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Sony a7R review
The Sony ILCE-7R (aka Sony Alpha 7R, or Sony α 7R for short) is a very interesting and unusual camera. It was presented on October 16, 2013 along with its younger 'sister' - Sony a7 and 5 full-frame Sony-E mount lenses.
Sony a7R, slim body.
The Sony ILCE-7R and Sony ILCE-7 are the first full-frame mirrorless cameras with interchangeable lenses and autofocus, although, even before their appearance, Sony managed to present the first full-frame mirrorless compact camera Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX2012 in September 1 (of course , without interchangeable optics). I suspect that the Sony a7, Sony SLT A99 and DSC-RX1 cameras use the same sensor as the basis.
Sony is one of the leaders in full-frame mirrorless cameras. Although the first full-frame mirrorless camera was the Leica M9, the M9, like its successors Leica ME and Leica M, is a 'pure' rangefinder. Also, I am very impressed by the fact that in April 2014 Sony released the product that I personally have been waiting for - the Sony a7S. Unlike other manufacturers who increase megapixelsSony turned back and released a marvelous 12-megapixel camera with a super-sensitive sensor that can 'overclock' ISO to 409.600.
Sony a7R with rotary display
First of all, the Sony a7R is interesting with its 36 megapixel full-frame sensor. I would like to dwell on the matrix in more detail. Most likely, the same sensor is used in two Nikon cameras - D800 and D800E, there are many indirect confirmations of this:
- researchers from Chipworks disassembled Nikon D800 and finally determined that a matrix from Sony was used there. It's no secret that many Nikon cameras are based on Sony sensors. Of course, this does not mean that the output picture will be the same for both cameras, because the signal processing algorithms from the matrices are different.
- the a7R and D800 / D800E have the same number of megapixels and they create images with the same maximum size - 7360 X 4912 pixels, which is 36.152.320 (about 36 MP).
- the same level of ISO 50-25.600. True, the ISO 50 of the D800 / D800E is denoted as Lo1and 25.600 is Hi2. But, at the same time, for auto-ISO in 7R, the range 100-6400 is used, which is the base for the D800 / D800E.
- Tests dxomark.com showthat the D800 / D800E cameras have almost the same indicators of the main characteristics of image quality. And in fact, the images from these cameras are quite similar.
- it is noteworthy that Nikon D800E and Sony a7R do not use a low-pass filter, although Nikon D800E everything is a little more complicated.
If this is true, it is very strange that Nikon released its D800 / D800E in February 2012, almost 2 years earlier than Sony its Sony a7R.
Sony a7R top view
The sensor of the Sony a7R is really amazing, for some photo tasks it is one of the best among all full-frame cameras. It's just strange that Sony a7R RAW files with 14-bit color depth and 36MP weigh almost all as one - 35 MB each. Rumor has it that RAW files from this camera are heavily compressed and do not convey the full potential of the original image quality.
The camera has a mechanical shutter, and it is very noisy, with a not very pleasant 'clanking' sound. When you release the shutter, it sometimes feels like something is going to fall apart in the middle of the camera. When shooting with the Sony a7R, I noticed that sometimes slightly blurry shots are obtained at certain values. excerpts, although, at the same exposures in other cameras, I did not observe such a problem. Most likely, the 'shake' (blurring of the photo due to camera shake) is associated with the vibration created by the shutter, as well as the sensitivity of the camera's matrix with such a high pixel density.
Shutter fulfills excerpts from 30 to 1/8000 s, and excerpt synchronization is a very meager value - 1 / 160 with. Among Nikon CZK, no camera has such a long excerpts sync even ancient Nikon D100 and that has a shutter speed of 1/180 s (the longest among the rest of the CZK). Modern cameras with a mechanical shutter have a sync speed of the order of 1/200 s, cameras of a slightly higher class - 1/250 and 1/320 s.
Sony a7R, a compartment for the battery and memory cards, as well as the battery itself
When changing the lens, the matrix of the camera remains fully open, and therefore the likelihood of its contamination is much higher than that of SLR cameras, in which it is closed by a mirror and shutter. The camera came to me with a huge dust particle in the very center of the frame, I had to remove it using a special vacuum pump for cleaning the matrixes of cameras. True, I was able to remove only dust (I, for obvious reasons, did not dare to clean myself), so you can easily see the other dirt remaining on the matrix in the examples of photos at the end of this review.
The Sony a7R has another serious drawback - unlike the Sony a7, the a7R does not have a hybrid focusing system with phase sensors built into the matrix, and therefore it can focus only by detecting contrast. In real shooting conditions Sony a7R focuses very slowly and no manipulations with the focus modes help, sometimes it’s easiest to focus manually. It is very strange that the Sony a7R matrix was not finalized.
True, there is one wonderful trick. The camera can be used with Sony LA-EA4 adapterwhich allows you to mount any 'A-mount' lenses on the Sony a7R. The adapter has a translucent mirror and optional phase focusing module with 15 focus points. With this adapter, the Sony a7R achieves excellent fast and consistent focusing with a wide range of A-mount lenses. Ray is happy!
Sony a7R and film analogue ZK Nikon AF N8008s
You can get used to the controls quickly enough. Many buttons can be reprogrammed for the desired function. I liked the separate correction wheel exposure, although it is duplicated by the rear wheel in some shooting modes. The camera body is well made, Sony a7R sits well in the hand, there are rubber inserts for a comfortable grip.
Sony a7R with Metabones Leica ME mount adapter for installing Leica lenses on Sony cameras with E-mount
The camera can shoot at maximum speed 4 frames per second, the Nikon D800 / D800E can shoot full-frame at the same speed. The camera has a large buffer for this speed. Moreover, the number of shots that fit into the buffer does not depend on the use of functions that improve the image, for example, such as suppressing the noise level at high ISO values or correcting lens distortions.
On average, when shooting in continuous high speed mode, the buffer contains:
- 16 JPEG images in X.Fine (super fine) quality, L: 36M
- 13 RAW format shots
- 13 RAW + JPEG shots
However, after taking a series of shots, the camera spends quite a lot of time (up to tens of seconds) on writing heavy files to a memory card.
Sony a7R with lens Sony FE 3.5-5.6 / 28-70 OSS SEL2870
For many users, the Sony a7R is simply interesting as a digital backdrop for manual optics. The camera has a short working distance and therefore theoretically any lens can be mounted on it. By the way, videographers can also use any cinema lenses on Sony a7R. For cameras with E-mount, third-party manufacturers even make adapters that allow you to use autofocus optics from other manufacturers.
The camera weighs about 465 grams, so with a serious body kit there may be inconvenience with the distribution of weight.
Sony a7R with lens Canon EF-S 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS IIinstalled using an adapter Metabones Canon EF - Sony E
Of course, the Sony a7R uses an electronic viewfinder itself EVI quite pleasant at 2.359.000 points with an increase of 0.71x. On Sony a7R, I personally do not like a long time to initialize image output to EVI or camera display. You can also see through a 3-inch deflectable display at 1.230.000 points.
Sony a7R with lens Industar-50-2 3.5 / 50
And of course, the Sony a7R is stuffed with various functions:
- Picking with setting the color of the selection of contours and their intensity.
- Zebra and manual focus assist.
- HDR and ADR with different intensity settings.
- A variety of creative styles and drawing effects.
- A micro-HDMI port with support for 4K photo output and uncompressed video output.
- The camera uses one universal slot for two types of memory cards - SD (SDHC, SDXC) and Memory Stick Duo (Pro Duo, Pro-HG Duo)
- Connector for microphone and headphone, as well as USB 2.0.
- Face recognition.
- Built Wi-Fi module for transferring pictures.
- The auto-ISO function, however, is a pity that you can not set limits on the range and maximum value excerpts. In this case, only the range of ISO 100-6400 for photos and ISO 200-6400 for video is used.
- Quick panorama mode.
- Video 1920 x 1080 (60p, 60i, 24p) AVCHD or 1440 x 1080 (30p) MP4 and more.
Sony a7R with lens Helios-44 2/58
The weak point of the camera is the battery, which, with the active use of the camera, lasts only 300-400 shots. Sony a7R is quite voracious in terms of power consumption and you can’t shoot a long period on a single charge. On a trip to the outskirts of Kiev, I was pretty much helped by an external USB-battery for my phone (Genius 2500 mAh). The camera charges via USB, so I was able to easily recharge the camera with an extra battery. Unfortunately, the Sony a7R cannot immediately work from the USB port, you must definitely wait for the main battery to charge.
Here link to the archive with the originals - 1.38 GB, 40 .ARW photos (RAW) Also, photos taken on the Sony Alpha 7R, can be found in the reviews: Sony FE 3.5-5.6 / 28-70 OSS SEL2870, Helios-44 2/58, Industar-50-2 3.5 / 50, Metabones NF-E mount и Metabones EF-E mount adapter.
Personal experience shooting with the Sony a7R camera
I have been using the camera for a week. All the hymns of praise for this camera that are stuffed with the Internet are smashed to smithereens on the focusing system and EVI. I shot on May 9th, walks in Kiev, visited Sony a7R on a small trip to the bunkers near Belogorodka, tried to shoot animals and flowers, and everywhere I ran into very slow and almost useless auto focus... Even in the case of successful (according to the camera) focusing and the taken picture, you are still playing the 'sharp / unsharp' lottery. I believe that such focusing quality is unacceptable for a camera that Sony often refers to as a professional segment. Shooting even slightly moving objects is not for the faint of heart.
For myself, I concluded that Sony a7R - excellent device for working with almost any manual optics, or for manual focus operation. The picture from the Sony a7R is very saturated, there is a large dynamic range and color depth, and the camera noises more than modern full-frame cameras. I think that the camera is good use for shooting landscapes, architecture, certain types of subject and macro photography, wherever fast focus is required. Personally, I was interested in Sony a7R in the quality of the camera, on which you can test any (due to the short working distance) optics :). But use Sony a7R even as a second / spare camera, I would not.
Of course, when using a camera with 'A-mount' lenses using an adapter Sony LA-EA4 speed, accuracy and focusing tenacity are comparable to those of SLT cameras, but there are still certain drawbacks. The main ones are the absence of 'A-mount' lenses with a stabilizer, the loss of 1/3 of the luminous flux due to the translucent mirror of the adapter, strong focusing points in the center of the frame, the high cost of the adapter, etc.
In addition to very slow focusing, I was very bothered by the slow inclusion EVI or Live View when Sony a7R wakes up from standby. This is an unbearable hard labor - look in black for seconds EVImissing interesting shots. And this is the first camera in which an attempt to sort out the menu makes me just put the camera aside and go have some tea.
You can look at prices for Sony a7R in popular online stores at this link, or in the price block below:
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Sony ILCE-7R is an ambiguous, but in any case, a very interesting camera :)
All Sony FE Lenses and Cameras
Fixes:
- Sony FE 14 mm F / 1.8 GM [April 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 20 mm F / 1.8 G [February 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24 mm F / 1.4 GM [September 2018, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24 mm F / 2.8 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28 mm F / 2.0 [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 GM [January 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 ZA [August 2014]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.8 [July 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 2.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 40 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.2 GM [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 ZA [July 2016]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2023]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.8 [March 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.8 Macro [August 2016]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021]
- Sony FE 55 mm F / 1.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.8 [February 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 90 mm F / 2.8 Macro G OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 100 mm F / 2.8 STF GM OSS [February 2017]
- Sony FE 135 mm F / 1.8 GM [February 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 300 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [November 2023]
- Sony FE 400 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [June 2018]
- Sony FE 600 mm F / 4 GM OSS [June 2019]
Zuma:
- Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 2.8 GM [July 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 4 G [May 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-25 mm F / 2.8 G [April 2024]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM [May 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM II [August 2023]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm T / 3.1 PZ G C [November 2020]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [September 2014, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 PZ G [March 2022, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 20-70 mm F / 4 G [January 2023]
- Sony FE 24-50 mm F / 2.8 G [February 2024]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM II [April 2022, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-105 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-240 mm F / 3.5-6.3 OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-60 mm F / 4-5.6 [September 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-70 mm F / 3.5-5.6 OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-135 mm F / 4 G PZ OSS [September 2014]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [October 2017]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS II [October 2021]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 G Macro OSS II [July 2023]
- Sony-FE 70-300 mm F / 4.5-5.6 G OSS [March 2016]
- Sony FE 100-400 mm F / 4.5-5.6 GM OSS [April 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 200-600 mm F / 5.6-6.3 G OSS [June 2019, AliExpress price]
Autofocus full-frame lenses for Sony E / FE mount are also available from other manufacturers:
- SIGMA DG A/C/S: 14 / 1.8A, 14/1.4A DN, 15/1.4A DN Fisheye, 17/4C DN, 20 / 1.4A, 20/1.4A DN, 20/2C DN, 24 / 1.4A, 24/1.4A DN, 24/2CDN, 24/3.5C DN, 28 / 1.4A, 35/2C DN, 35 / 1.4A, 35/1.4A DN, 35/1.2A DN, 40 / 1.4A, 45/2.8C DN, 50/2C DN, 50 / 1.4A, 50/1.4A DN, 50/1.2A DN, 65/2C DN, 70 / 2.8A, 85 / 1.4A, 85/1.4A DN, 90/2.8C DN, 105 / 1.4A, 105/2.8A DN, 135 / 1.8A, 500/5.6S DN + 14-24/2.8A DN, 16-28/2.8C DN, 24-70/2.8A DN, 28-70/2.8C DN, 70-200/2.8S DN, 100-400/5-6.3CDN, 150-600/5-6.3S DN, 60-600/4.5-6.3S DN (A-ART, C - CONTEMPORARY, S-SPORT)
- Samyang: 14/2.8, 18/2.8, 24/2.8, 24/1.8, 35/2.8, 35/1.8, 35/1.4, 35 / 1.4 II, 45/1.8, 50/1.4, 50 / 1.4 II, 75/1.8, 85/1.4, 85 / 1.4 II, 135/1.8 + TBU, 35-150/2-2.8 + V-AF range
- Tamron: 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 35/2.8 + TBU, TBU, TBU, TBU, 28-75/2.8G2, 28-200/2.8-5.6, 35-150/2-2.8, 50-400/4.5-6.3, TBU, 70-180/2.8G2, 70-300/4.5-6.3, 150-600/5-6.7
- felttrox: 16/1.8, 20/2.8, 24/1.8, 28/1.8, 35/1.8, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85 / 1.8 II
- Zeiss batis: 18/2.8, 25/2, 40/2, 85/1.8, 135/2.8
- yongnuo: 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85 / 1.8 II
- tokina: 20/2, 85/1.8, 100/2.8
- Meike: 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85/1.4
- TTArtisan: 32/2.8
- AstrHori: 85/1.8
- laowa: 10/2.8
- 7Artisans: 50/1.8
- Nikon f (AF, AF-S, AF-P, AF-I) -> Sony E/FE
All Full Frame Sony E-mount Cameras
- Sony a7 [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7II [November 2014, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7III [February 2018, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7IV [October 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r [October 2013]
- Sony a7rII [June 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r III/IIIA [October 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r IV/IVA [July 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7rV [October 2022]
- Sony a7s [April 2014]
- Sony a7s II [September 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7s III [July 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9 [April 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9II [October 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9III [November 2023]
- Sony a1 [January 2021]
- Sony a7c [September 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7cII [August 2023]
- Sony a7cr [August 2023]
- Sony FX3 [February 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony ZV-E1 [March 2023]
Materials on the topic
- Full frame mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- Digital SLR systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- JVI or EVI (an important article that answers the question 'DSLR or mirrorless')
- About mirrorless batteries
- Simple and clear medium format
- High-speed solutions from Chinese brands
- All fastest autofocus zoom lenses
- All fastest AF prime lenses
- Mirrored full frame on mirrorless medium format
- Autofocus Speed Boosters
- One lens to rule the world
- The impact of smartphones on the photography market
- What's next (smartphone supremacy)?
- All announcements and novelties of lenses and cameras
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Arkady thank you so much if the plans include a review of the Sony a7S or something similar with such a matrix
In the near future it will be difficult to get somewhere Sony a7S.
It's a pity. Judging by the comments, many are waiting for him
I’m waiting for this review, probably for ages.
Ferrari is Canon 1DX, Sony 7r is a hulking bus for excursions, landscapes.
The topic of DSLRs against mirrorless seems to be the most acute judging by the number of comments. But if the company produces it means it is designed for someone. And what is expensive for the average citizen of the CIS can cause a stir in Japan or South Korea. And probably what is expensive today can become cheap tomorrow, and so progress is moving. AND
although I’m not a professional for professional shooting, this model is still damp for me, but still it’s interesting
After downloading the archives with photographs, ale size photo 1616x1080, skin “vaga” 36MB each. Tse through “non-manifestation”? Let it be a weasel yak to look through the files in the main expansion. The program for the glance is FastStone 4.7, which is not visible anymore. Dyakuyu.
try out the software, Lightroom show показ Rosemir photo 7360х4912
I have a lightroom 4.4, but I don’t write about Danish type. I will shukati schish іnshe, dyakoy.
My Lightroom 5.4 has a file with a video
Yuri, the Sony ARW version 2.3 format itself has not changed since 2012 (11?) Rock. A new skin chamber is deprived of writing a new one, the tone compression (Nikon te vikoristov in raves) is immutable.
Lightroom / Photoshop with specific cameras,
And the old and even simpler Sony Imgae Data converter is good, and the 2012 program will wonderfully display RAW from the new cameras, A7, A6000, A77-II.
It is interesting that Sony has made the A7 with all the full-frame sensors that it has ever produced: A7c with a matrix from d700, a7 with a matrix from d600 and a7p with a matrix from d800. The fact that a7p is a dead end is clear in advance (it is worth remembering at least Stelmakh's devastating article on d800). Actually in this blog it is quite intelligible and it explains why, but a mirrorless camera with a matrix from d700 is a damn interesting proposal! Regarding the srach in the comments: Sony mirrorless cameras are the best digital rear camera for manual optics AND EVERYTHING. I don't quite understand when they say that they have autofocus - shit or slow live view. Once again, mirrorless cameras are cameras for manual optics, and it doesn't matter how Sony positions them. And the expression “special camera for landscapes” really amuses me!
I agree, under the manual mirrorless the most. It fits any optics, including rangefinder, dimensions and weight are less than that of a DSLR, and autofocus is so, a bonus option for native optics.
Build yourself on sony a 7s.
Arkady, did you like Sony more than the flagship mirrorless Olympus?
Olympus, as a camera in general, I personally liked much more. But, of course, the E-M1 loses much to the Sony A7R directly in image quality :)
Your power is over, mirrors!
Sony has confidently and irrevocably marked the beginning of a new era of digital photography with the release of the cheapest (13 tr.) Camera NEX-3N (16-50 mm). The era of the reign of MIRRORLESS photographic equipment. The world of photography has shifted and will never be the same again. Tremble, professionals, your marginal destiny is a mirrored fullframe for crazy money. Everything else, from cheap to budget semi-pro, is definitely behind mirrorless cameras. Prepare a place on the dusty mezzanine, in five (inertia of consumer thinking) years you will remember the present day with nostalgia about the former greatness of its master Mirror.
If only people more thoughtfully took pictures, and did not bother with their head alone with photographic equipment :) Let them be mirrorless, if only convenient)
They made fun :). There are still people who wanted to use digital cameras, shooting exclusively on film, and this is their inviolable right, because brings them pleasure. In the same way, even in the event of the arrival of your “era of the reign of mirrorless photographic equipment” (which is still very, very doubtful) there will be people who shoot with DSLRs of a budget and semi-professional level for themselves.
Christian Haas's book contains many examples of photographs with the indication of the shooting data. Photos were taken with various models of cameras - from simple cropped DSLRs to “full-frame monsters”. Noteworthy is one photo from the section of the book “Subject and composition of the photo”. This photo was taken with the Canon Powershot A95 :). With this photo, the author emphasizes that it is “Subject and composition of the picture” that plays an important role in photography. Arkady also has an article on this topic, where there is a good photo on a Nokia phone. Therefore, it is not so important what to photograph, it is important as well as for the pleasure of yourself and others.
I tell everyone so, go read booksand then, if you really want to, plunge into arguments about photographic equipment https://radojuva.com.ua/2013/04/88-heartbeat/
Damn, the last link about a cool camera is something!
Thank you, Arkady, for the advice. I used it some time ago :) The advice turned out to be efficient and correct
Speaking of books. I dare to recommend to those who wish a very good (in my humble opinion) book by Lydia Dyko “Photocomposition”. True, some places do not directly relate to photography (a tribute to the then Soviet era, nothing can be done), but you can safely skip them. Just as good is the book "Conversations about the art of photography" by the same author.
Well hello my friend. I am writing to you from the distant 2019. That is, from the future, as you have said in the past. Many then thought that the era of the mirror had ended. But it was not there. The era of the mirror will never end until the era of the dimensions of masculine virtues lasts.
Engineers have long learned from the phones of muses. centers do, and excelled at that.
Only now a real music fan is still listening, but on the phone he is only ringing. The cost of a top-end tube amplifier surpasses, approaching the cost of a used a car. And it’s not just that.
Sudars, do not argue, they will always work with mirrors, but also sophisticated soap dishes will find their owners.
Arkady, and you fell for Sony’s ad. The first full-frame mirrorless is the Leica M9 (September 2009), then the Leica M (September 2012).
Of course they are mirrorless, but still these rangefinders are not a lot of another niche
The Leica M9 fully meets the definition of “digital full frame mirrorless interchangeable lens camera”, everything else is from the crafty.
You are right when you look at this fundamentally, but conceptually, the differences are significant, and in some cases these differences play a decisive role in the creative process.
Still caught, the text is Fixed.
And chegozh it is still so expensive? :)
sho Sonya. You understand the brand ..
Arkady, I'm sorry, but you are wrong, sending everyone to read books on photography. It is unacceptable! People have every right to buy top-end lenses in order to blow off the dust and photograph a cat (for internal consumption and soothe the soul) and a cabinet with the glasses themselves (for the sake of polishing the status among like-minded people and for shocking newcomers)! It's the same with the devices! The more expensive and technologically advanced the apparatus is, the more masterpieces (cats and wardrobes) are masterpieces!
All of the above was sarcasm. Now on to the case.
Arkady, thank you very much for your work! Thanks to Radozhiva, I discovered an amazing new world and saved a lot of money. And also, importantly, fountains from oil irrigate my heart muscle when I throw links to your reviews and articles to all kinds of forums where, as Ken Rockwell calls them, masturbation equipments.
You can still shoot food and yourself, making lips chicken ass.
And what is the best way to cope with such tasks?
That's right, the top camera in Auto mode.
The main thing is that the built-in flash that suddenly pops up in this mode does not tear off the fingers of the connoisseur of cats, food and other Instagram fetishes))))
Arkady! I hope such a lengthy discussion. and the camera, which doesn’t seem to deserve it, gives you the opportunity to take a break from us, boring grumblers and pedants. Thank you for your patience!
I am glad that a bit of humor was added :)
Clinical nonsense. There is a merchant for every product. Who makes you buy it?
You have to clean the matrix everywhere - do you even know how to use a camera? If they knew how, then such pearls would not give out.
People continue to "slow down" - the guys are always subjective opinion of the author, the author can not always fully show the weak points in the test. Let’s already start thinking with your head, otherwise they made a “bazaar-station” here, and at that time Shapoval almost choked on a donut from laughter.
I think that people are not so mad about camera flaws as its overpriced. There would have been a price of around 50, the screamers would have forgiven a lot. The matrix and, accordingly, the pictures are cool. And then, a bad result, if it's really bad, is also a result, he is guided in order to correct mistakes. I take off my hat to photographers of the middle of the 20th century. The lens is manual, the exposure is determined by your brains, and not by the processor of the camera, without a machine gun, in a case there are 3 cassettes with a film, you will see the result at best late at night. And how did you shoot! Including a report Well.
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Arkady, thanks for the honest review. What I like about system sleepers is that you can use almost any optics, including those from very old film rangefinders - the working distance allows. The fact that such an expensive camera does not have fast enough processors and sensors is depressing. But time passes and everything changes, only the one who does nothing is not mistaken. It would be interesting to see how Helios-103 or Jupiter-8 works on a similar camera.
On the advice, almost humor. About 20 years ago, a newfangled banker I know asked which camera is the best, I said, each has its own advantage. And what do you dream of having - then I dreamed of Hasselblad 205TCC. As a result, a month later, he bragged to me about the Hasselblad 205TCC. On which he shot only a few clips of the film and which still stood in his place of honor, as a sign of a cool, expensive, prestigious thing.
So, Arkady, thanks again for the reviews, and everyone who reads them, let him strain and think what he needs, instead of finding fault with what he has written, because you can write something useful and useful to everyone - as you do.
Thank you Arkady for the review! Your opinion was very interesting, though the A7 was waiting (all the same, hybrid focusing). I got the D90 and the frequent front and back focus got, although all the lenses are aligned in the SC. So this camera was interested in with its picking with the color adjustment of the contours, the 'zebra' and a short shutter speed. I can not decide Sony A7 or Nikon D610. You tested the D600, don’t you remember, in Lv mode, the aperture jump is working?
> Rei is happy!
Very much in the subject!
Arkady, thank you! It turned out very interesting and significant for those who look at the Sony A7 and A7R. I myself had a working Sonya 58, very happy. There are probably no ideal cameras, and a talented and competent professional or amateur can make friends and "squeeze" a lot out of any typewriter. I think that even with all the shortcomings, the pros can use the Sony A7R as an excellent tool. After all, not all photographers are weddings and visiting portraitists. There are also advertisers and subject matter specialists. Sony chose the path of partial and complete rejection of the mirror scheme. Probably, for many reasons, this is the right direction and with the progress of EVI technologies, these arguments will become more convincing. Personal experience of communicating with mirrorless cameras and EVI showed a lot of advantages of this solution. But ... While I'm shooting with pentax and nikon. The prospect of going full frame, though, makes you gaze very closely at Sony. If the price drops a little, a park of optics will appear, and cameras will appear on the "secondary", then for an amateur the transition to full frame on Sony will be the best option.
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It is funny to read discussions of people for whom characteristics become prevailing over business. Disputes, quarrels, rudeness, children grew up and habits remained, calm down, the largest penis belongs to John Falcon (33 cm). John's penis was officially measured in front of video cameras, which does not allow to doubt this fact. The main frame processor sits in your head. The camera is just a way to transfer it. How many millions of hands are held by Leica, Panoscan, Hasselblad and they produce slag, pleasing only the master's eye. Disputes are better, worse this is nonsense, like world peace, who likes to talk about it, wait for the release of a new camera complete with direct hands. As for this line of cameras from Sony, I almost doubt that they will find a connoisseur, no, not as a brand, but as a tool to show their visions of the world. Probably sometime you need to stop putting up brands and NIKONists to be grateful to Canon for its new products, as the moderator will give an answer and your favorite brand will have new products and exactly one turn. As for Sony, let's say thank you all, because this is really a breakthrough and you just have to be patient and wait for the response from other manufacturers. Many are hard on accepting progress, just some years ago a good half of photographers shouted video, it’s from a demon, there are cameras for the video, a good camera doesn’t take videos, and if you spin the time wheel, you can smell the war between the film and the echoes of which found today. He skidded in shock. So Sony Alpha A7k, A7R, A7S on the site. I did not find them in professional equipment, they are positioned as a compact with interchangeable optics. So you can only compare them with your own kind. Show me a compact of such quality? (Assembly, etc.) Is not a revolution? Weight? The matrix? Price? The universalization of the use of lenses. You may not recognize the obvious. Of course a good photographer is a strong photographer, but I think very many people will want to challenge this theory in the near future. Whatever experience I had in life photography, I often found myself thinking that the brain was subconsciously picking up to throw out of a backpack to reduce weight, and the hands of the rakers were folding and folding like on a mezzanine, a moment would come in handy. Give time and each manager will be with this, and you will not explain to him that the analog from Canon and NIKON is heavier and more expensive but still better, and as for small jambs of noisy shutters, etc. it’s only Sony’s haste to please the consumer and the rivals outstripped by competitors, they may know what we don’t know in Sony, only interest is played out, but not anger. Anger is for those who can’t buy this tool, the average format takes less than two frames but screaming g ... oh and comparing it with another construct is senseless and stupid, I guess you still need to have your own opinions (twist to test, and not collect it bit by bit on the network, and scream, why do I need this. Anyone who is able to learn throughout life will certainly stumble on the stage that will think his consciousness higher and higher, and makes his demands sophisticated. Do not chase and rely on technology, if you can attract only relatives with your pictures, and then only out of respect for you .... Thank you all, who offended, not from evil.
Yes, thanks for the test, it’s not bad, but the conclusion about the purchase or not (But I would not use Sony a7R even as a second / spare camera.) Is superfluous, this is a purely personal solution that does not require pushing in the back and introduces a split. Maybe then people will need to get their opinions (according to their experience), the professional is different from the amateur, he does not think when buying his tool, and he knows for sure the purpose of its application.
Regards, RODEN.
Everything is too cunningly veiled. For example, here is a notarized snapshot of the site https://radojuva.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/wtf.jpg (from the page http://www.sony.ua/electronics/kamery) where “professional capabilities… Model-Flagships” is written in black and white and a7 is shown. At the same time on http://www.sony.ru/ it's all called an “expert”. And as someone correctly noted here in the comments, if this is a camera exclusively for static, then what does a child who rides a bicycle do and vaunted stories about wonderful autofocus - https://radojuva.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/wtf2.jpg ?
a professional is who tries to create and chooses. alas, the criterion is the same as for all artists - the opinion of critics, viewers - of course fashion, PR, a subjective approach takes place, but the opinion of the majority is the main / it is the majority that determines what is beautiful and like it. most that the black square is not a masterpiece. artistic creativity is the call of the soul and the wedding photography is the call of the body that needs to be fed. Happy is the one who manages to combine. but one should not forget that the result is still secondary and the process is primary \\ moral satisfaction from the process of creation is greater since the process is long and the result is an instant.
I am somewhat surprised at the more than once expressed thought about a very high pixel density. Dividing 36 megapixels by 2,24 (so many times the cropped matrix is less than full-frame) we get 16 megapixels, i.e. like Nikon D7000 and his peers.
I have been shooting since 6 years old \ change2.kiev 4a \ besides super-expensive models I held everything in my hands. Sony is a revolution in photography, both the watering can and the Hassel have been truncated. shooting at twilight + frames per second. focus bracketing remained and in my opinion all the main problems are solved by sony + video and this video is not a gadget. sony welded a minolt to herself for a reason and attracted the optics of a watering can. in terms of electronics it is a leader in all areas . the equipment canon with elks is good. pentax - also with limited edition and nikon is also good with expensive lenses. and even better their advertising is powerful for many years. I am already an old man, but Sony devices, in addition to quality, amuse the soul with new solutions, etc. equipment canon nikon pentax \ except 645 \ boring like an old solid suit ... while they are pondering a kick in the ass, a Samsung is aiming with Schneider-Kreuznach optics. I asked a wedding bombila, why canon. Answered: it’s accepted, solid, prestigious ... and Nikon will do. The lens must be larger. pentax-no. people know canon and nikon and sony too, no. I am personally delighted with Sony, although everything required will probably be in a99-2 or something like that
The coolest thing about it:
1. Any objective
2. high ISO
3. Contrast illumination of the depth of field from SONY is a "bomb", there is no need for autofocus, you can shoot with manual lenses, the results can be compared only with 3D focus in Nikon (tracking from the extrap. Position of the object).
Bottom line: Wedding without flash, with manuals - easy, even with dynamic shooting.
After that I look longingly at the green point of focus confirmation - mathematically more accurate, yes, but what's the point - if the object is not static ??? !!! That would be like this in Nikon ... ..
Good afternoon!
Somehow I came across your reviews and now I read from time to time.
I am the proud owner of Nikon d800 and Sigma 35 f1.4 (the rest of the lens fleet gathers dust on the shelf).
I'm interested in the question of the 36MP sensor made by Sony, but whose development is this? Maybe, after all, Sony is just a contractor, and therefore releases its camera much later than Nikon? The moment is not fundamental, but interesting.
I consider the comparison of mirror and mirrorless cameras of different levels and price categories, as for the starting point I take the result of the shooting and the effort to achieve it. Why compare cameras inside the classroom if the result of shooting is important? This is about comparing with DSLRs.
By the way, my camera + lens bundle with the “old” matrix focuses very quickly, is it really the reason for Sony's lag in the matrix?
And here is what I would especially like to clarify:
In reviews and reviews, workers praise the ISO Sony A7 (especially S), they call this camera the best in terms of this indicator, but is it? I also read that it makes no less noise than Nikon D3s. What to believe in the end?
Some not very revolutionary revolutions are obtained. You know what you really would like to see in a professional camera (yes, in fact, in any camera)? The ability to autofocus across the entire field of the frame. There are more points, the focusing field has become wider, and for the sake of composition, you have to move the camera after focusing - dancing with a tambourine.
And also, as much as I love my camera + lens bundle, I very often miss when I try to take a general shot. The reason is completely clear to me - there is not a single contrasting detail that can fill the entire autofocus frame, everything is too small, autofocus cannot grasp.
As a result, there are two important directions in the development of autofocus, primarily relevant for artistic photography, which override the significance of increasing ISO.
Do you agree with me?
Thoughts are interesting. They say that a7s even uses a strong noise cancellation, which is not good.
It is difficult to scatter focus points for a full frame due to the laws of optics, you would see what is happening in the medium format segment, where the focus points all sit in the very center.
The Canon 70d / Canon 7D mark II with its dual-pixel catches focus well in live view over almost the entire frame, and the mirrorless olics and fuji seem to do pretty well.