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  1. Sergei
    28.03.2016

    First, thanks for the info Ark…. Good customers, photos, models, money ……

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      Thank you :) I would have extra 20-30 hours in a day and life would have been better

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  2. Vladimir
    28.03.2016

    Thanks, informative. Although I do not use LR. :)

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  3. Paul
    28.03.2016

    Here, thank you !!! Very useful information, read with pleasure.

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  4. anonym
    28.03.2016

    Why increase the sharpness in lightroom, if you are going to cut further in Photoshop? For me, if you go on with Photoshop, then do the sharpness in Photoshop. Otherwise, after the first command, the "curves" all the halos will come out

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      Everything is quite simple. Lightroom draws sharpness directly from the buyer. If you export to typhoid or jeepeg, then the sharpness in Photoshop stretches already from a debayerezed picture, which is worse. Also, not all photos will then be processed by Lightrum, as indicated at the beginning of the article, I use this method when I plan to batch process.
      + In LR you can achieve a balance between sharpness and noise reduction. Shumodav with RAW-files allows you to achieve more detail than the subsequent noise reduction in Photoshop from typhoid or jeep.
      Yes, and this is my technique, which I got used to and optimized it for my purposes. For other purposes, there may be other operation / processing algorithms.

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  5. Alexander Malyaev
    28.03.2016

    Lightroom for developing with Nikon is kind of not very good ...?
    Can someone describe the algorithm of actions for batch development in CaptureNX with export to tiff and further batch development in Lightroom? What adjustments should be made to the raw nef at the CaptureNX stage (except for distortion correction), and which are later to Lightroom?

    PS Now I'm developing in CaptureNX, I'm finishing in Photoshop - well, but for a long time. You can't do that with episodes.

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  6. Sergei
    28.03.2016

    Arkady, what RAW settings do you use in the camera settings - lossless or uncompressed compression? Is there a difference in post processing?

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      The difference is minimal. The question is covered here. https://radojuva.com.ua/2012/08/12-bit-raw-vs-14-bit-raw/

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      • Sergei
        28.03.2016

        Thank you, I certainly read your article about RAW settings, I thought maybe what has changed in the digital world.

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        28.03.2016

        Something will really change when they release a camera with 16-bit ditches. Theoretically, then the difference between 12 and 16 bits when drawn from shadows and lights will be visible to the naked eye.

        Clever guys somewhere once cut out 14 bits of data from 12-bit ras (filled them with zeros) and showed what was left of it. And very little remained - only faint contours and a minimum of detail. There is, of course, an advantage, but even 12 bits is quite enough for easy conversion to “primitive” 8-bit JPEG.

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  7. Gene jb
    28.03.2016

    A lot of interesting things, but ... Lightroom, for example, seems to me to process images worse than DPP. In particular, this applies to noise. In lightroom, it is standard, as in all programs, but in DPP it actually removes it.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      DPP is praised by many. But does DPP seem to be just for Canon CR / cr2?

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      • Michael
        28.03.2016

        Namely, only for Canon. Nice program.

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  8. Michael
    28.03.2016

    I have a similar algorithm of actions, however, I do it all in Photoshop - Lightroom wildly slows down on the tablet. They still have the same camera raw. After processing in Camera RAW, I immediately batch convert all photos to JPEG with noise suppression and sharpening in Photoshop using Action. Then I just look at the photos on the big screen and mark those that require individual refinement and bring them up.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      By the way, yes, who did not know, ACR and Adobe Lightroom use the same engine (process) of debayerization. Although, in Lightroom, it seems, the engine can be selected manually.

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  9. Edward
    28.03.2016

    Arkady, thanks for the review.
    Special thanks for the explanation with the preview.
    When I just started studying LightRoom, I just can’t understand why it first shows a beautiful, rich picture, and then turns it into gray and dull something.
    What was amazing - FastStone immediately showed a bright picture.

    Then I loaded the camera profiles, it became easier.
    I continue to master LightRoom, it was interesting to read about your processing process.

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  10. anonym
    28.03.2016

    If in the future I plan to modify the photos in Adobe Photoshop, then I use the format 'TIFF' or 'DNG'. Perhaps it doesn’t make sense to export to 'TIFF', 'DNG' is an extra file on a disk from Lightroom, you can directly enter Adobe Photoshop for further editing and open the file immediately in Lightroom with changed settings in TIFF format, saving space.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      Yes, that’s also possible. I'm just used to the fact that after the processing stage in the Republic of Latvia I already have all the photos for further revision (after export). For example, the next day, you can immediately start picking any photo in Photoshop without starting LR. Of course, exporting takes both time and disk space.

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      • Valery A.
        28.03.2016

        Please tell me, what color space should I use in the camera - sRGB or adobeRGB?

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        28.03.2016

        This is a difficult philosophical question. The camera will tell you adobe is for professional processing on a computer, and srbg is multi-purpose space. If you do not know what adobe is for, then definitely put the usual sRGB. I am using sRGB.

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      • Valery A.
        29.03.2016

        Thank you for the answer and informative lecture.

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      • Michael
        29.03.2016

        And one more small addition: sRGB is a standard for viewing images from a browser. So if you don't want to print, it's best to store your files in sRGB.

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      • anonym
        29.03.2016

        You can simply put a red or yellow label in Lightroom - which will mean for further processing in Photoshop, and apply a filter for further viewing.

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  11. Anatoly
    28.03.2016

    Something Radozhiva turns into a really yellow press ...

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      nothing, the 'HUE' in the yellow channel needs to be shifted slightly and the yellow will not be yellow at all.

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  12. Oleg
    28.03.2016

    Thank you!

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  13. anonym
    28.03.2016

    Very interesting, for more such reviews. Thanks.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.03.2016

      This is an article) but I understood the hint)

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  14. pchel
    28.03.2016

    Generally gorgeous! All on the shelves and understandable even to fragile minds. No water and extra info clogging the beginner’s head!
    This is what I missed - the impetus to understand the _system_. Usually rules on a computer with minimal changes - sometimes adjust the contrast, horizon, tighten shadows. Sometimes it took a lot of time inaccurately, it was not clear why to start.
    A similar technique can be applied to any batch processing software. Thanks!
    I look forward to posts with examples of cases where there is a need for further edits, special cases, handling rare situations.
    Thank you!

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    • pchel
      28.03.2016

      No wonder they say that the best article is an article, after which you immediately want to immediately start doing something (sawing, planing, repairing, running to the store to buy, and finally, editing all the old RAVs!)

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        28.03.2016

        Well, the article is actually about very simple, primitive settings in Lightroom, with which my processing begins. I just ran into the fact that people start poking around in the LR not with the basic “alignment” of photos, but immediately go into presets and take super-acid photos with the settings “twisted” absolutely mindlessly.

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      • pchel
        28.03.2016

        Keep it up! A systematic approach is the most correct one. In fact, there is not a single extra word in the article. So it should be, from scratch - and on the shelves.
        Everything, even tomorrow and to work, now I put LR to practice the methodology. Hands combed.

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  15. Valerii
    28.03.2016

    I Lightrum somehow not very. Here is the native ViewNX and in Photoshop, this is it! Colors work better.

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    • fotika
      29.03.2016

      photoJus uses the same camera module equal. the colors when developing a ravah will be the same as in LR.
      and NX native imitates JPG immediately inside the camera, because it seems that it's better.

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      • Valerii
        29.03.2016

        I agree with you and my lightroom is now updated and I like the tools in it, but somehow it did not go. Conducted an experiment, processed the image in LR and through a couple of hours the same raw image in V-NX, fully converted. As a result, I liked the latter more.

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  16. Peter Sh.
    28.03.2016

    I use Lightroom constantly, much more than Nikon's native software.
    Due to the specifics of shooting, you almost always have to fight against noise (not to be confused with grain), and he copes with them simply with a bang. Basically, I use a color neutralizer (or whatever it's called there) to clean up Nikon’s beloved yellow-green noise in the shadows. It is precisely in this way that the effect of felt-tip coloring does not come out at the end of the process, and grain remains. I highly recommend it.

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  17. Anton
    28.03.2016

    Everything is written correctly. Itself has long developed for itself such a processing algorithm. I just started doing without lightroom right away I start work with a photo shop or rather from a raw camera. Have a great shot!

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    • BB
      06.04.2016

      When the expense of one photo shoot goes to thousands, then you will understand the delights of LR))

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  18. Alexander Malyaev
    28.03.2016

    After reading the article, I decided to check everything again (what if what has changed in three years), played the same nef-ki in DxO 10.5, Lightroom 6.5 and CaptureNX 2.4.7 (all before applying filters), and was very surprised: Lightroom turned out to be very, very close to CaptureNX, and DxO embellished it - made the image a little juicier and more contrasting, histograms confirmed. Perhaps I'll take a closer look at Lightroom again. Thank you, Arkady!

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  19. Dude
    29.03.2016

    All these lightrooms and photoshops are certainly good only until you know about DxO Optics Pro 10.4.0, as soon as you recognize this program and try, you won’t be interested in anything else. All these plastic faces and strange noise, color distortion, etc. With DxO Optics Pro 10.4.0, all this is in the past. For example, tinting the skin in Photoshop is so long and boring in this program, everything is simple and fast, then in the Kapchura plugged in a little and you have a beautiful face, the main texture is natural, the face seems to just get younger .Could demonstrate all this but such a size to What you can insert here will not allow you to see all the charm of reincarnation.
    Try and feel the real quality.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      29.03.2016

      One here recently told me that GIMP is our everything, and Photoshop is nothing. But the reality is that the prevalence of Photoshop, the number of lessons on it and its absolutely limitless possibilities will keep people using Photoshop for a long time. For example, can DxO Optics typeset a book? Or DxO Optics can work with layers?
      Rav-converter, such as LR or xO Optics, in principle cannot be compared with Photoshop, these are programs for different purposes. What they have in common is that they can all work with images.

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      • Vitalij
        07.02.2021

        how do you look at the photo processing on Linux? the same darktable or https://rawtherapee.com/

        Or is it worth switching to Windows for this? (lightroom, photoshop)

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  20. Dude
    29.03.2016

    DxO Optics Pro 10.4.0 and all of your Photoshop are smoky aside.

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    • fotika
      29.03.2016

      Photoshop program is very versatile, it is stupid to compare DX or NX kapchur. And if you get smart, then capture one pro have some fun together (if you have a cool SF).

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  21. Dmitriy
    29.03.2016

    Thank you!, Informatively, for the camera profiles, a special thank you.

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  22. Vladimir
    29.03.2016

    A really useful article for beginners, I really missed this 3 years ago, thanks

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    • Lynx
      29.03.2016

      um .. have you been waiting for an article on the basics of working with lightroom for three years ??? O_O

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      • Vladimir
        29.03.2016

        no, trial method and experience = good teachers

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      • Lynx
        29.03.2016

        Well, it's just the very first steps in the lightroom, described in any initial manual, I'm trying to understand how I can work in it for 3 years and consider this article (for completely newcomers) useful.

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      • Vladimir
        30.03.2016

        read carefully, I missed this article 3 years ago, I had to poke myself in the sliders,

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      • Lynx
        30.03.2016

        Approx.

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  23. Eugene
    29.03.2016

    Arkady, thanks for the informative article that made you reconsider your amateurish approach to lightroom. Is there a similar article on photoshop planned in the future, or is it already secret information / know-how with which workshops and master classes are usually arranged?

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      29.03.2016

      Yes, there is no secret information. There is a whole lot of techniques for Photoshop, depending on the type of photography and the task at hand.

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  24. Pastor
    29.03.2016

    The article is excellent, very clearly and step by step everything is described. It will be very useful for beginners. Just super article, it should be in the top 5 articles joyful :)

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  25. Alexander
    29.03.2016

    I read the full article, and was pleasantly surprised that the technology developed by trial and error for 80-90% coincides with yours.
    As always, everything is written sequentially, accessible and technically competent! Thanks!

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