Impressions of the Canon EOS 1200D

According provided by camera Canon EOS 1200D (aka T5, X70) body many thanks to the official representative of Canon in Ukraine.

Canon EOS 1200D review

Canon EOS 1200D without a lens (Canon 1200D body option)

Canon EOS 1200D is a very simple but good amateur SLR camera, was introduced in February 2014 and became the third model in Canon's line of the simplest digital SLR cameras. This line includes Canon 1000D, 1100D and the Canon 1200D from this review.

Canon EOS 1200D

Canon EOS 1200D

In this case, 'simple' does not mean bad. The Canon 1200D has pretty much everything to take great shots! In addition, the camera uses a matrix on 17.9 MP, which for the first time (in 2009) could be found in a very productive camera - Canon 7D. Five years later, Canon decided to install a matrix from the legendary "seven" in one of the simplest cameras. If we discard all the pixel-by-pixel comparisons of spherical aberrations in a vacuum, we can say that the image quality for amateur shooting with Canon 5D will be no worse than with Canon 1200D cameras. 550D, 600D, 60D which are supposed to use the same matrix. If you do not take into account the updated processor, which allows for cameras Canon 650D, 700D и 100D If you use higher ISOs, then at low and medium ISOs, the last three cameras will produce an image very similar to the Canon 1200D. I do not extol the Canon 1200D baby, rather, I just emphasize once again the fact that the latest amateur Canon cameras use modifications of the same matrix, and to be honest, after Canon 700D I do not see any difference in the picture between it and the Canon 1200D (synthetic tests confirm this).

Canon EOS 1200D

Canon EOS 1200D

Canon EOS 1200D can use ISO range from 100 to 6400 units. In the Custom Functions 'C.Fn' menu, the ISO range can be expanded to an 'H' value equivalent to ISO 12.800. If Highlight Priority is enabled in Custom Functions 'C.Fn' menu, the minimum ISO that can be selected is 200 and ISO 'H' is no longer enabled.

The camera has an automatic ISO function that can be turned on / off and set the maximum allowable light sensitivity. It's funny, but even if you select a maximum ISO threshold of 6400 units, the camera will use a range of only 100 to 3200 units when shooting video. To shoot video at ISO 6400, you need to set manual control in the menu excerpts... ISO 'H' not available when shooting video :(.

In amateur cameras, I don't like the fact that the ISO value changes in steps, that is, you can choose values ​​of 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400, H (12.800) and no others. The same is true for the auto ISO function, however, the maximum threshold for auto ISO is 6400 and you cannot select ISO 'H'. If you do not bother shooting in the ISO range from 3200 to 12.800, then you can get a completely usable result.

Here's what I noticed interesting: the first camera of this level - Canon 1000D had a range of photosensitivity 100-1600 (without the possibility of expansion), the second model - Canon 1100D had a range of 100-6400 (without expandability). As a result, the second model exceeded the first one 4 (!) Times (if you compare the limit value of ISO 1600 and ISO 6400), which undoubtedly is an indicator of the growth of capabilities. But the Canon 1200D in terms of ISO is practically nowhere to go Canon 1100D... The Canon 1200D still uses the 100-6400 range and as some consolation we got the option to use ISO 'H' (ISO 12.800 equivalent). However, it cannot be used for videos or photos, using the 'Auto ISO' function, or when the 'Highlight priority' function is enabled. Where is the world heading?

Canon EOS 1200D

Canon EOS 1200D

The buffer with all disabled additional functions contains:

  • about 7 frames in RAW format, while in JVI the buffer exponent is 4 frames.
  • 2 frames in JPEG L format, while the camera after the first two frames makes a small delay and then continues to shoot 2 frames with small delays.
  • 2 frames in RAW + JPEG L format, then the camera waits for data to be recorded on the card.

The number of frames in a burst with 'enhancers' disabled will greatly depend on the card used when shooting.

A buffer with all additional functions enabled contains:

  • about 5 frames in RAW format, while in JVI the buffer exponent is 4 frames.
  • 2 frames in JPEG L format, after which the camera makes a fairly long delay.
  • 2 frames in RAW + JPEG L format, then the camera waits for data to be recorded on the card.

The number of frames in a series with the 'enhancers' enabled practically does not depend on the card used, since the camera spends CPU time on improving the images.

Considering that the 1200D is designed for amateurs who will shoot in JPEG format with all the enhancements enabled by default, and who are trying to get good results right away, then the burst shooting limited to 2 shots is not so bad ... who am I kidding my ten year old Canon 350D with all the improvements puts in the buffer at least 9 shots!

Camera control is very similar to the control of a huge number of other Canon EOS cameras, if you get used to it and you can control the camera quickly and comfortably.

Canon EOS 1200D weighs just 73 grams more than the lightest model Canon 100D and ranks second in lightness. When working with a more or less serious, heavy lens, I did not feel any difference at all between the lightest 'hundred' and the Canon 1200D. Also, I didn’t notice any difference in size between the weave and Canon 1200D, although the weaving is 12.8 mm less in length, 9 mm in width and 8.5 mm in height.

Canon EOS 1200D with Helios-81H 2/50 MS lens

Canon EOS 1200D with lens MS Helios-81H 2/50

In normal shooting mode, the Canon 1200D uses 9-point focusing with a cross-shaped center point. The camera inherited this focusing module from the previous model - Canon 1100D. Such a focusing module is used only by these two cameras. You can read more about the focusing modules for Canon cameras. here. Of course, you can focus on using the camera display.

3-inch camera display at 460.000 pixels. The number of dots on the display is noticeably less than all cameras, starting with the model Canon 500D (where there are about 920.000). Nevertheless, the display is pleasant - there are no inconveniences when viewing photos and navigating through menus.

Canon EOS 1200D uses a 63-zone metering sensor exposure with dual layer SPC and iFCL, exactly the same as on almost all Canon EOS cameras from the Canon 7D. More details about this in the section 'Canon CCD Exposure Sensors'. Canon 1200D, like all other Canon cameras, can meter exposure with any manual lens, so for the review I used a fast Soviet prime lens MS Helios-81H 2/50, the lack of automatic focusing on which helped to detect the presence of the Live View function with a 5 and 10-fold increase in the selected area.

Canon EOS 1200D with Sigma 50-150mm 1: 2.8 APO DC HSM EX

Canon EOS 1200D with lens Sigma 50-150mm 1: 2.8 APO DC HSM EX

Of course, as befits a pretty modern SLR camera, the Canon EOS 1200D can shoot Full HD video. You can select one of the quality options: 1920 × 1080 25fps, 1920 × 1080 24fps, 1280 × 720 50fps, 640 × 480 25fps, 1920 × 1080 30fps, 1920 × 1080 24fps, 1280 × 720 60fps, 640 × 480 30fps. Shutter speed and aperture can be changed during movie shooting, and ISO sensitivity can be automatically controlled.

Canon EOS 1200D is usually sold with a simple universal lens. Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS II. Finding a camera without a lens (only the body) is not so simple, but if you don’t want to get in touch with the simplest lens of the 18-55 / 3,5-5,6 class, then I recommend looking at a fairly good universal lens Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-135mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM.

Here link to the archive with the originals - 1.17 GB, 53 photos in CR2 format (RAW) Photos were taken using lenses Canon Macro Lens EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM, MS Helios-81H 2/50 and flashes Nikon Speedlight SB-900 и Metz Mecablitz 48AF-1. You can find more examples of photos on the Canon EOS 1200D in the lens review Nikon Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.4.

Prices for modern Canon cameras in popular stores can look at this link.

In comments Can I ask you a question on the topic and you will answer, and you can also express your opinion or describe your experience. Many little things for a photo can be found on AliExpress.


Results

In many ways, the Canon EOS 1200D is very similar to many of its brothers, with the same uncomplicated menus and basic functions (such as matrix cleaning and creative filters). Personally, I believe that the Canon 1200D turned out to be a very well-balanced, unpretentious and inexpensive camera. Unlike Canon 1100D, the video has been brought to mind, the problem of reducing the speed of burst shooting in RAW format has been resolved and various little things have been added or improved. If you are tormented by the pangs of choice, maybe amateur camera selection section :).

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Comments: 187, on the topic: Impressions of the Canon EOS 1200D

  • Jackie

    Arkady, tell me, if you’re not lazy, here you write: “In amateur cameras I don’t like that the ISO value changes in steps, that is, you can choose the values ​​100…”; but on professional ones, how does it happen, half a step, or did you just mean that here the automation does not select intermediate values ​​for the “Auto-ISO” function?
    PS It’s a pity that you were not able to equip the girls with a brunette :)

    • Arkady Shapoval

      On more advanced cameras, you can manually select intermediate values ​​such as ISO 125, 160, 250, 320, 1250, etc. The difference in stops is already a lot. 1200D in auto-iso mode can just pick up these values ​​on its own (I had a couple of shots on ISO 500, 1250 and 4000).

      • Victorion

        In the Canon 1100D, the camera also selects intermediate ISO values ​​in auto-ISO. This is so, note. =)

  • sergey

    thanks for the great review, I have one question of the girls you also shot on helios in jpg without further processing

    • Arkady Shapoval

      The girls were shot with Canon Macro Lens EF 100mm 1: 2.8 L IS USM, and I want to note that when focusing on the side points with this lens, the 1200d camera has a clear front focus, so a lot of shots at F / 2.8 went to the basket, even on examples have focus “undershooting”. When I determined this, shooting continued through Live View.

  • sergey

    Sorry, I didn’t finish reading a bit (I myself found the answer to my question)

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In the photo below, EXIF ​​data is imprinted, clearly Helios does not have a 100mm focal length :)

  • Andrei

    Arkady, thanks for the next review. I have a small question, why was the portrait shooting in the presented photos macro objective and all kinds of flowers and vegetation close-up with helios?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      It's simple, Helios does not have autofocus.

  • Andrei

    And if it's not a secret, then in the picture (in the portrait genre) give preference to helios or go to the macro cell?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      I will give preference to makrik because of a narrower perspective and proportions in the frame.

  • sergey

    A wonderful camera for non-autofocus lenses, I myself am the owner of 1100d, I really like the picture of manual lenses. Although there were no problems with the back, the front focus on tamron 28-75 2.8 was not (I do not use the whale).

    • Alexey

      I have the same camera / lens bundle, but I just can’t normally get into focus on the open aperture, especially when the frame is upright. Am I a handshake? :(

  • sergey

    Ark watched the evangelion. Thanks for the tip. Rei is clearly embarrassed! :-)

    • Arkady Shapoval

      in rebuild or in the original?

  • sergey

    In original. All 26 episodes. Very cool ... ..

    • Arkady Shapoval

      that's wonderful, and I'm waiting for the 4th edition rebuildThey say it will be released in 2015.

      • sergey

        Will wait! :( I want sechassssss ...… ..

      • Yarkiya

        Of course, I'm wildly sorry. Are you really watching this? By myself I’m not in the subject, probably the old one already, but maybe there is some kind of hidden meaning there? I don’t laugh, honestly, I just don’t catch up.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Classic anime :) you can see it.

          • anonym

            My opinion is that watching this nonsense is a bad manners for a serious, educated person. I believe that the word classic should be used very carefully. Otherwise, you can agree that telepuziki is also a classic. And then DOM-2 will become a classic.)

            • Arkady Shapoval

              and there it is clearly indicated to me that the word refers to anime, it’s just more attentive :)

            • Yarkiya

              It seems that one should not be so categorical, you never know what someone likes today. And the concept of "classic of the genre" seems to be a premium to any established phenomenon. The main thing here is to try to understand the essence, the meaning of this phenomenon. I honestly watched a couple of episodes, but alas, I did not like it. Although a few years ago I enjoyed watching the Japanese “fairytale cinema” “Azumi”. In general, the taste and color ...

              • Igor S.

                I got hooked on an animeshka after Trigan :-)

        • Ivan

          Very cute offtopic!
          I also tried to watch, and from Japanese animation, the only thing that I succeeded in, and with pleasure, is the films of Hayao Miyazaki, as well as the TV series BECK.

          • Lynx

            Cowboy Bebop is waiting for you!

            • Arkady Shapoval

              +1

  • anonym

    Nikon D3100 is also worth it, and it’s much more pleasant to hold in your hands than plastic toys and functions and a little more buffer

    • Yarkiya

      Perhaps I will object, the Nikon D3100 is an order of magnitude cheaper, one price only if the D3100 with a whale of 18-55. 1200d costs $ 500 a body, and 3100 360 $.

      • Vadim

        I will object to you - Nikon d3100 is cheaper solely because it has two heirs, but in comparison of characteristics Nikon 2010 is morally superior to Canon 2014, first of all in the low noise of the matrix.

        • Dmitriy

          My 5 cents.
          I think that the 1200D is expensive. It’s better to buy a 600D, it costs only 2-3 thousand more (at least in our city), but it can do more.

          • Paul

            Dmitry, what kind of city where 600d is only a couple of thousand more expensive than 1200d?

  • sergey

    I looked at the prices of canon 1200d. very upset, for a novice photographer, the price is high. I would take Kenon 5d. Full frame is a class. It’s better to start with full-size cameras (my opinion).

    • anonym

      I would also take 5d, I remember in those years I thought: you only need to take a new one, otherwise it will break and so on

    • Do_Oraemon

      Yeah, the nickel has a price for a beginner just right))) If you take used, then you can find relatively fresh models for a more reasonable price. And the concept of "novice photographer" is very loose. Starting from the “shooters” of cats / carpets / own feet to really interested in the phenomenon of photography of individuals. So, in the first case, the human FF-carcasses did not bite at all. You understand that the specifics of these cameras are such that without cutting the hollow with its functionality and getting absolutely shitty pictures (the “make beautiful” button is absent as a class), in a month he will merge it at the same auction. And for those who want to think with their own head - he is at 1200D and will not bite. Not that coat.

      • sergey

        If a person is going to buy a DSLR and photograph more or less seriously, then 5d is just right. If a person needs an auto cut, let him look for a compact, or superzuma ... Arkady thanks for the answers and the time spent. PS Ray smiled.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          Smiled :)

        • Do_Oraemon

          Well, the wedge light on the penny did not converge. There are models from other manufacturers. For the first time, a carcass can be taken cheaper and then sold. Buy full-length glasses - there will be happiness and a reserve for a long time. And not like most of us do here - buy a tricked carcass and the most shitty darkest zoom (there is not enough money for normal glass, but use “zapadlo” to fix it). Immediately with a nickle to go after the digital dust bin is pretty bold. "Grow up" a little need the photographer himself to such a camera. And if a person is going to seriously engage in photography and buy a DSLR, he will not listen to you and me - he will go through forums and photo blogs and pick up the camera himself - without snot. To fit your needs.

  • sergey

    Ark you will pass from 5d to 5d mark 3. Hang down !!! Cool device.

  • Jury

    A flash with a yellow filter?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      White balance shadow or cloudy.

  • Ronin427

    I read ... We sit further on the 350D. =)))

  • Oleg R

    Helios's shots are very good! And the last shot is wonderful!

  • anonym

    I don’t know, maybe it seemed but the dynamic range is rather weak in this instance. And I didn’t really like the white balance. Maybe 100 more is somehow to blame, with helios more interesting pictures.

  • Amatich

    Canon only has a good video ...

    • R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№

      +5

  • Amonim

    Thanks for the review!
    Nice, nice camera without burst function (based on the given data on the buffer). What's the catch / mystery of better RAW file storage?
    The entry-level Nikon looks a little more interesting in this setting.

  • anonym

    Our canon is in heaven, nikon is in the heathens and be famous for dormouse! May you be fully charged, bypassing the dust on the matrix. Save the photographer, your slave, from the carpets in the frame, from the monuments and “witnesses”, from the bad torpedo soldier. Save and avoid chromatic aberration, obvious distortion and soapy glass. Let the front focuses and back focuses on fixes leave us, but if they come from the devil, so let your firmweir let you remove them with the software function.
    Let the photographer’s shots be only with the right composition, keep the yago from sin of non-observance of the golden ratio, but whoever commits it, then only with good intent and for good reason.
    Keep your slave from the flash of the inner yes into the outer forehead. Give him the understanding to treat her, but it is better to let the light be on display, and from the noise of strong people like me.
    In the name of shutter speed, aperture, and exposure, get off!

    • Yarkiya

      Amen!
      And by the way, what does the abbreviation EOS mean, or is it not an abbreviation?
      Well, except for the ancient Greek epic.

      • anonym

        electrical optical system)))

    • Oleg

      + 100500!!!
      The most significant offtopic among bright thoughts

    • Jackie

      Madness ... but credit! :) It is necessary to add “do not lead us into the temptation of a selfie in silver-plated mirrors and take a picture”.

    • Maksim

      Descho blasphemy yak on me ...

      • Oleg

        Maxim, this is just an ironic banter on the topic of what pent up many people involved in photography. And I think that the author of this pearl in no way wanted to offend the interests of believers.

        • Maksim

          I’m rosum, it’s just that I don’t have warto jartuvati with such speeches.

    • varezhkin

      Wow :)

  • Yuriy75

    In a couple of years there will be a good option when prices settle down.

  • Pastor

    If a person is already versed in photography and this is not the first device, then even with a budget of 15 thousand there are several much more interesting options. For example, nikon d80 - excellent colors even in a Jepeg, an additional screen, a screwdriver and a more grippy body - all the pleasure for 5-7 thousand. Of the canons, there are 40d and 50d, which also cost less than 15, but in addition to screens and more convenient control, they also give such advantages as in-camera adjustment and dust and moisture protection, plus an insane shooting speed. Yes, on all these models the screen is smaller and, possibly, the high ISOs are a little noisier, but in my opinion, their advantages override these minor disadvantages - a tribute to the times. On the other hand, for a beginner who wants to take a new device, this is a great option.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      for Canon, a screwdriver is not essential. Beginners now often want a video :)

    • Kotofalk

      In 40D there is no alignment.

    • Yuriy75

      after 20D after six months of use (although I shot 4000, but a total of 50000), I’ll never take a used carcass in life, repairmen only take 300 grams for diagnosis. plus the shutter price of 150 cu just runs into a brand new 1200D or slightly adding 600D.

  • Igor S.

    Portraits shot with a flash on the camera? Without umbrellas and other things?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      There are two flashes, she remotely, the second on the camera.

  • Dmitriy

    Arkady, good afternoon.
    I chose not so long ago between Nikon and Canon younger models.
    And at Nikon, I am confused by the presence of excess blue in photographs (D3100, D5100, D90 models), and this is also evident from the histogram. Canon (1100D, 600D, 650D) has more natural color reproduction.
    What can you say about this?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Yes, sometimes you can find such flaws.

      • Dmitriy

        So, is this an innate feature of the camera?

        • Sandy

          Somewhere on the Internet there was an article by a canonist who switched to Nikon, but then returned back (though due to Zelentsy skin tones). I do not know how objective the article is, I had no business with Nikon. Here is the article itself with the permission of Arkady http://stelmakh.com/backstage/?p=8431

          • Dmitriy

            I read it, very informative)) yes, there is a speech that Nikon is green, but there it is a full-frame, but on the "crop" it is blue (not only for me).

            • Dmitry K

              shift the white balance in warm tones and never raise this topic in a decent society again

              • Dmitriy

                ??
                Why then does the BB work so incorrectly? On several models at once (D3100, D5100, D90)?

              • Oleg

                BB on different models misses in different ways. On the D5100, erysipelas are constantly carrot-red, I would even say they turn alcoholic. On the D3100, a skinton with a purple-earthen hue, the photo shows either a dead man or a doll. The D90 simply turns green in good light, or it shades blue in difficult lighting conditions.
                But all this happens in the auto settings. But the very essence of such a technique lies in the fact that its owner has elementary knowledge in photography as a whole and in working with light and color in the above privacy. Again, no one forbids experimenting. Yes, and a whole bunch of post-processing tools

              • Yarkiya

                How unlucky you are to run into defective carcasses. Forgive me, you make the impression of kenonists, walking like subtly trolling owners of nikon on the Pronon site.
                Therefore, arguably answer you, apparently not worth it.

              • Arkady Shapoval

                This is not a Pronon site, if we are talking about Radozhivka) As for problems with the transmission of skin color, it is mainly associated with the conversion of RAW by non-native utilities. I note that the matrix from d3100 was used only in this one chamber, which is a rarity for the camera industry, apparently, there was something wrong there.

          • Sergei

            It would be better if this gentleman checked his eyesight. The color rendition changes with age - the lens becomes cloudy and turns yellow.

  • Yarkiya

    I agree, "penetrationist", the wording is not beautiful, and for this it is removed. But how would you characterize a resource with 130 articles on Nikon versus 42 on Canon?
    Regarding shooting "faces", if you shoot portraits in jpeg with vivid settings, is it any wonder that even a slight blush turns into a burn. But to blame the camera for this, sorry, not sporting.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      yes, it's very simple - send the canon for a review, and for fanatics, I provide cognitive dissonance in a live form - https://radojuva.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/nikon-canon.jpg

      • Yarkiya

        Well what are you, is this cognitive dissonance? :) It is rather harmony :). Real cognitive dissonance is when it's the other way around;)))

        • Arkady Shapoval

          By the way, most of the reviews are not Nikon or Kenon, but Soviet optics :) so most likely Radozhivka is a pro-Soviet site :)

          • Yarkiya

            I felt that you say so :). Well, let it be pro-Soviet, although Soviet optics is represented by different manufacturers. If you already generalize this way, then Radozhiva is a pro-capitalist site! :)))

            • Arkady Shapoval

              Ray is not happy with such jokes.

          • sergey

            This site is international …… .. Ark. good luck, new tests and testable ones ... ..

      • Jury

        Arkady, what is the diameter of the filter on this lens? There is no review of it :)

        • Arkady Shapoval

          72 mm

          • Jury

            A beautiful lens, and on Canon it looks like a native :)

            • sergey

              On kenon I really like the nikkor 2.5 105 mm - manual lens. Portraits are just class. Plastic drawing, sharpness, smoothness of work. So take nikkors to kenon and Rei's smile wakes you up….

    • Dmitriy

      Regarding all the messages for post-processing - of course, this is being corrected. But the very essence of the problem - why is the color rendering on the cameras incorrect?

      • Dmitry K

        I do not know what to answer, I have the correct color rendition. Why you do not like her is a question only to you. Use presets and not auto mode, shoot in the end in the end.

      • Igor S.

        Can you try to work in RPP? In the paid version, you can create a profile by colorchecker. Then you will fall into color.

      • anonym

        Dmitry. ”Incorrect color rendering” is not in the camera, but, it seems, in your head, if you do not understand the answers to your questions.

        • Dmitry K

          why have you already decided that something is not working there ?! the sense of color perception is strictly an individual medical fact. The fact that you do not like the color rendition is not a reason to say that it does not work correctly. Human vision is adaptive. I somehow rode on a bus with bluish glasses — after half an hour the colors returned to normal and I did not notice the blues. And in the window without glass I saw a pinkish world))) For all people, the conventional white point is in different color temperatures and depends on the color of the optical media of the eye. Moreover, it changes throughout the day. In Nikon cameras, the white point is closer to the cold part of the spectrum, while in Canon it is warm. If you live with color rendering from Canon for a long time, then Nikon is blue, if Canon is yellow with Nikon. It just so happened that plots with a warm color look nicer for most people, but this does not at all prove that it is correct. She is just familiar. Therefore, set the white balance as it seems right to you (it may not seem to others that way) and do not brainwash people. And if you do not want to put your hands, buy a camera with the balance you need from the box. I here suited d3100 with its balance.
          And finally, look at the reviews for ANY cameras on the Yandex market .. maybe even 1dx or d4s, you will definitely find nagging about the auto white balance. There are the same as you think that a person in the womb according to GOST is done and calibrated like a monitor. Therefore, the troll is you-talk about the same thing and shout “where is my button to create a masterpiece?” You don't want to think and twist the settings, please, just don't take out your brain with hackneyed phrases about white balance

        • anonym

          Offended Oleg. A lot of Auto you want, not wanting to “bother with a billion manual settings." For whom are they? Following your logic, the settings are for beginners, and you, a monster, want to shoot in a car.

          • Oleg

            Dear Anonymous, how can one be offended by a person who is not that he has not given his name, but has not even read to the end what he is trying to shit ???
            The bottom line is the opposite: as an amateur, I need sane autotuning in an amateur camera. I would pick up some D700, then yes. A professional level camera implies manual settings and significant intervention in the process of its operation. And your “discontent” would be justified.

  • Oleg

    Dmitry, this is a more constructive answer. Don't take it personally, there are just a lot of comments from people who have no idea about photography at all. Shit, like, "buy a soap dish" and sits satisfied, self-realized in life. Sometimes my nerves get lost.
    And not that I wouldn’t want to think at all, but in some places the process of tuning the BB is more like a dance with a tambourine. And to drag a gray card with you is not always possible, and sometimes it looks ridiculous

    • Dmitry K

      then buy what the soul lies to. The market is now clearly not empty and everyone, I am sure, will find what suits him

      • Yarkiya

        Yeah, for sure, let him buy more gray cards and lay them out everywhere, then you don’t have to carry them with you. :) Sorry, could not resist.
        One of my sons has partial color blindness, he sees colors a little differently, now he is already beginning to be interested in photography, try to explain to him that Nikon is blue, and Kenon is yellow, and I'll look at you. :))

        • Oleg

          Bright, no comment. No answer to the question, no meaning in what was written. Joked and well done

          • Dmitry K

            yes no, comment in the topic. Every 8 men have a partial lack of pigment of perception of one of the basic colors. in women, this defect is much less common. Therefore, women have peach, azure and other colors with funny names)) and for men everything is simple - it's dark, it's light. I exaggerate, of course, but the individuality of color perception is generally a poorly illuminated issue and is often tabooed by the words “color blind”. Previously, such things surfaced only at the medical institute at the reception - people with such disorders are not taken to study. And now photography has become the norm and all these issues will spill over into controversy over white balance.

            • Oleg

              Dmitry, thank you for the capacious answers. But, probably, let's close the BB topic. Let's not disturb the inquisitive minds of the guests. And so many offtopic have already been lit ...

    • Igor S.

      Oleg, when buying more advanced equipment, we have more stringent requirements for the final result. Those. shooting with a phone, a soap box - people usually take it for granted, white balance misses, low contrast, optical distortion. When buying a DSLR, the bar for photo requirements rises and it seems that before the photos were technically better, but this device often mismatches. But as soon as you look at the old photos with new requirements, it will immediately become clear that the new DSLR is not so bad, and the old images are not so good. :-)

      I agree with Dmitry K., now a large selection of photographic equipment. Maybe you will fall in love at first sight with Fujik or Sony. Or maybe the color rendition of Olympus will not leave you indifferent? And there is also a pentax, watering can, etc. If there is an opportunity to choose, then why not use it?

      • Oleg

        The choice is huge, I do not argue. But the financial component of the question limits the horizons a little. If this technique brought material exhaust, and I did it professionally, then yes. And for me, photography is just a hobby.
        But the essence of the question, why do you need auto mode, if you have to use presets, and even manually make corrections, it has not been disclosed. Sorry for importunity, best regards.

        • anonym

          Oleg, you change the system in the end and do not ask rhetorical questions here without perceiving the answers to them. Jump from Nikon if he is so bad. At the same time, save your nerves.

          • Oleg

            The fact of the matter is that Nikon suits everyone except the above BB. I tried to shoot at Canon, the ergonomics are not impressive. Although, maybe just used to Nikon. At Sony, the high cost of glass scares. For Pentax optics autofocus FIG you will find in our backwoods. Sigma is really exotic. Fuji s5 is a very interesting option, but taking it with a range of under 100k is somehow doubtful, but fresher is like the new d90

            • Dmitry K

              then take the canon. The best ergonomics is the usual ergonomics, as one of the members of the forum said. Get used to it.

            • Jury

              Oleg, there is only one way out - to take pictures and work in Lightroom (or other software). It is better not to use Nikon's native software - the possibilities are completely different with Lightroom. There are good video tutorials on Lightroom. The BB is a very subjective matter, setting it up on the camera and shooting it is a lottery, without the ability to correct the result (including exposure, colors, etc.). And Fuji s5 misses the same with BB. On my already under 130k mileage, by the way :) And if we talk about printing a photo - then when printing from Lightroom, the photo on the sheet is the same as on the monitor. Which, in my opinion, cannot be achieved in principle, if you just print the files from the Windows photo viewer.

            • Lynx

              Take a mirrorless fujik ... X-t1 is simply awesome, they say, besides, there is phase focusing ... X-e2 is also said to be quite good, and X-m1 is an option “cheap and cheerful”. And Nikon's optics can be safely installed through an adapter. In addition, the fujik itself has very nice glasses, for example, 35 / 1,4.

  • Igorek

    The camera is terribly unpretentious and largely outdated, the same 550d in a different case, but I'm sorry 5 years have passed. It’s better to see some Sony already)))

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