Canon EOS M Review

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Canon EOS M Review

Canon EOS M Review



An accurate list of all Canon EF-M lenses

Fix Lenses:

  1. Canon Lens EF-M 22 mm 1:2 STM
  2. Canon Lens EF-M 28 mm 1:3.5 Macro IS STM
  3. Canon Lens EF-M 32 mm 1:1.4 STM

Wide angle lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 11-22 mm 1: 4-5.6 IS STM

Universal Lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 15-45 mm 1: 3.5-6.3 IS STM
  2. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55 mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM
  3. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-150 mm 1: 3.5-6.3 IS STM

Telephoto Lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 55-200 mm 1: 4.5-6.3 IS STM

Important: using an adapter Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M any lens can be mounted Canon EF, Canon EF-S on cameras with EF-M mount.

+ autofocus lenses from third-party manufacturers:


Actually, the level of development of the system as a whole can be judged by the quantity and quality of accessories developed for this system, for example, lenses :). Other manufacturers began to create and market their mirrorless 'monsters' long before Canon (and nowadays, the game is not for decades, but for months).

Of course, the optics park for cameras with an EF-M mount can be expanded with an adapter and at the same time use all available EF-S and EF lenses (though I saw a list with restrictions on the use of some rare objects somewhere).

With the EF-M mount so far, there are only 2 cameras: the Canon EOS M (from this review) and the Canon EOS M2, introduced in autumn 2013.

Canon EOS M

Canon EOS M

Like most mirrorless cameras, Canon EOS M is interesting for its large APS-C format sensor, which allows you to create good image quality, no worse than modern SLR cameras. Roughly speaking, the camera uses a sensor taken from a SLR camera Canon EOS 650D, and later used in Canon EOS 700D. The camera takes pictures of a maximum size of 5184 × 3456 (18 MP).

Canon EOS M can use ISO in the range of 100-12.800, the sensitivity range can be expanded to a value ISO H (25.600). To take a photo, you can simply use ISO 12.800 and ISO H (equivalent to 25.600), but for shooting video ISO 12.800 is already called 'ISO H' (equivalent to 12.800), and an ISO sensitivity value with an equivalent of 25.600 is not available at all. In auto ISO mode, only values ​​up to ISO 6400 are available. The ISO value changes only in whole stops.

To use ISO H values, the ISO Range Expansion feature must be enabled. When using Highlight Priority, you cannot enable ISO 100 and ISO H (25.600 equivalent) in Still Mode, and ISO 100 and ISO H (12.800 equivalent) cannot be enabled in Movie Mode. ISO behavior is exactly like cameras Canon 650D, 700D.

Image quality is very similar to what you can get with SLR cameras. Canon 650D и 700D.

Canon EOS M

Canon EOS M

The maximum burst speed is 4.3 frames per second, the burst speed seriously drops with different settings for auto focus. Frame buffer the camera is small, on average 4-5 RAW images and about 12 JPEG images are placed in the buffer. If you use additional functions that allow you to correct lens imperfections and improve image quality, then frame buffer greatly sags when shooting in JPEG. The camera can automatically correct vignetting and color aberration of the lens.

The camera shutter is mechanical, however, with only one curtain. During shooting, the electronic first curtain is used. When shooting, a slight shutter lag is felt. The shutter, compared to many other cameras, works very quietly :). If you enable the shutter release without a lens in the menu, then with the camera you can use any manual optics for which there is an adapter for the Canon EOS-M mount. For precise focusing, you can enlarge the selected area of ​​the image. With manual lenses, metering is available. exposure and shooting in aperture priority mode.

The camera is very well assembled, the body is made of an alloy of metals. The camera together with the battery weighs 300 grams and in the hands it feels like a solidly made device.

Compartment for batteries and memory cards Canon EOS M

Compartment for batteries and memory cards Canon EOS M

I would say that the basis of the camera is a 3-inch display with 1.040.000 pixels. A similar display is available for models. Canon 100D, Canon 650D, 700D и 70D (in the latter it is also rotary). Almost all control is via the display. Touch screen with multi-touch support. There are very few controls on the camera itself and everything, even the most basic settings, is easiest to set using the display. The control joystick is very tiny and it is not always convenient to use it. The joystick ring rotates in a circle, while shooting with the joystick you can get quick access to some important functions.

On the one hand, camera control via a touchscreen is a godsend for novice users who can easily switch from a touchscreen mobile phone to a touchscreen camera. But for me, accustomed to quick access using dedicated controls, adjusting the camera using the sensor seemed extremely slow and inconvenient (especially in a cold season, when the sensor does not perceive control with gloves). If we abstract and remember that the camera is designed for the “point and shoot” shooting mode, then the control, due to the touch screen, is performed at the highest level and beginners who have come to the world of digital photography should be very happy with it :).

Canon EOS M with two adapters and a Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm 1: 2 D Defocus Image Control lens

Canon EOS M with two adapters and a lens Nikon AF DC-Nikkor 105mm 1: 2 D Defocus Image Control

Canon EOS M can shoot video in maximum Full HD 1920 * 1080 30p quality with stereo sound. Various combinations of frame size and quality can be selected. The video mode is selected by the main command dial on the top of the camera. For video mode, there are two options available - automatic and manual. When recording video in manual mode, you can control all the basic recording parameters - ISO, shutter speed, aperture and additional settings, by the type of Picture Style mode, etc.

The camera has a standard stereo microphone jack, as well as an HDMI output and a USB 2.0 port. Here video link from the owner of the lens.

Canon EOS M with two adapters and a Nikon AF Nikkor 35-70mm 1: 3.3-4.5 (MKII) lens

Canon EOS M with two adapters and a lens Nikon AF Nikkor 35-70mm 1: 3.3-4.5 (MKII)

The camera uses a hybrid phase focus Hybrid CMOS AF (exactly the same as Canon 650D, 700D in Live View). Auto focus speed is the main problem with this camera. The camera focuses noticeably slower than other mirrorless cameras, very often it makes mistakes in focusing, sometimes it cannot focus at all on the selected object, even if focusing using one specific zone is selected. Tracks objects in motion very poorly. I can't say that focusing is generally helpless, but I would like its better performance. And this is when using native lenses, with an EF-M mount and an STM focusing motor!

Hybrid Pro CMOS AF... Some of the matrix pixels are reserved for the autofocus system by measuring the phase difference, although such focusing works only in the central area of ​​the image and serves only for approximate focusing. Focus adjustment is carried out by usual 'slow' contrast focusing. The full potential of this focusing method is only available with Canon STM lenses. Selected area magnification is available as well as FlexiZone Single, FlexiZone Multi and Face Priority focus modes. You can enable continuous focus tracking, which forces the camera to focus even when the shutter button is not pressed. There are two main focusing methods available: 'One shot' (for static subjects) and 'Servo' (for objects in motion).

In general, Canon EOS M is a small camera, externally, and in terms of ease of use, very similar to modern digital point-and-shoot cameras. Even the silvery sticker with the basic capabilities of the camera is very similar to those of a soap dish (similar stickers are glued to laptop cases, which annoys me pretty much). The camera battery can hold about 200 photos on a single charge (this is very small compared to SLR cameras). I also liked the strap that can be quickly attached and removed from the camera straps. The strap has small clips for quick clamping on the camera.

Canon Speedlite 90EX

Canon Speedlite 90EX - Small external flash for Canon cameras weighing 50 grams. The flash is suitable not only for mirrorless cameras, like the Canon EOS M, but also for Canon EOS SLR cameras, for example, Canon EOS 5D (which does not have a built-in flash).

Canon Speedlite 90EX

Canon Speedlite 90EX

The flash is not particularly powerful, with a guide number of 9 meters. It uses 2 AAA batteries for power supply. The battery compartment cover is quite reliable, the flash itself is made in Taiwan, the shoe mount is made of plastic. I liked the small and quick flash latch in the camera's hot shoe, but the flash itself is pretty poor.

Canon Speedlite 90EX

Canon Speedlite 90EX

The Canon Speedlite 90EX has a fixed zoom of 24mm. To turn on / off, the 'ON / OFF' button is used, which should be held down for half a second to turn it on. To turn off the flash, simply press the same button once. The flash has a diode indicator, which is responsible for the flash readiness for operation. If the flash is charged, it glows orange (in the photo, the indicator is under the lightning symbol).

Canon Speedlite 90EX

Canon Speedlite 90EX Case

In the camera menu, you can set the flash mode:

  • ETTL - automatic operating mode.
  • М - manual operation mode, for which the power can be set from 1/1 (full) to 1/64.
  • Wireless Management: Optical (indicated by a lightning bolt). The Canon Speedlite 90EX can be made to control other Canon external flash units. In the camera menu, you can select the channel and group of flashes.

Canon Speedlite 90EX does not support high speed sync.

Canon Speedlite 90EX

Canon Speedlite 90EX

When using the Canon EOS M, the flash may automatically turn off when the camera is turned off.

The flash always turns off when the camera turns off automatically ('Camera auto off' function) even if the 'C.Fn. settings' option is selected. Flash Auto Off - Disabled. '

The flash does not turn off automatically when the camera is turned off only if the camera is turned off manually and the 'Settings C.Fn. Flash Auto Off - Disabled. '

There are no problems with the flash, the only thing that catches your eye is the long recharge time. I used the flash with two pairs of batteries, which took 5-6 seconds to recharge when shooting at full power :(.

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

The Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M is used to attach Canon EF and Canon EF-S mount lenses to Canon EF-M mount cameras. So far, I only know of two such cameras - the Canon EOS M and Canon EOS M2.

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

The adapter has a removable tripod foot. The foot is fixed with a special wide screw clamp. If you remove the foot, the hole that remains of it resembles a tripod socket, but its thread is slightly narrower.

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

The adapter is made of metal. There is a lens undock button on the case. The adapter is released in Taiwan. In the hands it feels like a solid and reliable thing.

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

On the case there are marks for docking the lens with the adapter and the adapter with the camera.

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M

With the adapter, auto focus with EF, EF-S lenses is preserved, and the correct values ​​are recorded for pictures EXIF.

This is how the Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M looks like on a Canon EOS M camera

This is how the Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M looks like on a Canon EOS M camera

In the middle, the adapter is made in the form of a tapering stepped shaft, which avoids unnecessary glare and re-reflection of the rays. By the way, this adapter design confirms that the Canon EF-M mount will not expand under full-format lenses :(,

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

Tiny Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM Front Lens

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM is a very small and cute pancake lens. Despite its size, and it weighs only 105 grams, the lens has a large maximum aperture with f / 2.0 aperture. And to everything else, it uses tiny filters with a diameter of 43 mm. At first, it even seems that the filters are not designed for this lens at all.

Metal mount Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

Metal mount Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

Lens uses new focus technology STMSTepper Motor - stepper motor or focus stepper motor. STM was supposed to improve the quality of focus when shooting video, special attention is paid to smooth focus. Focusing is really smooth, fast, but when focusing (both manual and automatic), the lens is noisy, the nature of the noise resembles the buzz of a transformer. A similar noise can be observed in the mirror pancake lens. Canon Lens EF 40mm 1: 2.8 STM. Noise disappears only if you rotate the focus ring very, very slowly.

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM with covers

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM with covers

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM uses an electronic focusing ring. The ring is quite comfortable, but its serration is not rubberized. There is no focus mode switch on the lens, to switch to manual focus mode - you need to use the camera menu. In manual focus mode, to move the lens from focusing to infinity to MDF, you need to rotate the ring 360 degrees. The focusing ring can be rotated in any direction without restrictions. There is an FTM-mode - Full Time Manual Focusing (constant manual focusing), however, which works only if the camera is set to AF + MF mode and only after the camera has focused. During focusing, the front the lens does not rotate, only the trunk is lengthened. The minimum focusing distance is only 15 cm, and the maximum magnification ratio is 1: 4.8.

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM on Canon EOS M

Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM on Canon EOS M

The lens is well assembled (despite being manufactured in Taiwan), with a metal mount. There is only a mark on the lens for connecting to the camera. There are no grooves for the hood, it needs to be screwed in instead of or on top of the filter. The lens hood is not included.

The diaphragm consists of seven rounded blades and closes to F / 22. On covered diaphragms in the blur zone, nuts can still be traced (example on f / 4).

Sizes of Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM and Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Sizes of Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM and Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Feature: when turning on and off, when closing the battery-chamber cover (even if only removing a memory card without a battery), and when attaching to the camera, the lens is initialized. When turned on, the lens sticks out its trunk, focusing a few meters. When turned off, the lens hides its trunk, while it is clear that the trunk enters the lens barrel much deeper than when focusing at infinity. This means that the lens has a special 'parking' trunk, which allows it to be reduced in size during transport. It's a little annoying that when the camera is off, if you press the button for viewing the picture, the lens will also initialize.

The optical scheme of the lens consists of 7 elements in 6 groups, one element is aspherical.

Optical design Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

Optical design Canon Lens EF-M 22mm 1: 2 STM

The lens is sharp enough on F / 2.0 even around the edges of the frame. It gives a good contrast, slight distortion, chromatic aberration present, but quite expected. In backlight it can catch glare (example). In general, it turned out to be a cute 'kid' for a wide range of tasks. EGF of the lens is 35 mm, which, in turn, is somewhere between a wide-angle lens and a standard lens. With this lens you can shoot almost anything :).

Here link to the archive with the originals - 367 MB, 17 photos in .CR2 format (RAW) from a Canon EOS M camera (and more archive with night photos) When shooting was used protective filter Marumi 43mm MC-UV made in Japan.

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM is the most common stock lens for Canon EF-M mount cameras with 29x zoom. EGF of the lens is 88-210 mm, while it is suitable for most simple photographic tasks. The lens weighs just 52 grams, uses small 25 mm filters, has a minimum focusing distance of 1 cm and a maximum zoom ratio of 4: XNUMX (which is very good for small subjects).

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

For focusing, the STM-motor (STepper Motor) is used - a stepper focusing motor that allows you to perform smooth, quiet and fast focusing.

The lens uses internal focusing. The focusing ring is electronic, without direct connection with the mechanical part. The focusing ring is made of plastic, with non-rubberized toothed inserts. The focus ring remains fixed during autofocus. In manual focusing mode, the ring very smoothly changes the focusing distance, to move the lens from infinity to MDF, you need to rotate it 180 degrees. The focusing ring can be rotated in any direction without restrictions. There is also a constant manual focus control (the so-called FTM mode - Full Time Manual Focusing), but the trouble is, it only works if the AF + MF mode is selected on the camera and only after the camera has focused (this is indicated in the instructions, when Canon still refers to this mode as 'Full Time' when it is not 'Full Time' at all).

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

The lens has only focal length marks, a bayonet mount mark and a small red mark for attaching the hood. Also on the case you can find information about MDF in meters and feet, international certificates and a serial number. From the side of the bayonet, the place of manufacture is indicated - 'Made in Taiwan'.

Maximum trunk length Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

Maximum trunk length Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM

The lens comes with a Canon EW-54 plastic bayonet lens hood, which can be mounted back and forth for transportation. The lens hood snaps tight enough, I was even afraid to damage the trunk of the lens when installing it.

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM with hood

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM with hood

Unlike many class 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 lenses, the Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM trunk does not move in waves, but simply lengthens smoothly from the minimum focal length to the maximum. It looks like the trunk is made of metal. By the way, the lens mount is definitely metal, which is surprising, because Canon EF-M 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS STM is designed for compact cameras, for which they are trying to make the lightest lenses, replacing metal with plastic. Even the mirror mount Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM made of plastic.

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM with hood in transport mode

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM with hood in transport mode

The aperture consists of 7 blades and closes to F / 22 @ 18mm and F / 36 @ 55mm. On closed diaphragms, the petals form a smooth hole, which is good for the blur zone.

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM on Canon EOS M

Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM on Canon EOS M

The lens does not have a focus mode switch and does not have a stabilization system operation switch. The focus mode and the stabilizer are controlled through the wilds of the camera menu :(. The stabilizer works well, it is stated that it can compensate for 4 stops by shutter speed.

Canon EF-M 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS STM is the most simplified lens for a simplified camera :).

The optical scheme of the lens consists of 13 elements in 11 groups, 3 elements are aspherical (well, at least they did not save on this).

Optical design of Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM on a Canon EOS M camera

Optical design of Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM on a Canon EOS M camera

Canon EF-M 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS STM holds back light well, only if you drive a very bright object, for example, the sun, into the frame, you can get glare. At 18 mm, there is quite a lot of distortion. Lens is not automatically corrected on the Canon EOS M. The lens suffers from slight chromatic aberrations. Like most similar lenses, it is not the sharpest at open apertures, but the contrast is okay. In general, the Canon EF-M 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS STM is a good kit lens, but it's still a long way from a good one.

Here link to the archive with the originals - 653 MB, 28 photos in .CR2 format (RAW) from a Canon EOS M camera. protective filter Hoya HMC UV (c) 52mm.

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Personal experience

I confess that while working, I did not feel any enthusiasm from any of the lenses, or from the camera in general. Everything is too stripped down, poking around in the menu for the sake of enabling an elementary function is annoying. The camera itself is not very responsive to controls. For lenses, the FTM mode does not work at all. Adding here not the most successful focusing - I would not look at this camera at all :(. But, given that this camera was created apparently not for photographers, but for ordinary amateur photographers, it has the right to life, and you can squeeze out of it high-quality photos.

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Comments: 117, on the topic: Canon EOS M review

  • Timur

    Thanks for the detailed review. Finally made sure not to buy a mirrorless camera to the existing DSLR. Let it be heavier and more voluminous, but more convenient.

    • Lynx

      You just don’t have to take Nikon or Canon.
      well, taking from the position “everything is the same as in a DSLR, but easier and cheaper” is nonsense. Mirrorless cameras have slightly different positioning.

    • Slon

      Don't tell me, don't tell me that you shouldn't take a mirrorless camera, I won't agree. Long dabbled in Samsung NX11 and NX100. I got hold of glasses and a bunch of adapters. And here's the paradox ... I sold my NX11 and NX100, bought like big good DSLRs. Well, here it is, happiness is direct - convenient, the picture is super, everything is large and solid, but ... I missed NX. Even though it was an ugly EVI, the matrix was noisy, but what a convenience it was - a histogram in the viewfinder, a real picture of the future photo and a lot of information, focusing on manuals, no front-backs and jolts when releasing the shutter. Good optics did not have time to sell. Well, in fact, how much will it cost for my DSLR Nikosha 16mm wide, f2.4, like the one I bought for a penny, hand-held, for the NX? Scary to imagine. Or just a lovely 30mm f2.0 pancake? I'm not talking about the 45mm f1.8. In short, I bought the NX20 at the sale (which, in comparison with the NX11, EVI is tastier and much better with noises, and even 1 \ 8000 in stock). Now he is always in my bag. And Nikosha hollows the most responsible and serious events)))
      PS Yes, but recently discovered another interesting thing. Came on the NX adapter small under the M39. What a compact thing you get with M39 glass! Found a brand new Jupiter-8 in the pantry, and stuck Oh! Nishtyak! Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The glass on the M42 was certainly interesting, but the compactness of the system was destroyed immediately. Now we plow through Ebay in search of the useless M39)

      • Ivan

        +1
        Almost the same thing, only with a Canon SLR and a NEX.

  • sergey

    Thank you for the work done, and as for the camera, I liked it so much that the Kenon company does not trim its amateur cameras, for example, working with manual lenses or flash sync

    • Lynx

      Yeah ... does not cut))

  • Igor

    Not impressive ... If you need quality, then you should take at least a budget DSLR (the same D3100), and if you need compactness and versatility, then it's better to take something like this http://rozetka.com.ua/fujifilm_finepix_s4080/p1185830/ ... A friend took this from me for travel - the versatility of the zoom will allow you not to carry a bunch of lenses and get acceptable quality for such a price and purpose (household photography at home and on vacation).

    • Yuriy75

      Don't mislead people about the picture quality on Fujifilm Finepix s4800. This is a series of superzos that shoot disgustingly - the picture is either soapy like a watercolor, or looks like an applique (when sharpening in the settings). Plus, the lenses are assembled with a skewed optical axis, the left side of the photo is always blurry. Moreover, this effect is present on all models of the s series, I specially checked it with friends, and look at the examples of photos posted on the Internet, he himself owned s3200. After this mirror-like monster, Canon 1100D with a whale lens seemed to be the height of perfection! This series is a shame for Fujifilm.
      Thanks to Arkady for the review. Despite many cuts in functionality, I think the Canon EOS-m is an excellent camera, for those who are just starting to switch from a smartphone to a camera :), as well as a good option for a second camera for DSLR owners to carry around daily. After all, for shooting landscapes and small photo walks, it is quite enough.

      • Yarkiy

        Exactly, a completely useless device, what do you want from a matrix the size of two match heads.

      • Igor

        I disagree ... Yes, the picture is noisy on "AUTO" due to the fact that the camera raises the ISO, but in the aperture priority at ISO up to 400 the pictures are very good and quite sharp (the autofocus is not fast but tenacious). The matrix is ​​small, but only 14MP and CCD, which is very good. A friend will throw off a couple of photos - I'll post a link here.

        • Yuriy75

          You look at examples of photos on the same outlet, to which you gave the link, and there the pro shot and all the same watercolor and the blurred left edge stylized as a blur zone (he always did that).

    • Denis

      “If you need quality, you should take at least a budget DSLR” - and what, the mirror improves the quality of photos? Rave. Here the matrix is ​​from a DSLR, and the quality of the images will be like that of a DSLR, all other things being equal. The inconvenience of control is another matter.

  • anonym

    I don't understand people who buy this ...

  • Jury

    Thank you, Arkady. The camera, unambiguously, has the right to life. Especially with the small 22mm lens. The owner gets a large matrix in a small size, high ISO, mechanical shutter, aperture - everything that is missing in the phone, for example :) (which is always at hand). The sharpness of the 22mm lens is very good, and strong vignetting can be easily corrected in the editor, as well as not quite correct exposure metering and WB. A photo camera that you can always carry with you, unless, of course, you “screw” it to MK2 :)

    • Arkady Shapoval

      I just could not resist putting the MK2 on it :) I was afraid that something would not happen to the camera, because the camera was on the lens, and then I just turned the photo 180 degrees to make the effect better :)

      • Jury

        a 180 turn was a strong move. Without it, the photo would not look so good :)

  • Yarkiy

    Somehow I ran into the Internet on a podcast of seasoned photographers, where the right to life of such equipment was discussed. The essence of the conversation boiled down to the fact that the mirrorless thing is cool, but only if it is FF, incredibly fast and its lenses are small but super-duper. In short, they want the camera to fit into the breast pocket of the shirt and shoot at D4s.
    Thanks to Arkady for interesting reading.

  • Victor

    I will not stop wondering at the detail, the quality of your reviews and the amount of material worked out. Thanks! Forgot to indicate how it feels like a weight balance with 80-200mm 1: 2.8D :)

    • Lynx

      For balance, I’ll tell you so: the Canon system camera has no effect on the weight balance of the Nikon 80-200 / 2,8 lens, especially with a fastened hood

  • Vasilii

    Wonderful and absolutely comprehensive review of an interesting digital gate for manual optics. Everything is as expected. Disgusting management negates all the benefits. It turns out that Sony is currently the only company producing digital probes for rangefinder manual optics with normal control.

    • Lynx

      Exactly!
      and normal mirrorless cameras turned out generally only in fuji.

      • mrHuM

        Exactly!
        and normal mirrorless cameras turned out generally only at Olympus.

        • Alexander

          and Sony’s normal mirrorless cameras were obtained at all.

      • Lynx

        You guys get too much fun, don't get carried away

  • Alexander

    And do not forget about Olympus.

  • Serg

    The speed of the camera and focusing is treated with the latest firmware, it feels like a performance increase of almost half, especially focusing on 18-55mm

    • Arkady Shapoval

      hahaha, even if the growth is doubled, this will not change matters :)

  • Jury

    For such a matrix, with such a price ... ..

    • anonym

      And what is wrong with the matrix and price?

  • Exhausted

    All these are the first swallows. Well, whoever doesn’t like the word swallows let them be the first pancakes, well, those that are OK. As if we didn’t want mirrorless mirrors, but brought to mind (FF, processors, ergonomics, corresponding optics), they will supersede the ones we love so much SLR cameras. And, believe me, time is just around the corner. In the meantime, we have what we have.)

  • Sashko D3s

    Pffff ... Canon losers. Personally, I see only Fujifilm's cameras from mirrorless cameras. Well, take for example X100s, x100t, x30, X-E2, X-PRO1, and X-T1 will tear apart any Canon without the Mark 2 inscription :) And any Nikon D 0000 will tear to smithereens. And in terms of noise at ISO 6400 Fuji has long caught up with such monsters as Nikon D3s, and soon it will surpass :) And what is the correct color for Fuji !!! And in addition, on all forums about Canon technology, I see only one exclamation like “a penny breaks everyone” or “the third penny breaks all cameras, even Hassel and Mamia and Faise Wang combined”, usually all forums dedicated to Canon technology are 90% from such phrases. It's amazing that none of the fans of the Canon brand has yet written such a phrase HERE))) Konanists, forgive me if I hurt you :) Pyatak breaks everyone !!!

    • Yaroslav

      Sasha, the main thing is that you don’t hurt anyone close to you with your saliva.

      • Sashko D3s

        Yaroslav, I have no relatives, I am an orphan.

        • Yaroslav

          Sorry, I didn’t. But on the other hand, can you put your own energetic energy in this direction? And leave the destruction of ideological enemies for later?

          • Sashko D3s

            Yaroslav, in no case do I consider anyone to be enemies, and I will say even more that Canon has very successful models of photographic equipment that even surpass Nikon. But the model from the review is clearly not a strong point of this brand. The same Canon G-series (G12, G16, etc.) are very successful models that can do a lot.

            • Yaroslav

              I absolutely agree with you. In general, it is strange that companies (Canon and Nikon) with such experience in developing photographic equipment are in trouble with the development of mirrorless cameras. It is curious what will be their next steps in the fight for this segment. Whatever one may say, but compactness, focal length, hybrid autofocus (and other "goodies" of mirrorless cameras) take their toll.

              • Sashko D3s

                I would gladly buy a Nikon mirrorless camera in order to use my glasses from Nikon DSLRs on it, without losing autofocus. And the SB-910 flash. But Nikon does not and probably will not have such mirrorless cameras. Rather, there is, but with a crop-crop-crop matrix and castrated up to ONE button “masterpiece” control. So I'm looking at fujifilm. And I advise others :) There X-T1 is already starting to tear up, along with the D810 and other whistle-blowing things like the D750. And Canon in general is great, they realized that their owners were fap on the word Mark 2 and started calling all their new models Mark 2. Gee gee gee. 7D Mark II. Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II. You see, the 1100D Mark II will be released soon.

    • anonym

      Pyatak tears everyone !!! Not Canon, but Nikon D5. When they release him)))

      • Sashko D3s

        Tie the anonym. Right now, you can tear the canonists to shreds :) Pydvak tears everyone !!! Canonists I am with you. There are no cameras except Canon, and Mark Two is his prophet, EOS-amen!

        • Jury

          Wings, legs and most importantly the tail….

    • Scarecrow

      Trekhsotkovich, I certainly admit that Fuji is good (even very good), but how can it be that APS-C Fuji is tearing up the full frames of Canon and Nikon. Are you exaggerating maleho?

      • Lynx

        exaggerates.
        On the other hand, for a number of factors, the fuji is really better than the top cropped and full-frame carcasses of canon and nikon.

  • Oleg

    Thanks for the cool informative review. It is very interesting and informative to read.

  • Dmitriy

    I have such a device from 22 and 18-55. Brought from the USA a year ago. In principle, I agree with everything. If you use it for the purposes for which it was created, there is almost no equal in terms of price / quality of images. If you try to portray a professional, then, naturally, he will be inconvenient and almost useless. Even any Canon from the G-series is much more convenient in terms of settings (I had a G9). Often there is a lack of an additional wheel for adjusting something. And the rotating joystick ring is often pressed during rotation, which leads to the transition to quick menus. I tried to set up these quick menus in such a way as to minimally climb the main menu, which brightened up this shortcoming a little. I took it with me to the mountains - it is normal, more convenient than the CZK. In my purse Vanguard 10 (which is unlikely to fit a DSLR with a whale) fit: a carcass, 2 lenses, a flash and 2 extra. battery. But for such purposes, nevertheless, it is better to have a compact with a large matrix. But the quality of the images is pleasing, which negates almost all of its shortcomings. In short, a good camera for unhurried shooting if you want the quality of a digital camera and a small camera. With a pancake, it's generally gorgeous, whatever the picture, what's the size. If you need to quickly change a bunch of settings - not your coat. But the device is definitely worth paying attention to. If I would choose to buy it now, I don’t know. It would be nice to look towards Sony RX-100-II, Canon G7X, G1X Mk2, etc. I really like this concept after using the G9.
    Cons:
    -Poor external management (if used to the traditional);
    -Large delay between frames;
    -Weak battery;
    - Few native lenses;
    -No viewfinder;
    Pros:
    -Good picture;
    -Light weight and size;
    - Well assembled (that lenses that carcass);
    -A nice shooting process (purely subjective);
    I will add autofocus. With the new firmware, it focuses quite quickly, no worse and no better than competitors. If you are interested in any more details, I will be glad to answer

  • anonym

    Honestly, I don’t know why people take mirrorless cameras ... If you want to shoot cool - take a DSLR. Want a cheap and easy soap dish. But the mirrorless ... Photographer's non-alcoholic beer ...

    • Dmitriy

      In my case, the price played a major role. A year ago, I took the carcass + 18-55 for 3200 UAH. For such money there was no sane alternative.

      • Vladimir

        I took the same thing a year ago + a flash for 3600. I wanted 100D, but I didn’t have enough finance. Now I understand that I still had to be patient and take a hundred. M-ka is not bad, it is trimmed !!

    • Lynx

      Your ignorance does not change the picture of the world dragging then ..
      And if you want to shoot great - learn to shoot.

      • Ivan

        +1

      • Lev

        +100

    • Dmitriy

      And yes, “cool to shoot” is just the same expressed in the ability to do it on almost any technique, and not just on a DSLR. The situation is the same as with a good driver. And with any real professional. A good tool does not make a person a specialist yet. He's just a man with a good instrument.

    • Yuriy75

      I want to take it as a second camera, because my wife is afraid to take a SLR in her hands (for her, even turn the zoom on the problem) and this is like a soap box and there will be no loss. :)

  • anonym

    Arkady, what do you think is better, Canon EOS M or Nikon 1?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Different weight categories. I'm for Canon purely because of the larger matrix.

      • Yuriy75

        +

    • Denis

      Nikon 1 is essentially a soap box with interchangeable lenses. The only plus, in my opinion, is the absence of a mechanical shutter and, as a consequence, a monstrous rate of fire, and, well, relatively compact. Definitely better than a simple soap dish, if only because of interchangeable optics, but a small matrix does not allow it to reach other mirrorless cameras in terms of quality and capabilities ...

    • Ivan

      It would be more correct to compare this Canon with Nikon Coolpix A, if you want to compare it with Nikon.

      • anonym

        Nikon Coolpix A does not have the ability to change optics

  • Dmitriy

    Someone tried to cling to Soviet lenses on him?

  • Scarecrow

    Arkady, d5200 and d7100 have the same matrices -> pruflink:
    http://www.digicamdb.com/compare/nikon_d7100-vs-nikon_d5200/

    And the d5300 and d7100 have different matrices -> pruflink:
    http://www.digicamdb.com/compare/nikon_d7100-vs-nikon_d5300/

    Thus, the famous d7100 with an unusually viscous ravine has a Toshibov matrix on board ... Here are the things.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      And where is there about the matrix? I don’t argue, maybe so, but firstly, the comment is off-topic, and secondly, such data aggregators are very often mistaken.

  • Konstantin

    Perhaps now it makes sense to test rangefinder optics on such devices, which will work not only in macro mode.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      And how do you like the idea of ​​arranging a fundraiser on Sonya a7 in Radozhiva so that you can already test the rangefinders in full frame?

      • Lynx

        maybe all the same fuji? although, sony full frame .. then yes.

      • Yuriy75

        I am for fundraising!

      • Jury

        I'm for, we will collect for a long time - it's time to start :)

      • Konstantin

        Positive, just do not forget about crop.

  • Yarkiy

    I think, to raise funds, it would not hurt to make a separate topic with a detailed description of the methods of transfers.

  • Sashko D3s

    Threw 500 rubles on webmoney.
    Guys, let's finally finally help Arkady at least once!
    After all, he does a lot for us, but what have we done for him ???
    Let's make him a small gift for the new year, he has long dreamed of a Sony A7, and he does not need this technique for personal use, but for writing further reviews, reviews for us.
    Do not be shy!
    Throw any amount up to 50 rubles and 100 rubles.
    Indeed, for you, 100 rubles is one cup of coffee, but for Arkady it can become a dream come true (Sony A7), and an inspiration for new even more interesting reviews.
    I believe that Arkady rightfully deserves such encouragement for his work.
    Let's make it so that on New Year's Eve on the main page of Radozhiva there was a photo of a smiling Arkady with a Sony A7 under the Christmas tree :)
    All success! Together - we are force. Let's prove it!

    • Yarkiy

      Handsome, he said well! The Christmas tree, the New Year, it's all great, but for example, I don’t have any webmoney, so I offer a separate top with a description of other ways to help.

      • Sashko D3s

        Yarkiy I also do not have webmoney, I send money to Arkady always through qiwi which is in all of Russia, in all of Kazakhstan and, it seems, in Belarus too. Well, for those who do not have either QIWI or Webmoney, Arkady wrote his Visa bank card number, which is easier to transfer money from card to card online directly from your computer, you don’t even need to go to the bank. In addition, Arkady has this page on which it is written how to help the project: https://radojuva.com.ua/about-radojuva/
        It is written there:
        Project Assistance
        You can very easily help the site by clicking on the buttons of social networks Vkontakte, Twitter, Facebook, Google Plus :) The buttons are at the bottom of each page.
        You can directly help the project through:
        WebMoney:
        R204784733673
        U 164203438662
        Z 196242376191
        B 338694081567
        PrivatBank Card: 5168 7572 1691 8641
        Find out where the funds were or will be spent here and here.
        And I am very glad that Arkady has already put me on the list of those who helped Radozhiva. This is very nice, for which many thanks to Arkady. I will help as far as possible.

      • Yarkiy

        Sashko, I am not from Russia, and not even from Kazakhstan, but generally from far abroad. The type of my "visa" (credit card) does not allow direct transfers to foreign banks directly from my home PC. So I'm wondering what other ways you can use. I do not need WebMoney, Yandex money, all the more, I am registered on PayPal, but I don’t know whether it is possible to transfer money through it.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          You can use your card through any e-changer to upload to the same webmoney :). Whoever wants always finds an opportunity :)

  • Vasily

    Crop is of course a dead end, but I, too, for Fuji X-T1. Sony, in addition to full-frame, has no pluses.

  • Arkady Shapoval

    They persuaded me to raise funds - https://radojuva.com.ua/2014/11/lilu/

  • Dmitriy

    Very comprehensive review)
    In my opinion, a good option for those who are looking for a mirrorless mirror.

    • Lynx

      there are much more delicious options for mirrorless ..

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