Confrontation systems Nikon / Canon. Part 1. Discrete portraiture.

In this article I want to touch on the very difficult, almost unbearable, full of contradictions and subtleties topic of choice between Nikon System and Canon System... This part of the 'confrontations' will only touch on the topic relatives discrete (i.e., fixed) autofocus lenses that are suitable, or may be suitable for portrait shooting.

Confrontation systems Nikon / Canon. Part 1. Discrete portraiture.

Confrontation systems Nikon / Canon. Part 1. Discrete portraiture. This picture was shot neither on Nikon nor on Kenon.

What is written here is nothing more than my personal, subjective vision of this issue. I used to joke about the fact that Nikon and Canon they only do that they copy names and pathos for their trinkets products. But, making reviews of various photographic equipment, working as a photographer and talking with my colleagues, I have accumulated a lot of notes about the main issue of Life, the Universe and Everything Else: Nikon or Canon? In addition, recently I have been tormented by the issue of acquiring the highest quality lens for personal use, which was the starting point in the creation of this article.

In this article, I mean by portrait fixed lenses only lenses with a fixed focal length from 85 to 200 mm, designed to work with full-format cameras and having automatic focus. These lenses were originally designed to work with the Nikon FX central lens (full-format Nikon cameras) and the Canon central lens with an EF mount. and where a half ?? But what about your favorite half dread !!!!!!!

Nikon can conditionally distinguish only 18 lens models that fit my criteria:

Lens Exit time Today's prices
Nikon Nikkor Z 85mm 1: 1.8 S July 2019 View->
Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor December 1987 Outdated
Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor March 1994 Outdated
Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8G AF-S Nikkor January 2012 View->
Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4D AF Nikkor November 1995 Outdated
Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4GN AF-S Nikkor August 2010 View->
Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8 AF Micro Nikkor June 1990 Outdated
Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8D AF Micro Nikkor October 1993 Outdated
Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR February 2006 View->
Nikon 105mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor September 1993 Outdated
Nikon 105mm 1: 1.4EN AF-S Nikkor ED July 2016 View->
Nikon 135mm 1: 2 AF DC-Nikkor October 1990 Outdated
Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor November 1995 Outdated
Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKI) September 1986 Outdated
Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKII) January 1987 Outdated
Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor (MKIII) November 1987 Outdated
Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor (MKIV) December 1994 Outdated
Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor (MKI) June 2004 Outdated
Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII N ED AF-S Nikkor (MKII) September 2010 View->
Nikon 200mm 1: 4D ED AF Micro Nikkor October 1993 Outdated

Also, a brief description of these models can be found in my article on choosing a portrait lens for the Nikon system.

Canon has a little less models - 15 pieces:

Lens Exit time Today's prices
Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM July 1992 View->
Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM September 1989  Outdated
Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L II USM March 2006 View->
Canon lens RF 85mm F1.2L USM May 2019 View->
Canon lens RF 85mm F1.2L USM DS (DEFOCUS SMOOTHING) October 2019 View->
Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.4 L IS USM August 2017 View->
Canon lens RF 85mm F2 MACRO IS STM July 2020 View->
Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 April 1990  Outdated
Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 USM March 2000  Outdated
Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM October 2009  View->
Canon LENS EF 100mm 1: 2 USM October 1991  View->
Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus October 1987  Outdated
Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM April 1996  View->
Canon MACRO LENS EF 180mm 1: 3.5 L USM April 1996  Outdated
Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L USM December 1991  Outdated
Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM March 1996 View->
Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2 L IS USM April 2008 View->
Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM November 1988  Outdated

Let it not bother anyone that Nikon has a bit more models. At times, Nikon updated its range of lenses adding only a very minor improvement to the previous version. So, the following groups of lenses have the same optical design and in all other respects do not have cardinal differences:

  • Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor и Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor
  • Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8 AF Micro Nikkor и Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8D AF Micro Nikkor
  • Nikon 135mm 1: 2 AF DC-Nikkor и Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor
  • Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED AF Nikkor MKI and MKII, MKIII, 'D' MKIV
  • Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor MKI и Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII N ED AF-S Nikkor MKII

Canon is also updating its lineup and the following lens groups have the same optical design:

  • Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM и Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L ii USM
  • Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L USM и Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L ii USM

As a result, Nikon has 11 different models, and Canon has 10. Nikon and Canon go head to head in terms of the variety of lenses.

In the sign the meaning 'Outdated'means this lens cannot be purchased new. Clever guys who write about used in the comments. options for photographic equipment do not take into account that a guarantee and warranty service is important for a professional.

About macro lenses

If you try to use a macro lens for portrait photography, in real life for this task only Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR or Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM is taken. Both lenses are by and large very good and here the forces of the systems are approximately equal. All other macro lenses indicated in the tables, due to their specific features and lack of stabilizer, are not of particular interest for portraiture. Anyway, choosing a good portrait lens on a number of macro lenses, I would advise you to pay your last attention, and here's why:

  1. Macro lenses have less aperturethan comparable focal length 'classic' lenses.
  2. Macro lenses are 'sharpened' primarily for shooting small objects, work in the classic range of focusing distances is rather a secondary function. Ultimately, macro lenses have very slow focus ring travel at the distances at which people are captured. The small pitch of the focusing ring is damn awkward when focusing manually and causes more focusing errors when focusing automatically.

My little summary on macro lenses: Nikon and Canon each have one serious player, who can act both as a macro lens and as a portrait lens. We can say that here Nikon and Canon hold parity. The functioning and capabilities of other macro lenses should be of interest only to photographers who purposefully shoot macro.

About 85mm and Nikon system issues

In the amateur segment, I would call Nikon 85mm 85: 1G AF-S Nikkor and Canon LENS EF 1.8mm 85: 1 USM the direct competitors of the 1.8-current.

It should be noted that in the fall of 2006 a camera was released Nikon D40, it has been cut for compatibility with 'AF' type lenses and required the use of 'AF-S'. In the label, such lenses are highlighted in green.. But the trouble is, from the list of compatible lenses there was only the large and heavy Nikon 200mm 1: 2G ED AF-S Nikkor, which owners of the unpretentious could hardly afford Nikon D40, and 'makrushnik' - Nikon 105mm 1: 2.8GN AF-S Micro Nikkor ED VR. The classic portrait lens, which could be used on amateur cameras, had to wait another 3 years (an eternity in the era of new technologies). With this camera, the serious trouble with the compatibility of Nikon lenses with amateur cameras began. You can imagine that you go, buy your own cute 'Nikkor', put it on your amateur camera, and he does not want to focus on it! And a whole horde of such cameras was released: D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D3200, D3300, D5000, D5100, D5200, D5300, D5400WTF?, D5500... And I'm already silent about 'Nikon 1' mirrorless cameras, which are not compatible with lenses like 'AF'.

What do I personally care about amateur cameras? We are talking about serious matters - portrait lenses! But the point here is this - in due time Nikon D40 I had a spare camera for the D200 / D90, and it's damn inconvenient to have defective system, which does not fully support their own native lenses. FROM Nikon D40 I could not fully use my favorite and inexpensive Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8D AF Nikkor. Moreover, such lenses cannot just be given to a friend / acquaintance who has an amateur camera. There are a great many such examples. I guess it was with this lens that I had a suspicion that Nikon had blundered somewhere.

If we take the Canon system, then there is full compatibility (except for very rare cases) of lenses with Canon EF mount and cameras with Canon EF / EF-S mount. Even if we take the oldest lens from the list presented by me - Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, 1987, then it will work on any Canon CZK.

At the same time, the Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM has been available since July 1992, and the Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8G AF-S Nikkor since January 2012. Canon's built-in noiseless focus motor introduced 20 (twenty!) years earlierthan Nikon. However, it is worth noting that Nikon has been making 85s since December 1987 (Nikon 85mm 1: 1.8 AF Nikkor). As a result, Nikon had an affordable 5 / 85 for 1.8 years, while Canon did not. But, in general, in the budget 85-current segment, Canon beats one of its successful Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.8 USM against three Nikon 85 / 1.8.

As for the TOP 85-current, here the Canon system wins. The Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.2 L USM was released back in September 1989, six years before the legendary Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4D AF Nikkor. At the same time, the Canon equivalent has a larger geometric hole and a USM motor. The appearance of the motorized Nikon 85mm 1: 1.4GN AF-S Nikkor had to wait another 5 years (a total of 11 years since the release of the TOP 85tki from Canon). The difference between F / 1.2 and F / 1.4 is one-third of the stop, and at least stand still, Nikon does not have such F numbers for portrait shooting in full frame!

Canon was also the first to release the 85 / 1.4 lens with stabilizer -  Canon LENS EF 85mm 1: 1.4 L IS USM

Summary of TOP 85. In the TOP segment, the 85-current Canon system wins.

Even if we discard the lack of full compatibility of Nikon lenses with the younger line of SLR cameras, then the lack of a built-in focusing motor in the lens imposes some more limitations. The focus motor really sounds very loud during focusing, there is no direct access to the focus ring (Nikon M / A or Canon FTM modes), there is a more complicated method for switching between manual and automatic focus mode, etc.!

To be precise, all Nikon lenses with a built-in focus motor use SWM motors, which are quite quiet. Canon lenses are all equipped with a built-in focusing motor, usually quiet USM or STM motors, but there are also old lenses with the usual noisy micro-motor. These lenses include only Canon MACRO LENS EF 100mm 1: 2.8 and Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, marked in yellow (such lenses do not have the prefix 'USM' or 'Ultrasonic' or 'STM' in their name).

If you shoot certain stories in a row on the rumbling Nikon mastodons, such as Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor MKIV, and then shoot the same thing on the quiet Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM, then the superiority in working with Canon optics will be on the face. I’ve been feeling very strongly lately defective Nikon lenses without a focus motorWhen working with them, sometimes one gets the feeling that one has a prehistoric technique in one's hands. This article is not paid for, believe me, I just had / have the opportunity to touch various 'pieces of glass' in real conditions. The absence of a focusing motor theoretically only reduces the cost of making a lens and simplifies its repair, but if there is nothing to cover, you can always write about an abstract 'drawing' of lenses of this or that system :).

100mm / 105mm

Nikon and Canon each have several 'portrait hundredths' - Canon LENS EF 100mm 1: 2 USM (October 1991), Nikon 105mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor (September 1993) + Nikon AF-S Nikkor 105mm 1: 1.4E ED N (2016). The lens from Canon is very attractive for its low price. Nikon's first lens to feature 'Defocus Control' i.e. 'Out of focus control'. The second lens from Nikon has a huge f / 1.4 aperture. Due to the unique technology of 'DC' and F/1.4@105mm, it is impossible to compare lenses directly, but if we weigh the pros and cons, I would stick with Nikon's lenses. Nikon DC is a topic for a separate Olympiad, it has certain difficulties in setting up and using it. All in all, the Nikon system theoretically shows more advantages here.

135mm

Probably one of the main questions is the choice of the 135th. This is one of the most sought after open air portrait lenses. Nikon has the unconquered Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor (November 1995), Canon has the Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM (April 1996). If you recall the story that Nikon has been making its 135/2 since 1990 (the first Non-D version), and Canon had to wait another six years before the 135 F / 2.0 came out. Again, due to the unique 'DC' technology, lenses cannot be compared directly. But I really want to, because I'm looking for the best tailor! As a result, I am much more attracted to the Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM, because it is 'performance without unnecessary problems'.

Based on my needs, I personally have two serious complaints about Nikon - the lack of a model update Nikon D700 and updates to the Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor portrait lens. 'DC' is good, but the lens itself is outdated.

Also, Canon has an unusual 135mm - Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus with a 'soft focus' system (this is not at all like Nikon DC). As a result, if you look at both systems, Canon has one very productive Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM and one creative Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2.8 Softfocus, while Nikon has only one super-creative Nikon 135mm 1: 2D AF DC-Nikkor. It is for the sake of Canon LENS EF 135mm 1: 2 L USM that many photographers are willing to choose Canon instead of Nikon. Canon's system in the choice of 135 is preferable.

180mm

The choice between Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor MKIV and Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2.8 L II USM is also obvious to me. I suffered a lot with slow focusing, an absolutely stupid focus mode switch and rather big noise of my own Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8D ED AF Nikkor. The Kenon lens is much more tech than the Nikon. Among the lenses of the class 180-200 / 2.8, Canon clearly leads.

200mm

As for super-class 200 / 2.0 lenses, here too Canon can boast of the existence of the unique Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM. Nikon did not have a 200 / 1.8 class lens. But Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 1.8 L USM is outdated and the main competition now has to go between Nikon 200mm 1: 2GII N ED AF-S Nikkor and Canon LENS EF 200mm 1: 2 L IS USM. These are very specific lenses, it is difficult to say which one is better. But if we consider system selection issue, I would be flattered that in 1988 Canon created its 200 / 1.8, and Nikon slowed down for another 16 years!

Experienced photographer chooses not Nikon or Canon, but a system for comfortable operation... And the earlier this or that new technology was introduced, the more feedback it will receive and the better the new updated or modified model will work. Therefore, I am quite seriously attached to the release date of this or that lens.

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Portrait photography is one of the most popular in the world. Having a good portrait photographer is vital. I still think that it doesn't matter what you shoot. Without the work of a photographer, all these expensive lenses are nothing more than pieces of glass and metal, soulless, gray, unable to create anything on their own. And if someone decided to acquire a high-aperture fixture for porter shooting, then in general the Canon system can offer more 'functional' options than Nikon.

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  • Andrei

    Cool! I didn’t take part in the fight on time, but now I’ve read it to the end and I want to contribute my share of blah blah. I shoot with Nikon. After reading such "battles" and the opinions of "specialists" about systems, I was thinking of changing to Canon. It was that it was difficult to sell all the accumulated lenses for normal money. I left this venture. Recently I took a new Mark 3 from a friend, try to touch it. At a meeting with a client, he asked what I was shooting for, I blurted out that on Canon with a full matrix, the client was satisfied. When he gave them the wedding, the newly-minted husband (client) said to his wife meaningfully: "You see, I said that Canon's colors are better." The whole shooting was, of course, on my equipment, i.e. Nikon, he practically did not touch the photo from the walk through the flowers, everything turned out well. What am I leading all this "bazaar" to: a fairy tale about a commercial skin tone was created by the users of technology, because in the overwhelming majority of cases, people do not like skinton, but good photos, even if they have been superimposed with a bunch of toning, grain, dodge-and-burns and all that we call “creative processing”. People look at pictures on monitors and TV screens, which have such nonsense with color that they are scared for their work. We are trying to get a better monitor, and even calibrate it. "Normal" people don't care about skin tone, the photos should LIKE. And where absolutely accurate color reproduction is needed, either a wider format is used, or D3-4 and 1D, which have everything in order with the colors. And what is commerce if not weddings, reports, sessions, etc.? As for optics, I completely agree with Arkady, but he came to such conclusions in a very long and difficult way, having tried a bunch of glasses and cameras. Most photographers, including professionals, do not and will not have such an opportunity, so most of us will not be able to feel the difference between systems, and even more so with lenses of different systems. In a dispute, truth is born, but the dispute between Nikon and Canon is eternal, because there is no truth in it, none of this will be born :-) If someone reads my opus and agrees with something, thank him for that. Many thanks to Arkady for the site in general and for the optics reviews in particular!

  • Hedgehog

    Srach divorced…. There will come a time when you will change carcasses every year or six months, remembering with kind words your old 700s and dimes (not stamps!), Mark my words. will come. today only talked with one person, he takes off Nikon 750koy, bought a new one. Mileage is already 70 thousand and he says the shutter lag is already palpable. he removes the birds after 700k. Today, that Nikon, that Kenon, make carcasses so that you ditch them at the most banal reportage or wedding and in a year buy something fresh. The time has passed when the carcasses were made for years, yes, let them be slowed down by today's marketing standards, they have a narrow range of ISOs, few pixels .. Only who needs it, who doesn’t stupidly press a button and changes modes together with lenses, and carefully builds a frame , sets the light, tries to make a holiday out of the ordinary. I’m not talking about reporters, these are wolves, the faster they’re betraying the photo (for this they do Wi-Fi and access the Internet on cameras), and get loot for it. I’m talking about creative people, and photo is creative work, like music, as artists, as writers. And let’s not make market art out of creativity. There are minuses for both those comforts and in the last carcasses, in addition to their survivability, there is another drawback that they are quickly trying to keep silent about is the abnormal sharpness of the photo on the camera’s screen. That 3 mark, that 8 ** series - they all have a NON-SWITCHABLE sharpening function. That is, frankly, we shoot a portrait, focus on the cilia, on the camera monitor the whole image is sharp !! On the computer monitor, the house is opan, the difference is heaven and earth. And if you have optics or a carcass, there’s no time to make adjustments, let’s say shooting tomorrow, and you crawled home without legs? And what ?? How to fine-tune the focus exactly with the camera, if the image on the monitor is sharp everywhere ?? By poking, throwing off samples on a computer? This time will not take an hour or two, but in the morning to cut to the shooting. And when taking the good old Piglet, or 700ku, in the lessons, after home, making an equal, I don’t yell that one is better than the other or they are both worthless. no! On duty, I have to shoot on different cameras, both top-end and mid-budget, and there is something to compare with. Modern junk is so poorly made that it grows up and grows up to the old carcasses punched by time. And let them be crammed with high ISO up to 80 thousand units, of which only 3200-6400 are real workers, in rare cases 12800 and then with an eye on the priority of one factor. where else can you find such matrices that give out a three-dimensional picture, except in 700 cards and dimes :? only in older models, which, incidentally, are also not released in the 14-15 year! And they still live, yes, many have already changed the shutters, someone changed the matrix in view of scratches or something else. But they keep shooting! And what will happen to your 800-750, stamps 3, seeds and sixes in 5-6 years? Nobody will need them, because the image from them is a commercial flat picture, animated only by the presence of light / shadow and detail, which, except in the subject, is NOT NEEDED anywhere else! And often you have to hear and see the exclamations of other photo-docs, oh, what kind of carcasses is this? you call them whatoooo? And How?? are they still working? And what will happen to them if they don’t crack nuts and drive prostitutes away from the corners, but work. The camera cannot become outdated, just like the lens. it can only work out a resource in view of the failure of parts. Are there many masterpieces filmed with modern carcasses from 36-50 megapixels? and with the advent of photo editors, and new algorithms for recording equal pictures, and art goes into oblivion every year! now, instead of building a composition and light, all this can be corrected / removed in the editor, this is good, everyone has mistakes, but this is exactly what was called the great word PHOTOGRAPH ... Now every 2 on the street is a photographer, 80% of them they can't even adjust the settings in the camera normally. shoot on a car or relying on courses of the same mediocrity, who advise you to do everything looking at the testimony of the camera, and not on the test shot. I feel sorry for this road, in which there should be a gate, as in Paradise ... And I think many will agree with me, the trend of the markets is that there is no more sense in doing reliable things, these are losses.

    • Ruslan

      Hello from 2019!
      It has been said - neither subtract nor add. You are very much right, stranger.

  • Hedgehog

    and lastly, I’ll add, the world is GOING AWAY out of the mind, people’s values ​​and priorities in life are not the same as they were 2 years ago. Around money, money, fame, respect! And as a pig was a pig, give him at least a parliamentary mandate, even a yacht in the Mediterranean, he will remain a pig with his own character and habits. And as a man was a man, give him at least a little tramp, at least a Lexus wheel, at least an opportunity to rule the world, he will remain a man if he is a man, not a prostitute. You need to be calm about this all, shoot with whatever suits you, most importantly a good shot and the ability to convey the atmosphere. Remember the photo, years 18 ** shaggy. I held such photos in my hands, honestly by modern standards, photos are generally porridge, but they have such an atmosphere and soul that you find yourself partially there, in that reality.

    • Guest from Omsk

      Absolutely in the hole. Every word.
      I myself am in the world of photography, delitant. But I perfectly understand the essence of the statement, because a similar situation is now observed in all areas. I will not list, because everyone already knows.
      But about pigs and people, I support a thousand times.

    • Ruslan

      To the point.

  • Charles

    "Porter shooting" - test, man!

  • Linaendz

    Hello! Please tell me what is the reason I can not read the new added articles!?, When you click on the article, a window appears in which the error “404” :( this problem has been like a whole day ...

  • R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№

    My opinion about portraiture will be this (author, take note):
    135 / 2d nikon is a soapy misunderstanding
    135 / 2l very good sharp glass with a good design
    The 135 / 1.8 Sony Hare (eiss Sonnar T * 135mm f / 1.8 ZA) is the best lens of all time for portraits, it has the same sharpness as a kenon, but the drawing is a MASTER!
    135/2 hare (Zeiss Apo Sonnar T * 2/135) is the sharpest portrait glass in the world for any system, tears absolutely all the macros of all systems at all focal lengths, has a good purebred design, but manual.
    85 / 2.8dt Sony - plastic fix, has good sharpness and nice pattern, the best price / quality ratio
    85 / 1.4g nikon - the best nikon potter in general among all nikon glass, has a thoroughbred pattern
    85 / 1.8g nikon - the best price / quality ratio for nikon, it loses quite a bit in sharpness 1.4 and chromatite on the open
    85 / 1.8 kenon - soapy misunderstanding
    85 / 1.2 kenon both versions - a soapy misunderstanding, but for even more money.
    85 / 1.4 minolta (g, d, rs) - SHEDEVRATOR !, slightly loses in sharpness to the dormouse 1.4 (unfortunately not released for a long time)
    All of the above are either used, or felt, or played with mobs.
    At the expense of one hundred and two hundred I can not say anything - I did not use it. To Ravam I can only say that kenon macro frame, kenon 105 second version, nikon XNUMX macro - these are very, very worthy lenses.
    As a result: minolta and hares are head and shoulders above all the others - this is my immodest IMHO. If dormouse after 850 and 900 released at least something worthy, then she would have stayed on it with pleasure only for the sake of these glasses.

    • Peter Sh.

      “135 / 2d nikon is a soapy misunderstanding ...” - you don't need to read further.

      • Anton

        Well, in crooked hands it is. You need to be able to shoot with this glass.

    • Alexey

      Canon 85 1.8 - excellent glass, sharp open. HA is, but if you know how to shoot, they can be avoided. Perhaps the author had a defective copy.

  • Oleg

    ... just no money. You keep here, all the best, good mood and health to you. (C)

  • Peter Sh.

    I recently rented a Canon 5D mark iii and a Canon 5ds.

    Being a long-tempered nikonist, I approached this matter with great skepticism.

    In a nutshell ... these two words are simply not there.
    All in all, Kenon is definitely ahead, far ahead. There was a feeling that Nikon had advanced rheumatism with hemorrhoids. It became painful and insulting.

    I’m not talking about ergonomics, here the same eggs are only on the side. About Skinton, too, everyone knows everything for a long time.
    I was struck by two factors - the quality of processing of parts and halftones, and the overall height of the engineering component. Both the cameras themselves and the lenses.

    But. I won’t go to Kenon. The fact is that I’m shooting sports reports. And athletes always have flushed appearances (except with the exception of chess players). As a result, Nikon's gray-green, consuming skinton is compensated, and healthy tones come out with a slight blush and a slight tan, even on pale skin. So I always shoot in the usual Auto BB, without any settings, tweaks, cheats, etc.

    On Kenon, red shades are accented, and the result was terrible red faces, direct competitions of drunks. No matter how I tried or twisted the settings, I could not get rid of red spots on my faces.

    Such are the cases.

  • Imageget5

    , roller or spray gun. Before painting or whitewashing the ceiling, be sure to close the doors and windows so as not to stain them. Before wallpapering repair of walls in the house wisely and only in agreement with the city services, as breaking the load-bearing wall will lead to the destruction of the entire house. For major repairs you must not: Demolish

  • anonym

    ## of the main question of Life, the Universe and Everything Else: Nikon or Canon? ##
    Given that the kenikon crop mirrors are merged into the toilet, and the ff is intensively converted to the mirrorless segment, new space lenses are made for new kenikon mirrorless mounts, does it make sense to change the question to Sony or not Sony? Since Sony in the mirrorless segment sells as much as kenikon combined)))

    • Arkady Shapoval

      keyword "in the segment of DSLRs"

      • anonym

        ## In this article I want to touch on the very difficult, almost unbearable, full of contradictions and subtleties topic of choice between the Nikon SYSTEM and the Canon system. ##
        It seems like the systems are written ...

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Well, look at the date of the article :)

          • anonym

            So I'm talking about the same)))
            Time for a new article and a new confrontation

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