How to photograph the baptism of a child.

I’m not a clergyman, and therefore I can’t know all the subtleties of this or that sacrament, rite or ceremony, I don’t even know how to name some of them correctly, but I know how to remove them. Therefore, let believers forgive me for incorrect expressions about what the priest does and how, or what happens during the baptism ceremony.

Photos from the baptism of a child

Photos from the baptism of a child

The introductory word that, in the traditions of the Orthodox Church, the rite of baptism is a very important church sacrament that takes place only once in a person's life, we will omit, because everyone already knows about it, let's get down to business.

Baptism in Vladimir Cathedral

Baptism in the Vladimir Cathedral. Baptism is held not in the main part of the temple, but in the side 'Baptismal'

Usually, baptismal filming begins 15-20 minutes before the ceremony in the temple. These 15-20 minutes, I recommend taking a baby in a stroller, in the arms of parents, to take general photos with guests. It may happen that at the baptismal ceremony the child will burst into tears so much that it will not be able to stop for a long time, and alas, you will not be able to correct it, and as a result, you will not be able to get normal pictures after the baptism. In any case, you need to get the camera out of the coffer still on the street, in front of the entrance to the temple.

If shooting takes place in winter, I recommend starting shooting directly from the temple, for one simple reason - so as not to freeze the equipment, which immediately begins to fog up in the temple’s warm atmosphere and has to be allowed to warm up for 15-20 minutes. In this case, you need to take general pictures with the temple after the ceremony, because when you take the equipment to a cold street from a warm room, it will not fog up and allow you to shoot further, after which you put the camera in the case and go home or drive away to continue shooting (if it is planned, for example, at a banquet in honor of the baptism). In any case, the camera will have time to stand still, and you will not have to shoot at this time.

Baptism in the Church of the Life-Giving Spring (Kiev-Pechersk Lavra)

Baptism in the Church of the Life-Giving Spring (Kiev-Pechersk Lavra)

In different temples, the ceremony itself can be held in different ways, but the difference itself is not particularly fundamental. Here I will explain how everything goes in a regular Orthodox church or church. And everything goes according to the following plan:

1. The priest explains to the participants of the celebration how everything will go. A good father will tell the photographer where to go, where not to, where it is better to stand, where it is better to shoot - but this is rare. Usually no one explains anything to anyone, it comes to the point that on the set I have to help people at the ceremony to understand what is happening and what needs to be done. For photographers who are filming a baptism for the first time, I recommend ask father where and how you can move around the temple and warn that you are “A cool photographer with DSLRpublishing heartbreaking clangs shutterand". Believe me, all clergymen have long been accustomed to video and photography in their churches and it will not be difficult for them to advise you in two or three words. Those who are especially interested can ask for a blessing for the shooting, I asked about it a couple of times, but I didn’t hear anything other than “Yes, shoot”, and now I just greet the priest and say that I will not interfere with anyone.

The clergyman often takes the child in his arms

The clergyman often takes the child in his arms

2. The child is given to the godfather in his arms, the godparents are put “at attention” in a certain place, and the priest begins the ceremony. At this point, I shoot 1-2 frames per minute, just letting everyone get used to camera shutter sound.

Baptism of a child, Church of the Nativity on Obolon

Baptism of a child, Church of the Nativity on Obolon

3. The priest reads prayers over the cross, kryzhma (such a special robe for the child that you need to buy for baptism), a font, etc. At this moment, he can light candles over the font. Usually 3 candles are placed above the font. I like to take the moment of burning candles above her. This is a good frame for "dilution" in a photo book or album. Also, the priest still sets fire to 2 candles for the godparents, which they hold during the entire baptismal ceremony.

In fact, only one of the godparents holds both candles while the other is trying to "cope" with the child.

Photos from the baptism of a child

Photos from the baptism of a child

4. Father gives the godparents to read a piece of paper a.k.a. "Symbol of Faith", usually the godmother holds a piece of paper on which they, together with the godfather, read the necessary words. You can make 1-2 common shots, it will look like a kind of "oath". At such moments, I shoot more of the child, while he sits calmly in the arms of his godfather. By the way, there may be not one pair of godparents, but two, or even three! In such cases, they all stand together at the service in front of the priest, usually the priest forgets to transfer the child from one parent to another, as a result, one couple receives more photos with the child than the second. To compensate for this injustice, be sure to take a shared photo only with the godparents and the child, when he is in the arms of different couples.

Photos from the baptism of a child

Photos from the baptism of a child

5. The father makes the godparents renounce the devil. Oh yes, believe me, this is a sight to behold. To do this, he turns them towards the exit from the temple. Usually the photographer is somewhere on the side of the father, in the end it turns out that the godparents turned their backs to him. In this case, I step back a little and take pictures of my parents and father when they are standing in my profile. I do not recommend going around and taking pictures of parents in front, because they need to "spit and blow on the devil" in the end, they will spit and blow on the photographer. In addition, the father can himself “blow” the baby - this moment will fit perfectly into this report. After that, he again turns his godparents to himself and asks to take an oath of combination with God. By the way, godparents in this case do everything for the child themselves, because the child is still small and cannot be responsible for himself. As a result, godparents instead of the child renounce the devil and accept faith in God.

Baptism in Vladimir Cathedral, Kiev

Baptism in Vladimir Cathedral, Kiev

6. The father asks to undress the child. Usually the baby is taken to a special table and stripped there. This is a good reason to take a baby naked, to photograph pleasant little things as mothers / fathers / grandmothers bent over him and try to undress / dress. Usually stripped to the diaper, but sometimes completely. Shoot here as you like.

Baby baptism

Baby baptism

7. The father performs the anointing of the child with oil (oil of joy). This is an important and crucial moment for the photographer. I recommend removing it as the priest opens the jars of oil, takes out a brush and smears the baby (usually only a brow). If the father closed the child with himself, I advise you to raise the camera high up, set a wide viewing angle on the lens and perform a couple of common shots from this sacrament. Usually I take 2-3 pictures from this sacrament for a photo book.

Photo from the baptism of a child. Anointing before immersion in the font

Photo from the baptism of a child. Anointing before immersion in the font

8. The most important point! The father takes the child in his arms and lowers it into the font. Although, he can ask the godfather to do this. Here you can take off the baby in the arms of the priest while he follows from the godparents to the font. The result is pronounced shots that emphasize baptism - a child in the arms of a priest. Then the father lowers the child into the font and pours holy water on him.

Baby baptism

Baby baptism

Attention: it may happen that at the speed of light the father will plunge the child into the font and take him back. I highly recommend take the first dipping burst. Personally, I already know where some dad dips and how I can adjust. But for beginners in this matter, I want to emphasize the fact that the font and dipping of a child is key story of the entire baptismal ceremony. If you fill up these pictures, then fill up virtually the entire baptismal survey. Usually at this time I do the maximum possible and necessary number of frames.

The baptism of a child in Pirogovo

The baptism of a child in Pirogovo

There may be such an option that the font is very small and the father only lightly watered the baby’s head with water. Here, too, you need not to slander and to remove it beautifully. I use flash and "freeze»The droplets of the flash falling drops of water, which looks very unusual and pleasant. I usually take this frame on the cover of a photo book.

The baptism of a child. Sample Photos

The baptism of a child. Sample Photos

9. The father dries the sponge in the water from the font and wipes the child with it. This I almost never shoot, because usually it is done very quickly and more symbolically. Although, often the priest lays a hand on the forehead of the baby and this can also make a good shot.

Photos from the baptism of a child

Photos from the baptism of a child

10. Father smears the baby with ointment, a procedure similar to anointing with oil, with the only difference that a person is smeared with ointment once in a lifetime, and if you "screw up" this shot, it will be technically impossible to repeat it. But using the example of the sacrament of chrismation, you can quickly navigate and not miss anything. Usually, the priest applies oil to some parts of the baby's body, at this moment you can take it off larger to show the process itself.

Photos from the baptism of children

Photos from the baptism of children

11. After the font, the priest passes the child into the arms of the godparents, who at that time are holding the kryzhma. This "transfer" can also be removed. The father takes scissors and cuts the baby (more symbolically). From this, too, get a good shot.

The baptism of a child in the Church of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker on the waters

The baptism of a child in the Church of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker on the waters

13. Father three times leads the godparents around the lectern. You can shoot this moment with a wide angle. A 28 mm focal length is enough for me when shooting with a full-frame camera (the equivalent on a crop is 18 mm). Nothing fancy and usually looks so-so in a photo book.

Baptism of a child in Holy Trinity Cathedral in Troeshchina

Baptism of a child in the Holy Trinity Cathedral in Troieschyna (the baptismal facility is located in the basement of the Temple)

13. After this comes the sacrament of "introduction" of churching. The father reads prayers over the child's mother, then takes the child in his arms again and carries him to the icons. I strongly recommend making a lot of shots with your own mother, because usually she is your customer, and it is a sin not to take the child with your own mother.

Baptism of a child at Holy Trinity Ioninsky Monastery

Baptism of a child at Holy Trinity Ioninsky Monastery

Attention! You can catch a very good shot at this moment. Usually the priest in his arms brings the child up, which looks just amazing. Do not miss this moment! The father brings the boys to the Holy of Holies, the girls do not bring them there. At the same time, he enters one door and leaves another. Going for a priest through these doors is absolutely impossible!

Baptism in St. Andrew's Church

Baptism in St. Andrew's Church

If there is such an opportunity, detain all participants in the ceremony and ask them to take a general picture in the temple near the font. I was thrown a couple of times that you can’t shoot people who have their backs turned to icons. Anyway, be prepared that you can hear such strange conclusions or requests that your digital camera can turn into a film one.

After leaving the temple, take another general shot of all those present, take a wide shot so that the entire temple is visible. Such a picture can even be immediately placed in a photo book or album, it is final - the job is done, everyone is happy.

Baptism, St. Elias Church

Baptism, St. Elias Church

Work with a videographer

Usually, the baptism is filmed together with a videographer (videographer), who in 50% of cases is the first time at the baptism :). I use a tactic in which I am always behind the operator. This way he will never capture me in the frame. Believe me, it will be much easier for you to cut a cameraman out of a photo than to remove you from a video. I advise you to move around the temple with the videographer in strict synchronization. Determine who sets the pace and point of the shooting and adhere to that seniority. If the videographer is really "oak tree", shoot as you like. Personally, my team and I never observe any nuances or inconveniences when shooting videos and photos.

Sometimes a videographer uses external light on his camera, which highlights the main shooting details. Sometimes such light helps to shoot without a flash. The image below shows a videographer who shoots on Canon EOS 60D and Canon Zoom Lens EF 24-70mm 1: 2.8 L II USM using a monopod and an external light source mounted on the hot shoe of its DSLR camera.

Some videographers put additional light on special studio stands, and also use other equipment: external radio microphones (they record sound from a certain point of the temple without extraneous sounds), tripods, monopods, rails and large 'body kits' for their cameras. Particularly resourceful people put a small video camera in the font itself and record the baby's immersion with a view from the water.

Work in tandem with a videographer

Work in tandem with a videographer

Probably many will be interested in the technique of shooting. I'm using two different shooting techniques: with flash and without flash, which are radically different.

Without flash:

Without flash, I shoot at 90% using the “M” mode with the ISO auto control function. This way I can control immediately both shutter speed and aperture and the acceptable ISO threshold. Not all cameras can use the auto-ISO function, with such cameras it is easier to use the aperture priority mode. I take almost all pictures at shutter speeds from 1/50 to 1/125. Exposure 1/125 is very convenient for shooting people, during this time there is no blur in the frame from moving them in the frame. Usually my ISO threshold is 12.800 units. I use spot metering during shooting exposure and focus on one point. In this state, froze exposure on my cameras it’s done according to the area of ​​the focus point, which allows me to get the object I need correctly exposed. I always shoot in RAW, in which it is easy to correct small nuances. When shooting without a flash, I try to duplicate the main frames much more, because due to the satisfied long shutter speeds, I can get blur in some pictures.

With flash:

Of course, I would be happy to shoot without a flash all the time, but the picture with the correct use of the flash is often much better than without it, this is due to the fact that most temples and churches in the middle are very, very dimly lit. There is no problem in the noise of the picture, namely in the fact that the child is usually baptized in the so-called baptismal hall - a small, and, accordingly, poorly lit room. In large temples, such a room is generally located in the basement of the temple. Sometimes, apart from the light of a candle and a small lamp, there is nothing else. During shooting, I use high ISO (usually from 640 to 3200) and still shoot with the flash to achieve the effect described here. Most often, I shoot with a zoom lens, it’s just more convenient than rushing with a fix, and for the reporting the artistic component is sometimes not so important. According to the reviews of my clients, I can say for sure that few people care about bokeh, volume and lens design when it comes to baptism.

To give less light pulses, in the middle of the temple you can shoot in the manual flash power control mode, while the flash will only give one impulse without trial operations. I shoot mostly with the Nikon system and can still use aperture-priority auto without TTL, while the flash will fire automatically without using test pulses. For the participants in the shooting, warn that the flash is used with a diffuser and in no way will harm the eyes of the child. When shooting at high ISOs, the flash gives a low-power flash. The only serious drawback when working with a flash is the glare from the interior of the temple. To combat glare, you just need to choose the right shooting location.

I recommend that you give away some of the material in print. Even if you agreed that the end result will be digital photos, print 2-3 of the juiciest photos in 20 * 30 format on glossy paper (this is not so expensive) and give it to the client and look at the expression on his face. Printed photography is something magical. I, even when shooting under the conditions of TFP, TFCD, try to give a couple of printed pictures. For baptism I’m making small photo books, a photo book is a great thing, think about it.

When shooting a baptism, I do not sign a contract and very rarely meet with the customer before shooting. Usually a meeting is held only if the shooting requirements are very high and the customer wants to see a printed version of the portfolio and more examples of photos than shown on my website. When meeting or by phone / mail / chat, it is imperative to specify the time of the beginning of the ceremony and the venue, dates of delivery of the material, whether the layout of the book will be checked before printing, etc.

Many people still want to film the preparation of the baby at home. I don't like this, because filming there is only 5-10 minutes, while you need to go to the client's home and hang around there for 1-2 hours. Moreover, for a photo book, you don't want to mix shots in the house with shots in a temple or restaurant - baptism is a business carried out exclusively in religious places and nowhere else. The child will still be undressed and dressed in the temple, at this moment you can just catch the necessary frames. Of course, if the client insists, we will shoot both at home and in a restaurant (but - for a fee;)).

It often happens that after the baptism of a child with his mother is taken home, and the whole fun company goes nervous Ray celebrate in some noisy establishment. At the same time, footage from the celebration may not be associated with baptism at all. Believe me, I've seen this before! True, usually everything is more mundane, and in the restaurant guests are waiting for people who did not get to the temple for the ceremony. You need to take general pictures with these guests, shoot the overall atmosphere of the room, after which you can take your leave and go home. I do not recommend staying too long at a celebration in a restaurant, one hour is enough to shoot everything you need. Celebrations in a restaurant are usually held without a host (a.k.a. toastmaster or master of ceremonies), so you will need to organize the 'whole fun crowd' yourself. After the end of the shooting, I will definitely notify you about the time frame for which the photos or the layout of the book will be ready. Usually, as soon as the restaurant finds out that the photographer has done his job and leaves, the bustle begins and exclamations “take a picture of me with your godfather Vasya”, you have to stay for a few more minutes and “finish off all the suffering”.

Usually people ask in no case anywhere to publish photos from baptism and you can’t disagree with them, so it’s extremely difficult to choose something to publish on the site.

Of the specific nuances of shooting baptism, I want to note the fact that young children have a rather unusual skin tone, with a lot of spots. After shooting, you have to conjure for a very long time to make an acceptable "skin tone". And even worse, the skin in newborns is not at all similar in shade to the shades of an adult.

In conclusion, I want to talk about the fact that sometimes shooting baptism is very exhausting, the main reason for this is the crying of the child during the ceremony. In some churches, baptism is carried out immediately for two or more couples. Listen to a whole choir of crying children for 30 minutes, namely, the standard baptismal ceremony lasts so long, sometimes very, very difficult.

You can see the package of services that I offer for photographing the baptism of a child at the link http://www.wedding-photographer.tv/gallerys/photoset-04/krestiny-photo-price.html. Photo reports from the filming of the christening can be viewed on my blog here.

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Comments: 136, on the topic: How to photograph the baptism of a child.

  • Dim

    I also think that it is low to baptize a child without his direct consent.
    And the photos are good for the poor lighting of the temple, some of the unsubscribing apparently never took pictures in such conditions.
    Thank you very much for the work.

  • Marat

    Arkady how many photos to give to customers?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      I am always a little annoyed by questions about the number of photos. Taking photos is a very delicate thing and it is not always easy to set a strict number of photos at the output. But you can talk about a range of “from and to”, for example, for baptism I give from 50 to 200 photos in electronic form. For the “standard” baptism itself, described in the article, 200-300 original photographs are produced. What can be strictly stipulated is the number of sheets or spreads in a photobook or album.

  • Vladimir

    I really liked the second picture in the article and at the same time surprised. I was surprised by the parameters of the photo. A camera with a cropped matrix, an 80 mm lens on it, and a shutter speed of 1/60. How could such an excellent, clear photo be obtained, despite the fact that children, as a rule, cannot remain motionless for a long time ...

    • Arkady Shapoval

      1/60 normal shutter speed, 80mm is quite manageable.

  • anonym

    Good article

  • Lyudmila

    Thank you, very affordable, and most importantly, right. I will definitely use your advice.

  • Jema

    Arkady, thank you for sharing :) I have been reading your site for a long time, but as an amateur I periodically forget something and come in to refresh important points :)
    Tomorrow, the shooting of the nephew is just ahead, and special thanks to you for reminding me what are the key points for taking pictures! :)
    You really helped out :)

  • alexey_laa

    Here I came across an interesting "Collection of photographs of the church from Pavel Mokritsky": http://wikilovesmonuments.org.ua/posibnyk/

  • Eugene

    Thank you very much for the young fighter course! I had to be the main photographer at christenings (for the first time), and I had no room for mistakes. The article helped a lot to correctly assess the shooting conditions, weigh the pros and cons, and in the end - make the right decision. Thanks!!!

  • Sergei

    Arkady, thanks for the article. I’ve been making baptisms and marriages in our church for 14 years. Few people understand how difficult it is to remove the sacrament, many critics make masters who have no idea about the rules of shooting in the church, you will forgive them. Each church probably has its own characteristics, but you should always remember that this TEMPLE, not a tavern A little baptismal koment is a MYSTERY, other definitions do not fit TODAY I FIRST TIME FOUND ON YOUR SITE, but I think that it will be for me like a reference book for all occasions

  • Hope

    Please tell me .. there are 18-55 and 50 1,8 lenses, and an external flash, what should I bring to the church for the baptism of a child? I will be glad to any advice, I have never photographed there ((

    • Saintleg

      Hope, if possible, I would look at the lighting conditions in the room. for example, in our church good lighting, in principle, you can do without a flash, but 50 1,8 is more acceptable, in my opinion

    • Lynx

      I think to take both, but it’s preferable to try a half without flash, although part of the frames still fail.

  • Hope

    I found only two photo lighting there is not enough

  • Saintleg

    in any case, they used the flash, just to muffle it, and the painting on the far wall, illuminated by light from the window, will be more noticeable. take both glasses and puff, and try to take a few test shots (in any way, everyone will push around for 10-20 minutes before starting), at the same time and look good angles.

  • Hope

    I used puff and 50 1.8, it would have seemed like normal, but only when I put on a reflector (I made it from photo paper), I got some dark ones, I can’t attach the photo (((

  • Saintleg

    Hope filmed in RAV? stretch out. on which aperture were filmed? fifty dollars focuses normally ?? there is something abnormal with mine ((((on f1.8 it’s almost impossible to get into focus. in a room with a searchlight there’s a puff of back-focus

    • Hope

      no, I shot it in jpeg, the aperture was like 3,5-4, but I only took a fifty-fifty photograph, out of 200 photographs, two are not in focus, but I think it was my mistake when shooting. Yes, there were only 6 of us there))) maybe it sang to everybody))) 18-55 could be put on, only so that in the middle of the whole church covered, but fifty dollars was enough))

  • Radda

    Please write a couple of tips on how to shoot without a flash. What settings to put. I have a d300 35mm lens. F1.8

    • Alexey

      Glad, you need to compromise and choose a middle ground in the settings.
      From experience with d7000 and 35 / 1,8 dx, I can name the settings for this bundle:
      ISO - no more than 1600 (higher - unacceptable noise), f not wider than 2,8 (1,8-2,5 give terrible aberrations and blurring), speed - depending on the first two parameters, preferably not higher than 1/100, better 1/160 to avoid smearing.
      But in the case of the d300, the settings may be slightly different.
      So, as far as I understand, the noise on the devices of the d300 generation is higher, and it is no longer necessary to lift the ISO above 800.
      On the other hand, its matrix is ​​not as small as the d7000, which means you can keep the shutter speed a little longer without fear of blur.
      Try something like this:
      Mode "A", F 2.8
      Maximum ISO 800.

  • Alexey

    Dear Arkady, thanks for the article.
    You have a very interesting site.
    Also I am impressed by your intelligent exposure to the appearance of (alas) boorish posts.

    As for shooting in churches, I am a supporter of NOT using flash.
    Indeed, the atmosphere is killing.
    Probably the best option is full + 24-70 / 2,8, but I don't have this lens. I use d800 + 85 / 1,4 G and d7000 + 35 / 1,8 DX or 14 / 2,8.
    Also pleasantly surprised by your sharp photos at a shutter speed of 1/60. Were they filmed in series? I myself try to use no longer than 1/100 - I shoot in the “Q” mode, so as not to make unnecessary sounds.
    Best regards,
    Alexey

  • Alexey

    Example photo d800 + 85 / 1,4 G (1/250, f2,8, ISO 1250)

    • Archie

      Was it light, I suppose?

      • anonym

        As you can see from the parameters of the exposition ... Everything is relative ... A large temple with high windows.

  • Julia

    Thank you so much for this article! Today was the first time I photographed Baptism! Everything was exactly as you wrote! Since I knew, it was very easy to navigate! Thanks!

  • Elena

    Thank you very much for your work. I learned a lot of nuances from the shooting of this sacrament. You write very well, figuratively, artistically, the pictures are also expressive, artistic and simply wonderful. God grant more such good people and professionals like you. I wish you success in your future work, and more clients.

  • Vitaliy U

    And here is a question: no one used a bunch of 28-105 3,5-5,5 + d700 when shooting in the church (in my case, the wedding)? I do not have a brighter zoom (80-200 2,8 in the church is not an option), but with 50 1,8G, I'm afraid I will not be in time for everything. I rule out the outbreak, the temple is not very dark. What do you say, camarads?

    • Lynx

      There are chances, but there will be a lot of misses and iso too, so shoot with refocusing.

    • Peter Sh.

      Why is 80-200 in the church not an option? Is the church small? With it you will get much more suitable shots.

      • Lynx

        Have you ever tried to shoot something on a telephoto camera in a crowd, in a tiny room by the standards of photographers? this is not a gym, you will not be allowed to climb the wall in order to “remove from the outside and better”.
        The entire maneuver of the photographer is limited to 2-3 meters.

  • Timur

    Dear Vitaliy! From 28-105 it will be difficult without a flash. See for yourself, Arkady himself just took a photo in the church with such a lens, and all with a flash. I have exactly the same camera and the same lens and in the room they can only be shot with a flash.

  • Vitaliy U

    Thanks guys! In principle, I was also inclined towards 50k, but I wanted to “be creative” with w / y. I'll drop into a church with a camera, see what the metering says, and I'll decide there. Thanks again for your feedback!

  • Vladimir

    Thank you very much for the interesting and very useful article! Having an idea of ​​this sacrament and using your advice, I managed to completely photograph the process of baptism of our baby! Good luck and new creative success to you!)

  • for

    Good afternoon, Arkady!
    And can the theme of the flash be revealed in more detail?
    Where did they go, which light modifiers used? Softbox, or puffing up + reflector?

  • Natalia

    Hello!
    Thanks for such a useful article!
    I have to shoot the first baptism soon - I want at least something to work out.
    Tell me, I don't have an external flash, a nikon d5100 camera and 2 lenses - a kit 18-105 and a fixed 50 f1.8 - which is better to take with me?
    And can you tell me the settings?
    Thank you in advance!

    • BB

      Everything very much depends on the shooting conditions: how big is the room, and how much light is there?
      With fifty dollars you can shoot at a wider aperture, but if the room is cramped, then a few people simply won't 'fit' into the frame.
      From 18-105, of course, it will be more convenient, but will you have an acceptable ISO (maximum 5100 for the D2000, better up to 1200-1600) and an acceptable exposure time?

      • Natalia

        Thank you for such a prompt reply!
        Tomorrow I will know what the premises will be there.
        I am afraid of this - that if you shoot a fifty-kopeck piece, there will be little space, but for 18-105 there may not be enough light….

        • brighty

          If you do not have an external flash, and there will be little light, try using the on-camera flash, just wrap it with white paper (printer), one layer will be enough. So you get some kind of diffuser and the light from the flash will be softer and glare on the faces can be avoided. Good luck.

          • Natalia

            Thanks for the advice!
            Unfortunately, an external flash has not yet acquired.
            And I have a diffuser for the on-camera flash, you can try it like that.
            Are you talking about the option if you use a non-fast lens?

    • Pastor

      I would have taken both anyway. General plans for 18mm with a stub can be removed even in a very dark room, but the movement will have to be filmed with high-aperture glass. I would set the auto-ISO and set the exposure compensation to minus to reduce the shutter speed. Moreover, the exposure meter is not aware that the shooting is carried out in a dark room and will try to make the picture bright, and in theory, in the church, there is often not enough light and too light photographs may not fully reflect reality. I would shoot on aperture priority, but keep an eye on the shutter speed. My experience suggests that in some cases (when there is little movement), it is much more useful to have a whale lens with a wide angle and a stub with you than a narrow light prime. But for beautiful portrait shots, for blurring and shooting fast motion, you will have to wear a fix. With fix, you will also have to monitor the shutter speed (better 1/100, or 1/80, 1/50 can already give blur). And also, it is better to take as many frames as possible (it is possible to turn on the silent operation of the shutter if it is too loud). Shaking can ruin many of the footage, so it's best to have as much source material as possible. And it's better to shoot in equal terms - there is more opportunity to make the image brighter. In any case, when choosing whether to take a photo with a blur or a dark one, it is always better to choose the second one, because the blur cannot be corrected in any way, and it is quite possible to do something with a dark image.

      • Natalia

        Thank you very much for your advice!!!
        If I understood you correctly, then you are advised to shoot in aperture priority mode with exposure compensation minus. - and this is for a Kitovsky lens?
        To be honest, it's more comfortable for me to shoot with Kitovsky - I studied on it, but I just bought a fix on the weekend and haven't gotten used to it yet.
        Yes, I agree, it’s better to shoot more so that there is plenty to choose from. And of course I shoot in raw))

        And as for the white balance - is it better not to touch it and then fix it in Photoshop?
        Silent shutter operation ?? Wow - this is news for me, I'll go read if it can be done on my camera….
        Thanks again !!!!

        • Pastor

          On the d5100 there is a silent shutter, if my memory serves me right. White balance can then be edited in the editor, put the car in and then correct it if that. If it is more comfortable with a whale, then shoot more with it. But still, at least a number of subjects should be tried to remove at 50mm. Well, while there is more time, practice in places similar in lighting. Then look at the computer for the result, draw conclusions and change something in your approach :)

          • Natalia

            Yes, I read it on the Internet and found where to remove the shutter sound (but it works only when focusing, the shutter itself works just as loudly). So, in principle, I hope that during baptism it will not be completely quiet, so that the sound of the shutter does not hit the ears too much))
            There is practically no time to train - I shoot this Saturday.
            There was an idea tomorrow to drive up to this church and ask to try, but something seems to me that this will not work.
            Can you tell me which moment is the most important - I will try to capture it with a fix.
            In general, we were told in the courses that we don’t have to run around the church in search of a good angle — such events are usually shot to the right or left of the priest, sometimes you can move a little.

            Thank you again !! It is so nice that you can get such a useful consultation)))

            • Pastor

              Much depends on the priest. Some do not allow anything at all, and some allow at least to walk throughout the church and even work with a flash. It all depends on the priest :) Well, during baptism, the most interesting moment is dipping into the font, as for me. And it could be removed for fixing, but one must be one hundred percent sure that there will be no lubrication. Even if the picture is a little darker, if only not to blur. So the camera is in M, the shutter speed is 1/100, iso on auto (even if at least 3200, the noise is not as terrible as blur) and the aperture is 1.8. Then you can pull it out if it comes out a little dark.
              Regarding the shutter sound:
              “The shooting modes (more precisely, the shutter modes) are as follows for the d5100: normal Single frame shooting, Continuous (it is also continuous, at a speed of up to 4 frames / sec), Self-timer (delay of 10 seconds), Shutter release using the remote control (and a delay 2 sec), the same Remote control release without delay, and the "Q" (Quiet Shutter) mode, in which the autofocus confirmation sound is muted, and the mirror does not go down if you hold down the shutter button after taking a picture - this way you can minimize the camera noise when the situation calls for it. "

              • Natalia

                Hello!
                My shooting has already passed - of course, not at all as I expected.

                After some ceremony over mothers (relatives), the priest explained where one can go and where it is undesirable. But at the very beginning, until he himself gave permission, no one dared to get a camera.
                I still took 2 lenses with me (and periodically tried to change them). The church was small - and 4 cubs were baptized. In fact, it was possible to shoot only to the right or to the left of the priest. my girlfriend stood in the center - then practically the entire baptism was blocked by other couples.
                And the process itself went so quickly…. for myself, I directly printed out all the action from here in order to better navigate, but in fact - before I had time to change my mind, it was all over.
                But I managed to capture 1 photo in the font)
                I corrected a couple of photos in the convention - my friend liked it.

                Thank you for the advice) opened me an auto ISO)

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