Overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or a mirrorless camera in the hands of an amateur. Review from the reader Radozhiva.

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Review Fujifilm X-T10

Review Fujifilm X-T10

An overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or a mirrorless in the hands of an amateur, as well as: "mirrorless versus DSLRs - yes or no?"

All amusing nonsense is exclusively a lynx imha,

and based on the subjective experience of filming

to SLR and mirrorless cameras.

If you answer to the main question of the life of the universe and in general briefly and immediately - it all strongly depends on the requirements. In a considerable number of cases, the X-T10 / X-T1 is a very good replacement for an amateur DSLR (that's it, you don't have to read any further;)).

The exceptions, it seems to me, are:

  • professional reportage and its most difficult types (just do not confuse it with “reporter shooting” from pop concerts, performances of a children's sports school and club photos);
  • art and fashion shooting with high detail and shallow depth of field (if you have money for a medium format and optics for it, as well as understanding why this is necessary, this article is completely not for you)
  • Carrying a “cool cool DSLR” to impress customers and generally the feeling of working with “serious equipment” (yes, the ergonomics of mirrorless cameras are peculiar, and the look often “does not inspire confidence in“ serious people ”).

Most of the performance characteristics (matrices, dimensions, weight, etc.) can be viewed on the Internet, read the praises of the “original fuji matrix with a non-Bayer filter” (with which lightroom still works buggy, by the way) and learned phrases that “now you don’t need to wear a lot , and shoot for your own pleasure. "
Focus on honestly subjective.

Focusing

The most asked and controversial topic. The X-T10 has hybrid focusing - contrast focusing throughout the entire field of the frame, plus phase focusing along the central part of the frame, the coverage area of ​​the phase sensors is approximately comparable to those of Nikon D600. When choosing focus points, hybrid points are highlighted a little brighter than the rest. Focusing is fast, although it depends a lot on the lens, however, as always.

It is said that in cramped light conditions, the camera completely switches to contrast focusing, disabling the phase sensors. True or not, I don't know.

A very convenient option is to move around the frame not only one focus point, but also the “focus area” to several points, with adjustable size and proportions. A similar function (only without quick adjustment of the area) exists in professional DSLRs (for Nikon - starting with D200).

Focus Points Fujifilm X-T10

Usually, in mirrorless cameras, the joystick is configured like a “soap dish” - each button is assigned some action: changing the ISO / white balance / modes / selecting focus points. In the X-T10, in addition to this mode, you can turn on the “mode like a DSLR” - that is, four joystick buttons are immediately responsible for moving the focus point / area. And assign the desired adjustable parameters to the user settings screen - “Q”:

Fujifilm X-T10 Quick Menu

Focus Modes M / S / C? There is. Switch lever to the right of the bayonet. Classic.

Focusing with tracking objects on the frame field (what is called 3D focus in nikon)? There is. Although, it depends on the settings and contrast of the objects.

Face-based focusing? There is. In combination with the previous paragraph, it is very convenient to shoot children at play. And the ability to choose focusing according to the eyes, moreover, to choose from - on the left or right eye ...

Is the speed and focusing fast enough for amateur photography and general reportage? Definitely yes. At least, the focusing speed is not inferior (and sometimes exceeds in accuracy in dark conditions) the speed of my old s5pro, d90, d7000 and 3xxx / 5xxx series. Perhaps it may not be enough for professional reporting, but how many of those reading this are filming the Olympic Games?

A couple of subtleties:

  1. When shooting with continuous AF, the shutter mode must be “mechanical”. If the "electronic" or "electronic / mechanic" modes are selected, the focusing in the series will be performed on the first frame.
  2. There is such a very useful option as increasing the frame at the focus point by pressing the rear control dial (when viewing the footage it also works, by the way). Relevant for both manual and automatic focusing modes. Alas, it works only when focusing "one point".

Ergonomics

Just want to warn about one important point in the ergonomics of mirrorless cameras in general and “dozens” in particular. Unlike DSLRs, these are more like “left hand cameras”.
That is, it is easy to carry the camera “on the fingertips of the right hand " you are unlikely to succeed - your fingers will cramp, especially with a massive lens. The only exceptions are the configurations with a "kit", and 18 and 27 mm "pancakes". And this is the very feeling that the use of professional mirrors gives: "the camera is like an extension of the hand!" - will also be absent.

Despite some "oblique" models of the X-T series "for DSLRs" - all these thumb rests, a ledge on the pediment and other tricks, the principle of wearing system cameras is noticeably different from the central locking system. The first time you have to relearn.

An additional battle block / grip can partially correct the situation (at the same time making the camera more massive), bringing the ergonomics closer to the "mirror" one, but alas, for the X-T10 it is not provided even for the Chinese.
If only to do it yourself. ;)
From my current point of view, a Chinese leather sheath is enough. People with affluence and desire can buy the original case and additional grip from Fuji. Today it is about 4500 rubles for each point.

Fujifilm X-T10 with modding handle

For those who have spent a lot of time shooting with film SLRs and rangefinders (or had experience working with puppies;)), they will only have to remember old skills.

wearing exampleSo, the X-T10 is held in the left hand. Quite, just like the old zenith (or puppy): the thumb and forefinger form a “fork” for gripping and holding the lens, and the palm and other fingers hold the camera from below. It is comfortable, practical, leaves the right hand free, and protects the camera.
Wearing exampleYes, if you want to shoot with the camera stretched out and holding it in your right hand, this is a trick. However, with many lenses it will be difficult. Carrying in the left hand is much more convenient.

The complete neck strap, like most cameras, is hard. But high quality. True quality. And without the huge inscription "HEY PASSANS - HERE IS A DUDE WITH A MAGAZINE CAMERA!" So you can take a little time to knead it and get it fit.

If the neck strap is uncomfortable for you - I recommend putting a synthetic or leather wrist strap on the left - the belay and grip will definitely improve.

In general, Fuji and Olympus mirrorless cameras, with their ergonomics, dictate a slightly different shooting style than CZK. But we will consider the article “the influence of the type of camera on the psychological aspects of artistic creation” another time.

All buttons (except perhaps for the video recording button) are convenient and accessible, they are easily found blindly, they are pressed with good response, but without excessive stiffness.

The control wheels (both front and rear), in addition to rotation, can be pressed like buttons. On the front you can select an action, the back, by pressing, increases the focus area in full screen.

Turning on the camera - with a rotary lever around the shutter button, everything is like in Nikon.

All Fuji mirrorless cameras are used to control the exposure pair and modes: the aperture is set on the lens, and on the camera body - excerpt and exposure compensation. True, for several inexpensive lenses that do not have an aperture ring, the exposure is made by the control wheels, as in Nikon.
И excerpt and the diaphragm have the “A” position - auto in the extreme positions. By placing them in the “A” position in different combinations, we get modes M, A, S and P. Everything is simple and convenient.

In case you need to hand the camera into the hands of someone who is not familiar with the intricacies of shooting, there is an “auto” lever under the shutter speed dial, which turns the camera into “green” mode with tracking autofocus.

By the way, the mode is quite hysterical - for some reason it has a constant, non-disconnectable, tracking autofocus, so the lens constantly buzzes and fidgets. As it turned out, unprepared people are unnerved, as if they were given a small nimble animal.

On the left, on the top panel, there is a drive for selecting drive modes (single frame, fast and slow series), two types of brackets (according to exposure, types of films and more. Configured in the menu) of two types of filters (about them below), as well as panoramic shooting and multiple exposure... The latter is very conveniently implemented - after shooting the first frame, it is superimposed on the screen with a translucent background, so that you can see the combination of images.

Viewfinder and screen

The screen is typical for the present time, just over three inches, with good color rendering and angles. I recommend sticking a matte protective film or glass - it will be much more convenient to work under the bright sun. Leans back with the help of the protrusions on the left (they cling well with the nail of the index finger), down 45 and up 90 degrees.
Viewfinder… I've seen different viewfinders, both in old Fuji models, in sony-nex babies and in new Olympus. To be honest - this is the best! Both in colors and in detail. Subjectively, it is only slightly smaller than the viewfinder of a full-frame DSLR, but larger than on the crop, especially the “younger” one.

The viewfinder and screen can be switched using the proximity sensor and have 4 modes:

  • Only the screen works (constantly)
  • Only the viewfinder works (constantly)
  • The screen works, but when brought to the eye (about 5-7 cm), it switches to the viewfinder
  • Only the viewfinder works, but it turns on only when brought to the eye.

The “sleep” button is badly lacking, as it is, for example, implemented in modern cell phones - every time you click the switch gets tired.

Also, I would very much like the mode “in the viewfinder - the image, on the screen - only the settings and the quick user menu”.

As befits mirrorless, not related to technical parameters JVI - both the screen and the viewfinder can display a lot, a lot of any additional information, starting with ISO / shutter speed / aperture and ending with the virtual horizon and three types of manual focus assistance.
The main advantage EVI (and screen) Fuji was able to display the space with the already selected settings. Example photo on fujifilm X-T10

For example, if you shoot in manual mode and you twist the shutter speed and aperture too much, the camera will show you an almost black screen. Or strongly overexposed, depending on the parameters.

Example photo on fujifilm X-T10
And using the exposure compensation wheel (located on the top of the camera, on the right), you can easily choose the lighting of the frame, for example, when shooting an evening city - from light twilight to deep night with lights.

 

Menu

Everything is simple, convenient, concise, with a bunch of possible fine-tuning "for yourself".
The menu logic is closest to Nikon's - a vertical column of squares a1-a5 / s1-s3 to the left and pop-up menus from it. In the Russian version, you sometimes have to pry into the instructions what certain abbreviations mean. But in general, everything is clear.

Lenses

The first and most important thing about Fuji system lenses is that almost all of them are tops. Yes, that's right, there are practically no “cheap and compromise” glasses in fujiks, with the exception of a 27 mm fixer and several “whales” of standard focal lenses (16-50 and 55-200). And even in this case, the simplest 16-55 / 3,5-5,6 produces a very, very good picture.
Most of the fixes have aperture f / 1,4, some at f / 2, zooms from f / 2,8. The construction is almost always all-metal, without any rubber bands and plastic.
About any of the Fuji lenses, we can say: "Matsash in hands, sweep - a thing!"
The advantage of this approach is the fact that you really want to shoot with any of the lenses without bothering. The downside is the price. Who wants to be horrified by modern prices - welcome to the Yandex market.

Fuji lenses feature electronic control rings - transmission of zoom, aperture and focusing parameters is not mechanical, but electronic. On the one hand, it allows you to make smooth adjustment when shooting a video, as well as full dust and moisture resistance of the lens. On the other hand, you will also have to get used to this, the reaction of the lenses is not as unambiguous as with mechanical control.

But there is a fairly large stroke of the focus ring, about two turns from MDF to infinity, which gives great opportunities when shooting.

I happened to shoot on 4 lenses of the Fujifilm system:

  1. 16-50 / 3,5-5,6. The standard and most common whale. Plastic, although the design completely repeats the older brothers. There is no aperture ring - aperture and stabilizer control - from the carcass, like in a DSLR. The first version was boring in drawing, but not bad in sharpness (it is often preferred to the more expensive 18-55 / 2,8-4), the second - they say even better, but I have not yet got my hands on it. Built-in good stabilizer.
  2. 35 / 1,4. Amazing "normal" lens. Sharpness, drawing, constructive - everything is on top! Completely metallic. Has a diaphragm ring. It can be safely recommended as a standard and main lens for creative and family photography.
  3. Example photo on fujifilm X-T1023 / 1,4. Very nice shirik with a huge aperture and no less enormous price. Cut across the entire field almost immediately from the open. For its characteristics, it is quite compact, although not easy, all the same it is a metal structure. Switching to manual mode - like on Tokina lenses - you need to pull the focusing wheel towards you, opening the distance scale and depth of field. Among the shortcomings - except that the focusing ring and aperture rotate very easily, sometimes they get confused by a simple touch with a finger.
  4. LYNX2879_for review18/2. Reporting staff. EGF - 27 mm, classic reportage focal length of film times. Often they swear at him that he lathers the edges on an open aperture, but personally this does not really bother me. But it is very compact (the camera fits in a jacket pocket with it), relatively inexpensive and fast in focusing. And it also has its own, quite soulful pattern with volume. The focus and aperture rings are metal, with a tight, pleasant ride.

 

 

Accumulators

Yes, they do not last long - from 300 to 600 frames (someone mentioned 1000), depending on the mode of use, and you need to monitor / turn off the camera so that it does not eat too much (although there is a sleep timer). Yes, it's best to always have a spare with you. Yes, it is better to take the original, and not China (which are at least a third less capacious, and in general can glitch or burn out at any time. Yes, this is not cheap - the original now costs about 1,6-2,5 thousand (although you can manage to take it in within a thousand with all sorts of discounts).
Battery charging time is about an hour and a half in a situation "Oh, I ought to charge!" and about two are able "Well, everyone, we have arrived".

About color and light

Canonists, judging by the reviews on the forum, do not notice any losses in the dynamic range when switching to fujik. In flowers - they are very happy.
Nikonists, especially those with multi-pixel cameras (D610 / D7100), may find the dynamic range in jeepgs to be too small in highly contrasting scenes. But the raves are practically the same "stringy" as those of Nikon, and the colors and skin tone are undoubtedly better.

An example is a jeep without treatment, a jeep with extended shadows at +100 in lightrum, and a rav with extended shadows at +100 in lightroom:

Personally, after the "soak", with its huge DD in the jeepgs, I had to remember about raves and master Capture One, but the colors did not disappoint.

Flash work

With outbreaks, Fuji is a little complicated and a bit simple.

Difficult - because the system is new, and the models of third-party manufacturers of TTL-flashes for them - the cat cried, now there is only Meike-320 - a small two-battery, but quite successful model and Nissin-40i - a classic model with a swivel head, although the dimensions are slightly smaller than usual ...

Simply - because there are only three “native” flashes, you will not get confused:

  • EF-42, amateur classic flash, analogue of sb-700 - 4 batteries, swivel and lifting head, guide number - 42. There is autofocus illumination, but no remote control system. For mirrorless cameras - definitely large and inconvenient. Apparently it was developed "in spite of mirror makers."
  • EF-20, small dual-battery flash with the ability to "swing up". Control - through the camera menu, the guide number is 20. It couldn't be easier and, to be honest, uglier too.
  • EF-X20 flash on tripodEF-X20, a tiny “matchbox”, a guide number of 20, control - a single power and correction wheel on the top edge, a power button and a “Test” button. No zoom, no rotations, only built-in wide-angle adapter with lever. Among the shortcomings - perhaps not too fast a recharge cycle: 5-6 seconds at 1/1 power, and almost instantaneous starting from 1/4 and below. In addition to TTL and manual mode, it has the ability to remotely ignite from the built-in flash. The most stylish and convenient of the three (yes, it has AAA batteries, so you need a spare one).
  • There are rumors about a new "reporting" outbreak from Fuji, but so far there are no clear descriptions yet.

EF-X20 with cover:

flash EF-X20 kitflash EF-X20 comparison
X-T10 Flash Remote Control:

  1. for EF-X20 - by “ignition” from the built-in flash, in manual mode. At the same time, the bottom of the flash has a switch for TTL-mode, manual tracking, and “P” tracking mode, which apparently allows the flash not to react to “red-eye preflashes”. Well, studio / manual flashes are naturally also “ignited”.
  2. By sync cable, by hot shoe. They say that cables from the Canon system are suitable, but the arrangement of the contacts on the shoe is somewhat different from the Canon ones. Nikon's TTL cable doesn't fit exactly. Perhaps the so-called. A “universal TTL cable” would be the best solution in this situation.
  3. Radio synchronizers via hot shoe. Any - for manual modes, or possibly E-TTL for Canon system (info not verified).

Fuji EF-X20 and studio chinese flash:

Fuji EF-x20 and Chinese studio flash

A little trick that helps you not to worry about the invertedness of the flash:EF-X20 flash with reflector

With a forehead flash:

direct flash shot

And with a reflector from a piece of foil:

Shot with flash and reflector "to the ceiling"

As a means of holding foil paper, in increasing efficiency: fingers, elastic band for money, magnetic strip (bought in an advanced store for printers or from manufacturers of magnets)

For integrated flash X-T10, in the menu, has only 4 operating modes:

  • "Forced" is a simple TTL mode. Before operating, the flash must be raised with the lever on the left of the top panel.
  • Slow sync.
  • 2-curtain sync - read "rear curtain"
  • Commander Command mode. Alas, fujah has nothing like Nikon's CLS, in this mode the flash works with a minimum power sufficient only for ignition external flash.
  • Disabled flash. Why this item is needed, as well as the first one - I am lost in conjecture (after all, the flash fires only if it is raised), most likely the menu is as unified as possible with other camera models, and these items are intended for cameras with non-liftable flashes - to disable / enable them in this way. However, when this menu item is selected, the raised flash will not fire.

Additional built-in flash settings:

  • Flash exposure compensation +2 0 -2, in increments of 1/3.
  • Enabling disabling the “remove red eyes” mode. Moreover, it was implemented not by pre-flashes, as usual, but at the software level - the automation detects the face and “blackens the pupils”.
  • There is no manual mode.

Since the viewfinder (and the screen) shows the picture in accordance with the selected exposure pair and exposure compensation, allowing you to select shooting parameters in real time, for working with flashes and in the studio, the “screen” menu has a “view exposure in manual mode - on / off ”. When you turn it off EVI and the screen starts working as usual JVI... This function can be assigned to function keys “Fn”, but it cannot be assigned to Custom Menu “Q”.

Wi-fi

Wireless communication in the X-T10 has four functions:

  1. Work with tablets and smartphones. Android and Ios.
  2. Autosave to the computer.
  3. Impressing geotags for photos from a GPS smartphone.
  4. Intax wireless wearable printer.
Work with tablets and smartphones.

Everything is very simple and fast. The application database (googleplay and applestory) has an application. It is downloaded, installed, configured, and now, each time you turn on Wi-Fi in your smartphone and Fujik, and confirm the connection in the camera, you get 4 functions:

  • Copying / receiving (not moving!) Selected photos to a smartphone (the camera has a function “transfer a compressed file”) In this mode, you need to select which photos to transfer and which not to transfer on the camera screen.
  • View camera memory. The same as the previous point, only in this case all copying and selection control takes place from the smartphone screen. Basically, it is a choice “what to put back in your pocket - a camera or a smartphone?”.
  • Shooting control - aiming, shutter release, changing shooting parameters - iso, excerpt, flash mode, timer, photo or video, correction exposure and so on.
  • Geotagging - transferring the coordinates of the current location to the camera when shooting.

Fujifilm X-T10 Wi-Fi connection screen
The connection is almost instantaneous. When working with a camera, working with the Internet via Wi-Fi on the smartphone is automatically blocked.
Among the shortcomings - every time after executing a menu item, when returning to the selection of items, you have to reconnect.
This function can be assigned to one of the function buttons “Fn”

PC autosave

A special autosave program is downloaded from the Fuji website (versions for Win and Ios), and, when installed, is assigned to startup, in standby mode. At the same time, you need to configure a network connection on the camera (name / password or several other methods) - through a home wifi router or access point. The network settings are then saved in the camera's memory. Up to six wifi- networks can be stored.
For autosave, you need to go to the photo view mode, and select the item “autosave on pc” there. It takes about 20-30 seconds to connect and authorize in the autosave program, and another half a minute to check and copy 10-20 jpg files.
Unfortunately, you cannot assign autosave either to function keys or to the custom menu.

Imprinting geotags for photos from a GPS smartphone

Everything is simple here - you turn on the GPS on your smartphone, run the same connection program, and it transmits the tags for recording to EXIF any freshly shot frame. At the same time it displays on the screen an icon “landmarks received”. For some reason, it is indicated that “the time of continuous operation is 1 hour”.

Instax SHARE SP-1 Wireless Wearable Printer

Intax printer

Photo - honestly stolen from the official website of the manufacturer.

This is a very funny idea from Fujifilm, based on their modern Instax Polaroid cameras. It is a printed block from a similar camera with a projector screen inside, a wi-fi module and powered by a pair of batteries.
Dimensions: 101,6 mm x 42 mm x 122,5 mm, weight: 253 g (without battery and film), hung with a clip on a belt.
The price is about 8-9 thousand rubles for January 2015.
Pictures are taken in size 46 * 62 mm, plus a white frame like a polaroid.
It feeds on cassettes from Fujifilm "a la Polaroid", for 10 pictures (type "mini"), the price of 4-5 hundred rubles each.
Whoever has read this far is already well done!
Basically, this amusement is needed for all sorts of parties, and for paid photo shoots, when in half a minute, during the shooting, you can make several “photos for a purse” - a pleasant surprise for the customer. Well, or you can make a concept exhibition.

Other

Film Profiles and Job Emulation

The camera has half a dozen preset color profiles, mostly imitating certain types of film, including the legendary kodak chrome and classic sepia. Moreover, it shows them immediately in the viewfinder when shooting. And also - 7 options for user settings (in which film profiles are just one of the adjustable parameters). Any of these can be switched through the quick menu or by assigned function keys, by the combination “pressed the button-turned the wheel / clicked the joystick”. The fun options that can be assigned to the left “tower” are black and white with only one color tolerance - red, yellow, blue, green and orange.

color choice - blue

color choice - red

Memory cards

One of the differences between x-t10 and x-t1 is frame buffer... In X-T10, it is limited to about 8-10 frames, and after that the camera thinks about recording to a USB flash drive. In many forums it is recommended (and I agree) to spend on a high-speed card, with a speed of at least 80-95 Mbps. The recording lag drops significantly - at a slow serial speed, the card overflow does not occur at all, at a fast speed it starts to slow down after the tenth or twelfth frame.
No, some inexpensive card, like the Transcend Class 10, is not fast and slows down a lot. The recording speed must be indicated on the card (or in the description). Some kind of SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 16 GB (or better 32) is good enough.

The most “continuous-rapid-fire” option is the “jeep-normal” option with the minimum file size and all the enhancements disabled - about 20 frames (2,5 seconds) of continuous shooting without slowing down the speed.

True, all of the above concerns the jpg format, in raw - a camera with a fast card slows down the shooting speed somewhere after the tenth frame in a slow burst and after the sixth or seventh in a fast burst (but does not stop shooting!).

XNUMXrd party lenses

Through the appropriate adapters are put almost any. The most common adapters on the M42, on the M39, Nikon and Canon. Alas, for autofocus glasses, the iris control (and even more so the focusing drive or zoom) will not work. Of particular interest is the possibility of using interesting rangefinder glasses.

Fujifilm X-T10 and Jupiter-37MS (via Fuji-M42 adapter)

Fujifilm X-T10 and Jupiter-37MS

Lens caps

Uncomfortable, and slip out of your fingers. Classic "a la nikon" is much more practical. But it's easier to put a good protective filter and forget about the covers.

Wishes to the developers of Fujifilm:

  1. menu item "view exposure in manual mode - on / off ”. - very much needed in the “custom Q menu”.
  2. the function “connect to tablet” and “autosave” need to be added to “custom Q screen”
  3. I really need a "sleep" button under duress, or at least setting in the sleep timing menu not only for 2 and 5 minutes - they are too long.
  4. Also, I would very much like the mode “in the viewfinder - the image, on the screen - only the settings, and the quick user menu”. - as it is already implemented with the mode of viewing pictures. And then, setting the "viewfinder only" mode, it is impossible to adjust the shooting parameters on the screen, and to shoot - only through the viewfinder, as on DSLRs.
  5. On the button / command "turn on wi-fi" you need to make a choice - they will connect to a tablet or computer / other networks (and not scatter it into two commands in two different menus), otherwise you have to climb each menu to turn on autosave in order to throw off a pair -three photo. Well, it connects for a long time, unfortunately. Maybe what kind of usb-wifi device to release so that it can be plugged into the computer - and it immediately connects the camera, with the same program as in smartphones?

Price and consistency

Alas and ah, the option “I'll go to a mirrorless camera, everything is cheaper and better there” is a myth.
If you completely switch to a mirrorless system, with native lenses, automation and convenience, you will have to spend money.

I'll make a reservation right away - yes, there are inexpensive solutions for a narrow range of tasks.

For example, for “purely manual work with high-quality color” there is a very suitable and relatively inexpensive fuji X-m1 on the secondary market. For 12-17 thousand, subject to the purchase of a used one, you get a tiny pocket crop-1,5, with a proprietary matrix, a set of adapters for the main systems (M42, M39, watering can, Nikon), a manual focusing system, Wi-Fi and a folding screen ... If you add your own “whale” 16-50 / 3,5-5,6 for 10 rubles - you have a device for creative, studio shooting and family holidays.

For street photography, the pocket and inexpensive Sony nex 5, 6, 7 versions, or A5100 are quite suitable. With pancake or whale. Or Olympus pen-series (starting with five).

Actually, a mirrorless inexpensive (at the price of a younger SLR) system for "Film the family and put the camera back in your pocket" these are non-top small models of Olympus / Sony / Fuji / Panasonic - without a viewfinder, with a rotating screen and a whale / pancake included (in the case of Olympus, a whale-pancake).

But! If you build a universal system with the optimal set of functions, good focus and automatic lenses, forget about the savings regarding DSLRs.

I'll give you a concrete example.
To switch to Fuji, I had to sell:

S5pro with all devices

Total - 71-73 thousand rubles.

For this amount bought:

  1. Fujifilm X-T10 - 43000 rubles (connected + 3000 bonuses from Fuji for the promotion +2000 points of the connected + 1270 rubles for saving for using the card when buying online).
  2. Fujinon 18 / 2 - a pancake-lens with an ERF of 27 mm (classic reportage film times) - 18000 rubles in M-video. And this is the old price, only in M-video there are few lenses left for such a price, the new price is 32000 rubles.
  3. Battery WP-126, native to Fuj, with a 2-year warranty, price of 1630 in the store, minus ~ 300 points with the "points" system from Sberbank, and minus 300 rubles for a review on a purchase in a connected camera. total - 1000 rubles in fact.
  4. Flash (I would like a couple) EF-X20 (9000 at the price tag in a connected) +2 sets of eneloop AAA batteries (1000 rubles / set) + SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC card 16 GB (1600 rubles). This whole set costs 12600 rubles, but - minus gift points from Fuji for the winter promotion, minus points from “Svyaznoy” from buying a camera, minus points for paying with a card - we get something about 8000 rubles.
  5. From ebeya adapters to M42, M39, Nikon ~ 1400 rubles.
  6. Kaleinar 5N - 1000 rubles in the commission.

Total ~ approximately the same 71-72 thousand rubles.

Not to say cheap, right? And this despite the fact that recently Fuji did raise prices for carcasses and optics.
However, it can be noted that these are new prices for new, and quality enough for their prices, products.

Why exactly x-t10, and not xt-1, x-e2, or new Olympus or sony?

With dormouse everything is simple - I don't like them. No view, no ergonomics, no picture.
With the Olympus - it's more complicated, the new OMD E10 Mark 2 and OMD E5 Mark 2 are the most convenient little cameras that I have ever held in my hands. Really - they directly flow into the hand and everything is convenient everywhere and does not shake anywhere. And there is a huge selection of lenses. And the viewfinder is good (although I liked the fujik much more). And branded Olympic beautiful colors. Stabilizer in the matrix. Fastest autofocus. Everything, literally everything is good!
Except for one “but”. Because of the crop-2, the Olympuses have the most boring picture, flat as a children's folding book-with-lock. There are absolutely no volumes. Even with good chiaroscuro. Even on top fixes. Alas. I didn't like it at all.
fuji X-E2 - there is no rotary screen and ergonomics are a little disliked.

Fuji X-M1 is one of the most successful fuji mirrorless cameras, relatively inexpensive, but alas, there is no viewfinder and hybrid autofocus, although as a second, pocket camera is quite good. An acquaintance of mine in St. Petersburg specially took her to work with manual lenses in the studio.

fuji X-T1 with the release of X-Pro 2 has lost its top status, losing to the new model in all respects, except for the price (not much) and the presence of a rotary screen. At the same time, the X-T10 outperforms the former flagship in smaller dimensions and weight, having the same matrix and focusing system, as well as a much lower price (about 20 thousand rubles), yielding only to the lack of weather protection, a little in the buffer and the size of the viewfinder, and having lost a few beautiful, but not critically necessary "twists" on the body.

Why mirrorless?

That's why:why fujik

By the way. A very big plus of such a system is that people, even unfamiliar ones, are not at all afraid of you, do not shy away like “from a big black camera”. This allows you to quite calmly shoot everyday scenes and other reportage interesting things.

Well, and one more thing. They really want to shoot.

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Comments: 298, on the topic: Overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or mirrorless in the hands of an amateur. Review from the reader Radozhiva.

  • Oleg

    As for the price: do you know how much was the price of water at the beginning of sales?

    • Lynx

      2000$

      • Oleg

        With this angle, it’s already inexpensive.

        • Lynx

          Do you know how much 486 processors cost when ??
          so what?

  • Trekhsotkovich

    Lynx, question for you, can you determine what the flash cover is made of? metal or plastic painted with aluminum paint? Very interesting.

    • Lynx

      plastic.

      • Lynx

        this does not need to be done in metal for a number of technological and practical reasons.

  • Trekhsotkovich

    X-Pro1 is made from metal from top to bottom. And if black paint is scratched, silver metal shines from under it, it looks brutal, like battle scars on a carcass :) But the new X-E2s will be even more plastic than X-E2. He will have a plastic shutter speed dial, and an expo-correction dial, and the bottom bottom will now be made up of 2 plastic parts. Fujifilm motivated this by the fact that users need lighter cameras, and they have reduced weight due to plastic parts :) So it’s not far to slide plastic Holga cameras.

    • Lynx

      they quite reasonably share in the cheapened and top-end series.

  • KalekseyG

    It's funny, but the examples of the photos are very similar to the work of Sergey Elizarov :-)

    • Lynx

      Yes? It will be necessary to familiarize yourself.
      Although strange - most of the frames in the review are simply snapped on the go.

  • varezhkin

    the photos did not please ... I remembered the picture from the soap dishes ..

    • Lynx

      Yes, the kit was very nice, albeit with its own peculiarities.
      But he fulfilled his role, it was time to change.

  • varezhkin

    “To switch to Fuji, I had to sell:

    fuji S5 Pro (mileage 83 thousand, butler 3 batteries);
    35-105 / 3,5-4,5 - 16000 rubles;
    nikon 35 / 1,8g - 6500 rubles;
    nikon 100 / 2,8E - 3500rub (still sorry about the sale);
    3 pieces SB-700 for 10-11 thousand rubles (one is still for sale);
    70-300 / 4,5-5,6 VR - 15000 rubles. "
    cruelly ... such a set was ... but they know how to get into their pockets in modern fujifilm.

    • Novel

      And don't say - sell a box, 2 zooms, 2 fixes, 3 flashes (!) And T10 at the exit, a fixed-shirik and nothing.

    • Lynx

      This kit is very good but it performed its function.
      The choice during the upgrade was quite wide, from several systems and models and took more than one day.
      So the system is selected in accordance with the needs and taking into account other available equipment.

  • Ivan Wolverine

    bikers have such a joke - I bought a Honda ... I drove for a year - nothing breaks ... the second went - nothing breaks, it's boring and not interesting ... the third traveled - I got tired and sold this Honda ... I bought Izh-Jupiter and now I don't miss it at all ... :-) )))
    ****
    and so here ... I will urgently sell the H-610 with bells and whistles and buy Fujik ... :-)))

    • zengarden

      Yes, many complain, they say, the service at the fujas is weak, there are few centers ... and the fact that they very rarely break, as if it doesn’t matter. I mean, not from flying into a concrete wall, but by themselves.

  • Michael

    Yes, the price is not just at the level of a DSLR, but simply more expensive. Let's wait ...

    • Lynx

      Umm .. Actually, the d7100 carcass is even more expensive. Let's wait for something that can be saved on mirrorless? )))

      • BB

        In Ukraine, fuji X-T10 costs about $ 7100- $ 60 more expensive than Nikon D80 (per body)

        In principle, I like mirrorless cameras - as an alternative between a DSLR and a compact (the former are large and heavy, the latter have a deplorable quality, compared to the CZK), but while mirrorless cameras are not there at the same price, then the demand for them is appropriate.

        • Michael

          In Moscow, the price of X-T10 and D7200 is about the same + -. 70D is slightly cheaper (5%).

      • Michael

        Let's wait until a mirrorless camera with the same functionality and glasses will cost about the same money. 7100 is more functional and more convenient - Fuj seemed to me more like 5xxx than 7 series. I didn't want to offend anyone. Some are ready to pay for compactness - some are not

        • Vladimir

          IMHO it won't happen quickly. The fashion for the BZK is only gaining momentum, so the rams will be sheared more and more. A more sophisticated DSLR mechanically costs half the price of its counterpart in the BZK. All together took out wallets ...

          • Oleg

            Yes, the system in Fujik is a little expensive for crop lenses, but they are like on a full frame from other manufacturers

            • Vladimir

              Buy the same? And there is no particular alternative. :)))

              • Michael

                That's why we wait)))

            • Lynx

              And what is so great in the full frame? From him, the photos get cooler, like the ones from the silver top of his camera?

              • fotika

                sometimes it seems that you, as a typical "girl", pull out the text from a holistic phrase, and use it to your advantage. this kind of wit, only proves your inferiority)) no more. as if it is not an adult who writes, but a 12-year-old boy, whom his mother bought not such a big camera as from a camera)))

              • Oleg

                There are certainly advantages to a full frame, although you have to pay for them (weight, size). I had more in mind that the crop lens, which covers an area 2 times smaller than full-frame, has the same price. In any case, thanks for the review with a successful purchase.

              • brighty

                -You're a fool!
                -No you are a fool!
                -Yes you don’t look like a fool!
                - I don’t look like that !?

              • Jury

                Well, at least sensitivity

            • Lynx

              Well, the prices for cropped glass and the CZK are not too small, the same nikon 17-55 / 2,8

  • anonym

    Yeah, subjective nowhere, IMHO. Chamber for small tenacious legs, IMHO. :)))

    • Lynx

      ;))

  • KalekseyG

    exactly. he is also a fan of clicking something on the go - a fence, a seller, a building, a tree

  • Andrei

    Hello everyone. After switching from Nikon D7000 and SB-700, the flashes are very frustrating, but recently showed Fujifilm EF-X500, will be released approximately in May. Look forward to.

  • Trekhsotkovich

    The worst thing in ALL Fujiks is that all the carcasses and all the built-in and external flashes DO NOT work at shutter speeds shorter than 1/180 1/250, which is very inconvenient. Speaking in the language of Nikon-istans, Fuji does not have an HSS mode. For example, it’s a sunny day outside, and you underexpose the background by -1 step, and you want to illuminate the person in the foreground with a puff with a softbox, and in 99% of cases you find that background exposure even with an aperture of F11 and ISO-100 will be 1 / 500 1/1000 and so on. Epic fail :(

    • Lynx

      In general, in all Fujiks with non-continuous lenses, the synchronization pull goes somewhere up to 1/4000 and with any puffs.

  • Andrei

    the expected model will fill this gap: “The novelty is compact in size to match the small size of the X-series cameras, light weight, high-speed sync (up to 1/8000 s). The flash can operate in automatic TTL-mode, manual mode, as well as multiple-firing mode ("strobe"). The zoom range is 24–105 mm, and the guide number at a focal length of 105 mm (in 35 mm equiv.) Is 50 (ISO 100). The flash has a swivel head that rotates up and down and left and right. ”
    ps the truth is likely all the charms will be available only on older carcasses
    wait and see, not long left

    • Trekhsotkovich

      In principle, people are switching to Fujifilm for the sake of compactness, but if we put on any Fuji a new Fujifilm EF-X500 flash, then we return to the size and weight of the SLRs in half a ton. Here's the flash of the EF-X20 like that of Lynx sooo fits in Fuji's concept of size and weight design, my Meike mk-320 by design sucks but my head rotates up and down left and right and the size is still not brick half a kilo like Fujifilm EF-X500 and EF-42. With such heavy and bulky flashes, any Fujik turns into a DSLR in size and weight, only unlike a DSLR it literally falls out of hands, because the DSLR has a massive grip and the weight of the camera lens is balanced. Say what you like, but my opinion is that any serious kind of DSLR is still preferable for serious work like weddings, photo shoots, strobism, but for the home, for the subject, for leisurely creative shooting of relatives and friends of Fujifilm it is very useful. I think the best flash is the EF-X20 like that of a Lynx, but if you still have a sync cable to it through a hot shoe, it will be generally cool. In one hand you hold Fuji to the other with an EF-X20 flash with a small softbox, click, click and creative portraits of relatives fly to their smartphones :) Everyone is happy, and all the equipment fits in your pockets :)

    • Lynx

      It’s more like a hastily riveted press release from the rest of the instructions than a description of a real flash for the UPC, especially fuji

  • Hello to the editors

    I remember I was unpleasantly surprised by the extremely rude statements of the "lynx" about literacy and "this man also calls himself the editor of the site." I don’t remember, but it was a “third-party” review, in my opinion, of Fuji's camera.
    Duc, what am I doing? It would not hurt to edit the review, otherwise the problem is literacy :)

    • Lynx

      Who's stopping you? Post changes

      • Hello to the editors

        There is no point, and the post is not entirely about mistakes. But (so as not to be unfounded):
        “All funny nonsense is exclusively a lynx imkhoy, and is based on ...” - nonsense is and based (comma between homogeneous predicates?
        “The exceptions seem to me to be ...” what are they?
        “Just don't confuse it with“ reporter's ... ”- CO reporter's?
        “... sharpness (if you have money for medium format and optics for it, as well as understanding why you need it, then this article is absolutely not for you)” - we will write off spaces for layout, but before “why” a comma is asked, and what is it "THIS IS"? Does it mean "THEY"? Those. medium format and optics?
        "... to impress the customers ..."
        “… Often“ does not inspire confidence in “serious people”). - re-read yourself carefully, remove unnecessary signs.
        “Most of the performance characteristics (matrices, dimensions, weight, etc.) can be viewed on the Internet, read the praises of the“ original fuji matrix with a non-Bayer filter ”(with which lightroom still works buggy ...” - are there several matrices? Or then “matrices, sizes , weight and other things "? And between the sizes with the weight the comma asks. And how to understand the" matrix, with which "?
        “... contrasting across the entire field of the frame, plus phase, along the central part of the frame, the coverage area of ​​phase sensors is approximately comparable to those ...” - either cowards or a cross: why a comma after the “phase”?
        “… In tight light conditions…”
        “A very convenient option is to move not only one focus point around the frame, but…” - Fuji got moving autofocus sensors?
        "Usually, with mirrorless cameras, the joystick is configured like a" soap dish "..." - a comma, which after "usually" put before "how"

        This is fluent, brief and just the very beginning, plus a discount on "author rights". Believe me, I would not have sharpened it if it had not been for that criticism (by the way, the criticism was on the case, but the presentation was too great :)

        I am grateful for some things: “bulky flash” is great!

        • Lynx

          “The exceptions seem to me to be ...” what are they? - there are colons.
          Yes, Fuji has two types of matrices.
          Yes, Fuji has running focus points and focus areas, and a joystick and tracking.
          Thank you for the rest of the corrections, when you read it yourself - the eye gets blurry, especially after several days of corrections. I'll hand over the arcade for editing.

          • Hello to the editors

            So it would be better “The exceptions are, they are ...”, “make up” - not particularly in the context.
            point-by-point - not moving the point, but “choosing a point and focusing area”, don't you agree?
            But this is nitpicking. I hope it’s clear why this is all. And I really hope that no offense.

            • Lynx

              I don't know, according to my experience “factors make up: enumeration”.
              a question of perception, IMHO.
              Not a choice, a choice is rather “between a point and a zone”, as well as a point / zone is already selected, it is moving across the frame area.
              no, thanks for the editorial board, because unfortunately there was no one to read this article - Arkady was too busy, and there was no one else to ask for, so I had to release it with a “blurry eye” after 3-4 times of my own proofreading.

  • Anatoly

    By autofocus, you certainly jerked. Any DSLR, even the lower range, focuses faster and clings better in low light. I compared XE-2 and d7000 is heaven and earth. The impression was that the autofocus in fuji was very close to any soap dish.
    However, there is a positive point, with the native glasses during manual focusing, interactive control of the flu and focusing distance is implemented. Using the icons, the interface shows not only the distance, but also the change in the width of the RIP depending on the focal and aperture. This is a very useful thing for night shooting when autofocus is powerless.

    • Dim

      This is if only for filming the pitch darkness of distant objects to which the auto focus backlight does not achieve. .. It turns out a photo for perversions.
      So the arrows on the D700 telling me where to twist when manually focusing is enough. I don’t know what brain-knowing know-how is there without which life is not sweet.
      Once Arkady conducted a survey who uses the school on lenses, as I understand it - almost no one. On the old Schneider, I have such a fig with flu demonstrations that I can say - it looks beautiful ☺

      • Lynx

        He is a little about other things, Fuji can show the size of the depth of field depending on the distance and diaphragm.
        Picking is really a very convenient way to work with old manual optics at short distances

        • Dim

          So some lenses have the same feature. On the new Zeiss and here on my old Schneider - you set the aperture and distance, and he accordingly draws the grip with a stripe - beautiful and stylish, but not necessary - it is already visible in the ove

          • Lynx

            this is on any technique with a fairly good viewfinder and sharp DOF lenses in the viewfinder. )
            It's a pity that the stripe has no numerical value - yes.

  • anonym

    Spelling and punctuation of the author saved. (previous comment). Kisa, you have a job. :))

    • Lynx

      Envy is a bad feeling! ))

  • Trekhsotkovich

    To be honest, I am also surprised why Lynx compares the autofocus speed of the X-T10 with the D7000, because the speed there really is heaven and earth, the D7000 focuses 2 times faster AT LEAST! I think that in general, the focusing speed of ANY FUJIK up to X-Pro2 = autofocus speed Nikon D3100 and no more. And there is no need to exaggerate and praise FUDJ. Fuj is good at anything but autofocus speed. Those who now have a DSLR starting with Nikon D5100 and above, do not even dream that any Fuj will replace it, do not believe in fairy tales, if you buy a Fuj, you will spit and swear from autofocus "comparable to the D7000"

    • zengarden

      It makes no sense to compare the focusing speed of cameras without taking into account optics.
      Yes, perhaps the X-T10 focuses twice as slow as the Nikon D7000 - say, 0,2 s vs 0,1 s.
      Even three times. But by eye, I do not see the difference. Both are pretty fast, whack and that's it.
      F: Whale lens 16-50 / 3.5-5.6
      N: Tamron 16-50 / 2.8, Nikkor 50 / 1.8D, others are even slower.
      Even in a dark room; moreover, here Fujik is subjectively even more confident.

      • zengarden

        UPD Now once again compared in the same conditions with poor lighting in contrasting objects. The D7000 has Tamron 16-50 / 2.8 (yes, not the fastest). Focusing on the short end of the X-T10 is 2-3 times faster, on the long end the difference is even greater.
        In good lighting, I don’t feel the difference at all; albeit not instantly, but at the limit of perception.
        I admit that this lens on fuja is also far from the fastest, but there is nothing to compare with.

        • Lynx

          Thanks for the hands-on experience!

  • Trekhsotkovich

    I just compared the D800 with nikkor 20mm f2.8D and nikkor 85mm f1.8G lenses versus two fujiks X-Pro1 and X-E2 with firmware on February 4, 2016 with fujinon lenses 14mm f2.8, 27mm f2.8 and 35mm f1.4 (all glasses are also stitched with the latest firmware). Both Fujas, with any of these glasses, lose to Nikon D800 with at least 20 and 85. And it was me who was shooting a stationary object, and if you shoot even a slowly walking person, then there will be BIDA-BIDA at all at Fuji! This is my practical experience, but subjectively I remember how the D3100 D5100 D300s D7100 D3s which I used were focused, and personally, from my memory, Fujiki are comparable to the D3100 in AF speed. And let the Lynx throw stones at me right now. The first 2 months of using Fujik I was delighted with him, and I thought that she was the BEST camera in the world, but no, after a year the delight passed, the paint from Fujika climbed over, and I soberly appreciated the difference between Fujik and Nikon, the latter still remains for me as a standard camera capable of confidently working in ANY conditions. And fujik is just a pop camera for a house with a hell of a price that will only increase, because Fujik blows his cheeks more and more, trying to become like Leica, every day Fuji has some kind of new “patented technology” then they have Classic Chrome, then their mother Across, then the “UNIQUE” function of adding film grain to the X-Pro2… The “uniqueness” grows, the cheeks swell, the people pay, the people hawala. Soon Autofocus will be removed from the lenses in order to achieve even greater resemblance to Leica, and then Fuj will "deservedly" cost 100500 million for a body like Leica M9 :) And if you go further, soon Fuj will have "UNIQUE" limited series of cameras in the style of Fujifilm X -Pro2 JaguarXK type as well as X-Pro2 Lenny Kravitz edition and further incrementally. Of course, at a price of over 10ooo evergreens per carcass in a wooden case :) Gee-gee-gee.

    • Lynx

      Thanks for the hands-on experience!

    • varezhkin

      iron ... (c) E. Shchukin

    • zengarden

      Why D800? I had to immediately compare with D4 :)
      What about Across and the diffuse image structure - did you see this picture yourself?
      Apparently, you are just very disappointed with the money spent on fuji ...

      • Trekhsotkovich

        I compared it with the D800 because, unfortunately, of Nikons, I only have the D800 at home. It's a pity about the money spent, maybe I'll surprise you, but I bought X-E2, X-Pro1, XF14mm, f2.8 XF35mm f1.4, XF27mm f2.8, it's just stupid to play around like a soap dish for home, for the soul, so to speak, for design and camera Jpeg, I initially KNEW that these cameras are not capable of more than photographing landscapes and friends. And I almost feel sorry for the money spent, I really love these cameras, but I get bombs when they are compared to DSLRs! This is heaven and earth. Fujifilm is just a beautiful charged soap box for home shooting no more. Just the field of application for Fuji and Nikon is DIFFERENT, and some personalities with foam at the mouth prove that Fuji is a D5-type harvester on which you can shoot a wedding and a photo session of skateboarders ... blah blah blah ... about Across yes, please, I will not persuade you, this is your opinion and for you it is the only true one, as they say in taste and color, but something tells me that Across can be obtained on any fujik by correctly setting the BW in the Q-menu using your hands and, oddly enough, the brain :)

  • varganshik

    Still, even the full frame of Sony a7m2 did not seduce you? This carcass in comparison of these two systems in the complex is better obtained or is everything subjective? You thought / doubted for a long time or the decision was clear / clear / conscious. Judging by the posts, such a sharp transition, unexpected.
    What guided you? Regards, Eugene

    • Lynx

      I do not like Sonya at all, this is mentioned in the article, and the advantages of a full frame for my tasks are not particularly obvious. Actually, they are not at all obvious.
      ..........
      everything is always subjective.
      Long. DOOL and painful, more the conversation was not so much in "take something better", but in a kind of paradigm shift. And in general, initially there was a desire to take Olympuses - OMD 10 Mark2 or OMD 5 Mark2.
      only due to some circumstances did the choice return to the Fujiks.
      In fact, I had a chance to meet mirrorless and optics of fuji a couple of years ago, and although the x-m1 is a very suitable machine, it unfortunately did not seduce me as the main system.
      But there was hope that the system would grow into something more or less stable and possessing great functions.
      .......
      Regarding “for wedding reports - I have no idea, to be honest, the requirements for a wedding is somehow beyond my awareness and interest.
      But for fujiki I can say that in large cities there is a system “take a camera for a test”, and you can try x-t1, or, as it appears, x-pro2. Best of all with some kind of high-aperture fix.
      Plus fujiks for this - this is for most reportage and “oh, how beautiful” shots, you can flexibly configure 7 pieces of “custom settings” from “portrait” to “retro bw” and have a ready-made cam-jeep at the output that does not really require processing, which can be handed over / sent to the editorial office via a smartphone - right in the process.

      • varganshik

        Thanks for the detailed answer! I'm expecting a canon-like remote flash control system for Fuji. And also you need to shoot with a flash in HSS mode, like it is supported with a native one. I watched the review of x-pro2, the matrix there is magical, but still the grip there is not convenient for work, the xt1 will be better, I am waiting for xt2, I will definitely stick a booster there, and this is only possible with the xt series. By the way, you didn't write anything about the weak point - about the batteries!

        Now look. Heard about the AF adapter for MI, and other manual high-tech glasses from Techart? Here in Fuji it will be just a bomb! For the sake of such pampering, both color and picture and volume is confused with Fujik.

        • Lynx

          it is unlikely to be, Fuji is not positioned as a camera for this, and from my own experience one and a half years of shooting - the CLS-pre-flash synchronization system is certainly convenient, but in the vast majority of variants it is too useless, it is better to set the parameters with the knobs. Is that for “it's banal to shoot a portrait without bothering with light”. To pile up like that - I see no point.
          read that part of the review where it says about the mirrorless grip.
          ht1 is still more artistic, and the proshka is reportage.
          about batteries - read carefully. After soaking, this is, as it were, not quite a weak point.
          No, I've never heard of it, and IMHO - this is nonsense, automatic focusing for manual lenses. It will be either cumbersome and inconvenient, or sucks, or it is generally a duck.

  • varganshik

    I have a nex-6. I basically have enough of him for the studio, but for work more seriously: reporting, weddings, what would you advise?

    • Lynx

      disadvantages of mirrorless cameras - you are unlikely to impress customers with such “non-impressive” cameras, although the ht1 in the maximum configuration with a butblock and 40-150 is quite so impressive. ))

      • Trekhsotkovich

        Lynx + + + + + + + It is unlikely that you will impress customers with such "non-impressive" cameras :)
        People in the former CIS love everything BIG, the larger the camera, the higher the professionalism.

        • anonym

          The longer the lens, the steeper the photographer!

  • Andrei

    I had D7000 + Sigma 17-50 2.8 OS + nikkor 35 1.8 I changed it a couple of months ago to X-T10 + 18-55 2.0-4.0, there is still not much experience with it, but on the whole I have an opinion. In terms of focusing speed, of course Fuji is slightly inferior, but not critical. For home use, everything is OK. I shot karate competitions from a child, also without problems. But autofocus practically does not blur, white balance and exposure on the machine are much more accurate. In terms of noise, the picture is more pleasant, in fuja, the advantage is about 1 stop. And of course the color is beautiful. On nikon it was necessary to twist in a lightroom more.
    For flashes for the home, ideally something in size and design of the EF-X20, but so that you can puff into the ceiling. The second system flash EF-20, well, very "Chinese", not the same level of performance.

  • Andrei

    Thanks for the review, it reminds me very much of my own thoughts about this camera and system.

    >>> They say that in cramped light conditions, the camera completely switches to contrast focusing, disabling the phase sensors. True or not, I don't know.
    I think the truth, since the lens begins to crawl back and forth, as is usually the case with contrast autofocus.

    >>> Complete neck strap
    I immediately change all mirrorless cameras to the old one, from some kind of zenith - leather, thin and very soft. It's infinitely more convenient than any modern ones I've tried.

    >>> Third party lenses
    I would also note the over-widths from Samyang and the company. I myself use Samyang 12mm 2,0, quite like it. Well, do not forget that Zeiss made three lenses for fujas.

    >>> fuji X-m1
    I sold this for 9tr, plus a whale 16-50 for 6tr. As for the whale, by the way - I didn't like the very strong distortion correction on it. That is, in the zhpg all the rules, but it is worth taking it off, for example, the barrel is much stronger than even on 12mm samyang.

    >>> Why exactly x-t10, and not xt-1, x-e2
    And I liked E2 more, given the price of used at the time.

    • Lynx

      Yes, Samyangi is interesting, but it has not been used before, although I want a portrait TV from them when they release it.

      • Andrei

        I think it’s better not to wait for the portrait portrayal from Samyang, but to buy such an old Nikon 180mm 2,8. I think it will be better and cheaper. First of all, I was interested in shirik, since to find something similar (12mm) on the crop, among the ancient lenses, is very problematic (but I do not want speed boosters).

        • Lynx

          180 mm on the crop is very long for a portrait. and too big for a mirrorless
          Calenar in this case is enough, IMHO.

  • Pastor

    Here, another threw the legendary ghoul! :) And here I also decided to get rid, put up for sale. It turned out that photos where such overexpositions come out that it can only be pulled out with a fujami, I have one in 10 thousand, and the colors, in general, can be wound up very similar from other cameras. Moreover, colors that I myself, and my friends, cannot distinguish from fujah. As a result, I realized that the camera is cool and it urgently needs to be given to another person, whose c5 will work. And the review is good, it’s a pity there are no such ones for each mirrorless, so as to already choose what to take for yourself.

    • Lynx

      if possible, I would leave the second camera. But two systems would be too much for me now.
      although I was looking for the closest possible color work.
      .......
      what else about mirrorless cameras? olympuses omd 10/5 mark2 are suitable, everything that is said about fujik applies to them, only they still have mega-comfortable wheels and a touch screen. Only one thing - I did not like the drawing from them at all. If you're okay - Duc forward!
      And sleepyhead is a religion, it's already difficult here. ))

      • Pastor

        I’m just thinking about oliki because of the megastab, on the whole decent colors and more or less good working iso. A drawing on such a matrix is ​​difficult to obtain, it is understandable. But I look at the BZK because of working with the manual and to always carry with me. Throw in a bag of documents and carry everywhere with you, in my opinion super-useful property bzk. Even the d3300 cannot be thrown into a bag. Well, I would also like protection from the weather, though the BZK with such protection are like used ff :(
        I'm also sorry to sell fuja, I also sell 70-300vr and canon 70-200 4l. And all because of 70-200 2.8 fox2 - so I liked the pipe, and the price is horse. Now we have to part with some of the equipment in order to maintain the balance of expenses on photographic equipment :)

        • Lynx

          People sometimes complain about megastab. So you need to smoke this topic separately.
          But you can find bush omd 5, 20 thousand for a full weather protection, the people are now massively draining them to take omd5mark2.
          And for a bag + a manual - it's easier to take either a crop of a sonek or hm1 fuja. Or x-a2, though they are with a conventional matrix.

          • Pastor

            Thanks for the tip! I'll see omd5 :)

            • Lynx

              but he loses a lot to the new omd5mark2, and more massive than any pen7. and more expensive.
              and crop2.
              But weatherproof, yes. )))

              • Pastor

                Looked, in general, quite good. ISO workers are on the C grade, but for a camera on any occasion it will come down. Stab seems to completely compensate for the lack of iso for statics. Weather protection seems to be quite at the level. used for twenty is not difficult to find. And Mark is two hefty expensive, again you have to sell something. Today I gave 70-200 4 liters at a time and 70-300 rubles did not leave the sale - my heart hurts :)

  • Baz lighter

    Thanks for the great review! The only thing? what remains unclear: how does he shoot the video?

    • Lynx

      you are welcome.
      well, there is a wildly uncomfortable button in front, next to the switch (it's hard to quickly feel and press) - here you poke at it and it seems to take off.
      I can't say anything about the quality, I had a chance to shoot only a couple of times, and that was from the category of “friends asked, they needed to capture”.
      if it helps you - autotuning, autoiso, minimum size (1270 * 720), 25 frames. without a tripod. https://youtu.be/1VCHboY2O2k

  • Baz lighter

    I also want to add that I'm a little shocked by the transition of the Lynx to the mirrorless. I did not expect this from you!

    • varganshik

      quite expected since for working with manual optics better than a bzk there is nothing

      • Lynx

        I do not work with manual optics so often, although I have a couple of my favorite glasses, but if they found a successful replacement in the form of autofocus lenses, I would switch.

    • Lynx

      Well, yes, leaving the hodgepodge was not easy, but I had nowhere else to go especially, personally to me.

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