZK =). Less people - more oxygen, as they say.
If only there was any sense :)
Answering in social networks, I dropped the link to the samples from pixel 2, some are very good, for those who are interested - take a look here.
Tempter :)
Very, very not bad removes.
I even wanted to throw out my nikon and leave the pixel. The main thing is always at hand and on any beach or excursion without any problems - click and you're done.
And no lightrooms or C1 to you. Immediately frame, immediately send it even where.
And in the case of Google, there is completely free storage.
Huawei recently convinced once again that the photos allegedly taken from this smartphone were actually taken by prof. DSLR. For a long time I do not believe narrow-eyed. Yes, smartphones are evolving, but the laws of physics have not changed yet.
Alleluia!
... The digital compact market is hit hard by the introduction of better and better cameras into mobile phones ...
It is difficult to call it suffering, rather, the last dying convulsions.
It is interesting to look at a wedding photographer with a smartphone)))
My daughters (12 and 18 years old) have a lot of professional, studio and not only photos, but they prefer to upload them on social networks from their phones and this suits them perfectly. And those times, when it used to happen, you come back from a wedding, all exhausted, and then my daughter from the doorway meets and pulls along, says, let's go, I looked at the place here, take a picture, I need to update my VK, urgently needs to be done - it's long gone. Soon weddings will be filmed on phones
What do you mean soon? In the registry offices, one can hear more and more often “yes we are on the phone”, especially with regard to video :)
I can't even tell you how much ... don't give a fuck
It’s especially cool when in advertising smartphones they use images received on a professional camera, claiming that it was shot on a phone. They themselves do not believe in their invention. The usual customer divorce is $ 800-1200 for a super device.
Everything is clear there, in this presentation. I have been writing as a living person in China for the 13th year. Look - the presentation shows a phone with the best image quality at the moment. Personally, I compared the image with it to the latest iPhone. Surprisingly, this phone is far ahead of it in terms of image quality, and also gives an image without micro-processing and dirt, although the matrix in it is much larger, and this is the secret. The second part is also clear - China is better than Japan, this is for the domestic market, and those buyers who will never buy a large camera to satisfy their thoughts. formal advantages are used, on paper, and it's up to the marketing department. By the way, the company recently got caught on the fact that it used files just shot on Canon 5d4 in advertising, from this it follows that the company has such a camera, and it is not surprising if anyone has been near the Huawei plant in Shenzhen (and this a whole city in a city, super-modern production, some people whom I took there even did not believe that such a plant in the world could exist how wonderful everything is there and even something and - the field of fantastic films, in a word, I recommend everyone to watch it (inside will be allowed, just bypass it, in an hour or two, on foot) if they get to Shenzhen).
And where are the live full-size samples of high ISO stopitzot ++ units? Only not on 5Dm4 shot in the style of a huyaveya, but independent testing. No matter how many where I didn’t look for / did not ask the observers, all eyes bashfully shy away
Considering that the phone was announced only the day before yesterday, there are simply no samples due to the novelty of the product.
This is true, but if you look at it from the economic point of view, then for the time being the Central Federal District is out of competition, especially in the secondary market. Boo. first-timer + 50 1.4 are half the top flagship, but the quality can not be compared.
Although on Instagram, the quality is squeezing so that ordinary users almost do not notice the difference.
And in a different form now the photos are practically not used :(
“The market for digital compacts suffers greatly because of ...” - no, his suffering has already ended and his soul has long been in paradise.
Matrices with a size of 1,7 "are already in phones, optical stabilization, dust and moisture protection (and some declare immersion up to 5m), a screen that does not shine on more than one compact, and soon the built-in ultra-thin optical zoom, patents for which have already been announced. You will want something more - attachments to your smartphone, including wireless ones, are countless.
We are waiting for full-frame smartphones)))
We are waiting for a popcorn photo on ISO 409600 :)
After ISO 3.276.800, it’s time to save your eyes with five, otherwise you can get photoepilepsy :)
I watched the video presentation, remembered youth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5LW07FTJbI
My D7500 has 1,5kk max ISO))) It is steeper than the 4th penny ...
What a nafig 7500…. What does the first guy with fifty dollars have to do with it? You read here and realize that the Mohicans really have brain cancer.
10 years ago, everyone was on a button without YouTube on nothing else live film. After 10 there will be projectors and so on - we watch new movies)
Naha # but generally compare with a finger? Novelties of progress with stages in the development of glass?
Which is better - fluorite FL or the new 2.0 zoomed zoom? Or a future phone with 50 megabytes? # These are different eras. This is the development of humanity. That cannot be stopped. Whatever # you write here together.
And more ... In the 90s, a person with betasp was a king and a god at the same time. In the two thousandth dv boldly in a few years)
About Labukhs at weddings ... Now those who want a story and have it filmed multi-camera on the TCP. The rest is already coped with the phone - it's true). In a very short time, wedding videos will be the same history as a fotika of the early 20th century with its table-sized pieces of wood.
What should I do. Progress
Progress is progress, but craps are still musicians, not videographers.
Your cap.
Sometimes you talk to a person, and the truth is, it would be better to drink and smoke. And it would be more honest not to smoke more often. But ... This is already a heavenly office.
And about Karl - it's generalized, my friend! Although Vasyanov himself - Furik and so on - treats his work as a craft. Xs where is the truth.