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Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
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- History
- Main Specifications
- Assembly
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- Aperture Features
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In this review, I will abbreviate this lens - Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650)
In short
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is a versatile and compact zoom. The lens has lens parking systemthat when folded turns it into pancake lens. The key difference from other similar lenses is the pair electronic focus / zoom ring... In general, it is dark whale lens in a newfangled compact body. It 'pulls' well at 24 megapixels on a cropped sensor Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300)that I was provided with this lens.
The Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is the smallest interchangeable-lens zoom lens I have ever used.
Unlike the hordes of similar whale lenses with a set of focal lengths of 18-55 mm, the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 lens sacrificed 5 mm of focal length in the telerange in order to extend the wide-angle position by 2 mm. And if 5 mm in the TV range is almost not felt, then 2 mm in the wide-angle range makes a noticeable difference. In terms of EGF of this lens is 24-75mm, which is a very, very convenient set of focal lengths. This is the first time I see such a dark whale with such a 'correct'/'comfortable' set of focal lengths. Sony E 3.5-5.6/PZ 16-50 partially even overlaps a bit of the ultra-wide range Sony E 4 / 10-18 OSS Optical Steady Shot (SEL-1018).
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650)
History
11 May 2010 the lens was introduced Sony E 3.5-5.6 / 18-55 OSS (Optical Steady Shot, E-mount, SEL1855), which is one of the first three lenses for Sony mirrorless cropped cameras with an APS-C sensor. Initially, there was only a version Sony E 18-55 in a silver case. Version Sony E 18-55 в black case appeared only with the release of the camera NEX-7 24 August 2011 year.
12 September 2012 The lens from this review was presented - Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS (Optical Steady Shot, Power Zoom, E-mount, SELP1650) with electronic zoom and much more compact folded dimensions. The 16-50mm f / 3.5-5.6 PZ OSS cannot be considered a replacement for the Sony E 18-55, but rather an addition. Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS was introduced with the camera Sony NEX6
March 24 2014 years the lens was released Sony E 4-5.6 / 18-50 (E-mount, SEL1850) that came with the camera a3500... This lens was discontinued in 2016. Sony E 18-50 is not a logical continuation Sony E 18-55 or Sony E 16-50, since it lacks a built-in stabilizer and focus ring and uses a much simpler optical design.
There are no native alternatives to Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS yet. Other versatile E-mount lenses are not as compact as the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50. Of these pancake lenses, I would recommend looking at Sony E 2.8 / 16 (Sony SEL-16F28) и Sony E 2.8 / 20 (SEL-20F28).
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650)
Main technical characteristics of Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650):
| Review Instance Name | Near the front lens 'Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS 0.25m / 0.82ft-0.30m / 0.98ft Ø40.5'. On '3.5-5.6 / 16-50 Optical Steady Shot E-mount Power Zoom W - T' case. The identification plate 'Interchangeable Lens MODEL / SELP1650 SONY CORP. Made in Thailand ' |
| Basic properties |
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| Front Filter Diameter | 40.5 mm, plastic thread for filters |
| Focal length | 16-50 mm EGF for Sony cameras with an APS-C sensor is 24-75 mm.
With a camera Sony a6300 an optional 4X digital zoom is available, creating the illusion of a 16-200mm lens (EGF 24-300 mm). |
| Zoom ratio | 3.125 X (usually just talking about XNUMXx zoom) |
| Designed by | for Sony ILCE APS-C digital mirrorless cameras |
| Number of aperture blades | 7 rounded petals |
| Tags | Bayonet Mount Only |
| Diaphragm |
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| MDF (minimum focusing distance) | 0.25 m by 16 mm, and 0.3 m by 50 mm, the maximum magnification ratio is reached by 50 mm and is 1: 4.65 |
| The weight | 116 g |
| Optical design | 9 elements in 8 groups. The scheme includes:
The image of the optical circuit is clickable. |
| Lens hood | There is no original lens hood for this lens. |
| Manufacturer country | Made In Thailand (Made in Thailand) |
| Period | Since September 12 2012 year |
| Price | The real cost of this lens can be seen, for example, here. |
With its compact size, the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 resembles a fixed pancake Sony E 2.8 / 16 (Sony SEL-16F28).
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650)
Assembly
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is well assembled, there are no obvious flaws. True, the retractable frame of the body (trunk) has a slight backlash. The trunk of the lens consists of one section. Despite the fact that the lens weighs just a little more than 100 grams, it still uses a metal mount. When folded, its length is only 3 cm (from the camera mount to the end of the frame).
The lens has parking system... As soon as the camera is turned off, the retractable front part of the body frame (trunk) automatically folds down to a compact size. True, a little time is wasted for the lens to activate or wake up from sleep mode when the camera is turned on. The lens takes up to two seconds to activate. Upon activation, the lens always sets to 16mm focal length. Unlike DSLR lenses with a parking system such as Nikon 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6GII or SMC Pentax-DA L 1: 4-5.6 18-50mm, lens parking for Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is fully automatic (electromechanical).
The front lens of the lens is tiny, around it there is a brilliant rim of the body, resembling glare of glass and creating the appearance that the front lens is much larger. The size of the front lens I showed in this picture. What is inside Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is clearly visible here.
The Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is the first lens for Sony E mount cameras to use electromechanical zoom. The lens uses one ring to control zoom and / or focus (depending on the situation). Also, there is a dedicated Power Zoom WT slider that allows you to control only the zoom. During zooming, the focal length is displayed in EVI or on the display of the camera you are using.
Changing the focal length with the main ring is inconvenient. True, the ring is able to respond to the speed of rotation and tries to imitate the operation of a conventional mechanical zoom ring. Controlling zoom using the slider is smoother than using the ring. Most likely, a slider was added to the lens so that you can quickly change the focal length and perform manual focus alternately.
The electromechanical zoom performed quite well during movie shooting. Changing the focal length, and with it the viewing angle and transmitting perspectives on the video, is smooth and pleasant.
Important: during a sharp change in focal length using a paired lens ring pretty noisy. The noise is similar to the micro-motors of cheap Chinese toys; also, a noise is heard that resembles the friction of plastic on plastic. During a smooth change in focal length, for example, using a slider, or a smooth rotation of the ring, the noise from the lens becomes acceptable and one that does not interfere with comfortable operation.
The main paired focus / zoom ring is plastic, freely rotates around its axis. The slider instantly returns to its original position after sliding it to the 'W' (wide-angle) or 'T' (tele-range) position. The slider is also not rubberized.
When changing the focal length, the trunk of the lens moving in waves: its maximum length is achieved at 16 and 50 mm of focal length, the trunk is in the shortest position at 25 mm of focal length. The wave-like movement of the trunk is characteristic of a large number of similar whale lenses.
On the back of the lens is a rectangular hood that cuts off excess light and prevents exposure.
Unfortunately, a lens hood is not available for this lens (most likely, to preserve the compact size of the lens).
The diameter of the front filter is only 40.5 cm, usually similar whale lenses use filters with a diameter of 52, 55 or 58 mm.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650)
Stabilizer
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 uses the built-in image stabilizer OSS (Optical Steady Shot). Stated that the stabilizer can compensate 4 stops by shutter speed (by Sony standards). In numerical terms, this means that you can shoot at shutter speeds 16 times slower than required by a lens without a stabilizer. For example, when shooting without the stabilizer of stationary objects, at a focal length of 50 mm, it is recommended to shoot at shutter speeds of 1/50 s or faster. With the gimbal on, you can theoretically shoot by 1/3 s.
In practice, I was able to make sharp shots of stationary objects with hands at 50 mm only at shutter speeds no longer than 1/5 of a second.
There is no switch on the lens responsible for stabilizer operation. The stabilization function is turned on in the camera menu.
There is no noise from the stabilizer. When using the lens, it seems that the stabilizer does not work at all. Perhaps it turns on at full power only during shutter release.
In general, the stabilizer confidently holds 2-3 stops on shutter speed.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
Focusing
The lens uses a built-in stepper focus motor Internal stepping motor.
Auto Focus Speed - very high... I should note that the focusing speed of the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is one of the highest among other similar kit lenses. Also, focusing is very quiet.
While working with the camera Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300) The accuracy and tenacity of focus was at a high level. I shot a small net in almost total darkness, while only 2-3 frames out of 400 were with focus errors. With good lighting, there are practically no problems with accuracy, tenacity, and refocusing. It often happened that the display or EVI a slight twitch in the focus was noticeable, while the subject seems to be out of the zone of sharpness, but at the moment the shutter is released, by some miracle, the lens hits exactly the target (most likely, the cunning algorithm of the focus module of this camera).
For manual focus, select the focus mode MF (Manual focus) or DMF (direct RF) in the camera menu, after which the paired ring will be responsible for focusing. With very smooth rotation, the focus ring rotates 270 degrees (from MDF to infinity). The electronic focus ring is more responsive to its rotation speed than to a specific rotation angle, which sometimes creates a tactile inconvenience.
During focusing, the front lens remains stationary, as the lens uses internal focus. Thus, it is possible to use any filters without problems, for example polarizing or gradient (it’s a pity that the diameter of the filters is very small).
The minimum focusing distance depends on the focal length. At 16 mm it is 25 cm, at 50 mm focal length - 30 cm. The maximum magnification ratio is reached at 50 mm focal length and is only 1: 4.65 (the smaller the second number in the fraction - the better the 'macro' mode).
While working with the camera Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300) with this lens is available by default additional digital zoom 4X or 2X. After reaching a focal length of 50 mm, you can get an additional digital zoom up to the equivalent of 200 mm. Zoom from 16 to 50 and from 50 to 4X (200 mm) changes smoothly, it is difficult to notice the transition from optical to digital zoom. Unenlightened users may not notice the difference between optical and digital zoom and enjoy a convenient set of focal lengths from 16 to 200 mm. Additional digital zoom can be disabled in the menu.
- Focusing speed is almost independent of the selected focal length.
- After the lens loses focus, refocusing is very fast.
- The lens has no depth of field scale, focusing distance and marks for working in the infrared spectrum.
- Focus shift (shift-focus) was not noticed during operation and testing.
- The focusing speed depends heavily on the illumination, the selected focus mode in the camera menu and the focus logic of each individual camera.
- There is no focus mode switch on the case.
- The electronic focus ring in manual focus mode consumes excess power.
- During auto focus, the focus ring remains stationary.
- During manual focus on the camera display Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300) the focus distance bar appears.
- When changing the focal length, focusing practically does not go astray (there may be auto-correction of the distance when changing the focal length).
- Effect 'Focus breathing'(changes in viewing angle during focusing) for this lens is almost completely absent.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
Diaphragm
The diaphragm consists of 7 rounded petals, which should form a round hole. But still polygons on covered diaphragms are easy to trace in real shots (example on f / 11).
Due to the slightly rounded aperture blades, the effect of a 14-ray star can be obtained.
Blur discs have a pronounced bulb effect (example) Due to the low aperture, slightly rounded petals and the effect of bulbous concentric bokeh circles, the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ is very meager.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
Image quality
Important: image quality very, very much depends on the functions used in the camera to improve the image. If you shoot in on-camera JPEG with the functions for image enhancement turned on, then the lens produces quite acceptable image quality. But if you dig into the original RAW files with third-party RAW converters, you can be horrified by the huge distortion and vignetting at 16 mm. By the way, 16 mm with the distortion correction function are not fair, this function cuts off parts of the frame during the distortion correction, which leads to a decrease in the viewing angle and actually makes the angle equal to 17-18 mm focal length. We treat one thing and cripple the other.
The lens creates a contrast image, in the center of the frame the lens is sharp already at open apertures, 50 mm sharpness in the center is noticeably worse than in the middle of the range. The lens tolerates lateral and backlight well, it is difficult to get glare in the backlight, but still you can not do without them (Example 1, Example 2).
Personally, I expected a much lower image quality from this lens. But the image quality pleasantly surprised me (and even on a 24 MP camera Sony a6300) and gave strength and inspiration to add this review to the end.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
Sample Photos
Pictures were taken with Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300). In the gallery, the pictures are shown without processing, on-camera JPEG.
JPEG source files can be downloaded at this link. RAW format at this link.
Dimensions Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300). Beside Canon Lens EF 50mm 1: 1.8 II, 'Canon Lens Made in Japan' version
My experience
At the same time on the review I had 10 lenses, including manual fifty dollars Super-Takumar 1: 1.8 / 55 и Super-Takumar 1: 2 / 55super weird MSO USSR SSD UPP-1 ★ KHARKIV ★ F-7 CM ★super cheap I96U-3.5 / 50medium format Vega-5U 4/105 (all of these lenses are 40 years old with a ponytail) and a pair of autofocus lenses for Canon. Of all the lenses, I wanted the least to write about Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50.
I am tormented by the question - what if a camera lying in a wardrobe trunk or a regular bag, or a jacket pocket accidentally turns on, will the lens break if it does not have enough space to extend its trunk?
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is a modern lens for every day for taking photos without unnecessary troubles in the style of 'point and shoot'. Working with the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is similar to working with lenses that are used in conventional digital cameras without interchangeable optics.
In the end, I would say that this is a good lens for amateurs who first took a mirrorless camera in their hands, and a disgusting lens for those who have ever encountered optics of a different kind.
Viewing a whale lens is always difficult. I must write that even with such a dark lens you can get a bunch of great photos.
Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
Price
The real cost of this lens can be seen, for example, here.
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Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 OSS Optical Steady Shot Power Zoom (Sony SELP1650). The lens is shown on a mirrorless camera. Sony a6300 (ILCE-6300).
All Sony E-mount cameras with APS-C sensor
- NEX-3, NEX-C3, NEX-F3, NEX-3Women
- NEX-5, NEX-5N, NEX-5R, NEX-5T [fifth series on AliExpress.com]
- NEX-6, NEX-7
- a3000, a3500
- a5000, a5100
- a6000, a6100, a6300, a6400, a6500, a6600, a6700 [6000 series on Ali]
- ZV-E10
- FX30
- QX1
- Hasselblad lunar
All Sony E lenses for APS-C
Fix Lenses:
- Sony 11 mm f/1.8 (announcement) [2022, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 15 mm f / 1.4 G (announcement) [2022, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 16 mm f/2.8 (overview) [2010, silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 20 mm f/2.8 (announcement) [2013, silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 24 mm f / 1.8 ZEISS ZA (overview) [2011, black]
- Sony 30 mm f / 3.5 MACRO (overview) [2011, silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 35 mm f / 1.8 OSS (announcement) [2012, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 50 mm f / 1.8 OSS (announcement) [2011, black/silver, AliExpress price]
Zoom Lenses:
- Sony 10-18 mm f / 4 OSS (announcement) [2012, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 10-20 mm f / 4 G PZ (announcement) [2022, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 16-50 mm f / 3.5-5.6 PZ OSS (overview) [2012, black/silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 16-55 mm f / 2.8 G (overview) [2019, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 16-70 mm f / 4 OSS ZEISS ZA (overview) [2013, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 18-50 mm f/4-5.6 (overview) [2014, black]
- Sony 18-55 mm f / 3.5-5.6 OSS (overview) [2010, black/silver]
- Sony 18-105 mm f / 4 G PZ OSS (announcement) [2013, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 18-110 mm f / 4 G PZ OSS (announcement) [2016, black]
- Sony 18-135 mm f / 3.5-5.6 OSS (overview) [2018, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 18-200 mm f / 3.5-6.3 OSS (overview) [2010, silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 18-200 mm f / 3.5-6.3 OSS LE (overview) [2012, black, AliExpress price]
- Sony 18-200 mm f / 3.5-6.3 PZ OSS (announcement) [2012, black]
- Sony 55-210 mm f / 4.5-6.3 OSS (announcement) [2011, black/silver, AliExpress price]
- Sony 70-350 mm f/4.5–6.3 G OSS (announcement) [2019, black, AliExpress price]
Third-party autofocus lenses for Sony E APS-C:
- Zeiss Touit Distagon 12/2.8 | Zeiss Touit Planar 32/1.8 | Zeiss Touit Makro Planar 50/2.8M
- Hasselblad E 3.5-5.6 / 18-55 OSS LF | Hasselblad E 3.5-6.3 / 18-200 OSS LF | Hasselblad E 2.8 / 16 LF
- Sigma C 16 / 1.4 | Sigma A 19 / 2.8 | Sigma EX 19 / 2.8 | Sigma C 30 / 1.4 | Sigma EX 30 / 2.8 | Sigma A 30 / 2.8 | Sigma C 56 / 1.4 | Sigma A 60 / 2.8 | Sigma C 10-18 / 2.8 | Sigma C 18-50 / 2.8
- Tamron 11-20 / 2.8 | Tamron 17-70 / 2.8 VC | Tamron 18-200 / 3.5-6.3 VC | Tamron 18-300 / 3.5-6.3 VC
- Viltrox 13 / 1.4 | Viltrox 23 / 1.4 | felttrox 27/1.2 | Viltrox 33 / 1.4 | Viltrox 56 / 1.4 | felttrox 75/1.2
- Tokina 23 / 1.4 | Tokina 33 / 1.4 | Tokina 56 / 1.4 | Tokina 11-18 / 2.8
- Samyang 12 / 2
- Yongnuo 11 / 1.8, Yongnuo 16 / 1.8, Yongnuo 50 / 1.8
- TTArtisan 27 / 2.8, TTArtisan 35 / 1.8, TTArtisan 56 / 1.8
- Brightin Star 50 / 1.4
- Meike 55 / 1.4
- 7Artisans 27 / 2.8
Many interesting manual solutions are provided by Chinese manufacturers and brands. 7Artisans, TTartisan, Meike, Neewer, PerGear, Kamlan, Brightin star, Mitakon Zhongyi, Venus laowa, Fujian, ARTRALAB, AstrHori other. Autofocus Speed Boosters are also interesting Viltrox Canon EF -> Sony E 0.71X и Metabones Canon EF -> Sony E 0.71X... List of full-frame cameras and lenses Sony FE (Full Frame E) here
Results
If you need a super-compact all-purpose lens for everyday photography and video shooting, the Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 is the perfect solution.
The Sony E 3.5-5.6 / PZ 16-50 itself is the perfect embodiment of a kit lens - it is small, light, fast focusing, with an electronic zoom and focus ring. Optically, it is not strong, but the processor of modern cameras corrects most of the shortcomings, as a result, good images are obtained from it.
Materials on the topic
- Full frame mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- Digital SLR systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- JVI or EVI (an important article that answers the question 'DSLR or mirrorless')
- About mirrorless batteries
- Simple and clear medium format
- High-speed solutions from Chinese brands
- All fastest autofocus zoom lenses
- All fastest AF prime lenses
- Mirrored full frame on mirrorless medium format
- Autofocus Speed Boosters
- One lens to rule the world
- The impact of smartphones on the photography market
- What's next (smartphone supremacy)?
- All announcements and novelties of lenses and cameras
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Thanks for the review, Arkady! I have one on the Sony 5000.
By the way, fuji in the new lenses kind of gave up the stupid “speed-dependent, not angle-dependent” manual focusing system.
Olympus cadets too
We look forward to seeing the a6300!
But is it possible to take a look at Sony's younger carcass models? Type a6000, a5000. I think, on the general wave of the growing popularity of the BZK there will be very relevant reviews.
I also have this glass on the a5000. More than two years ago I bought in the role of a soap dish with a large matrix. A great bunch came out. The center is sharp, the edges swim a lot. For household plots, generally do not care for the edges, to be honest. But I always have a camera with me, even if I didn’t intend to shoot at all initially.
“-I always take a video with me (crossed out) Camera!”)
I also wear my 5000 and take photos and videos!
Conveniently!
I always take my phone with me :) Not in rhyme, but in life :)
Its only plus is its compact dimensions, these dimensions delayed the order of the nex-m42, sigma 60 / 2.8 and Voitlander color-skopar 50 / 2.8 adapter for the whole day. As soon as I got there, Sigma immediately replaced it, of course it is bigger, heavier and there really are fingerprints on the focusing ring, but it looks good on the a5000. On the a5000 with this fix, the digital zoom also works - a trimming frame appears on the screen, I didn't turn it off, I think my wife will come in handy.
a5000 + sigma 60 / 2.8
I also have this sigma :) She's just hyper-sharp! The sharpest glass on the crop, which I came across. Alas, 19 / 2.8, 30 / 2.8 were no longer surprised.
The most surprising thing is that I ordered a Sigma 30 / 1.4, but it was not in stock. Gritting his heart he agreed to be replaced, chose 60 / 2.8 - I like it very much. Perhaps the finger of fate ☺
We did it right! The sigma 30 1.4dn has some kind of incorrigible jamb. The revised version has a small yellow circle mark on its original box. I was in two stores at the beginning of December - the batches are old, no one has recalled them.
dark photo
Evening.
Explain why you should buy an UPC and this is a misunderstanding “to always have a camera at hand” when absolutely similar quality pictures can be obtained on a digital camera or a smartphone? What is the sacred meaning in this?
Arkady, thanks for the review.
Such a device is similar in size to an ordinary soap box and is similar to it, if you visit countries far from the state of general prosperity, then this factor is quite important if you are concerned about your own safety. Personally, I took it on the basis of these considerations, but as it turned out, the device (even a5000) has excellent autofocus, for me it is much better than on the D300, plus sometimes even at ISO 2000 quite acceptable photos come out, then autofocus works fine on the Sigme, and not even on Sony i.e. communication protocols with the lens seem to be open, everyone says that it is more convenient to work with old lenses than on Nikon (I haven’t tried it myself yet), but personally I love them, then it turned out to be such a small device very convenient to take pictures from the belly - it turns out a kind of tripod, well, and the price for irrelevant models, I took mine new for 210 dollars ... For me it's just - a miracle.
I also forgot to charge it by charging for hundreds of cells and dump photos through the same cable, you can control the camera from a smartphone, it’s important for the wife that photos can be dropped onto the tablet with one touch of the device.
But $ 300 for a new whale ... a bit too much.
Ragged new - about 120.
Raskitovany - this is already used.
I beg your pardon, but I disagree. Used is when it was in use. And when you take it off the carcass from a sealed box and hand it into your hands, it's a new one, albeit without its own packaging.
No matter how. Such dimensions of the zumka on Sonya are still no different. 18-55 is already larger, does not easily fit into your pocket.
Perhaps this is some kind of marketing ploy. Perhaps they are not trying to sell them, but simply promote the product? If I’m not mistaken, it was Sony that sold headphones for the first time below cost to destroy competitors, their marketing department should be very strong, since their actions were included in the educational literature :)
If you release and do not sell, a scribe will come ... .... What's the point? (I'm talking about headphones) Themselves without profit and competitors too. Strong marketing, you will not say anything!)
The trick is that competitors are not aware that you are dumping ☺ The direction of their business becomes unprofitable, while the less they produce, the more expensive the production is - the domino effect, everyone is surprised at what a good fellow you are, they are promoting you, people walk only in your headphones - it becomes cool, as soon as the production of competitors is bent, you have gained experience in the new market and understood what buyers need and being an actual monopolist raise prices and beat off all investments. The reception does not lie on the surface, but after their tricks it is punishable by law.
I don't know for sure about cameras / lenses, but I think there is some kind of psychological calculation. Let's say this - we came to the store and saw optics on Sony, including Seitz, looked and were quietly horrified - Brand's magic was created and then we see a camera with magical names, we subtract the price of the lens and voila, the seller wasted off to tell you about the discounts for the set and you are the owner of the device with proprietary mount ☺
Unconvincing as that.)
Well yes….
Handsome man! (sony)
In fact, “always have a camera on hand” is extremely important, and here the UPC is beyond competition. A smartphone or a soap dish gives worse quality. Here are just some boring colors on Sonya, it seems correct, but the color palette is poor, hence the picture is boring.
“… BZK is beyond competition” Due to the fact that Samsung has stopped producing its excellent devices, I decided to try Sony, in this case a6000. With this lens.
So, I was completely horrified at the monstrous soapiness of this whale freak. My Honor 7x gives a much more detailed picture, not to mention the juiciness and contrast ... Indeed, the Sony picture is poor ... and it, of course, can be shamanized in any photo editor, but not every one! Maybe I haven't learned how to use a camera yet, but my ex NX1000 didn't give out such a nightmare, leaving only fond memories.
Sheer nonsense. It's stupid to compare the UPC and the smartphone. Matrix sizes, pixel sizes, dynamic range and color depth. Moreover, to say that Sonya's colors are boring ... and in your Honor 7x, isn't the matrix from Sony worth it? )
because the Sonic and Fujik BZKs are not an analogue of soap dishes, but normal cropped cameras, with good 1,5 matrices, often even better than their mirror counterparts.
Plus - compactness and another shooting paradigm.
another shooting paradigm ??? This is like Bulgakov, the sturgeon of the second freshness.
There is no other shooting paradigm; there are other interfaces between a person and a device, and nothing more.
Well, the trend of recent years, which is repeatedly said on the Internet, is the displacement of cameras by smartphones from all the lower segments. Soap boxes will become a very niche product in just three to five years (see what kind of photos you can take with the latest iPhone). In fact, the market is now consolidating in two segments at the expense of the rest: smartphones and prof. cameras (regardless of the presence of a mirror).
Well, they used to carry a bag weighing 1 kg with a reporting DSLR like 7D, well, now this place will be taken by the BZK twice as easily. But it will still be the destiny of the pros (and vlogger hipsters). But that was ten and thirty years ago.
How much expression! )))
The fact of the matter is that in a large crowd of people with smartphones even D40 with Helios attracts completely unnecessary attention, I'm not talking about D700 + 80-200 2.8. For me, a bag is needed when you move somewhere, you can go for a walk around the city with one fix.
Sturgeon of the second freshness is just a smartphone.
but what does the lower segment and DSLRs (or top / half-top bzk) have to do with it? it's like very different things
My question is about installing this kind of plugs. It's like buying a D500 and putting 18-55 on it. It's so compact ...
It's not about the paradigm, but about the lousy lens, there was a hint if someone did not understand
normal micro whale. plug. what to demand from him?
The fact of the matter is that there is nothing. And with it, the compact bzk turns into elegant shorts))) that is, almost a soap box. The main thing, it seems to me, the difference from soap is precisely in the change of this very gag to something more interesting
Here I am about that. Whatever the UPC, if you put a plug, then why demand high quality? And the quality comparable to the gag will completely provide the latest iPhone.
You might think 18-55 on Nikon is much better. The same plug - I remember the first time I replaced it with 40 / 2.8 - I could not believe my eyes.
Cheap zooms are installed on most UPC / DSLRs in the light of consumer demand for cheapness and versatility and just for zoom - an inexperienced consumer wants a zoom and does not understand how a camera can be without a zoom, and before the whales were 50 / 1.8, and in my opinion so even better. I believe that soon such lenses will again become whales and business. You can't put such lenses on a hundred square meters. cameras are unlikely to die out in the near future.
Well, this quality does not provide an iPhone, well, nothing at all. Is the whale bad? That's why he and the whale, so that later they spent on another lens. With a good lens, everything will be fine on most cameras. By the way, lenses are also made on smartphones, but these are tears and not lenses, and on a smartphone it will still be like on a smartphone. And specialized photographic equipment will always be, and not only professional.
To be honest, I constantly want to sell it and buy a 30mm fix from sigma 2,8 or 1,4, but of course you have to report $. But at the same time, a wide angle is very necessary and here you cannot do without this station wagon.
sell and take sigma.
and wide also close some 16 mm.
Eugene, Sigma has the latest fixes of the Art series at 2,8, not only at 30 and 60, but also at 19 - quite sharp frames are obtained almost across the entire field; maybe not so much captures everything, but only on the on-camera jpeg distortions are not noticeable. I have 19 and 30 for Sony A5100, and so, I hardly use 30, 19 is enough for landscapes and city photos. I don't even remember about 16-50, and I sold it a long time ago, since it cannot be compared with Sigma fixes.
Arkady, thanks for the review.
On my NEX 3N (16MP), this glass gives just crazy pixel-by-pixel detail. The maximum quality squeezes out at F10-16 - the entire field is in sharpness at all focal points. In daylight, pictures of the whale Nex 3N are hardly distinguishable from the Jeepgs with the D800!
No need to compare the NEX with the A5000 (I tested both) - the NEX series was simply killed by this disgusting 20 and 24 megapixel matrix.
There is still some variation in quality between 16-50. There were three of these. Only the third gave an equally smooth picture in the corners
For 6 years now, 24 MP is the limit for Sony cameras for crop.
COMPLETELY AGREE YES AND 18-55 GOOD ON NEX5N \ OTHER OPTICAL CIRCUIT AND WORKING QUALITY NEXT 18-55 OR 28-80. ABOVE \ YES, THE EDGE IS NOT AHTY, BUT THE CENTER !!! It's really bitter to look at the mirror from 18-55. The bashka works not in terms of technology, but in terms of status. After all, how they charge the layman - the lens looks solid.
I have one on Sony Nex 3p. It’s compact, I wear it every day, and Nikon 3100 is not so often. There is no difference in the quality of pictures. And there’s also a rotary screen.
Matrices are the same there
The case that even the master from this camera + lens could not pull anything worthwhile. Just awful. As someone already wrote in the comments, why is this camera and lens when it turns out not worse or even better on the phone. This may be the smallest whale but also the smallest. Thanks for the review.
And can you name a lot of phones capable of making a relatively good shot on the ISO 6400?
ISO6400 is your standard of quality? You can also remember about ISO9001, what is already there.
"Your phone does not shoot at ISO6400."
Here, I shot it on ISO3200 especially for you, all the same Xiaomi Mi5:
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ansfi9_Sj_oviahWtNhHHksMM2YdEA
Yes you, my friend, a joker! What does quality standards have to do with it? I decided to be smart, but by the cash register.
PS An example is just below the level of dull shit. Make it on ISO 6400, and preferably with colored objects.
I will not dare to defile your altar of ISO6400, where to me, mortal.
But what kind of bookworm are you? This value was carried out as an example and is not a measure.
Here is another one of my first test shots, at night (the light source is a 2700K 60W lamp in three meters)
https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ansfi9_Sj_oviZhEhYGhhZwc7giPFg
proofs, or chatterbox.
Interesting for the sake, photo on Xiaomi Mi5, night mode. At the same time, I do not think Mi5 is directly something so fantastic in terms of photography.
Well, these photos are only on the screen of a smartphone and to look at it, even on a 15-inch laptop, is a quiet horror. For what purpose were they brought in, as very bad, or vice versa, as an example of quality?
Depends on what you want. If you look for the negative, then yes, the photo does not reach the CZK / BZK with good optics, due to the physical features of the matrix.
This photo is in low light conditions of a mediocre smartphone in 2016 onwards. Compare with similar 5-year-old (iPhone 4), and you will understand how far the progress in this area has gone.
Progress, it does not only concern smartphones, the UPC and the Central Store are also not standing still, and a specialized device will always be superior, multifunctional. Specialization is an objective thing, a knight of many qualities and performs them mediocre.
Such photos convinced me that mobilcography is suitable only for mobile viewing. Well, there’s also a fotkat, so there’s no particular need to overpay for an expensive mobile.
Were there doubts?
opinions on the network are different.
You can try to deny the fact that technology is progressing, but my parents already have a framed photograph taken with a smartphone in a room with average lighting. Because capturing the moment is sometimes more important than all of your photographic quality and per-pixel resolution. My phone is always with me, but in a situation like this, would I carry a very, very compact camera with me? I - definitely not.
Duc, someone generally prints selfies and hangs on the wall.
they are normal.
Yes, in general, nothing terrible and no. Normal whale lens. Maybe a little soft on the long end and aperture 5.6
"If smartphones could shoot even this way, I would write with boiling water."
I'm using iPhone 6S. Shoots rich, contrasting, feast for the eyes just! Then you load this jpg into any editor, and you realize that it is impossible to compete with a small matrix even with an inch camera. At least semitones are more primitive. The fixed lens is a wide-angle lens that forces portraits to be placed strictly in the center. Do you want to be beautiful according to the rules of thirds? - you have an elongated skull like a humanoid.
Shumodav perfectly hide all the noise, though gobbled up everything in its path. Well, RAW, which is simply not delivered.
It’s better I don’t break off in a man purse the extra ~ 300 gr to take, but I will have APS-C + RAW.
You have been heard, and the seventh iPhone has two cameras - a wide-angle one and something like a telephoto camera. I didn't believe it myself until I saw it.
At the price of the seventh apple, you can buy: Nikon d3300 18-55mmVR2kit + nikkor50mm 1.8G, and a Chinese smartphone for the job.
I wrote above - the question is not in the current price for such smartphones, but in the fact that in 3-5 years smartphones will replace soap dishes (and DSLRs / bzk with cheap optics) due to comparable image quality in 90% of cases.
Soap dish with a compact sensor size has already rested as a class, I can not disagree here. Otherwise, much depends on the needs.
Well, that's been 3-5 years. And what? Have smart cameras been replaced? No. And they won’t force it out, and it’s not about the size, smart is on everyone’s pocket, but not everyone eventually became a photographer, everyone can take a picture of the world around them, but before the real “picture” it will be like cancer before China. Smart is just a scanner of the surrounding reality, even if you equip it with ten cameras, it will not jump over its x_r. And cameras meanwhile develop and are on sale in full growth.
I told you!) that this is how it will be!
There is no TV set in the iPhone 7 plus. One camera has an EGF (35 mm equivalent) of 28 mm, the other - 56 mm. Pictures from a mobile phone and a camera can be compared in quality, in some cases, except by looking at the screen of a mobile phone, and then only in full size, without enlarging the picture. If you shoot an uncomplicated landscape in good light conditions, and then not to look at and not to crop from the resulting image, it will do. In many other cases, the phone cameras are very far from the pictures taken from the camera. As soon as you stop looking at photos from your mobile phone screen, you can see it immediately.
But here is the moment: indeed, if a person does not need more, then this will completely satisfy him.
The phone has two advantages: 1) it is almost always at hand, 2) what you see on the screen before shooting, you get the result, since both visualization and final viewing on the same screen occur.
wonderful, as always the most impartial review.
Thanks for the review, interesting and informative (although I am not a Sony user). It seemed to me that the Nikon AF-S 18-55 / 3,5-5,6 would be sharper and more interesting (and indeed I had very good impressions from him).
The main advantage of this glass is -1) very small size .. 2) the universality of focal. Together with a NEX or ALFA carcass, you get a tiny camera!
This is very important for those who travel on foot, or on a bicycle, or go to the mountains, also well suited for street photos. Shooting in RAW you get a well-controlled image with a normal resolution. So it has a right to exist.
“Additional digital zoom can be turned off in the menu” And in which menu item you can turn it on. I have a sony a6000, something I have not found anywhere, stops at 50. Or is it already in the a6300 that they made such an addition with 4x digital zoom?
all found. It turns out this function is only for jpeg
in the a6300 section "gear" item "Settings. increase ”. There you can choose 2X or 4X or no digital zoom.
Thank you, Arkady, for the answer.
Dear Arkady, Your site is like a reference book for me! Creative success in the New Year! ...
Thank you :)
Can these lenses be shot macro upside down with a reverse ring?
Tell me, for a SONY NEX 900 camcorder - will this lens fit?
Tell me, please, is this lens suitable for the Sony NEX-900 camcorder?
Lord, well advise, brothers in Christ, not quite a mile-price object - (better from amateurs, the pros will now immediately put mowers at 60-100). Video, specifically video, photo does not interest, 100 years of photographing Sonya Alpha 300 and mobile phones, and now with a shit phone 7+, took 6300
I have a similar lens on the lumix, when turned on, if it was not allowed to move forward, it says “lens error”, moves back and knocks out the camera.
Tiny and compact are probably the only advantages of this whale lens. Due to the fact that Samsung stopped releasing its excellent cameras, I decided to switch to another brand, and the choice was on the Sony a6000 with the whale SELP1650.
As a result, I am completely upset. Before that I had an NX-1000 with a 30mm f / 2 pancake. And I completely forgot the concept of soap. And now this freak reminds me of it with all his might! (there are simply no other words!) And he also has a price! I think - overpayment for the brand ... Still, I got on the wrong track ... :(
You compare a whale pancake with a fix ...
I have a Samsung nx300 with a whale lens 18-55, and also have a 30/2 mm lens for the Samsung. Reading a laudatory reviews about Sony Nex cameras, Sony decided to buy a Sony Nex6.
Conducted testing. You can’t call me a professional, you can be quite a savvy amateur. What I saw on Sonya struck me unpleasantly. Sony is inferior to Samsung in all respects. And in the apartment in general, it’s scary to look at the quality of Sony’s photos. I'm not talking about the 30-ke, which is an order of magnitude better. When I bought Sony, I thought to sell my Samsung in the future, though, he has excellent photos. Now I will sell Sony. Yes, with good optics, Sony will probably show a good result, but where does this praise Sonya and the nurturing of Samsung come from? Is that custom articles? You, Arkady, have praised the Nex5. I do not want to take this as an advertisement for Samsung, but what I saw leads to sad thoughts.
I use this on the A5000. In general, I really like it. Compact, lightweight.
I’m shooting landscapes and street photography for them.
Suitable for portraits with a stretch. At first he used Helios through an adapter. Later I bought a native sel5018.
I have such a lens fell from a meter and a half to the floor, it began to wedge the electronic zoom ring. After some time, it completely jammed, the camera stopped seeing him. Flimsy turned out to be. In the lightroom, the processing was not very color rendering, dirty colors, chromatic aberration. I put another lens, it became much better. I do not advise anyone to such a whale.
About repair Sony SELP1650 https://pikabu.ru/story
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