Impression of the Sony A7II

Sony a7II

Sony a7II (body)

The Sony A7II was introduced on November 20, 2014 and is a sequel / replacement for the Sony A7. In short, the Sony A7II is a redesigned and redesigned Sony A7. In this post I want to describe the differences between the Sony A7 and Sony A7II, as well as share my impressions of working with this camera.

Differences between Sony A7II and Sony A7

  • Sony A7II was released 13 months later, after the announcement of the Sony A7.
  • The main difference between cameras is the built-in image stabilizer. The built-in stabilizer of the Sony A7 II works very well, the whole Internet has been rattling about the “5-axis” stabilization in Sony mirrorless cameras for a long time. The principle of operation of the stabilizer is clearly shown in official video.
  • Sony A7II has a different body. First of all, the Sony A7 II has a larger grip for a comfortable grip. Sony A7II has gotten thicker, the shutter button has moved to a different, more convenient place. On top of the Sony A7II, an additional 'C2' programmable button has been added. Thus, the Sony A7 II has one more button. The Sony A7II's flash hot shoe is black. The body itself has become stronger, in particular, the bayonet mount has become stronger. Unlike Sony A7, the new model the whole body is made of magnesium alloy. Sony A7 also had a plastic front panel.
  • The Sony A7II uses a 1.228.800 dots display (640 X 480 X 4 RGBW subpixels) versus 921.600 (640 X 480 X 3 RGB sub pixels) dots on the Sony A7. The Sony A7 II display, in addition to RGB pixels, also has W pixels (white). The maximum tilt angles have also changed, the Sony A7II display may deviate a little further. In practice, the difference between displays is very small.
  • Sony A7II can now record video using a video codec XAVC S., while a bitrate of 50Mbps. It’s unfortunate that there is no 7K video in the Sony A4 II.
  • Sony A7II can use gamma curve S-LOG2 (selectable in PP7) which expands the dynamic range. Video users should appreciate S-LOG2 and PP (Picture Profiles). PP profiles can be flexibly configured in the camera menu. PP descriptions can be found here.
  • Sony A7II became heavier by 125 grams.
  • It is stated that the Sony A7 II now focuses 30% faster than the Sony A7. The focus sensor sensitivity range has increased from 0 - 20 EV to -1 - 20 EV. In practice, I didn't notice much difference in focusing speed and accuracy. The Sony A7 II and Sony A7 use the same hybrid focusing system with 117 phase focusing sensors. With lens Sony SEL2470Z the camera sometimes lost its subject and was generally far less focused than many simple phase-detection DSLRs. I think that the Sony A7II has only software improvements to the focusing system and it still has not grown even to the level of amateur SLR cameras, while I am already silent about 'serious DSLRs' with powerful phase focusing systems. On the Internet I come across a lot of not entirely truthful information, which praises the autofocus of the Sony a7 / Sony a7 II, but the creators of such praises probably never filmed any more or less serious reportage where the focusing of the Sony A7 II can float a lot (in comparison with the SLR cameras).
  • Sony A7II has improved metering system exposure, the sensitivity of which is now -1 - 20 EV, versus 0 - 20 EV for the Sony A7.
  • Sony A7II has less lag when turned on.
  • Sony A7II can now use the VG-C2EM battery grip, which holds 2 batteries for longer battery life.
  • Sony A7II has a choice RAW compression mode ('.ARW) files. With the Sony A7II, you can get uncompressed RAW files that weigh 49-50 MB. The Sony A7 did not have such a feature and many complained that its 'shaken' RAW could not convey the full potential of the sensor. Frame buffer when shooting in uncompressed RAW format is about 10 frames.
  • There are also other small differences, such as: a slightly different maximum number of frames per battery charge, the Sony A7II has a flash power lock function, etc.

JPEG source files can be downloaded at this link (28 files, 300 MB).

More examples of photos taken on the Sony a7II in different conditions can be found in the review. Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar FE 4 / 24-70 ZA OSS T * (Sony SEL2470Z FE 4 / 24-70 Optical Steady Shot) and in review Canon Lens FD 50mm 1: 1.8.

Sony A7II and Sony A7 use the same matrix and create 99% identical photos (unless the potential of PP and uncompressed RAW is used on Sony A7 II), you will find a lot of examples of photos on Sony A7 in my her review.

My experience

I absolutely love the Sony A7II and its stabilization system. The stabilizer works even with lenses from third-party manufacturers, including manual lenses without microprocessor contacts. To make everything work as expected in the 'SteaaxdyS Settings.' -> 'Fock. dist. SteadyS. ' you need to specify the real focal length of the lens. For example, for a manual lens Canon Lens FD 50mm 1: 1.8 I have specified the value '50 mm '. The focal length can be selected from 8 to 1000 mm. If for Canon Lens FD 50mm 1: 1.8 try to increase the work of the stabilizer and instead of '50 mm 'choose the value' 1000 mm ', then the effect will be the opposite - in EVI the picture will shake much more strongly, even in comparison with the disabled stabilizer.

When working with lenses that already have an integrated image stabilizer, the camera stabilizer works in conjunction with the lens stabilizer. In this case, the camera stabilizer performs only part of the compensation for camera / lens shake, the rest is taken up by the lens. The stabilizer can only be turned on simultaneously on the camera and on the lens, or simultaneously turned off on the camera and on the lens (for Sony FE lenses). You will find more information on the joint work of stabilizers in this section.

The base model Sony A7 was originally marketed as a compact camera, its mirrorless nature allowed it to be reasonably thin, light and small, but it ended up with a controversial control with an awkward grip. But the Sony A7II already has a much larger body and resembles SLR cameras in size and appearance. It was not possible to make a compact camera with a full-frame sensor. And the compactness of a mirrorless system with a full-frame matrix is ​​more of a myth, since the lenses themselves, which are necessary to cover the 36 * 24 matrix, are quite large.

In general, the Sony A7II is a real find for lovers of manual optics, as well as an excellent thing for amateurs and professionals who are engaged in video shooting.

Sony ILCE-7M2 (Sony a7II)

Sony ILCE-7M2 (Sony a7II) with a manual lens fifty dollars Canon Lens FD 50mm 1: 1.8

Real prices for Sony a7 II in popular online stores can look at this link, or in the price block below:
All prices on Sony A7 II body


In comments Can I ask you a question on the topic and you will answer, and you can also express your opinion or describe your experience. Many little things for a photo can be found on AliExpress.

Results

The Sony A7II is a redesigned and refined version of the Sony A7. Sony A7II received excellent built-in stabilization system, uncompressed RAW, slightly improved focus and metering systems exposure, updated design and materials of the case, added advanced features for video shooting. If you take the stabilizer with the Sony A7II (turn off), then this camera repeats the Sony A90 7%.

All Sony FE Lenses and Cameras

Fixes:

  1. Sony FE 14 mm F / 1.8 GM [April 2021, AliExpress price]
  2. Sony FE 20 mm F / 1.8 G [February 2020, AliExpress price]
  3. Sony FE 24 mm F / 1.4 GM [September 2018, AliExpress price]
  4. Sony FE 24 mm F / 2.8 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
  5. Sony FE 28 mm F / 2.0 [March 2015, AliExpress price]
  6. Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 GM [January 2021, AliExpress price]
  7. Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 ZA [August 2014]
  8. Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.8 [July 2019, AliExpress price]
  9. Sony FE 35 mm F / 2.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
  10. Sony FE 40 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
  11. Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.2 GM [March 2021, AliExpress price]
  12. Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 ZA [July 2016]
  13. Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2023]
  14. Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.8 [March 2016, AliExpress price]
  15. Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.8 Macro [August 2016]
  16. Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021]
  17. Sony FE 55 mm F / 1.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
  18. Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
  19. Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.8 [February 2017, AliExpress price]
  20. Sony FE 90 mm F / 2.8 Macro G OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
  21. Sony FE 100 mm F / 2.8 STF GM OSS [February 2017]
  22. Sony FE 135 mm F / 1.8 GM [February 2019, AliExpress price]
  23. Sony FE 300 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [November 2023]
  24. Sony FE 400 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [June 2018]
  25. Sony FE 600 mm F / 4 GM OSS [June 2019]

Zuma:

  1. Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 2.8 GM [July 2020, AliExpress price]
  2. Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 4 G [May 2017, AliExpress price]
  3. Sony FE 16-25 mm F / 2.8 G [April 2024]
  4. Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM [May 2017, AliExpress price]
  5. Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM II [August 2023]
  6. Sony FE 16-35 mm T / 3.1 PZ G C [November 2020]
  7. Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [September 2014, AliExpress price]
  8. Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 PZ G [March 2022, AliExpress price]
  9. Sony FE 20-70 mm F / 4 G  [January 2023]
  10. Sony FE 24-50 mm F / 2.8 G [February 2024]
  11. Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
  12. Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM II [April 2022, AliExpress price]
  13. Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
  14. Sony FE 24-105 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2017, AliExpress price]
  15. Sony FE 24-240 mm F / 3.5-6.3 OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
  16. Sony FE 28-60 mm F / 4-5.6 [September 2020, AliExpress price]
  17. Sony FE 28-70 mm F / 3.5-5.6 OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
  18. Sony FE 28-135 mm F / 4 G PZ OSS [September 2014]
  19. Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [October 2017]
  20. Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS II [October 2021]
  21. Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
  22. Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 Macro OSS II [July 2023]
  23. Sony-FE 70-300 mm F / 4.5-5.6 G OSS [March 2016]
  24. Sony FE 100-400 mm F / 4.5-5.6 GM OSS [April 2017, AliExpress price]
  25. Sony FE 200-600 mm F / 5.6-6.3 G OSS [June 2019, AliExpress price]

Autofocus full-frame lenses for Sony E / FE mount are also available from other manufacturers:

All Full Frame Sony E-mount Cameras

Materials on the topic

  1. Full frame mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
  2. Cropped mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
  3. Cropped mirrorless systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
  4. Digital SLR systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
  5. JVI or EVI (an important article that answers the question 'DSLR or mirrorless')
  6. About mirrorless batteries
  7. Simple and clear medium format
  8. High-speed solutions from Chinese brands
  9. All fastest autofocus zoom lenses
  10. All fastest AF prime lenses
  11. Mirrored full frame on mirrorless medium format
  12. Autofocus Speed ​​Boosters
  13. One lens to rule the world
  14. The impact of smartphones on the photography market
  15. What's next (smartphone supremacy)?
  16. All announcements and novelties of lenses and cameras

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Comments: 141, on the topic: Impression of Sony A7II

  • Alexander

    The stability system is chic. Often the same are those who are unthinkable for the quick-knowledge.
    And if you are interested in the appearance of the original Sony LA-EA4 adapter module for Minolta AF, and in the vast homeland of the inexpensive used Minolta store, the A7-II is an even more attractive purchase.

  • Dmitry K

    Focusing just doesn’t come to us ... The range of autofocus sensitivity is the same as in a 7-year-old XNUMX, and in the first version it is even worse than a pretty penny.
    I went to the store recently - there the seller rubbed someone that canon / nikon was old and slag, you need to take a dormouse - it has a new autofocus, very cool, for a wedding it’s just that. And the glasses are great. Mdya

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Funny :) especially af on sony a7r

      • Dmitry K

        on A7r2 to -2 it is declared, on the first 0Ev. Given the lack of zooms with F2.8 is just a crap. Only fixes remain. Videographers are only a plus on this system. And manual.
        And on the third nickel, the car is stupid, and the second nickname is also terrible in autofocus, and on the d810 there is a lot of color of the curve and pixels, and on 700 ke it is not enough, how can I be?)))))

        • Czeslaw

          A little tip on d810: I learned how to set the white balance and exposure correctly, and you will be happy with color

        • Andrei

          listen to you so the whole world of UG.
          Meanwhile, millions of people use crop, and billions of soap dishes and they are all happy -)

        • Dmitry K

          Well, that was the humor section. Collected all the stereotypes about cameras in a bunch, the list goes on. There will always be cameras with strengths and weaknesses. And I want everything at once))) I have seven hundred - I will look like this, look at everything around and think that I will still take pictures

    • Vladimir

      Focus is just not coming to us ...

      Physics and optics is very difficult to undo.

    • Ingvard

      If the seller had in mind autofocus Sony A77II, then he is not far from the truth. Although you can argue until hoarseness. 80% in 90% of cases use one focus point in everyday life)))

  • Vladimir

    Objectivity and truth are the main thing.

  • anonym

    Great camera! I will be destined to take 135 2.0 ais for my Nikanorich

  • Artem

    If you need a compact camera, then the Olympus OM-D EM series is ours all :)

    • anonym

      Your Olympus is a crop from a crop for a horse price! Olympus uses 4/3 matrices and comparing it to a fullframe is ridiculous!

      • Artem

        And I did not compare with the full frame, I just said about compactness :)

      • Kotofalk

        Well, there’s no need to fix it here, the matrix is ​​even square, because the maximum area for optics is maximum, but in fact the practicality is the same, as on aps-c, only the width is smaller, which is stronger than the change in optics and dimensions.

        • Artem

          I don't bach ...

      • Artyom

        However, the most popular photographer of the most popular site of photographers 500pix shoots on Olympus;)

      • Alex

        It's not funny but the camera shoots and focuses at almost dusk. 1-15 hand exposure with a stub - super shots are obtained.

    • Lynx

      then immediately nikon1.

      • VK

        I would not be so sarcastic about Olik and those who advise him. Oliki make very good cameras. From _ne_ fullframe there are two mirrorless choices: Fuj and Olik. With the release of the A7 on Sony, there is no hope, she put on a full frame, and the line of cameras and the output of new lenses will slow down.

        • Lynx

          The conversation that was dragging on was not about sarcasm, but about size.

  • Ruslan

    The conclusion is like re-counting to itself - "Sony A7II is indeed a major improvement of the previous version of Sony A7." but "If you take (turn off) the stabilizer from the Sony A7II, then this camera is 90% similar to the Sony A7"
    So all the same, a major improvement, or apart from the stabilizer, nothing much has changed?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Fixed

    • Dmitry K

      well, a stub is not a little, but a stub EVERYWHERE, even on manual non-native glasses, is strong. Although the tripod is registered for manuals ... well, I'm shorter .. For an amateur system. On the video amateur, I would say. There, the stub will always come in handy.

  • Basil

    Great pictures! Still, 180 2.8 is a killer lens. Right now, I want to buy myself what it is, and in this regard, a question for connoisseurs, are the afto-focus versions of a hundred and eighties much better than ais?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      According to the picture, ai-s is the best, but with aph more convenient, MK4 af has excellent color rendition.

      • Basil

        Thank you so much for the advice !!

    • Jury

      Considering that for used ai-s, in good condition, they ask as much as for a used mk4 in excellent condition, the choice is obvious, in favor of mk4

      • Basil

        In fact, the choice is not at all obvious: I don't care about autofocus. Main quality!

  • varezhkin

    interesting, but how is heat removed from the hanging matrix? Is it overheating? Is there a risk of matrix tearing off even with a minor camera hit?

    • varezhkin

      and in general, how is heat removed from such a sensor?

      • anonym

        It is necessary to think more globally, if it hangs in a magnetic field and is not fixed in any way and does not rest on anything, then how is information read from it?))))

        • varezhkin

          come on, in a magnetic field ...

          • Lynx

            that's exactly how it hangs

      • Lynx

        I think there is a small aluminum / copper / silver radiator

        • anonym

          Thin how!

  • Sergei

    Color rendition as at NIKON D810

  • grandfather

    Sony steers!

  • Anatoly

    Yes…. The device is really super ...

  • anonym

    You read from her and everything in her is good, everything is combed, everything is as it should. And the stub is good, and compatibility is all sorts of different glass, even wrap and take off a half-liter jar, and all the pros in different fields, like reportage makers, wedding men, photojournalists, studio students are sitting on boots and on anti-boots. The conclusion is that it is for lovers. But just as well? Its price is like a good used SLR camera, and the glass is expensive and still not with not the best performance

    • BB

      Professionals often work with AF glasses, they already have an optics park and settled down. And Sonya’s one-and-a-half of his (new) af-glasses did. The system is relatively young + do not forget about the minuses of mirrorless mirrors, which have not disappeared. I must also say thank you that Sony has finally abandoned the Minoltovsky shoe, and there will be no need to fence adapters to connect the manual puff or synchronizer.

    • Vladimir Nick.

      THE REASON IS NOT AT ALL WHAT YOU WRITE ABOUT. EVERYTHING IS MUCH EASIER AND BANAL, GO TO DR. THE SYSTEM IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF LUXURY LENSES OF THE SERIES ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE FOR EXAMPLE 2-3 lenses at a price of 18-35 thousand UAH per piece, you will have to sell them for half the price, FF 7 series is slow and all pros need fast. This is the real reason. But in many respects: the maximum working ISO from 650-20000 (depending on the version), EVI, DD, rotary screen, weight, Focus picking and the ability to put any lens, no front / back focus, etc. THIS DOES NOT take away from Sony's mirrorless cameras. Now, through an adapter, I put Kenen lenses on the Sony A6300 and their speed in some conditions is even higher than on the native Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera, with the proviso that I checked it on 24-105 / 4, 35/2 with a stub and 85mm, the slowest is at 85 mm I don’t know why it might be because of the adapter or lens firmware

  • Dmitriy

    Friends, who can tell me how the problem of working in the studio with flashes was solved on A7 (1 and 2), when a hole up to 8-10 is closed and it is corny dark with such a hole without a flash? Is something visible in the EVI?

  • Dad

    thanks for the review.
    I’ve been reading this site for a long time, but here I looked at a review of this camera and is very much surprised at the picture, the photo is surprised. a feeling that they were photographed on an average whale lens. if I were told that these photos from the A7II are 180 mm, I would not have believed it. in these photos there is no artistry, not a bit, just a bare picture.

    • Maugli

      As for me, the picture (which the lens gives) is fully consistent with 180 / 2.8: strong compression, noticeably different even from 135mm, a characteristic background blur. Glasses 24-70 / 24-85 can not do this.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      More examples of photos taken on the Sony a7II in different conditions can be found in the review. Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar FE 4 / 24-70 ZA OSS T * (Sony SEL2470Z FE 4 / 24-70 Optical Steady Shot) and in review Canon Lens FD 50mm 1: 1.8.

    • Czeslaw

      The weather was cloudy - you can't open glass especially in this weather ...

    • Vladimir Nick.

      in principle, the volume of the picture, "artistry" and "bokeh" depends on the lens and not on the camera ff percent by 80-90% and maybe 99% in some cases, as well as on the aperture at the time of shooting and of course on the focal length , the most voluminous without distortion, as for me, from 70-135mm with a hole of 2-2.8, which cannot be said about 16-28 mm and even with 5.6-11, if we talk about a full frame of course

  • anonym

    Sorry for the "off topic" Canon has announced a new FF! The race continues! http://prophotos.ru/news/17824-canon-eos-1d-x-mark-ii

    • Lynx

      “. A second generation Intelligent Viewfinder with nearly 100% frame coverage displays current shooting settings, ”
      almost .. The top camera has almost 100% coverage ..
      NEARLY!!! CHARLES!
      I don’t even see the point of reading further.

  • Oleg

    I absolutely love the Sony A7II and its stabilization system. The stabilizer works even with lenses from third-party manufacturers, including manual lenses - CEP, is that you ?!

  • Pasheka

    The photo is super and the price too!

  • IZELBOR

    Here they expressed the opinion that the D7000 is not very good with colors, and not only with skin color, but also with the color of the grass and sky, and in general. What do you mean? - JPG or RAW? Are you talking about neutral color setting in Picture Control or standard? Again, you can load your own files, for example, imitating various types of films from Fuji and other films. In theory, you can customize it, or is it about color rendition out of the box with standard settings?

    • Lynx

      about "in general"

  • anonym

    We are talking about “I bought a camera, there was not enough money for direct hands”. Although autofocus is really weird in it.

  • Jury

    I looked at the picture. And it seemed to me that the picture of the matrix from Sonya is a little smeared out, in contrast to the same Konon. As the effect of colors, or something. Have you noticed anything like this?

  • Jury

    Which is better if you drop the price, Canon 6d, Nikon d750 or a7 II. It is planned to use liveview, so I would like to quickly focus through it.
    Thank you

  • alexey

    How many saw pictures from Sonya, they are all some kind of narrative, as in life. Ordinary in art is unacceptable.

    • Serg_XXL

      Perhaps the fact is that when they get such a sophisticated device in their hands, happy owners try to take pictures of everything around as much as possible, not bothering too much with questions of artistic style, composition, etc. These are my personal observations of two acquaintances who bought the A7II and practically didn’t take their finger off the trigger. As for the routine, it’s probably like an old joke: “Are you sick? No-ahh, I just forgot to put on makeup! ” - now everything is decided by photo editors and finding a masterpiece without post-processing is as difficult as meeting innocence on the track….

  • zengarden

    They announced such a thing: Techart PRO AF Leica M lens adapter for Sony E
    http://photorumors.com/2016/02/11/techart-pro-af-leica-m-lens-adapter-for-sony-e-mount-cameras-officially-announced/
    It’s possible to make Leica manual lenses autofocus :) it’s not clear why ...
    This miracle costs $ 349 for pre-order + $ 70 adapters from other systems.

    • Jazzlover

      Looked cool!
      At first I thought how did it work ???
      And all ingenious is simple! It has long been a thought, is it possible to do autofocus with manual lenses? It turns out that if you unscrew the focus to the minimum, and put the motor with the chip on the adapter, then you can!
      In a word, mirrorless have a great future!

  • Jazzlover

    Arkady, thanks for the interesting review.
    I watched the review about A7, frankly, the pictures did not impress me at all, there is no feeling that this is FF!
    I looked at your reviews of other lenses with the A7, looked at other reviews, looked at the photos on Flicr, and everywhere the same thing, according to my subjective feelings, all the pictures seemed to be taken on a cropped matrix!
    But looking at the photos from this review, you can immediately see that the pictures were taken on FF!
    What is the reason for this, if the matrices are the same, then why is there such a big difference in quality?
    Maybe because you used Nikon 180mm 2.8 in this review? Or did the Sony engineers do something about these two models? All the same, I suspect that the matter is in optics ...
    I watched the review 24-70, the quality was also not impressive ...

    • Arkady Shapoval

      There is no difference. There are only your expectations, unjustified expectations from ff.

  • Uxsofto

    Let me quote “many complained that her 'reaped' RAW could not convey the full potential of the matrix” here it is worth clarifying that these “many”, as it is correct, remove brick walls and test patterns. Those who are engaged in photography, not in tests, are satisfied. The closest example is Emin Kuliev. Especially pleasing are the comments from those who did not hold or take pictures in their hands ... "I would understand what"

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