Rangefinder lens Industar-22 1: 3,5 F = 50mm P (KMZ), adapted for the M42. Review from the reader Radozhiva

Overview of the Industar-22 lens 1: 3,5 F = 50mm P (KMZ) and examples of photos from it specifically for Radozhiva, prepared Rodion Eshmakov.

View of adapted lens

View of adapted lens

An overview of this version of Industar-22 in a fully authentic form is already on the site here... This review is devoted to a sample adapted for full use on SLR cameras.

Characteristics of Industar-22 (taken from here):
Exact focal length: 51,39 mm
Relative Hole: 1: 3,5
Optical design: Tessar (4 lenses in 3 groups), view.
Aperture: 8 blades
MDF (after adaptation): 0,5 m (without stopper) or 1 m (with stopper)
Filter thread: none
Fit for smooth nozzles: 27 mm
Resolution (center / edge): 32/22 lin / mm
Weight (before adaptation): 80 g

Features of adaptation and constructive Industar-22

My lens looks very tired, but its optics are in very good condition - and this is the main thing that led to its acquisition. However, from intensive use, the lens remained almost without nickel, and also lost its latch in the “infinity” position.

Industar-22 in a folding version is interesting for its insignificant dimensions and weight. Initially, it does not fit SLR cameras, as the tube catches the mirror when trying to focus at infinity by folding the lens barrel. To adapt the lens, it is only necessary to remove the lens block (by unscrewing the nut from the side of the tail) and cut off the “excess” from the back of the tube, and then fix it rigidly in a position in which focusing to infinity is achieved. This lens was redone by me in 15 minutes. Only I-50 for rangefinder cameras is “redone” faster.

Rear view after adaptation

Rear view after adaptation

The disadvantage of the lens is large for a fifty-fifty MDF - 1 m. If you unscrew one stopper, which was done, then the MDF is about half a meter. In this case, the lens makes 1 full revolution.

At infinity

At infinity

On MDF (twisted by 1 revolution)

On MDF (twisted by 1 revolution)

Another disadvantage is the aperture control, which is very inconvenient. the tiny adjustment ring is on the front and it's too close to the lenses. The lens aperture itself is eight-blade, black, shiny.

Aperture Industar-22

Aperture Industar-22

We can conclude - the lens is not the most convenient, but it is incredibly light and very small.

Optical properties of Industar-22

Industar-22 - a fifty dollars, not having a high aperture. It has a large depth of field on an open aperture and it is very easy and convenient for them to focus - the number of misses is small. The Industar-22 in the picture strongly resembles the more advanced I-50 and differs only in the worst correction of aberrations.

The lens has good center sharpness with F / 3.5 (although it is softer than the I-50). To achieve field sharpness, the aperture must be clamped to F / 8. Resolution is limited by longitudinal chromatism, coma and astigmatism.

The contrast under normal conditions at Industar-22 is not bad, but a veil and “sunny rain” appear in the backlight. Color rendering is a little warm, almost natural.

Bokeh Industar-22 resembles the bokeh of the more common I-50 (logical) - there is a slight swirl of the background, sometimes "pea" appears - when the out-of-focus circle has a point in the center. Also, spherochromatism is manifested - colored borders of circles of confusion.

The optical quality of the lens does not shine, but it cannot be called bad either - it is quite possible to achieve pleasant looking photos from it.

Conclusions

The folding version of Industar-22 after a completely elementary adaptation for SLR cameras becomes a small, unusual-looking pancake. From I-22 it is quite easy to achieve good image quality, despite the presence of a bouquet of aberrations. They only make the picture a little more interesting than the usual Industar-50 with similar parameters.

Thank you for your attention, Eshmakov Rodion.

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Comments: 41, on the topic: Rangefinder lens Industar-22 1: 3,5 F = 50mm P (KMZ), adapted for the M42. Review from the reader Radozhiva

  • kronitopov

    we don’t have a culture of color, it's over.
    a person reads reviews, looks at photos with such and such color and thinks that it should be so.
    I need to somehow instill a color culture in people, it seems to me .. their kanans, like, 5dm2 are praised.

  • Alexander

    Folding lens - folding camera (carcass)! :)

  • zengarden

    I liked the photos, especially the macro. It seems to me that Rodion will be able to get good pictures on the pinhole :)
    An interesting effect on the penultimate photo - is this the “sun rain"?

    • Rodion

      This is exactly what I call this effect.

  • Dmitry E.

    In my opinion, you should not redo the old rangefinder lenses. It's a pity there are not many, but it's still interesting to read the reviews

    • Vitaly N

      It’s worth while they are also inexpensive. And then you look, after 5 years of mirrorlessness, they will go into fashion, and they will also raise the price for rangefinder lenses.

      • Andrei

        already in full swing. look what's on the fuck on the watering can now. This is some BOOM !!! :)

    • Alexander

      1953 year of manufacture of the lens, which is in the photo. Rarity, however. :)

  • Simon

    I liked some kind of installation drawing. I even wanted to experiment.

  • anonym

    Not in the subject of course, but here is interesting news. Zenit cameras will return in 2018
    An employee of the Krasnogorsk Mechanical Plant (KMZ), which previously assembled Zenit cameras, shared plans to resume production of the legendary cameras: this is a mirrorless camera with a full-frame sensor, which will cost more than a good smartphone. The new Zenit will retain the appearance of its predecessors. There will be two options for the body of the device - dark and light. Also, the case will be decorated with leather and other high-quality materials.

    Sergeyev said that Zenit would cost "more than a good smartphone." You can expect a price in the region of 50-80 thousand rubles, which is comparable to the new “mirrorless” mid-level from competitors. We are working on a project for close cooperation with one of the leading photographic equipment companies in order to create a joint product where KMZ acts in the production of infrastructure for the production of optics for these cameras. And electronics will be manufactured abroad

    • Vitaly N

      That is, everything is as always - under the guise of Zenith, Chinese or Korean products will be sold, but with the “Made in Russia” nameplate? I don’t think that for 80 tr. there are many buyers for this.

    • NE

      Another game of imitation. Even in Juche, like our best friends, does not pull. And I would not call these cameras legendary. If only in a way, like a shovel service for repairing household appliances. This is certainly a legend. So, fishlessness and cancer were fish. Something good with a scoop could be taken only in the commission for 10-15 salaries of an engineer. In principle, the proportion, if it has changed in 30 years, is not to say that significantly. And the trend, as they say now, is excellent, but not hopeless.

      • Alexander

        This is the case everywhere (about the filling). For example, most Swiss watches use a movement made in Japan. And the high cost of the watch is due to the brand - Made in Switzerland.

        • NE

          That's right, only the brand is worth something and therefore it actually vouches for something with its name so as not to depreciate. And therefore there are corresponding processes, for example, at least a quality control process as part of a quality management system .... A bright future, etc. - this is all for internal consumption a diploma.

        • Toad

          Don't talk nonsense! In Swiss watches (And not “like Swiss” brands), if it says SWISS MADE, there are ALWAYS Swiss movements! In inexpensive Swiss, fittings (cases, handles) are often ordered in Asia, but not the mechanism.

          • Alexander

            I agree. Just recently (about a month) acquired Orient. Classic. Automatic mechanics. Not SWISS MADE, really. I like this design. This photo is not mine. This is not an advertisement!

    • Arkady Shapoval

      To me in a PM about this information write everyone who is not lazy.
      Want to hear my answer? Here it is:
      1. The overwhelming majority of Zenith cameras are SLR. Here, under the Zenith brand, they want to sell mirrorless cameras. If you need a bzk from KMZ - it's the Vigilants, but apparently not everyone knows about the Vigilant, but many people know about Zenit.
      2. Canon, Nikon, Pentax, and other real guys have not yet released their full-blown BZK, and will some forgotten Zenith be ahead of the rest? Really?
      3. A couple of years ago they promised to release a digital SLR, now is the summer of 2017 and where is that development? I suppose, by analogy, the same will happen with the KMZ BZK
      4. Personally, I'd rather buy a Chinese Yi-m1than I will rely on KMZ, which in digital technologies is decades behind.

      • Vitaly N

        I will not be surprised that a similar Chinese camera will be sold in a “Zenith-style” case. And from KMZ there will be only a name. Well, they really love in the countries of the former USSR to sell Chinese products, passing off as their production.

      • Valery

        100% agree.
        KMZ owners need to give the plant to the Chinese.
        Maybe the Chinese will arrange the release of cameras.
        And they will sell under the brand * D-zen-it *

      • NE

        The thought is not mine, but I totally agree with it: there is probably no longer a division into developed and developing countries. There are developed and finally undeveloped. And every day the gap is more and more. There is nothing much to discuss.

      • zengarden

        But I still think that this is another air shock in the hope of cutting dough from the budget (since Dimon himself fit in there). They won’t do anything. Optics can still only rivet manual according to old schemes, reprinting the "legendary" junk.
        Full-frame UPCs are now produced only by Sony and Leica; will they cooperate with Rostec? I strongly doubt it. In the best case, it will be some Chinese who make "Russian" smartphones.
        Earlier information slipped that KMZ want to release our analog of Lakey :)
        I think they will position it that way; The ̶v̶l̶o̶zh̶a̶tт will cut a jigurdillion of money for this case, and then they will quietly close, like - these are all sanctions and other force majeure.
        In general, I look at this news as April Fools' Day.

      • Dmitriy

        Here is the source of firewood

        http://radio1.news/news/v-2018-godu-na-mirovykh-rynkakh-poyavitsya-legendarnyy-fotoapparat-zenit/?sphrase_id=8212

        The comrade clearly says that they will be released abroad, and this will be done by some leading company. So this is a marketing ploy. From KMZ there will be only optics, a nameplate and a retro design.

    • Oleg

      And the price corresponds to the cheapest version of Sony a7, it’s better not to risk it. Is it interesting that Kenon and Nikon will release a full-length BZK or do not dare to challenge their mirror monsters?

      • Vitaly N

        Released. They are already patenting new lenses and matrix curves under them.

    • Michael

      Yeah, and the M42 mount for old buckets ... For this price, it's better to sleepyheads

  • anonym

    The pseudo-patriots - “the owners of Leeks” cackled. Let's see ... Comments will not go anywhere ... ...

  • Alexey

    I am interested in the following questions about this miracle BZK:
    1) What mount?
    2) Whose matrix is ​​it?
    3) Aftofocus? It’s time already, that kei seventeenth in the yard.
    4) Real price tag. The limit for such a "dark horse" is $ 600-700 with a whale high-aperture fifty kopecks included.

    • Oleg

      When I read about this article, I read the comments: so some suggested leaving the M-42 mount. I don’t know how electrical contacts can be placed on a threaded bayonet mount, but all rangefinder optics were sharpened for the M-39. In general, the most difficult thing in this story is the bayonet mount, well, for example, you can buy a matrix from Sony, but renting a mount from Kenon or Nikon is problematic and its development takes time. I’m probably not a patriot, but it seemed that the article was simply designed for those yearning for the Zenith and M-42 mount. Well, if something burns out, I will not mind

      • Rodion

        Maintaining your offtopic ...
        Threaded camera mounts are a nightmare in 2017. You just get tired of twisting the lenses back and forth. No electronics will be a plus.
        It would be wise to copy the E or EF-M mount.

        • Dmitriy

          Then it’s more logical to copy Sony, the more so because they drove through exhibitions already full-frame 0,95 / 50 with mount a la Sonya, although completely manual

          • Rodion

            The most logical thing for them is to sit and not show off - they will not be able to give birth to anything worthwhile anyway. There is no technical base. You can't just take and give birth to a BZK out of nothing.

            • anonym

              You can, Mr. categorical! Look towards China. Copy and not only everything that moves and does not move. An example is the new acquisition of Arcadia-digital camera YI-M1.)

              • Jury

                The Chinese copy and they manage to make a lens that is close in functionality to the original. Just imagine that an analogue of Nikon 50mm 1,8af-s was made at KMZ: a metal lens with manual focusing, without a blinking diaphragm (like on the new Helios 40), without microprocessor contacts, would have turned out. it could be similar only in optical properties, but in functionality - and would not stand next to it + would cost at the level of native glass. Hence all the skepticism of readers.

              • Dmitriy

                Yuri, I would not say. In G-40, in order to make a jump rope, you need to redo the entire frame. and they use the old groundwork. But on the same Zenitars-N 16 / 2,8 there is a jumper, on Pentax lenses there is a jumper too. And as for the metal - it's a plus for the lens.

          • zengarden

            Sony in their full-frame UPC made a little "mistake" with the bayonet size (according to Sigma experts). And in general, making a full-frame system "from scratch" is pointless, and very few people can do it. There is nothing to say about KMZ. They are at least half a century behind in objectivity.

            • Oleg

              I think that even few people can afford to mount a mount from scratch, and renting from someone will cost additional funds, and will they agree to it

        • anonym

          But what about Helios 40 with an N and C mount?

  • Rodion

    If someone was interested in this lens, you can write me an e-mail with a proposal: rudzil@yandex.ru

  • anonym

    The stupidity is complete, before there were human reviews, but now ... where did this character come from on the site?

  • Alexander Rifeev

    "P" and the year of "birth" 1953 means that this I-22 is made of optical glass obtained from Germany for reparations ... such Industars were made inclusively until 1954

  • Sergei

    Lenses from Industar 22 can be transplanted into the case from Industar 50 or 50-2, which I actually intend to do at my leisure. I'll see what comes of it.

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