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  1. Felix
    30.12.2015

    Viewing angle: ~ 45 degrees. How is this possible with 75mm EGF?

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    • Rodion
      30.12.2015

      Cant. I forgot that he does not cover the APS.

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  2. Felix
    30.12.2015

    Probably a good lens. I have from the late Minolta MD 50 1.4. 1.4 more working than this, 2.0 you can already shoot landscapes .. Example on open 1.4.

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  3. Felix
    30.12.2015

    Minolta 2.0

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  4. anonym
    30.12.2015

    Well why should I consider this lens (MC Zenitar 1.2 / 50s)
    "Wonderful"? Bokeh with a garland is just awful. And portraits? What do they reveal? Helios 44 for 500 rubles will shoot better. Am I wrong?

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      I drew on my experience with Takumar 50 / 1.4. So this lens suits me much better on the crop. It is sharper, gives a pleasant-looking picture, acceptable sharpness when open (it's a pity that it is difficult to get into focus - which also affected the pictures), good colors and contrast. Optically, I really liked this zenith.
      I would love to use it on the FF, if there was such a camera, in crop mode.
      PS Regarding the bokeh ... Oh, take the Planar 50 / 1.4 - it will give the same) And there was also some lens with such a feature in the form of cutting off the edge of the circle.

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      • Felix
        31.12.2015

        I noticed, by the way, the scourge of cropped canons, they cut a circle of bokeh on holes larger than 1.6-1.7. At 1.4, it cuts the circle of both 10d and 1000d. In terms of light, the 1.4 lens is about 1.6. You can see the cropping of the circle on the garlands too, so you can not rejoice at aperture 1.2;)

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      • Rodion
        31.12.2015

        1. Trimming depends on the bore of the shaft and the size of the rear lens
        2. Cropping the circle does not affect the aperture - when reworking 92/2 with the I23U aperture, it also began to partially screen the edges of the rear lens, but the shutter speeds remained equal to the shutter speeds for F / 2
        3. Cropped circle means only the presence of light vignetting from the mine.

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      • Felix
        31.12.2015

        There is such a thing as an exit pupil, and so for all fifty dollars of all systems of the same aperture, the size of the exit pupil will be approximately the same. 92 on f2 the lens is projective, and non-narrow, so when the pupil goes down to a value identical to Jupiter 9, for example, the lens aperture will not fall.

        At 1.4, not only the shaft interferes with the lens, but also the thickness of the raised mirror.

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      • Felix
        02.01.2016

        And what good is this? Aperture falls all smoothly. There are no miracles. If you don’t believe me that it’s falling, shoot on a mirrorless mirror on the same parameters, be surprised.

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      • Rodion
        02.01.2016

        Never mind. Nobody really cares about it. The number is standing - everyone is happy.
        Such a disease in very, very many lenses with large apertures. And do not go anywhere.

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  5. Arkady Shapoval
    30.12.2015

    Croaked fifty dollars? it is good that nikon and kenon did not think of it :)

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    • Maugli
      31.12.2015

      If I'm not mistaken, SONY also has a sprinkled fifty dollars on the E-mount 1,8 with a stabilizer.

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    • Lynx
      31.12.2015

      but the fujiki and the olympics figured it out ...
      that is fit.

      Focal length, eq. 35 mm 50 mm
      Aperture blades, type 7-blade circular aperture for natural blurring of the background
      Minimum focusing distance 0,25 m
      Optical design 9 elements in 7 groups
      Aspherical Elements 2
      Super HR element 1
      Dimensions 57,8 mm * 42,0 mm
      The diameter of the thread of the filter 46 mm

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      • BB
        31.12.2015

        So this is not fifty dollars.

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      • Lynx
        31.12.2015

        EGF 50 mm ...

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      • BB
        31.12.2015

        If so, then Nikon also has a DX of 35mm, ether = 52.
        It was about FR, because it was it is fifty dollars on the crop - it doesn't make much sense - it's no longer a station wagon, not yet a portrait photographer

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      • Lynx
        31.12.2015

        have sunk - they answer me with forcible phrases!
        O_o

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      • BB
        31.12.2015

        In the presence of fifty dollars, this thought comes by itself))

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      • Rodion
        31.12.2015

        In principle, this Zenitar can be considered as an adequate replacement for the 85 / 1.8 crop. The depth of field will be approximately the same, and the EFR is essentially the same. So - as a portrait, he can do nothing. And for premises, it is still convenient, albeit narrow.

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  6. Artyom
    30.12.2015

    I wouldn’t take it! What is the point of taking it if it is not autofocus, okay manual, but for the money!
    The same goes for the 40s Zhmeliusov

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      It hardly costs its money, but I didn't have to buy it. I only evaluated the optics as they are. The photo is still tight - I haven't taken pictures of them yet. Plus, getting into focus is very difficult for them. Even here, there are misses in focus portraits.

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  7. anonym
    30.12.2015

    Either the focus didn’t hit the portraits a little, or should I squeeze the aperture, or am I quibbling, but something went really bad?

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    • Simon
      30.12.2015

      No, no, it doesn't seem to you ... typical small or soft sharpness appears here, in other ways, like in helios ... there is no ringing there, as they say ... because so ... Having turned the Helios all sorts of pieces, there were 6 and Jupiter 37 I no longer want to buy them in any version ... Only JAPAN or FRITZ

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      I didn’t get into focus, unfortunately.

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  8. Andrey
    30.12.2015

    I don’t understand at all why everyone admires these new helios, zeniths…. The image is cloudy, the blur zone, that is, “boke”…. Well, like a blur in Photoshop, I don't see any drawing there, there are no rounds, blurry spots. what is the beauty of a swirling background? I still don't understand either. you can see this for an amateur, now there are many modern QUALITY lenses, especially for such a price. as for me wasted money. sorry if offended any of the owners of this miracle

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    • Simon
      30.12.2015

      I think they decided to take the high-power audience ... because so ... all the fuckers want a hole f1: 1

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      • Andrey
        30.12.2015

        yes, a hole + metal case! so that our children would also use this "g"

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      • Andrey
        30.12.2015

        Sorry, there is hard plastic :) still, children may not reach it.

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    • Anonymous 1
      31.12.2015

      You are right and at the same time wrong ... If we proceed from the fact that optical designers developed and experimentally produced by the factory workers, Soviet optics is quite good and even competitive with foreign ones. But ... the love boat crashed against everyday life ... The production was so unstable that two lenses from the same batch showed different results! As at the beginning of the 20th century! Hundreds of pieces - so-so or just junk, and a couple of very decent products, close to the idea of ​​the designers. And also the production costs, when the additional, for example, operation of blackening the diaphragm blades prevented the overfulfillment of the plan and the receipt of the ministerial prize. Lenses are consumer goods, something like socks or buckets. Buying any device is always a lottery. Lucky or unlucky ... If you agree to risk a certain amount, you may get lucky with a very good Soviet lens. Or not. How the card will fall.

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  9. Yuliya
    30.12.2015

    Thanks for the review! You can photo the branches by email, for a personal desktop. Holiday greetings!

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      31.12.2015

      There are

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  10. B.R.P.
    31.12.2015

    Yes, sir, apparently they didn't stretch 1,2 to the full frame ...

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  11. Igor
    31.12.2015

    This 600-gram piece of plastic with glass (you can't call it a lens) really costs $ 300 and is sold nowadays? And does someone buy it? The sharpness in the portraits is weak, the bokeh is also not very ... There are no censorship words about this product.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      I repeat once again: in portraits, a focus error is possible. See snapshots of static objects.
      And bokeh is subjective.

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  12. Noa
    31.12.2015

    I'll put in my own five kopecks ...
    Vtselov, the lens is interesting for its luminosity and…. perhaps all. In Helios-40, at least the twisted bokeh is interesting (the girls like it, which means the photo will be sold))) Here, though not rough, but boring bokeh. Sharpness at 1,2 for portraits where you need a large grip will still not be. I think the lens is a little pointless, but thanks a lot to the author for the review, it was very interesting)
    Happy New Year!

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      Thank you, too, with the upcoming)
      I got the lens as a prize, because it is meaningless or not meaningless ... They can shoot)

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  13. Maugli
    31.12.2015

    This lens has a strong competitor in the face of Nikon 50 / 1,2. With an adapter, he gets up on Canon. Price used comparable to the price of Zenithar.

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  14. Maugli
    31.12.2015

    And thank you very much, Rodion, for the work done!

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  15. Lynx
    31.12.2015

    decent review.
    Although examples of shooting, especially with a normal balance, unfortunately not enough.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      This is a matter of time)

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    • anonym
      31.12.2015

      The phrase “portrait-night” hurt, and the “highlight” with a glare just finished off the young man.

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      • Lynx
        31.12.2015

        Here you nefig zhsya do, 5 minutes after midnight to post!

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  16. Alexey
    31.12.2015

    If you believe the official website of KMZ, then this lens has the following tech. specifications:
    Focal Length: 50 mm (51,54 mm)
    Relative Hole: 1: 1,2
    Field of view: 32 °
    Linear Image Field: 30mm

    Number of lenses / groups: 8/6
    Number of Aspherical Surfaces: 2
    Working distance: 44 mm
    Back focal length: 39,13 mm
    Distance from first to last surface: 119,4 mm

    Aperture Drive: Manual
    Aperture scale limits: 1: 1,2–1: 16
    Number of aperture blades: 9

    Focus: Manual
    Closest focusing range: 0,45 m

    Enlightenment Type: Multi-Layer

    Connections:
    lens with camera - C mount (geometrically corresponds to EF mount)
    for screw-in nozzles - M58 × 0,75
    for put on nozzles - ∅60 mm
    Working distance: 44 mm
    Camera Connection: None

    Weight: 0,63 kg
    Year of development: 2012

    http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/lenses/zenitar-1-2-50.html

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      This is a prototype, not a serial model. This lens does not have aspherical elements.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      This version was yours, which is by reference. She was shown at the exhibition. And not serially produced.
      The review presents a serial sample, Zenitar 50 / 1.2s, where “s” means that all surfaces are spherical. In short, I recommend not to confuse people here and to study the material more carefully.

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      • Alexey
        31.12.2015

        Rodiion, apparently you did not carefully read the material from the link. There are TTX of 3 variations Zenitar 50 / 1.2: -C; -S and without prefixes.

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      • Rodion
        31.12.2015

        you brought only aspherical here)

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      • Alexey
        01.01.2016

        Data specific to Zenitar-C 1,2 / 50

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      • Alexey
        01.01.2016

        Here the author introduces confusion: the cap includes Zenitar-C 1,2 / 50, and the text Zenitar 1,2 / 50 S, and these are different lenses.

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      • Rodion
        01.01.2016

        I don't have any confusion. On the nameplate at the front lens - Zenitar-S. On the focus ring - 50 / 1.2s. Everything is clear, everything is clear. What's wrong?

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  17. anonym
    31.12.2015

    Something you have everything pokotsano -and the filter, and a bayonet mount + laying out unsharp portraits indicates a frivolous view.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      The filter is not pokotsan, but modernized so that the lid is kept native. Sly she.
      The bayonet is artificially blackened, I wrote this in a review.
      Unsharp portraits will only remind you that it is not easy to shoot with such optics.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      I have already written many times that I am simply not used to the lens yet - it is difficult to take photographs, always getting into focus. If there are good photos - with the help of Arkady I will upload them here.
      In general, the rest of the photos are fine enough to appreciate this controversial (but not bad at all) lens.

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  18. anonym
    31.12.2015

    If he is experienced, the more it is not necessary to draw hasty conclusions about his remarkableness.

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    • Rodion
      31.12.2015

      In the review of the production sample, read normally.

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  19. Vlad
    31.12.2015

    Arkady HAPPY NEW YEAR !! I wish you a lot of creativity

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  20. Alexey
    01.01.2016

    Question to the author: please clarify the model, in the header is Zenitar-C 1,2 / 50, and according to the text Zenitar 1,2 / 50 S.

    According to the information on the site
    KMZhttp: //www.zenitcamera.com/archive/lenses/zenitar-1-2-50.html are different lenses.

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    • Rodion
      01.01.2016

      Diluted the confusion. In the review Zenitar-C 50 / 1.2s. C is from Canon, s is spherical.

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    • Rodion
      01.01.2016

      It was necessary to get so attached to this S-ke lost, when it is also in all signatures in the photo of the lens.

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  21. Zmitser
    04.01.2016

    Why was it necessary to send muddy photos for review? Apparently, what would heroically fight back in kamenty?

    The boke of this lens is semolina. There is no zest.

    IMHO, if it really costs 300 evergreens, then this is a tryndets

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    • Rodion
      04.01.2016

      Then to supplement the review.
      PS Tastes Differ

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  22. Angry
    15.01.2016

    Ultra-fast interchangeable lens with aspherical glass lens surfaces for Canon DSLR cameras

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  23. ñ
    28.01.2016

    Wave-8 1,2 / 50 GOI, and also the original development of KMZ)

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  24. Ivan
    04.03.2016

    The other day I just stumbled upon this zenithar. I already re-read everything and yesterday I saw it in photo ru. Twisted. I need more for the video. But for the photo does not hurt :)
    I liked the construct. A lot of metal, "the thing is felt". One more thing with the diaphragm - it closes with intermediate stops (between 1.2 and 1.4 there is a stop, and so on between 1.4 and 2.0 2 stops. It is very convenient in fact. The focusing is smooth, the ring is comfortable and the weight does not really bother you. it's hard to run around the location with him. about shooting. 1.2 fully working. I was surprised myself. Yes, it is soft. If you can do it in Lr at a time. I focused both on Lv and through the viewfinder 7d. I will say that through the viewfinder it turned out quite even Just read the reviews that only in Lv and only 10x magnification. If you also put the focusing screen, it will be a fairy tale. Yes, there is HA. But show me something fast without them ... this is the norm. Moreover, they correct with one click in the editor. And by the way, they are better on the open than on my samyang 85 1.4 (that chromatite is decent) Oh yes, I was looking for the unfortunate glare on the open, especially on the back one, I looked at the lights, everything is less tolerant. But these are the conditions of the store, so who knows. (What if they fixed this case ?! and yes, the contrast is good. Again, the blackening can be corrected)
    Oh yes, he also twisted the G-40 updated under the canon. What can I say, at 1.5 it is softer, even softer than the zenith at 1.2. Not for crop, he’s all right, maybe it opens on FF, but on 7d he was not impressed, unlike the zenith.
    Total - I liked the glass. On the crop - the very thing. Sharpness is good, constructive, canon tail. In general, I am pleasantly surprised.

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    • Lynx
      04.05.2016

      Senks for the detailed opinion.

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  25. Ivan
    04.03.2016

    The other day I just stumbled upon this zenithar. I already re-read everything and yesterday I saw it in photo ru. Twisted. I need more for the video. But for the photo does not hurt :)
    I liked the construct. A lot of metal, "the thing is felt". One more thing with the diaphragm - it closes with intermediate stops (between 1.2 and 1.4 there is a stop, and so on between 1.4 and 2.0 2 stops. It is very convenient in fact. The focusing is smooth, the ring is comfortable and the weight does not really bother you. it's hard to run around the location with him. about shooting. 1.2 fully working. I was surprised myself. Yes, it is soft. If you can do it in Lr at a time. I focused both on Lv and through the viewfinder 7d. I will say that through the viewfinder it turned out quite even Just read the reviews that only in Lv and only 10x magnification. If you also put the focusing screen, it will be a fairy tale. Yes, there is HA. But show me something fast without them ... this is the norm. Moreover, they correct with one click in the editor. And by the way, they are better on the open than on my samyang 85 1.4 (that chromatite is decent) Oh yes, I was looking for the unfortunate glare on the open, especially on the back one, I looked at the lights, everything is less tolerant. But these are the conditions of the store, so who knows. (What if they fixed this case ?! and yes, the contrast is good. Again, the blackening can be corrected)
    Oh yes, he also twisted the G-40 updated under the canon. What can I say, at 1.5 it is softer, even softer than the zenith at 1.2. Not for crop, he’s all right, maybe it opens on FF, but on 7d he was not impressed, unlike the zenith.
    Total - I liked the glass. On the crop - the very thing. Sharpness is good, constructive, canon tail. In general, I am pleasantly surprised.

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