Overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or a mirrorless camera in the hands of an amateur. Review from the reader Radozhiva.

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Review Fujifilm X-T10

Review Fujifilm X-T10

An overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or a mirrorless in the hands of an amateur, as well as: "mirrorless versus DSLRs - yes or no?"

All amusing nonsense is exclusively a lynx imha,

and based on the subjective experience of filming

to SLR and mirrorless cameras.

If you answer to the main question of the life of the universe and in general briefly and immediately - it all strongly depends on the requirements. In a considerable number of cases, the X-T10 / X-T1 is a very good replacement for an amateur DSLR (that's it, you don't have to read any further;)).

The exceptions, it seems to me, are:

  • professional reportage and its most difficult types (just do not confuse it with “reporter shooting” from pop concerts, performances of a children's sports school and club photos);
  • art and fashion shooting with high detail and shallow depth of field (if you have money for a medium format and optics for it, as well as understanding why this is necessary, this article is completely not for you)
  • Carrying a “cool cool DSLR” to impress customers and generally the feeling of working with “serious equipment” (yes, the ergonomics of mirrorless cameras are peculiar, and the look often “does not inspire confidence in“ serious people ”).

Most of the performance characteristics (matrices, dimensions, weight, etc.) can be viewed on the Internet, read the praises of the “original fuji matrix with a non-Bayer filter” (with which lightroom still works buggy, by the way) and learned phrases that “now you don’t need to wear a lot , and shoot for your own pleasure. "
Focus on honestly subjective.

Focusing

The most asked and controversial topic. The X-T10 has hybrid focusing - contrast focusing throughout the entire field of the frame, plus phase focusing along the central part of the frame, the coverage area of ​​the phase sensors is approximately comparable to those of Nikon D600. When choosing focus points, hybrid points are highlighted a little brighter than the rest. Focusing is fast, although it depends a lot on the lens, however, as always.

It is said that in cramped light conditions, the camera completely switches to contrast focusing, disabling the phase sensors. True or not, I don't know.

A very convenient option is to move around the frame not only one focus point, but also the “focus area” to several points, with adjustable size and proportions. A similar function (only without quick adjustment of the area) exists in professional DSLRs (for Nikon - starting with D200).

Focus Points Fujifilm X-T10

Usually, in mirrorless cameras, the joystick is configured like a “soap dish” - each button is assigned some action: changing the ISO / white balance / modes / selecting focus points. In the X-T10, in addition to this mode, you can turn on the “mode like a DSLR” - that is, four joystick buttons are immediately responsible for moving the focus point / area. And assign the desired adjustable parameters to the user settings screen - “Q”:

Fujifilm X-T10 Quick Menu

Focus Modes M / S / C? There is. Switch lever to the right of the bayonet. Classic.

Focusing with tracking objects on the frame field (what is called 3D focus in nikon)? There is. Although, it depends on the settings and contrast of the objects.

Face-based focusing? There is. In combination with the previous paragraph, it is very convenient to shoot children at play. And the ability to choose focusing according to the eyes, moreover, to choose from - on the left or right eye ...

Is the speed and focusing fast enough for amateur photography and general reportage? Definitely yes. At least, the focusing speed is not inferior (and sometimes exceeds in accuracy in dark conditions) the speed of my old s5pro, d90, d7000 and 3xxx / 5xxx series. Perhaps it may not be enough for professional reporting, but how many of those reading this are filming the Olympic Games?

A couple of subtleties:

  1. When shooting with continuous AF, the shutter mode must be “mechanical”. If the "electronic" or "electronic / mechanic" modes are selected, the focusing in the series will be performed on the first frame.
  2. There is such a very useful option as increasing the frame at the focus point by pressing the rear control dial (when viewing the footage it also works, by the way). Relevant for both manual and automatic focusing modes. Alas, it works only when focusing "one point".

Ergonomics

Just want to warn about one important point in the ergonomics of mirrorless cameras in general and “dozens” in particular. Unlike DSLRs, these are more like “left hand cameras”.
That is, it is easy to carry the camera “on the fingertips of the right hand " you are unlikely to succeed - your fingers will cramp, especially with a massive lens. The only exceptions are the configurations with a "kit", and 18 and 27 mm "pancakes". And this is the very feeling that the use of professional mirrors gives: "the camera is like an extension of the hand!" - will also be absent.

Despite some "oblique" models of the X-T series "for DSLRs" - all these thumb rests, a ledge on the pediment and other tricks, the principle of wearing system cameras is noticeably different from the central locking system. The first time you have to relearn.

An additional battle block / grip can partially correct the situation (at the same time making the camera more massive), bringing the ergonomics closer to the "mirror" one, but alas, for the X-T10 it is not provided even for the Chinese.
If only to do it yourself. ;)
From my current point of view, a Chinese leather sheath is enough. People with affluence and desire can buy the original case and additional grip from Fuji. Today it is about 4500 rubles for each point.

Fujifilm X-T10 with modding handle

For those who have spent a lot of time shooting with film SLRs and rangefinders (or had experience working with puppies;)), they will only have to remember old skills.

wearing exampleSo, the X-T10 is held in the left hand. Quite, just like the old zenith (or puppy): the thumb and forefinger form a “fork” for gripping and holding the lens, and the palm and other fingers hold the camera from below. It is comfortable, practical, leaves the right hand free, and protects the camera.
Wearing exampleYes, if you want to shoot with the camera stretched out and holding it in your right hand, this is a trick. However, with many lenses it will be difficult. Carrying in the left hand is much more convenient.

The complete neck strap, like most cameras, is hard. But high quality. True quality. And without the huge inscription "HEY PASSANS - HERE IS A DUDE WITH A MAGAZINE CAMERA!" So you can take a little time to knead it and get it fit.

If the neck strap is uncomfortable for you - I recommend putting a synthetic or leather wrist strap on the left - the belay and grip will definitely improve.

In general, Fuji and Olympus mirrorless cameras, with their ergonomics, dictate a slightly different shooting style than CZK. But we will consider the article “the influence of the type of camera on the psychological aspects of artistic creation” another time.

All buttons (except perhaps for the video recording button) are convenient and accessible, they are easily found blindly, they are pressed with good response, but without excessive stiffness.

The control wheels (both front and rear), in addition to rotation, can be pressed like buttons. On the front you can select an action, the back, by pressing, increases the focus area in full screen.

Turning on the camera - with a rotary lever around the shutter button, everything is like in Nikon.

All Fuji mirrorless cameras are used to control the exposure pair and modes: the aperture is set on the lens, and on the camera body - excerpt and exposure compensation. True, for several inexpensive lenses that do not have an aperture ring, the exposure is made by the control wheels, as in Nikon.
И excerpt and the diaphragm have the “A” position - auto in the extreme positions. By placing them in the “A” position in different combinations, we get modes M, A, S and P. Everything is simple and convenient.

In case you need to hand the camera into the hands of someone who is not familiar with the intricacies of shooting, there is an “auto” lever under the shutter speed dial, which turns the camera into “green” mode with tracking autofocus.

By the way, the mode is quite hysterical - for some reason it has a constant, non-disconnectable, tracking autofocus, so the lens constantly buzzes and fidgets. As it turned out, unprepared people are unnerved, as if they were given a small nimble animal.

On the left, on the top panel, there is a drive for selecting drive modes (single frame, fast and slow series), two types of brackets (according to exposure, types of films and more. Configured in the menu) of two types of filters (about them below), as well as panoramic shooting and multiple exposure... The latter is very conveniently implemented - after shooting the first frame, it is superimposed on the screen with a translucent background, so that you can see the combination of images.

Viewfinder and screen

The screen is typical for the present time, just over three inches, with good color rendering and angles. I recommend sticking a matte protective film or glass - it will be much more convenient to work under the bright sun. Leans back with the help of the protrusions on the left (they cling well with the nail of the index finger), down 45 and up 90 degrees.
Viewfinder… I've seen different viewfinders, both in old Fuji models, in sony-nex babies and in new Olympus. To be honest - this is the best! Both in colors and in detail. Subjectively, it is only slightly smaller than the viewfinder of a full-frame DSLR, but larger than on the crop, especially the “younger” one.

The viewfinder and screen can be switched using the proximity sensor and have 4 modes:

  • Only the screen works (constantly)
  • Only the viewfinder works (constantly)
  • The screen works, but when brought to the eye (about 5-7 cm), it switches to the viewfinder
  • Only the viewfinder works, but it turns on only when brought to the eye.

The “sleep” button is badly lacking, as it is, for example, implemented in modern cell phones - every time you click the switch gets tired.

Also, I would very much like the mode “in the viewfinder - the image, on the screen - only the settings and the quick user menu”.

As befits mirrorless, not related to technical parameters JVI - both the screen and the viewfinder can display a lot, a lot of any additional information, starting with ISO / shutter speed / aperture and ending with the virtual horizon and three types of manual focus assistance.
The main advantage EVI (and screen) Fuji was able to display the space with the already selected settings. Example photo on fujifilm X-T10

For example, if you shoot in manual mode and you twist the shutter speed and aperture too much, the camera will show you an almost black screen. Or strongly overexposed, depending on the parameters.

Example photo on fujifilm X-T10
And using the exposure compensation wheel (located on the top of the camera, on the right), you can easily choose the lighting of the frame, for example, when shooting an evening city - from light twilight to deep night with lights.

 

Menu

Everything is simple, convenient, concise, with a bunch of possible fine-tuning "for yourself".
The menu logic is closest to Nikon's - a vertical column of squares a1-a5 / s1-s3 to the left and pop-up menus from it. In the Russian version, you sometimes have to pry into the instructions what certain abbreviations mean. But in general, everything is clear.

Lenses

The first and most important thing about Fuji system lenses is that almost all of them are tops. Yes, that's right, there are practically no “cheap and compromise” glasses in fujiks, with the exception of a 27 mm fixer and several “whales” of standard focal lenses (16-50 and 55-200). And even in this case, the simplest 16-55 / 3,5-5,6 produces a very, very good picture.
Most of the fixes have aperture f / 1,4, some at f / 2, zooms from f / 2,8. The construction is almost always all-metal, without any rubber bands and plastic.
About any of the Fuji lenses, we can say: "Matsash in hands, sweep - a thing!"
The advantage of this approach is the fact that you really want to shoot with any of the lenses without bothering. The downside is the price. Who wants to be horrified by modern prices - welcome to the Yandex market.

Fuji lenses feature electronic control rings - transmission of zoom, aperture and focusing parameters is not mechanical, but electronic. On the one hand, it allows you to make smooth adjustment when shooting a video, as well as full dust and moisture resistance of the lens. On the other hand, you will also have to get used to this, the reaction of the lenses is not as unambiguous as with mechanical control.

But there is a fairly large stroke of the focus ring, about two turns from MDF to infinity, which gives great opportunities when shooting.

I happened to shoot on 4 lenses of the Fujifilm system:

  1. 16-50 / 3,5-5,6. The standard and most common whale. Plastic, although the design completely repeats the older brothers. There is no aperture ring - aperture and stabilizer control - from the carcass, like in a DSLR. The first version was boring in drawing, but not bad in sharpness (it is often preferred to the more expensive 18-55 / 2,8-4), the second - they say even better, but I have not yet got my hands on it. Built-in good stabilizer.
  2. 35 / 1,4. Amazing "normal" lens. Sharpness, drawing, constructive - everything is on top! Completely metallic. Has a diaphragm ring. It can be safely recommended as a standard and main lens for creative and family photography.
  3. Example photo on fujifilm X-T1023 / 1,4. Very nice shirik with a huge aperture and no less enormous price. Cut across the entire field almost immediately from the open. For its characteristics, it is quite compact, although not easy, all the same it is a metal structure. Switching to manual mode - like on Tokina lenses - you need to pull the focusing wheel towards you, opening the distance scale and depth of field. Among the shortcomings - except that the focusing ring and aperture rotate very easily, sometimes they get confused by a simple touch with a finger.
  4. LYNX2879_for review18/2. Reporting staff. EGF - 27 mm, classic reportage focal length of film times. Often they swear at him that he lathers the edges on an open aperture, but personally this does not really bother me. But it is very compact (the camera fits in a jacket pocket with it), relatively inexpensive and fast in focusing. And it also has its own, quite soulful pattern with volume. The focus and aperture rings are metal, with a tight, pleasant ride.

 

 

Accumulators

Yes, they do not last long - from 300 to 600 frames (someone mentioned 1000), depending on the mode of use, and you need to monitor / turn off the camera so that it does not eat too much (although there is a sleep timer). Yes, it's best to always have a spare with you. Yes, it is better to take the original, and not China (which are at least a third less capacious, and in general can glitch or burn out at any time. Yes, this is not cheap - the original now costs about 1,6-2,5 thousand (although you can manage to take it in within a thousand with all sorts of discounts).
Battery charging time is about an hour and a half in a situation "Oh, I ought to charge!" and about two are able "Well, everyone, we have arrived".

About color and light

Canonists, judging by the reviews on the forum, do not notice any losses in the dynamic range when switching to fujik. In flowers - they are very happy.
Nikonists, especially those with multi-pixel cameras (D610 / D7100), may find the dynamic range in jeepgs to be too small in highly contrasting scenes. But the raves are practically the same "stringy" as those of Nikon, and the colors and skin tone are undoubtedly better.

An example is a jeep without treatment, a jeep with extended shadows at +100 in lightrum, and a rav with extended shadows at +100 in lightroom:

Personally, after the "soak", with its huge DD in the jeepgs, I had to remember about raves and master Capture One, but the colors did not disappoint.

Flash work

With outbreaks, Fuji is a little complicated and a bit simple.

Difficult - because the system is new, and the models of third-party manufacturers of TTL-flashes for them - the cat cried, now there is only Meike-320 - a small two-battery, but quite successful model and Nissin-40i - a classic model with a swivel head, although the dimensions are slightly smaller than usual ...

Simply - because there are only three “native” flashes, you will not get confused:

  • EF-42, amateur classic flash, analogue of sb-700 - 4 batteries, swivel and lifting head, guide number - 42. There is autofocus illumination, but no remote control system. For mirrorless cameras - definitely large and inconvenient. Apparently it was developed "in spite of mirror makers."
  • EF-20, small dual-battery flash with the ability to "swing up". Control - through the camera menu, the guide number is 20. It couldn't be easier and, to be honest, uglier too.
  • EF-X20 flash on tripodEF-X20, a tiny “matchbox”, a guide number of 20, control - a single power and correction wheel on the top edge, a power button and a “Test” button. No zoom, no rotations, only built-in wide-angle adapter with lever. Among the shortcomings - perhaps not too fast a recharge cycle: 5-6 seconds at 1/1 power, and almost instantaneous starting from 1/4 and below. In addition to TTL and manual mode, it has the ability to remotely ignite from the built-in flash. The most stylish and convenient of the three (yes, it has AAA batteries, so you need a spare one).
  • There are rumors about a new "reporting" outbreak from Fuji, but so far there are no clear descriptions yet.

EF-X20 with cover:

flash EF-X20 kitflash EF-X20 comparison
X-T10 Flash Remote Control:

  1. for EF-X20 - by “ignition” from the built-in flash, in manual mode. At the same time, the bottom of the flash has a switch for TTL-mode, manual tracking, and “P” tracking mode, which apparently allows the flash not to react to “red-eye preflashes”. Well, studio / manual flashes are naturally also “ignited”.
  2. By sync cable, by hot shoe. They say that cables from the Canon system are suitable, but the arrangement of the contacts on the shoe is somewhat different from the Canon ones. Nikon's TTL cable doesn't fit exactly. Perhaps the so-called. A “universal TTL cable” would be the best solution in this situation.
  3. Radio synchronizers via hot shoe. Any - for manual modes, or possibly E-TTL for Canon system (info not verified).

Fuji EF-X20 and studio chinese flash:

Fuji EF-x20 and Chinese studio flash

A little trick that helps you not to worry about the invertedness of the flash:EF-X20 flash with reflector

With a forehead flash:

direct flash shot

And with a reflector from a piece of foil:

Shot with flash and reflector "to the ceiling"

As a means of holding foil paper, in increasing efficiency: fingers, elastic band for money, magnetic strip (bought in an advanced store for printers or from manufacturers of magnets)

For integrated flash X-T10, in the menu, has only 4 operating modes:

  • "Forced" is a simple TTL mode. Before operating, the flash must be raised with the lever on the left of the top panel.
  • Slow sync.
  • 2-curtain sync - read "rear curtain"
  • Commander Command mode. Alas, fujah has nothing like Nikon's CLS, in this mode the flash works with a minimum power sufficient only for ignition external flash.
  • Disabled flash. Why this item is needed, as well as the first one - I am lost in conjecture (after all, the flash fires only if it is raised), most likely the menu is as unified as possible with other camera models, and these items are intended for cameras with non-liftable flashes - to disable / enable them in this way. However, when this menu item is selected, the raised flash will not fire.

Additional built-in flash settings:

  • Flash exposure compensation +2 0 -2, in increments of 1/3.
  • Enabling disabling the “remove red eyes” mode. Moreover, it was implemented not by pre-flashes, as usual, but at the software level - the automation detects the face and “blackens the pupils”.
  • There is no manual mode.

Since the viewfinder (and the screen) shows the picture in accordance with the selected exposure pair and exposure compensation, allowing you to select shooting parameters in real time, for working with flashes and in the studio, the “screen” menu has a “view exposure in manual mode - on / off ”. When you turn it off EVI and the screen starts working as usual JVI... This function can be assigned to function keys “Fn”, but it cannot be assigned to Custom Menu “Q”.

Wi-fi

Wireless communication in the X-T10 has four functions:

  1. Work with tablets and smartphones. Android and Ios.
  2. Autosave to the computer.
  3. Impressing geotags for photos from a GPS smartphone.
  4. Intax wireless wearable printer.
Work with tablets and smartphones.

Everything is very simple and fast. The application database (googleplay and applestory) has an application. It is downloaded, installed, configured, and now, each time you turn on Wi-Fi in your smartphone and Fujik, and confirm the connection in the camera, you get 4 functions:

  • Copying / receiving (not moving!) Selected photos to a smartphone (the camera has a function “transfer a compressed file”) In this mode, you need to select which photos to transfer and which not to transfer on the camera screen.
  • View camera memory. The same as the previous point, only in this case all copying and selection control takes place from the smartphone screen. Basically, it is a choice “what to put back in your pocket - a camera or a smartphone?”.
  • Shooting control - aiming, shutter release, changing shooting parameters - iso, excerpt, flash mode, timer, photo or video, correction exposure and so on.
  • Geotagging - transferring the coordinates of the current location to the camera when shooting.

Fujifilm X-T10 Wi-Fi connection screen
The connection is almost instantaneous. When working with a camera, working with the Internet via Wi-Fi on the smartphone is automatically blocked.
Among the shortcomings - every time after executing a menu item, when returning to the selection of items, you have to reconnect.
This function can be assigned to one of the function buttons “Fn”

PC autosave

A special autosave program is downloaded from the Fuji website (versions for Win and Ios), and, when installed, is assigned to startup, in standby mode. At the same time, you need to configure a network connection on the camera (name / password or several other methods) - through a home wifi router or access point. The network settings are then saved in the camera's memory. Up to six wifi- networks can be stored.
For autosave, you need to go to the photo view mode, and select the item “autosave on pc” there. It takes about 20-30 seconds to connect and authorize in the autosave program, and another half a minute to check and copy 10-20 jpg files.
Unfortunately, you cannot assign autosave either to function keys or to the custom menu.

Imprinting geotags for photos from a GPS smartphone

Everything is simple here - you turn on the GPS on your smartphone, run the same connection program, and it transmits the tags for recording to EXIF any freshly shot frame. At the same time it displays on the screen an icon “landmarks received”. For some reason, it is indicated that “the time of continuous operation is 1 hour”.

Instax SHARE SP-1 Wireless Wearable Printer

Intax printer

Photo - honestly stolen from the official website of the manufacturer.

This is a very funny idea from Fujifilm, based on their modern Instax Polaroid cameras. It is a printed block from a similar camera with a projector screen inside, a wi-fi module and powered by a pair of batteries.
Dimensions: 101,6 mm x 42 mm x 122,5 mm, weight: 253 g (without battery and film), hung with a clip on a belt.
The price is about 8-9 thousand rubles for January 2015.
Pictures are taken in size 46 * 62 mm, plus a white frame like a polaroid.
It feeds on cassettes from Fujifilm "a la Polaroid", for 10 pictures (type "mini"), the price of 4-5 hundred rubles each.
Whoever has read this far is already well done!
Basically, this amusement is needed for all sorts of parties, and for paid photo shoots, when in half a minute, during the shooting, you can make several “photos for a purse” - a pleasant surprise for the customer. Well, or you can make a concept exhibition.

Other

Film Profiles and Job Emulation

The camera has half a dozen preset color profiles, mostly imitating certain types of film, including the legendary kodak chrome and classic sepia. Moreover, it shows them immediately in the viewfinder when shooting. And also - 7 options for user settings (in which film profiles are just one of the adjustable parameters). Any of these can be switched through the quick menu or by assigned function keys, by the combination “pressed the button-turned the wheel / clicked the joystick”. The fun options that can be assigned to the left “tower” are black and white with only one color tolerance - red, yellow, blue, green and orange.

color choice - blue

color choice - red

Memory cards

One of the differences between x-t10 and x-t1 is frame buffer... In X-T10, it is limited to about 8-10 frames, and after that the camera thinks about recording to a USB flash drive. In many forums it is recommended (and I agree) to spend on a high-speed card, with a speed of at least 80-95 Mbps. The recording lag drops significantly - at a slow serial speed, the card overflow does not occur at all, at a fast speed it starts to slow down after the tenth or twelfth frame.
No, some inexpensive card, like the Transcend Class 10, is not fast and slows down a lot. The recording speed must be indicated on the card (or in the description). Some kind of SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC 16 GB (or better 32) is good enough.

The most “continuous-rapid-fire” option is the “jeep-normal” option with the minimum file size and all the enhancements disabled - about 20 frames (2,5 seconds) of continuous shooting without slowing down the speed.

True, all of the above concerns the jpg format, in raw - a camera with a fast card slows down the shooting speed somewhere after the tenth frame in a slow burst and after the sixth or seventh in a fast burst (but does not stop shooting!).

XNUMXrd party lenses

Through the appropriate adapters are put almost any. The most common adapters on the M42, on the M39, Nikon and Canon. Alas, for autofocus glasses, the iris control (and even more so the focusing drive or zoom) will not work. Of particular interest is the possibility of using interesting rangefinder glasses.

Fujifilm X-T10 and Jupiter-37MS (via Fuji-M42 adapter)

Fujifilm X-T10 and Jupiter-37MS

Lens caps

Uncomfortable, and slip out of your fingers. Classic "a la nikon" is much more practical. But it's easier to put a good protective filter and forget about the covers.

Wishes to the developers of Fujifilm:

  1. menu item "view exposure in manual mode - on / off ”. - very much needed in the “custom Q menu”.
  2. the function “connect to tablet” and “autosave” need to be added to “custom Q screen”
  3. I really need a "sleep" button under duress, or at least setting in the sleep timing menu not only for 2 and 5 minutes - they are too long.
  4. Also, I would very much like the mode “in the viewfinder - the image, on the screen - only the settings, and the quick user menu”. - as it is already implemented with the mode of viewing pictures. And then, setting the "viewfinder only" mode, it is impossible to adjust the shooting parameters on the screen, and to shoot - only through the viewfinder, as on DSLRs.
  5. On the button / command "turn on wi-fi" you need to make a choice - they will connect to a tablet or computer / other networks (and not scatter it into two commands in two different menus), otherwise you have to climb each menu to turn on autosave in order to throw off a pair -three photo. Well, it connects for a long time, unfortunately. Maybe what kind of usb-wifi device to release so that it can be plugged into the computer - and it immediately connects the camera, with the same program as in smartphones?

Price and consistency

Alas and ah, the option “I'll go to a mirrorless camera, everything is cheaper and better there” is a myth.
If you completely switch to a mirrorless system, with native lenses, automation and convenience, you will have to spend money.

I'll make a reservation right away - yes, there are inexpensive solutions for a narrow range of tasks.

For example, for “purely manual work with high-quality color” there is a very suitable and relatively inexpensive fuji X-m1 on the secondary market. For 12-17 thousand, subject to the purchase of a used one, you get a tiny pocket crop-1,5, with a proprietary matrix, a set of adapters for the main systems (M42, M39, watering can, Nikon), a manual focusing system, Wi-Fi and a folding screen ... If you add your own “whale” 16-50 / 3,5-5,6 for 10 rubles - you have a device for creative, studio shooting and family holidays.

For street photography, the pocket and inexpensive Sony nex 5, 6, 7 versions, or A5100 are quite suitable. With pancake or whale. Or Olympus pen-series (starting with five).

Actually, a mirrorless inexpensive (at the price of a younger SLR) system for "Film the family and put the camera back in your pocket" these are non-top small models of Olympus / Sony / Fuji / Panasonic - without a viewfinder, with a rotating screen and a whale / pancake included (in the case of Olympus, a whale-pancake).

But! If you build a universal system with the optimal set of functions, good focus and automatic lenses, forget about the savings regarding DSLRs.

I'll give you a concrete example.
To switch to Fuji, I had to sell:

S5pro with all devices

Total - 71-73 thousand rubles.

For this amount bought:

  1. Fujifilm X-T10 - 43000 rubles (connected + 3000 bonuses from Fuji for the promotion +2000 points of the connected + 1270 rubles for saving for using the card when buying online).
  2. Fujinon 18 / 2 - a pancake-lens with an ERF of 27 mm (classic reportage film times) - 18000 rubles in M-video. And this is the old price, only in M-video there are few lenses left for such a price, the new price is 32000 rubles.
  3. Battery WP-126, native to Fuj, with a 2-year warranty, price of 1630 in the store, minus ~ 300 points with the "points" system from Sberbank, and minus 300 rubles for a review on a purchase in a connected camera. total - 1000 rubles in fact.
  4. Flash (I would like a couple) EF-X20 (9000 at the price tag in a connected) +2 sets of eneloop AAA batteries (1000 rubles / set) + SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC card 16 GB (1600 rubles). This whole set costs 12600 rubles, but - minus gift points from Fuji for the winter promotion, minus points from “Svyaznoy” from buying a camera, minus points for paying with a card - we get something about 8000 rubles.
  5. From ebeya adapters to M42, M39, Nikon ~ 1400 rubles.
  6. Kaleinar 5N - 1000 rubles in the commission.

Total ~ approximately the same 71-72 thousand rubles.

Not to say cheap, right? And this despite the fact that recently Fuji did raise prices for carcasses and optics.
However, it can be noted that these are new prices for new, and quality enough for their prices, products.

Why exactly x-t10, and not xt-1, x-e2, or new Olympus or sony?

With dormouse everything is simple - I don't like them. No view, no ergonomics, no picture.
With the Olympus - it's more complicated, the new OMD E10 Mark 2 and OMD E5 Mark 2 are the most convenient little cameras that I have ever held in my hands. Really - they directly flow into the hand and everything is convenient everywhere and does not shake anywhere. And there is a huge selection of lenses. And the viewfinder is good (although I liked the fujik much more). And branded Olympic beautiful colors. Stabilizer in the matrix. Fastest autofocus. Everything, literally everything is good!
Except for one “but”. Because of the crop-2, the Olympuses have the most boring picture, flat as a children's folding book-with-lock. There are absolutely no volumes. Even with good chiaroscuro. Even on top fixes. Alas. I didn't like it at all.
fuji X-E2 - there is no rotary screen and ergonomics are a little disliked.

Fuji X-M1 is one of the most successful fuji mirrorless cameras, relatively inexpensive, but alas, there is no viewfinder and hybrid autofocus, although as a second, pocket camera is quite good. An acquaintance of mine in St. Petersburg specially took her to work with manual lenses in the studio.

fuji X-T1 with the release of X-Pro 2 has lost its top status, losing to the new model in all respects, except for the price (not much) and the presence of a rotary screen. At the same time, the X-T10 outperforms the former flagship in smaller dimensions and weight, having the same matrix and focusing system, as well as a much lower price (about 20 thousand rubles), yielding only to the lack of weather protection, a little in the buffer and the size of the viewfinder, and having lost a few beautiful, but not critically necessary "twists" on the body.

Why mirrorless?

That's why:why fujik

By the way. A very big plus of such a system is that people, even unfamiliar ones, are not at all afraid of you, do not shy away like “from a big black camera”. This allows you to quite calmly shoot everyday scenes and other reportage interesting things.

Well, and one more thing. They really want to shoot.

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Comments: 298, on the topic: Overview of the Fuji X-T10 system camera or mirrorless in the hands of an amateur. Review from the reader Radozhiva.

  • fotika

    Fujim was imbued with the announcement of x-pro1. at the end of 2013 (shooting for almost a year) I was delighted with the results in jpg. all vacation hacked in jpg + raw. arrived home, looked with my wife pictures and wiped the ravines. Then it was successfully sold because it did not cover all the necessary FRs. but this year I also became the owner of t10 (I thought about t1 for a long time) but there is pro2 (will be)
    T10 + 56 1.2 and 23 1.4 is a real work kit, even for commerce. I have not tried it yet, but I think soon I will completely switch to mirrorless mirrors.

    ps only I took silver, he is more sympathetic)

    • Lynx

      Silver didn’t get it that silver is paint, not metal.

      • zengarden

        What a twist! and I thought, as in the old cells, the metal-stone ... it’s good that I took the black one (although I had no choice, there was only one in the whole city).

        • Lynx

          there verhotura - metal, casting, but then - primer and painting, so that it was with the rest of the details on top in the same color, and to be honest - not the nicest paint. This is not HT1 "grafitium"

      • fotika

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imKQZoQ1_U

        who cares, a complete production process.
        At the expense of paint, I don’t even know how much this will affect the quality of the pictures. But the black version looks dumb. It looks like mirrorless from Samsung to me. and this one is closer to the fuja 100 series.

        • Lynx

          I do not know how much the similarity of silver to the hundredth series affects the quality of images, but it looks cheap

          • fotika

            that’s the point that does not affect in any way. I had a color scheme of the case. I like the silver color, and if pro2 were in silver, then this is +100500 to cool))) but if it weren’t like that, I would use black (I’ll take it)
            Well, if you already begin to reason from your point of view, then in addition to being cheap, it probably removes worse than black. and the buttons probably don’t squeeze that way, and the whole aura is worse)))

            reminds me of my employee. Everything that he bought (PCs, monitors, telephones) is simply sacred and special, one hundred pounds better than anyone else, and if someone has the same thing as him, he will find a million reasons to explain why his copy is better and not like everyone else. so do you with T10.

            I somehow came to work with 1dh + 85 1.2, and the same passenger, finding out how good it was, said that I was stupid, and you can shoot for example on the D3300, which is easier, more convenient and cheaper + it has more MP. that and in general he will remove his phone no worse than me)

            what I’m leading to, all this electronics is a lot of rubbish and glass, boards and wires. creating cults in your head and being the only parishioner is at least stupid. and as far as I can remember, Leica, Bessa, Rolleiflex and other cameras were in silver + black colors. which essentially fuji tried to repeat when the first x100 came out.
            and for starters about cheapness, in 2015 I was at an exhibition of consumer goods from an ERC distributor who is a Fuji off partner, the discussion revealed that in Ukraine, the demand for t10, E2, x100t carcasses is 2 times higher than for black.

            • zengarden

              I haven't seen fuja in silver live, but in the picture it looks prettier, more like a film apparatus. Especially X100 * are good :) for whom it is important - we are ready to overpay. Of course, this has no consumer advantages.

            • Lynx

              For some reason, I got the impression that you are not communicating with your opponent, but with your imagination, as I don’t even want to interfere with your conversation to slip into the most banal capitulation.

              • fotika

                the answer from the category, in no way, at all)))

              • Ivan

                +1

  • Vladimir

    Can you have a photo of the X-T10 and D3300 nearby?

    • Lynx

      As soon as I get to at least some kind of Nikon, I'll do it. I will post it on the site.

      • Vladimir

        No need on the site, here it is.

        • Lynx

          in the comments, if I do not forget, approx.

          • Vladimir

            AHA, thanks.
            The current does not need to be set next to 7200 or 610.
            Compare the comparable. :)))

            • Lynx

              Yes, no, in fact this is exactly the analog of 7200. Yes, and with an equal price with used 610, it was Fujik that was chosen.

              • Vladimir

                Good joke. Appreciated.

              • scif

                I beg !!!! Nikon D7200 will tear it like a rag in everything!

            • Lynx

              but if there is a younger carcass, I will take a picture

  • Andrei

    great article but too long

    • Lynx

      it is she after the reduction. )))

  • StudioRAK

    3 years in the hands of Fujik X-E1 and a year and a half Fujik X-T1 :) sea of ​​native glass Fujinon and adapters for old glass :) I live, I'm happy :)

  • Alexander

    There is some special CHARM for this kind of camera.

    I am very pleased with my unpretentious, by my standards, Sony A65 and a glass park from Minolta. But just picking up the Olympus OM-D E5, you immediately understand the difference in style and “class” of technology. I will not say that he takes pictures better than Sonya, but they really want to take pictures. Even without photographing, but simply holding it in your hands, you enjoy the very sight of it.

    I really like these "kids".

    T10 is worth a lot of money. Such cameras are similar to technical art bullion.

  • Eugene

    Please tell me the first photo (evening) with the rays from the lamps: is it exactly on f2? or was wearing a filter with rays?

    • Lynx

      it’s exactly on F2 and there was a light filter with rays, yes.

  • Dmitry K

    who wanted to compare cameras by size - you are here http://camerasize.com

  • valery

    Thank you so much for the review. I have not seen such an interesting and detailed for a long time. Thanks again (and will it be?).

    • Lynx

      and also about him? ))

  • valery

    No. About different devices and lenses. I liked your style and humor from the Lens Club.

    • Lynx

      a. It is unlikely that I will do this, since there is no need and I understand only what has got into the clutches.
      Some similar articles can be found in my LJ.
      As for the lens-club humor, it’s not entirely clear. Is there such a site or is it a hint of a gum club?

      • Andrei

        there is a site such a lens-club.
        it’s only about lenses and mostly about manual ones.

        • Lynx

          it is understandable, although it has never happened to notice humor there, it may not have looked quite there.

      • Lykarion

        Lynx, write more! For Radozhiva, your subjectivity is like a breath of fresh air :) Arkady, of course, does the right thing, but sometimes he doesn't rush to read about how many Helios 44 there are, or that such and such a lens will not fit such and such a camera. So, at the very least, we are waiting for the reviews of the lenses for Fujik!

        • Lynx

          I'll try

  • lesa

    I also changed the D750 to the A7m2 mirrorless.
    Fujiki watched, watched, but the full frame still won. In general, I do not regret a single drop.
    I also took as a staff member a compact autofocus reportman 28/2.
    Manual portraitbook Contax Zeiss 85 / 1.4
    Now I decide with a telephoto .. so many options are already horror)) and zeiss and elki fd-shny .. 80-200, 300, 400 .. my head is spinning (:

    • zengarden

      FF is a completely different size and price of optics. Hopefully the wise Japanese from Fuji will not take this path. And the recent release of X-Pro2 only confirms the thesis that size is not the main thing :)

  • Peter Sh.

    “A very big plus of such a system is that people, even unfamiliar ones, are not at all afraid of you ...”

    The chicken is not a bird, the reporter is not a person (((
    Rather - an orc from the hellish dungeons. Thanks to all the handshake and conscientious media.

  • zengarden

    Heh, and I was aware that the Lynx acquired the X-T10 :) review is very helpful.
    I also joined recently, mastering. The camera is good! but there is a drawback - too small, uncomfortably grabbed, especially after Nikon.
    I am now waiting for the ordered adapters for manual optics.

  • grandfather

    Accessible and understandable even to me, thanks.

    • Lynx

      you are welcome.

  • Peter Sh.

    Lynx, Kenya Rockwell writes that the colors (not skin tone) are quite dull compared to Nikon. You cannot, they say, lift up saturation - the leaves are withered, the flowers are lethargic, the sunsets are boring, the beer is warm and life is gray.
    How are things with bushes and flower beds?

    • Lynx

      At the moment, something like this:

    • Lynx

      For me, the colors are just what you need - the sky is blue, the houses are yellow, red is red and bronze is bronze.
      Acidity can of course be increased, but in the concept of fujika itself, this principle is not particularly driven. although I can take pictures with the "wrapped" flowers now.

    • Lynx

      jeepg, flash "standard to zero"

    • Lynx

      well, emulation "Velvia" - "for landscapes and nature"
      plus twisted in +2 colors and tones.
      those. In principle, the maximum for the on-camera jeep.

    • zengarden

      Life is gray - because the time of year is ... spring will come, flowers and girls will blossom, life will sparkle with new colors! then we will compare.

    • serega

      when ken wrote this, he was most likely drunk :)

  • Lynx

    emulation "kodak chrome".

    • Peter Sh.

      Thanks, thanks!
      Obviously, all sorts of sighs and sighs about fadedness, highlights, small DD, etc. - complete bullshit.

  • Zekkery

    I bought x-t10 myself a month ago: I'm very happy with the purchase. Due to its low weight, it is not at all a burden to carry it with you in your backpack every day. Before that, there was a Canon 5d plus a stock zoom ... which is about 2.5-3 kg. Comments are superfluous.
    And about the grip with the left hand - it was a revelation for me. All ingenious is simple.

    • Vladimir

      Only 2,5? I thought 6-7 ...

      • Dim

        And Nikon 10-20 kg plus personal belongings and lenses. I was unfortunate enough to have at least something to shoot and look cool enough in Tai to carry three of their D700, D300 and D40 at once and a bunch of lenses - but disappointed me a little. All minuses have their pluses.

        • Vladimir

          It's good to be a moral rogue. The D5300 with a native 16-85 is an absolutely sufficient bunch on any journey. :)))

          • Dim

            I strongly dislike the whale - first, it is light and compact and everyone has it здо Much more stylish ☺, as I noticed, the Pentacon 200 / 4.0 looks on, oddly enough, the D40. Although the d700 c 80-200 / 2.8 is also solid.
            I myself would not have bought the first mirror not with a zoom, but now I understand that 30 should be used for a crop, as an analogue of 50.

            • Lynx

              16-85 is not a whale, but a reporter and a good one.

  • Evgchita

    “HEY PASANI - HERE A DUKE WITH A HAMMERAGE CAMERA!”.
    : D) Class. Exactly.

  • B.R.P.

    Thank you Lynx! Information is suggestive.

    • Lynx

      this makes me happy. )

  • Trekhsotkovich

    Lynx Congratulations on your purchase of Fuji! The review is excellent. Everything is in detail painted. But there are inaccuracies you wrote that even the Chinese do not have a grab but it is for sale, here is the link http://ali.pub/2i8d54

    • Lynx

      I wrote about the voluminous handle-block, and not the flu, which is both original and ugly Chinese.

      • Trekhsotkovich

        Clear. I just saw your homemade wooden hilt, and thought you were talking about flu :)

        • Lynx

          this is pure experiment, although convenient.
          it would be tedious to get the original flu.

    • Lynx

      oh yes - thanks!

  • Trekhsotkovich

    Regarding the setting of the sleep timing, not only for 2 and 5 minutes - the X-Pro1 has another 30 seconds, probably because the PRO :) The X-E2 also only has 2 and 5 minutes even after the firmware on February 4, 2016 :(

  • Trekhsotkovich

    The menu item "viewing the exposure in manual mode - on / off" in X-E2 after the firmware on February 4, 2016 can be hung on any of the 7 fast Fn buttons.
    Previously, it was also enraging that behind this setting, you constantly need to climb into the menu.
    At the expense of caps for lenses I agree. They are miserable.
    Regarding, I would very much like the mode "in the viewfinder - the image, on the screen - only the settings" - I can put it this way on both the X-Pro1 and X-E2, I don’t think that it’s impossible on your X-T10, maybe did not understand the menu?

    • Lynx

      there are no such modes on the viewfinder control button.
      and the menu is also not detected.

      • Trekhsotkovich

        It's strange. On both carcasses (X-Pro1 and X-E2), it is enough to turn on the camera, and without bringing it to my face, press the DISP / BACK button a couple of times until the screen displays only the shooting parameters as on Nikon, ala black the whole screen, and on it white infa about shooting settings, but when in this mode you bring the camera to your eye, then in the viewfinder you see the same thing as in a DSLR, that is, the world around you, thus Fuji turns into a complete semblance of a mirror cameras, only with EVI instead of OVI (and in the case of the X-Pro1 also OVI & EVI to choose from)

        • Lynx

          a, it is. This means “activating the screen only by pressing the Q key”, for settings and turning off back.

          • Trekhsotkovich

            Clear. Well, I don't have this on the X-E2, which is very annoying when you want to save a lot of battery using ONLY the viewfinder, but changing the Q-menu settings looking through the viewfinder is annoying :) What is surprising is that in the X-Pro1 you can do this, but again ONLY when you work with OVI, and when you turn on the EVI, the same parsley turns out ...

  • Trekhsotkovich

    About flash it is written that the cat burst into tears of third-party manufacturers of TTL flash units, now there is only the Mets-320 - a small dual-battery, and the Nissin-40i - a classic model with a rotary head. But there is also a Meike mk-320 that is sold on Aliexpress, I’ve bought it myself and have been using it in TTL mode for more than a year now, it also works on 2 AAA pinky batteries. Or in the article a typo and instead of Mets-320 you need to write Meike mk-320.

    • Lynx

      yes, a typo.

    • serega

      and in slave mode from the camera commander works fine?

      • Trekhsotkovich

        serega if you're talking about Meike mk-320 then YES. It works normally, but only in Manual mode. That is, on Fuji X-E2 I put the built-in flash in Commander mode, and this Meike mk-320 in S1 or S2 mode does not matter, and I set the power on the Meike mk-320 flash manually. When I take a picture, the built-in flash of the X-E2 in the commander mode ignites the Meike mk-320 without any problems.

        • serega

          ok, thanks. about that.

  • Victor

    Are there any thoughts on 18-55 2,8 / 4 for this camera? And further. Is there any dynamic range information compared to Nikon matrices? Unfortunately dxomark has no information on the latest Fuji cameras.

    • Lynx

      well, it exists, but it is expensive and, they say, fails to sharpen the far end, so many people prefer whale 16-50, it is not inferior in sharpness, but much cheaper.
      IMHO - if we take a universal zoom - then 18-135. To be honest, I have a strong distrust of the lenses designated / 2,8-4. I never met a single suitable one - most often it was a snake pulling on a hedgehog.
      I haven't been using Nikon's matrices for about 1,5 years, so I can't say for sure. Personally, it seems to me that DD is close to Canon's 12,5 ev, but there is a STRONG difference in Jeepgs and Ravs. On the whole, the DD races suit me. Jeepgs - only on scenes with a not too wide spread of brightness, he is far from getting into a jeep. However, everyone is far from getting into a jeep.

      • Victor

        Thank you

    • serega

      dxomark not only has no information. their converter does not support x-trans ravs. anyway with x-m1 :).
      generally poorly handle lightrum, ACR. C1 last 9th - not bad. But to get the colors of the camera jeep you need to tinker. The person on dpreview laid out different ICC profiles for C1, more interesting and more accurate than the built-in ones.

      about tonal dynamics (and not only :)) can be found here

      http://www.optyczne.pl/309.8-Test_aparatu-Fujifilm_X-T10_Zakres_i_dynamika_tonalna.html

  • Trekhsotkovich

    By the way, Lynx, maybe it’s useful to you, after a year of using Fuji-kov, I set myself up the BANKS of settings, which can be changed in the Q-menu with one rotation of the rear wheel-drive. Thus, you can almost forget about Raws, and always shoot in Jpeg only changing profiles for different stories.
    To set up in-camera profiles, go to the main camera menu (MENU OK button)
    Tab 3 (with camera icon)
    RED / SAVE
    Open, we see the profiles: User 1, User 2, etc. up to the 7th profile ...
    We open each profile in order and configure by setting the parameters below as in my picture for customization.
    After setting the settings in each profile, press the joystick “left” (or the DISP / BACK button). The USER SETTINGS 1 menu appears? - press "YES". Voila, the first profile is set up. Move on to the second and so on.
    Here is a transcript for what conditions each profile is needed.
    CUSTOM 1 (aka C1) BASIC.
    For shooting indoors, outdoors - on cloudy days, at dusk, in any low-light conditions.
    CUSTOM 2 (aka C2)
    Designed for shooting in any environment, in Classic Chrome film format. Settings allow you to not just simulate a film, but to get colors very close to the famous Kodak chrome film.
    CUSTOM 3 (aka C3)
    Designed for shooting portraits in natural and artificial home (not studio!) Lighting. Avoids the pigmented pinkness of facial skin characteristic of the Provia profile (STD).
    CUSTOM 4 (Monochrome) C4
    Designed for shooting black and white photos in any environment.
    CUSTOM 5 (aka C5)
    Designed for shooting night photos (namely night ones, this is the main hobby of the profile!) And portraits in studio lighting conditions.
    CUSTOM 6 (aka C6)
    Designed for shooting vivid scenes - landscapes, sunrises, sunsets, flowers, bright colorful architecture, etc.
    CUSTOM 7 (C7)
    Designed for shooting any story on the street on a sunny day in summer or winter.

    • Lynx

      funny plate, in some ways coincides with my user profiles.

  • zengarden

    I will express my impressions and comments / additions to the text.

    The firmware was recently updated to version 1.20. Officially - support for new lenses and the elimination of some OVI glitches, but it seems that something was tweaked in focusing; although visually it is quite comparable in speed with my D7000, but in terms of accuracy it is certainly not inferior.

    I really like manual focusing with image splitting (imitation of Doden's wedges), how did I wait for this :) for a try to find a good focusing screen on Nikon, and they are expensive too (KatzEye stopped releasing).

    Insufficient grip can be cured with a specially trained handle; among the Ketays, they are inexpensive - up to one and a half thousand rubles. Already ordered and on the way. There is no battery pack for the X-T1, and there is nowhere to connect it - there is no connector.
    Well, or a home-made grip, as you have :) made of valuable wood / plastic.

    By buttons: after all, they are not very well located here; when you take the camera with your right hand, you must press the buttons on the back panel ... it seems that the hand is small, but somehow there is not enough space. This is a minus. The Olympuses will be more comfortable.
    And the power lever turns too easily randomly; once so, the camera under the jacket blabbed on for a long time ... well, oh well, she knows how to fall asleep with any short inactivity, almost like me ... But the presence of two programmable wheels is gorgeous!

    “Permanent, non-shutting off, tracking autofocus” - is that why? You can turn it off, it is only needed for serial shooting and video.

    By the way, it is the switching of the OVI / display that consumes energy a lot (when you bring the camera away from your face), so it is advisable to decide here - either this way or that way. Fortunately, the mode switches quickly.
    And waking the camera from sleep mode is also energy intensive; it’s better not to be lazy and turn off the camera when you finish shooting; It turns on very quickly.

    I have a budget lens 16-50 / 3,5-5,6 II. Dark, yes, but quite high quality; To call him “whale” does not turn his tongue. I’m looking at the new 35/2, but he still can’t afford it ... there is nothing to say about the rest.
    So while I’m waiting for adapters for M42 / M29 / Nikon F, I already have enough of this :)

    About the ravs - it seems like they just released a normal add-on for lightroom, which supposedly works correctly with data from fuji matrices. There are other converters and softwares, but, in any case, the in-camera works better and more correctly. Therefore, I have scored on the raves for now, because this is one of the reasons for switching to fuji - a good chamber zhpeg. I shoot for myself, in an amateur way, like a goof :)

    I have no flash. You can connect the usual one in manual mode, of course. But then I think to dig in and buy a Nissin-40i if I see it on sale (until you find a fig). This is not enough for indoor shooting, the on-camera is just for show. And I got used to Nikon's SB-700 ...
    The new, recently announced outbreak of Fuji has descriptions, look. It is cool in terms of features and price (!).

    Remote work with the camera from the tablet - I liked it, it is convenient, you can control the main modes and shoot from a distance :) I have not encountered this before, but here the old tablet came in handy.

    Otherwise, I agree with the author of the review. And the selection criterion is the same :) first I looked at the Olympus OM-D E-M10 (with a sign system, there is an old Pen PL3), but I could only dream about Fuji (seeing the X-T1, I fell in love with it); but then the E-M10 MarkII came out, and at the price it was similar to the X-T10 whale, and then the ruble falls into the abyss, so while there were still the old "recommended" prices, I borrowed money and bought the last camera in our city :)

    All successful shots and creative Uzbeks!

    • Lynx

      good.

    • Lynx

      Oh yes. 18/2 CAN still be caught in some cities in M-video. He is still there at the old price - 18 thousand. In our city, a couple remained, and somewhere else in Russia.

      • zengarden

        We no longer have, alas. And in the secondary market, if anything appears, then at store prices.

        • Lynx

          rummage through shopping in those cities where you have friends.
          They sent me a carcass from Moscow - it was almost the only black one within a radius of 1500 km. ))

      • Trekhsotkovich

        And I settled on only two lenses from the fuji. Took Fujinon XF 14mm f2.8 and Fujinon XF 35mm f1.4. Together, these 2 glasses can do anything! Landscapes, reports, macro at 14mm are not bad, and portraits at 35ku are generally excellent.

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