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  1. kronitopov
    19.08.2017

    we don’t have a culture of color, it's over.
    a person reads reviews, looks at photos with such and such color and thinks that it should be so.
    I need to somehow instill a color culture in people, it seems to me .. their kanans, like, 5dm2 are praised.

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  2. Alexander
    19.08.2017

    Folding lens - folding camera (carcass)! :)

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  3. zengarden
    19.08.2017

    I liked the photos, especially the macro. It seems to me that Rodion will be able to get good pictures on the pinhole :)
    An interesting effect on the penultimate photo - is this the “sun rain"?

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    • Rodion
      20.08.2017

      This is exactly what I call this effect.

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  4. Dmitry E.
    19.08.2017

    In my opinion, you should not redo the old rangefinder lenses. It's a pity there are not many, but it's still interesting to read the reviews

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    • Vitaly N
      19.08.2017

      It’s worth while they are also inexpensive. And then you look, after 5 years of mirrorlessness, they will go into fashion, and they will also raise the price for rangefinder lenses.

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      • Andrei
        20.08.2017

        already in full swing. look what's on the fuck on the watering can now. This is some BOOM !!! :)

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    • Alexander
      20.08.2017

      1953 year of manufacture of the lens, which is in the photo. Rarity, however. :)

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  5. Simon
    19.08.2017

    I liked some kind of installation drawing. I even wanted to experiment.

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  6. anonym
    20.08.2017

    Not in the subject of course, but here is interesting news. Zenit cameras will return in 2018
    An employee of the Krasnogorsk Mechanical Plant (KMZ), which previously assembled Zenit cameras, shared plans to resume production of the legendary cameras: this is a mirrorless camera with a full-frame sensor, which will cost more than a good smartphone. The new Zenit will retain the appearance of its predecessors. There will be two options for the body of the device - dark and light. Also, the case will be decorated with leather and other high-quality materials.

    Sergeyev said that Zenit would cost "more than a good smartphone." You can expect a price in the region of 50-80 thousand rubles, which is comparable to the new “mirrorless” mid-level from competitors. We are working on a project for close cooperation with one of the leading photographic equipment companies in order to create a joint product where KMZ acts in the production of infrastructure for the production of optics for these cameras. And electronics will be manufactured abroad

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    • Vitaly N
      20.08.2017

      That is, everything is as always - under the guise of Zenith, Chinese or Korean products will be sold, but with the “Made in Russia” nameplate? I don’t think that for 80 tr. there are many buyers for this.

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    • NE
      20.08.2017

      Another game of imitation. Even in Juche, like our best friends, does not pull. And I would not call these cameras legendary. If only in a way, like a shovel service for repairing household appliances. This is certainly a legend. So, fishlessness and cancer were fish. Something good with a scoop could be taken only in the commission for 10-15 salaries of an engineer. In principle, the proportion, if it has changed in 30 years, is not to say that significantly. And the trend, as they say now, is excellent, but not hopeless.

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      • Alexander
        20.08.2017

        This is the case everywhere (about the filling). For example, most Swiss watches use a movement made in Japan. And the high cost of the watch is due to the brand - Made in Switzerland.

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      • NE
        20.08.2017

        That's right, only the brand is worth something and therefore it actually vouches for something with its name so as not to depreciate. And therefore there are corresponding processes, for example, at least a quality control process as part of a quality management system .... A bright future, etc. - this is all for internal consumption a diploma.

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      • Toad
        21.08.2017

        Don't talk nonsense! In Swiss watches (And not “like Swiss” brands), if it says SWISS MADE, there are ALWAYS Swiss movements! In inexpensive Swiss, fittings (cases, handles) are often ordered in Asia, but not the mechanism.

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      • Alexander
        21.08.2017

        I agree. Just recently (about a month) acquired Orient. Classic. Automatic mechanics. Not SWISS MADE, really. I like this design. This photo is not mine. This is not an advertisement!

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      20.08.2017

      To me in a PM about this information write everyone who is not lazy.
      Want to hear my answer? Here it is:
      1. The overwhelming majority of Zenith cameras are SLR. Here, under the Zenith brand, they want to sell mirrorless cameras. If you need a bzk from KMZ - it's the Vigilants, but apparently not everyone knows about the Vigilant, but many people know about Zenit.
      2. Canon, Nikon, Pentax, and other real guys have not yet released their full-blown BZK, and will some forgotten Zenith be ahead of the rest? Really?
      3. A couple of years ago they promised to release a digital SLR, now is the summer of 2017 and where is that development? I suppose, by analogy, the same will happen with the KMZ BZK
      4. Personally, I'd rather buy a Chinese Yi-m1than I will rely on KMZ, which in digital technologies is decades behind.

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      • Vitaly N
        20.08.2017

        I will not be surprised that a similar Chinese camera will be sold in a “Zenith-style” case. And from KMZ there will be only a name. Well, they really love in the countries of the former USSR to sell Chinese products, passing off as their production.

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      • Valery
        20.08.2017

        100% agree.
        KMZ owners need to give the plant to the Chinese.
        Maybe the Chinese will arrange the release of cameras.
        And they will sell under the brand * D-zen-it *

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      • NE
        20.08.2017

        The thought is not mine, but I totally agree with it: there is probably no longer a division into developed and developing countries. There are developed and finally undeveloped. And every day the gap is more and more. There is nothing much to discuss.

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      • zengarden
        20.08.2017

        But I still think that this is another air shock in the hope of cutting dough from the budget (since Dimon himself fit in there). They won’t do anything. Optics can still only rivet manual according to old schemes, reprinting the "legendary" junk.
        Full-frame UPCs are now produced only by Sony and Leica; will they cooperate with Rostec? I strongly doubt it. In the best case, it will be some Chinese who make "Russian" smartphones.
        Earlier information slipped that KMZ want to release our analog of Lakey :)
        I think they will position it that way; The ̶v̶l̶o̶zh̶a̶tт will cut a jigurdillion of money for this case, and then they will quietly close, like - these are all sanctions and other force majeure.
        In general, I look at this news as April Fools' Day.

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      • Dmitriy
        23.08.2017

        Here is the source of firewood

        http://radio1.news/news/v-2018-godu-na-mirovykh-rynkakh-poyavitsya-legendarnyy-fotoapparat-zenit/?sphrase_id=8212

        The comrade clearly says that they will be released abroad, and this will be done by some leading company. So this is a marketing ploy. From KMZ there will be only optics, a nameplate and a retro design.

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    • Oleg
      20.08.2017

      And the price corresponds to the cheapest version of Sony a7, it’s better not to risk it. Is it interesting that Kenon and Nikon will release a full-length BZK or do not dare to challenge their mirror monsters?

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      • Vitaly N
        20.08.2017

        Released. They are already patenting new lenses and matrix curves under them.

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    • Michael
      21.08.2017

      Yeah, and the M42 mount for old buckets ... For this price, it's better to sleepyheads

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  7. anonym
    21.08.2017

    The pseudo-patriots - “the owners of Leeks” cackled. Let's see ... Comments will not go anywhere ... ...

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  8. Alexey
    21.08.2017

    I am interested in the following questions about this miracle BZK:
    1) What mount?
    2) Whose matrix is ​​it?
    3) Aftofocus? It’s time already, that kei seventeenth in the yard.
    4) Real price tag. The limit for such a "dark horse" is $ 600-700 with a whale high-aperture fifty kopecks included.

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    • Oleg
      21.08.2017

      When I read about this article, I read the comments: so some suggested leaving the M-42 mount. I don’t know how electrical contacts can be placed on a threaded bayonet mount, but all rangefinder optics were sharpened for the M-39. In general, the most difficult thing in this story is the bayonet mount, well, for example, you can buy a matrix from Sony, but renting a mount from Kenon or Nikon is problematic and its development takes time. I’m probably not a patriot, but it seemed that the article was simply designed for those yearning for the Zenith and M-42 mount. Well, if something burns out, I will not mind

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      • Rodion
        21.08.2017

        Maintaining your offtopic ...
        Threaded camera mounts are a nightmare in 2017. You just get tired of twisting the lenses back and forth. No electronics will be a plus.
        It would be wise to copy the E or EF-M mount.

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      • Dmitriy
        22.08.2017

        Then it’s more logical to copy Sony, the more so because they drove through exhibitions already full-frame 0,95 / 50 with mount a la Sonya, although completely manual

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      • Rodion
        22.08.2017

        The most logical thing for them is to sit and not show off - they will not be able to give birth to anything worthwhile anyway. There is no technical base. You can't just take and give birth to a BZK out of nothing.

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      • anonym
        22.08.2017

        You can, Mr. categorical! Look towards China. Copy and not only everything that moves and does not move. An example is the new acquisition of Arcadia-digital camera YI-M1.)

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      • Jury
        22.08.2017

        The Chinese copy and they manage to make a lens that is close in functionality to the original. Just imagine that an analogue of Nikon 50mm 1,8af-s was made at KMZ: a metal lens with manual focusing, without a blinking diaphragm (like on the new Helios 40), without microprocessor contacts, would have turned out. it could be similar only in optical properties, but in functionality - and would not stand next to it + would cost at the level of native glass. Hence all the skepticism of readers.

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      • Dmitriy
        22.08.2017

        Yuri, I would not say. In G-40, in order to make a jump rope, you need to redo the entire frame. and they use the old groundwork. But on the same Zenitars-N 16 / 2,8 there is a jumper, on Pentax lenses there is a jumper too. And as for the metal - it's a plus for the lens.

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      • zengarden
        22.08.2017

        Sony in their full-frame UPC made a little "mistake" with the bayonet size (according to Sigma experts). And in general, making a full-frame system "from scratch" is pointless, and very few people can do it. There is nothing to say about KMZ. They are at least half a century behind in objectivity.

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      • Oleg
        22.08.2017

        I think that even few people can afford to mount a mount from scratch, and renting from someone will cost additional funds, and will they agree to it

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      • anonym
        22.08.2017

        But what about Helios 40 with an N and C mount?

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  9. Rodion
    27.08.2017

    If someone was interested in this lens, you can write me an e-mail with a proposal: rudzil@yandex.ru

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  10. anonym
    01.01.2018

    The stupidity is complete, before there were human reviews, but now ... where did this character come from on the site?

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  11. Alexander Rifeev
    27.06.2020

    "P" and the year of "birth" 1953 means that this I-22 is made of optical glass obtained from Germany for reparations ... such Industars were made inclusively until 1954

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  12. Sergei
    13.08.2022

    Lenses from Industar 22 can be transplanted into the case from Industar 50 or 50-2, which I actually intend to do at my leisure. I'll see what comes of it.

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