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  1. B. R. P.
    18.10.2018

    An interesting idea is to review the film camera. Thanks.

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  2. Sergei
    18.10.2018

    Good review.
    The old horse does not spoil the furrow)))

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  3. Alexander
    18.10.2018

    Tell me, what kind of glue can patch the curtains? FED-5V uncovered just a couple of weeks ago, but the images turned out to be corrupted, about 30% of the frame was illuminated. The same DCSs are not taken for repair, they said that they would only use FED and FED-2 as the highest quality.

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    • anonym
      18.10.2018

      Polyurethane, rubber ...

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    • Victor Drozd
      19.10.2018

      Alexander, If the shutter curtains are perforated, then all the frames you have taken will be exposed. If, as you write, 30% means a malfunction in another ... it happens, from a long pause in work, improper conditions of maintenance (storage) of the FA, solidification occurs, or complete drying of the lubricant, which has a negative effect on the very course of the shutter curtains during the actuation ... In short, you need to make the correct diagnosis.

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      • Alexander
        21.10.2018

        Victor, it’s a leaky curtain with cocked shutter. The shape of the flare coincides with the shape of the hole, the shape of the hole was determined by looking through the curtains at the lantern.

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      • Alexander
        21.10.2018

        and I’ll specify 30% of the area of ​​each frame, and not the number of frames

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  4. Alexey
    18.10.2018

    Pictures from the 60s ...

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    • Andrei
      19.10.2018

      Well, what kind of technique, such and pictures.

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  5. NE
    18.10.2018

    The viewfinder, I remember, was still dark in my FED-5V ... But the cases are cool for FEDs. Brown, made of genuine leather. For fujiks, they do something similar, but they stand like a lens and do not provide for the entire camera to be packed.

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    • NE
      18.10.2018

      However, probably all cases for Soviet cameras were made of genuine leather. Even a soft case for FED-Micron

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      • Dmitriy
        18.10.2018

        Not at all. Even the same FED-5 of later releases had black hard dermatin covers.

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      • anonym
        21.10.2018

        The older the camera, the better and more beautiful leather case he had. Cameras of the late 40s and up to probably the sixties were with the very best trunks. The leather in them was VERY high quality, thick, with embossing, volumetric execution of parts of the wardrobe trunk, additional lining layers of leather inside so that the shape remains unchanged, with an abundance of chrome-plated metal overlays and with a beautiful and practical interior decoration with high-quality suede in very beautiful colors! Awesome trunks were. And they went as standard to each camera. Now we can only dream of such a thing ... (Rare and VERY expensive cameras currently have trunks of a similar quality, and that's not all! And they are still VERY expensive and are sold as an option.)

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  6. Oleg
    18.10.2018

    Thank you very informative

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  7. Sergei
    18.10.2018

    Thanks for the review! A photograph is a captured moment, and a camera is a keeper of such moments, with its own character. In this review, I again saw his wonderful character and special thanks to Jupiter! :)

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  8. Dmitriy
    18.10.2018

    With regard to optics, there is a serious remark: tube lenses of the i-22 or i-50 type on the FED-5 can NOT be used. They cling to the latch button and draw a furrow along the body. I would advise Rodion to check first, and then write.
    And second: relatively leyches - you will screw them on, but you will not ensure the accuracy of the rangefinder, because the rangefinder cam has a different stroke for Soviet lenses and for German ones. who does not believe - ask on the "Rangefinder" - popularly explain.

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    • Rodion
      18.10.2018

      Thanks for the information.

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  9. ñ
    18.10.2018

    disagree with the author about "easy"
    it’s easy with a shift of 8, but fades (and especially exposure meters) are intimate and require minimal knowledge before buying.

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    • Rodion
      18.10.2018

      Do you take a lot without the minimum knowledge of the notorious bare shift take something?)

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      • ñ
        19.10.2018

        a lot, taking into account the message of the article "acquaintance". And after such an acquaintance, you can think about a normal technique.

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      • BB
        25.04.2019

        And then what? - everything is in pictograms - both at the focusing distance and on the exposure scale - the sun, a cloud, etc., the diaphragm - so that is generally set 'according to the film sensitivity (at least on my “Change 8m” it was like that. taking into account the huge depth of field, and DD film (especially b / w), you still need to try to mess up the frame. The only drawback of the camera is the ability to re-expose the frame without rewinding the film (that's why I took it as a rule “clicked the frame, and immediately rewound”). noticeably higher than the cheap '90s' soap boxes Great camera for beginners.

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      • Michael
        25.04.2019

        A terrible device, even if you omit the jambs of my copy. True, after him the eye became well trained, either according to the distance estimate or the choice of the expo-pair. It was, of course, difficult to mess up the frame - you can always stretch the frame when printing, but I didn't have really good frames from it - only by squeezing out Zenith from Batey began to get really successful photos with good sharpness and always with a normal negative density

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      • BB
        25.04.2019

        I shot a little on Smena - the first 3-4 films, then they entrusted me with the parent Kiev-4. But there was no more than 10% of these films of a frank marriage (in terms of the density of negative and sharpness). Then, later, a few more b / w films were filmed, when there was a color

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    • First Substation
      25.04.2019

      1995, grade 5, photo business. Everyone has shift-8, only for some reason I have a FED-3 batin. Nothing intimate at all, only the superiority of having a rangefinder. Of course there was no light meter and the teacher gave us all the exposure lenses.

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  10. Michael
    18.10.2018

    I saw the title and immediately realized who the author was)) Thank you

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    • Rodion
      18.10.2018

      Well, like yes, it really says there)

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      • Michael
        18.10.2018

        It is written a little lower)

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  11. Alexey
    18.10.2018

    Thanks for the review. All my childhood was shot by my father on FED-5.

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  12. zengarden
    18.10.2018

    Good visibility, warm lamp :) once I shot kilometers of film on my father's FED-2 with an I-26m lens.
    It’s just not clear why you need to change the shutter speed only with the cocked shutter; Or is it a feature of the FED-5?

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    • Rodion
      18.10.2018

      Because changing the shutter speed when the shutter is not cocked breaks hopelessly changing the shutter speeds on FED-3 - FED-5 cameras. Just at the second FED, it seemed that it was not even important.
      The cameras Kiev, Zorkiy also have this bug. The Zeniths do not have it.

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      • Dmitriy
        18.10.2018

        This does not break the shutter, it's just that the design does not allow you to set the shutter speed correctly - you don't know what you are setting with the shutter uncocked. Moreover, in the earliest FED-3s with practically the same shutter, the shutter speed head allowed setting the shutter speed before and after cocking, it just turned out to be not very convenient - you will not get to the desired value due to the small distances between the values, and this design was abandoned.
        This is not a "bug" at all, but a design feature. This time.
        And second: Did you even hold a rangefinder in your hands, Rodion, before writing this? On any rangefinder Kiev, setting the shutter speed is permissible both before and after platoon. As for the Vigilants, the shutter speed before platoon can be set on Zorky-S, Zorky-2s, Zorky-5, Zorky-6.

        Maybe we will not write about what we do not understand at all?

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      • Dmitriy
        18.10.2018

        You can break the shutter speed setting mechanism only if you have a lot of dope in your head, if you start twisting the shutter speed head through force and twist the anchor moderator. But this can be done sooner on Zorkiy-4 than on FED-5; on FED, everything is easier and more reliable done.
        By the way, to adjust the Zorky rangefinder, you just need to unscrew one screw on the front panel, if we are talking about Zorkom-4, for example, or Zorkom-6. Here in Kiev, yes, there you need to disassemble half of the camera, but to get into the mechanism of the rangefinder Kiev without much experience in repairing cameras means simply ruining the device. Believe me, I have been repairing old cameras for more than 10 years.

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      • Rodion
        18.10.2018

        Thanks for the valuable comments))) If you corrected the shortcomings and omissions in a lighter tone, it would be a little more constructive. Or go to the Rangefinder.
        I held different cameras in my hands (almost all of the above), but among the serviceable ones for which the rule just works - Zorkiy-4, FEDs> 4. Kiev, too, was and is, but half-functioning.
        Yes, I’m not sure about the old cameras, I’ve not been repairing them for 10 years. However, the written harm is not harmful to anyone and only teaches greater caution in dealing with ancient devices.

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      • koba
        19.10.2018

        And can I once again draw the attention of readers to the tone of some messages. I still cannot understand why, when correcting some mistakes, those who correct or see shortcomings or mistakes, Saruz switch to an offensive tone, or come very close to them? Is it really impossible to move on to constructive criticism or help? Is it really difficult to say that I'm sorry, but here you have a mistake, but this and that would be correct ... Suppose a person made a mistake, from ignorance or by accident, or wrote Nikkor series E instead of Nikon Series E, is it possible to just correct the error, respond in a favorable manner without swearing? Personally, it never even occurs to me to write in such a tone, but very often I see it here, unfortunately ...

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      • Victor Drozd
        19.10.2018

        Koba, photographers, for the most part, the people are rude and often illiterate. Hence - all the problems in communication.

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        19.10.2018

        In Western forums, just the users are very polite, it is very nice to read any of their controversy. Most likely it is not a matter of a person’s belonging to photography or working as a photographer.

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      • koba
        20.10.2018

        I don’t know about literacy, but I’m not saying anything about the words with which they sometimes spoke about the reviews of Arkady himself. A person works, gives the results of this work openly, for free, there are practically few sites (and there are not many sites in Russian!), Where real reviews of old lenses, new ones too, and cameras are collected and continue to be collected, and now someone will find where- then the inaccuracy or the way even a mistake and all, at once to the death penalty. It is also sometimes surprising that some readers “pay” attention to photos in reviews with comments like “the photo is not so hot”! Should reviewers always publish masterpieces here? These are mostly reviews of the technical aspects of lenses or cameras? Well, Arkady gives his subjective opinion. And he was so obviously tired of the absence of a simple “Thank you” for this, that recently, as I noticed, he stopped publishing his subjective opinion at all ... Now imagine that there is no such site, yes, the world will not collapse, but ... but ...

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        20.10.2018

        C'mon, I publish reviews just as I have free time. All the errors in my reviews I immediately correct, if only the commenter could find it :).
        Rodion, on the other hand, makes his reviews with a completely different approach and a different paradigm. In reviews, you should always "remember" one single rule - "Anonymous is always right"

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      • Sasha Sanek
        19.10.2018

        Yes, that anonym in the previous article is inadequate simply. I could not pass by some little things.

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      • anonym
        19.10.2018

        Catarct or glaucoma? Please reread. I did not use swearing, but specified it in an interrogative tone. If you and Sansanych have a suspicious character, then I can do nothing. In fact, he could not get past my text and “wound up” with half a turn and began to insult me.

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      • Rodion
        18.10.2018

        If you have a surplus of knowledge and experience, why not present it in a form popular and accessible to a wide range of people? What should you do it? Then amateurs in the field of rangefinder cameras like me would not have written any, as you say, lies and nonsense.
        No one will read the “rangefinder” club for the sake of “figuring out how this thing from the closet works” - nothing is more disgusting than smoking forums (and especially photo forums). Not every camera has original instructions on the net, sometimes they are not very transparent.

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  13. anonym
    19.10.2018

    Thanks for the review Rodion! As a child, I learned to shoot on this particular camera, and on b / w Svema film. Straight nostalgia ... In the photo Neskuchny garden?)))

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    • Rodion
      19.10.2018

      Yes, my beloved Neskuchny.

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  14. anonym
    19.10.2018

    So, it is unnecessary, as an amateur, to write articles about rangefinders. No one will read comments over time, and the review with gross errors will remain. Or am I wrong.

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  15. Ksenia
    19.10.2018

    thanks for the review !!! I have a FED-55, took note of a couple of things))

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  16. Boris
    19.10.2018

    Interestingly, and in what format was the film scanned? If there was a scan processing after the photolab, how flexible are the files in processing?

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  17. Stanislas
    19.10.2018

    Thank you so much Rodion!
    My dad has filmed all my childhood on this camera.
    Himself, as an amateur, began with this camera. By the way, she is still working and in good condition.
    I really liked the photos in the review. So warm, lamp and soulful.
    Eh, nostalgia ...

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  18. Konstantin
    19.10.2018

    I don’t know, someone might like film style, but the photos from the example look like a cheap smart + vintage filter in any editor.

    Some colors are oversaturated, some are lost. Detailing of the porridge level.

    Yes, in the form of a historical exhibit it’s cool, but to shoot it?

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    • Rodion
      19.10.2018

      What to expect from the cheapest color film?

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      • Konstantin
        19.10.2018

        And you can ask - how much is cheap? I found about $ 4 on the Internet, right? And how much is dear?

        I wonder how much it will cost to take, for example, a walk with a child, where from 150-200 shots, it successfully turns out to catch only 20-30?

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      • Michael
        19.10.2018

        A normal Kodak Portra costs 600-700 eternal woods - that's 36 frames. Then multiply by the required amount) It's just that nobody scribbles on the film, but they try to verify the frames. So the success rate is usually higher.

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      • Volodymyr
        04.02.2019

        200 frames? what for? who will watch this bunch of duplicates

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    • Peter Sh.
      19.10.2018

      This is a feature of scanning film negatives.
      For normal quality, expensive drum scanners are needed (it seems so they are called). Not all labs can allow them.
      If you print it as it should, with the amplifier, the quality will be completely different.

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      • Alex
        28.10.2018

        The drum scanner, well, perfectly, perfectly. Ale nadlishkovo. The slide module for the flatbed scanner needs to be secured, if properly adjusted, on the contrary and more accurately read the information slide. (Epson V600, V550, skinny). You can buy an okremiy scanner for swims on a flea market without problems і, navіt, inexpensively. Here the right author will take a look: it’s important that you want to see the cheapest spills, prices, and the results of the process.

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      • Peter Sh.
        29.10.2018

        In general, the old Nikon film scanners (Coolscan seems) the quality is not much worse than the drum. And much better than the same Epson V800. Yes, and they are now like a tablet, probably.

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    • Photo Dad
      25.04.2019

      What are you talking about? It's like comparing a car to a bicycle. Why do people ride a bike if there are cars? In a car it is more comfortable, faster, easier ... But a bicycle is needed primarily for the soul and pleasure. I usually shoot with a modern Sonya, but for the soul, in artistic impulses, I shoot on film. And I have three devices for this, and all three are vintage manuals. And I often shoot on black and white film. Film photography does not require quality in the modern sense. And to compare with a figure is not at all correct ...

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  19. Peter Sh.
    19.10.2018

    Rodion, why don’t you take up the medium format?
    I myself, but there is no catastrophic time. And you, waeren, will succeed.
    Something like this FED, inexpensive.
    Yes, in the parks at sunset it is better to take pictures, do not forget.)

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  20. Maksim
    19.10.2018

    200 frames with walks with children? Buy sob_ video camera. More corridor.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      19.10.2018

      In fact, 200 frames these days is very, very small. Especially if you shoot a session with children

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      • Michael
        19.10.2018

        It is visible to everyone in different ways. I have a maximum of 80 frames per day, I can see the film past)

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  21. Hermann
    19.10.2018

    Thank you, Rodion, for the review, this is awesome and, as you can see, we all have many pleasant memories! I immediately remembered my father’s FED with a telescopic lens; it looks like a Lake. And yes, the film was inserted through them, it was terribly inconvenient, but it turned out! After this, loading through the rear hinged lid is simply the top of ergonomics! Go on, Rodion, it works great!

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  22. Vladimir
    19.10.2018

    I draw your attention to the accuracy, because I myself actively use the rangefinder FED 5 and Kiev 4a. All Soviet-made m39s have a bug - this is not the correspondence of one objective to another. That is, the rangefinder is set up correctly (this is a separate and rather complicated device), the aiming distance is appropriate, but the lens itself is not correctly adjusted. And then the regulation is either on frosted glass or with an autocollimator. In short, there may be a big problem. In addition, FED5 is very dark relative to Kiev and foreigners (viewfinder). In Kiev, everything is simpler because the focusing mechanism and the rangefinder are integrated in the camera body.
    But overall I liked the review обзор

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  23. Vladimir
    19.10.2018

    I will also add to the account of optics. M39 comes from the USSR and, for example, Leukovskaya is not interchangeable. Only with good alignment can they be installed. At the expense of shirikov and 50-ok, on rangefinders they are of better quality and are less prone to various distortions (if you believe foreign sites) due to small working sections. But with lenses more than 85x, the complexity of operation is, the greater the focal length, the larger the rangefinder base should be for aiming accuracy ... But that's another story.
    By the way, author, please indicate in the review of the variation of the fad 5 of 3 pieces, the differences are not large, but there are.

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  24. Adon
    21.10.2018

    Zo review, thanks, but something does not pull me to start acquaintance with the "vintage" film technique. On a kraynyak I would try something like Minolta 7000, which you can take for 500 UAH for olkh.

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    • B. R. P.
      21.10.2018

      If there is Minoltov optics, then yes.

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  25. Dmitriy
    22.10.2018

    the review has a lot of subjective, but the film is now an amateur thing, so some liberties are permissible. couple of comments from personal experience
    1. repair of blinds with glue. if the curtains began to crumble, this is unlikely to make the camera reliable. putty in one place, but the rubber coating has dried up everywhere and during operation can crumble at any time and in any other place.
    2. In the title picture, a fad without a light meter, and a model with a light meter is described.
    3. From personal experience, vigilant 4 and vigilant 6 were much better than feds (all), vigilant had the main advantage - a gorgeous bright viewfinder. Vigilant 6 has an ultra-precise rangefinder (due to its long, like Kiev 4 bases) plus a compact body and an equally bright viewfinder. with a tube industar 50 (they didn't go to a fed 5 at all), a sharp-sighted 6 could be carried in a pants pocket.
    4. practical advice: if you charge the camera in the dark, you can get 36-38 frames on a standard film (39 frames).
    5. to use the full potential of rangefinders, it is better to use an external Sverdlovsk exposure meter 4. selenium photocells are capricious and insensitive, and Sverdlovsk allows you to determine the correct exposure in almost any light.

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    • Rodion
      22.10.2018

      Point 2 is a blatant lie. In the photo, the title is the one fed-5, which I shot. And he has a light meter - turn the focus on the gray window to the left of the rangefinder. The FED-5 and FED-5S are generally equipped with an exronometer, but the FED-5V is a simplified model without an exposure meter.

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    • Dmitriy
      29.10.2018

      As a person who gave a dozen years of his life to repair, I want to fix it according to claim 3.
      The only plus of the 4th Zorkiy is the magnification of the viewfinder, which, however, is leveled by the short base of the rangefinder and the diopter lever that constantly gets lost.
      And in terms of the reliability of the FED, especially the third models, it is a cut above. That there is only a "jump" of the bolt head, and this is precisely a design flaw. I also can't say anything good about the trigger platoon on models 4-5-6 from KMZ, the design of the FED is more thoughtful.
      The compactness of "Zorky-6"? Excuse me, do you confuse it with the 5th, which has a thinner body?
      The brightness of the viewfinder largely depends on the storage / operating conditions, dampness, humidity lead to darkening of the beam splitting layer of the main prism.
      And about the sock in your pocket. For several years he wore a set of FED-3 (hammerless) + I-22 “drowned man” in it.

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