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Sony a7R review
The Sony ILCE-7R (aka Sony Alpha 7R, or Sony α 7R for short) is a very interesting and unusual camera. It was presented on October 16, 2013 along with its younger 'sister' - Sony a7 and 5 full-frame Sony-E mount lenses.
Sony a7R, slim body.
The Sony ILCE-7R and Sony ILCE-7 are the first full-frame mirrorless cameras with interchangeable lenses and autofocus, although, even before their appearance, Sony managed to present the first full-frame mirrorless compact camera Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX2012 in September 1 (of course , without interchangeable optics). I suspect that the Sony a7, Sony SLT A99 and DSC-RX1 cameras use the same sensor as the basis.
Sony is one of the leaders in full-frame mirrorless cameras. Although the first full-frame mirrorless camera was the Leica M9, the M9, like its successors Leica ME and Leica M, is a 'pure' rangefinder. Also, I am very impressed by the fact that in April 2014 Sony released the product that I personally have been waiting for - the Sony a7S. Unlike other manufacturers who increase megapixelsSony turned back and released a marvelous 12-megapixel camera with a super-sensitive sensor that can 'overclock' ISO to 409.600.
Sony a7R with rotary display
First of all, the Sony a7R is interesting with its 36 megapixel full-frame sensor. I would like to dwell on the matrix in more detail. Most likely, the same sensor is used in two Nikon cameras - D800 and D800E, there are many indirect confirmations of this:
- researchers from Chipworks disassembled Nikon D800 and finally determined that a matrix from Sony was used there. It's no secret that many Nikon cameras are based on Sony sensors. Of course, this does not mean that the output picture will be the same for both cameras, because the signal processing algorithms from the matrices are different.
- the a7R and D800 / D800E have the same number of megapixels and they create images with the same maximum size - 7360 X 4912 pixels, which is 36.152.320 (about 36 MP).
- the same level of ISO 50-25.600. True, the ISO 50 of the D800 / D800E is denoted as Lo1and 25.600 is Hi2. But, at the same time, for auto-ISO in 7R, the range 100-6400 is used, which is the base for the D800 / D800E.
- Tests dxomark.com showthat the D800 / D800E cameras have almost the same indicators of the main characteristics of image quality. And in fact, the images from these cameras are quite similar.
- it is noteworthy that Nikon D800E and Sony a7R do not use a low-pass filter, although Nikon D800E everything is a little more complicated.
If this is true, it is very strange that Nikon released its D800 / D800E in February 2012, almost 2 years earlier than Sony its Sony a7R.
Sony a7R top view
The sensor of the Sony a7R is really amazing, for some photo tasks it is one of the best among all full-frame cameras. It's just strange that Sony a7R RAW files with 14-bit color depth and 36MP weigh almost all as one - 35 MB each. Rumor has it that RAW files from this camera are heavily compressed and do not convey the full potential of the original image quality.
The camera has a mechanical shutter, and it is very noisy, with a not very pleasant 'clanking' sound. When you release the shutter, it sometimes feels like something is going to fall apart in the middle of the camera. When shooting with the Sony a7R, I noticed that sometimes slightly blurry shots are obtained at certain values. excerpts, although, at the same exposures in other cameras, I did not observe such a problem. Most likely, the 'shake' (blurring of the photo due to camera shake) is associated with the vibration created by the shutter, as well as the sensitivity of the camera's matrix with such a high pixel density.
Shutter fulfills excerpts from 30 to 1/8000 s, and excerpt synchronization is a very meager value - 1 / 160 with. Among Nikon CZK, no camera has such a long excerpts sync even ancient Nikon D100 and that has a shutter speed of 1/180 s (the longest among the rest of the CZK). Modern cameras with a mechanical shutter have a sync speed of the order of 1/200 s, cameras of a slightly higher class - 1/250 and 1/320 s.
Sony a7R, a compartment for the battery and memory cards, as well as the battery itself
When changing the lens, the matrix of the camera remains fully open, and therefore the likelihood of its contamination is much higher than that of SLR cameras, in which it is closed by a mirror and shutter. The camera came to me with a huge dust particle in the very center of the frame, I had to remove it using a special vacuum pump for cleaning the matrixes of cameras. True, I was able to remove only dust (I, for obvious reasons, did not dare to clean myself), so you can easily see the other dirt remaining on the matrix in the examples of photos at the end of this review.
The Sony a7R has another serious drawback - unlike the Sony a7, the a7R does not have a hybrid focusing system with phase sensors built into the matrix, and therefore it can focus only by detecting contrast. In real shooting conditions Sony a7R focuses very slowly and no manipulations with the focus modes help, sometimes it’s easiest to focus manually. It is very strange that the Sony a7R matrix was not finalized.
True, there is one wonderful trick. The camera can be used with Sony LA-EA4 adapterwhich allows you to mount any 'A-mount' lenses on the Sony a7R. The adapter has a translucent mirror and optional phase focusing module with 15 focus points. With this adapter, the Sony a7R achieves excellent fast and consistent focusing with a wide range of A-mount lenses. Ray is happy!
Sony a7R and film analogue ZK Nikon AF N8008s
You can get used to the controls quickly enough. Many buttons can be reprogrammed for the desired function. I liked the separate correction wheel exposure, although it is duplicated by the rear wheel in some shooting modes. The camera body is well made, Sony a7R sits well in the hand, there are rubber inserts for a comfortable grip.
Sony a7R with Metabones Leica ME mount adapter for installing Leica lenses on Sony cameras with E-mount
The camera can shoot at maximum speed 4 frames per second, the Nikon D800 / D800E can shoot full-frame at the same speed. The camera has a large buffer for this speed. Moreover, the number of shots that fit into the buffer does not depend on the use of functions that improve the image, for example, such as suppressing the noise level at high ISO values or correcting lens distortions.
On average, when shooting in continuous high speed mode, the buffer contains:
- 16 JPEG images in X.Fine (super fine) quality, L: 36M
- 13 RAW format shots
- 13 RAW + JPEG shots
However, after taking a series of shots, the camera spends quite a lot of time (up to tens of seconds) on writing heavy files to a memory card.
Sony a7R with lens Sony FE 3.5-5.6 / 28-70 OSS SEL2870
For many users, the Sony a7R is simply interesting as a digital backdrop for manual optics. The camera has a short working distance and therefore theoretically any lens can be mounted on it. By the way, videographers can also use any cinema lenses on Sony a7R. For cameras with E-mount, third-party manufacturers even make adapters that allow you to use autofocus optics from other manufacturers.
The camera weighs about 465 grams, so with a serious body kit there may be inconvenience with the distribution of weight.
Sony a7R with lens Canon EF-S 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 IS IIinstalled using an adapter Metabones Canon EF - Sony E
Of course, the Sony a7R uses an electronic viewfinder itself EVI quite pleasant at 2.359.000 points with an increase of 0.71x. On Sony a7R, I personally do not like a long time to initialize image output to EVI or camera display. You can also see through a 3-inch deflectable display at 1.230.000 points.
Sony a7R with lens Industar-50-2 3.5 / 50
And of course, the Sony a7R is stuffed with various functions:
- Picking with setting the color of the selection of contours and their intensity.
- Zebra and manual focus assist.
- HDR and ADR with different intensity settings.
- A variety of creative styles and drawing effects.
- A micro-HDMI port with support for 4K photo output and uncompressed video output.
- The camera uses one universal slot for two types of memory cards - SD (SDHC, SDXC) and Memory Stick Duo (Pro Duo, Pro-HG Duo)
- Connector for microphone and headphone, as well as USB 2.0.
- Face recognition.
- Built Wi-Fi module for transferring pictures.
- The auto-ISO function, however, is a pity that you can not set limits on the range and maximum value excerpts. In this case, only the range of ISO 100-6400 for photos and ISO 200-6400 for video is used.
- Quick panorama mode.
- Video 1920 x 1080 (60p, 60i, 24p) AVCHD or 1440 x 1080 (30p) MP4 and more.
Sony a7R with lens Helios-44 2/58
The weak point of the camera is the battery, which, with the active use of the camera, lasts only 300-400 shots. Sony a7R is quite voracious in terms of power consumption and you can’t shoot a long period on a single charge. On a trip to the outskirts of Kiev, I was pretty much helped by an external USB-battery for my phone (Genius 2500 mAh). The camera charges via USB, so I was able to easily recharge the camera with an extra battery. Unfortunately, the Sony a7R cannot immediately work from the USB port, you must definitely wait for the main battery to charge.
Here link to the archive with the originals - 1.38 GB, 40 .ARW photos (RAW) Also, photos taken on the Sony Alpha 7R, can be found in the reviews: Sony FE 3.5-5.6 / 28-70 OSS SEL2870, Helios-44 2/58, Industar-50-2 3.5 / 50, Metabones NF-E mount и Metabones EF-E mount adapter.
Personal experience shooting with the Sony a7R camera
I have been using the camera for a week. All the hymns of praise for this camera that are stuffed with the Internet are smashed to smithereens on the focusing system and EVI. I shot on May 9th, walks in Kiev, visited Sony a7R on a small trip to the bunkers near Belogorodka, tried to shoot animals and flowers, and everywhere I ran into very slow and almost useless auto focus... Even in the case of successful (according to the camera) focusing and the taken picture, you are still playing the 'sharp / unsharp' lottery. I believe that such focusing quality is unacceptable for a camera that Sony often refers to as a professional segment. Shooting even slightly moving objects is not for the faint of heart.
For myself, I concluded that Sony a7R - excellent device for working with almost any manual optics, or for manual focus operation. The picture from the Sony a7R is very saturated, there is a large dynamic range and color depth, and the camera noises more than modern full-frame cameras. I think that the camera is good use for shooting landscapes, architecture, certain types of subject and macro photography, wherever fast focus is required. Personally, I was interested in Sony a7R in the quality of the camera, on which you can test any (due to the short working distance) optics :). But use Sony a7R even as a second / spare camera, I would not.
Of course, when using a camera with 'A-mount' lenses using an adapter Sony LA-EA4 speed, accuracy and focusing tenacity are comparable to those of SLT cameras, but there are still certain drawbacks. The main ones are the absence of 'A-mount' lenses with a stabilizer, the loss of 1/3 of the luminous flux due to the translucent mirror of the adapter, strong focusing points in the center of the frame, the high cost of the adapter, etc.
In addition to very slow focusing, I was very bothered by the slow inclusion EVI or Live View when Sony a7R wakes up from standby. This is an unbearable hard labor - look in black for seconds EVImissing interesting shots. And this is the first camera in which an attempt to sort out the menu makes me just put the camera aside and go have some tea.
You can look at prices for Sony a7R in popular online stores at this link, or in the price block below:
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Sony ILCE-7R is an ambiguous, but in any case, a very interesting camera :)
All Sony FE Lenses and Cameras
Fixes:
- Sony FE 14 mm F / 1.8 GM [April 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 20 mm F / 1.8 G [February 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24 mm F / 1.4 GM [September 2018, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24 mm F / 2.8 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28 mm F / 2.0 [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 GM [January 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.4 ZA [August 2014]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 1.8 [July 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 35 mm F / 2.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 40 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.2 GM [March 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 ZA [July 2016]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2023]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 1.8 [March 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.8 Macro [August 2016]
- Sony FE 50 mm F / 2.5 G [March 2021]
- Sony FE 55 mm F / 1.8 ZA [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.4 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 85 mm F / 1.8 [February 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 90 mm F / 2.8 Macro G OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 100 mm F / 2.8 STF GM OSS [February 2017]
- Sony FE 135 mm F / 1.8 GM [February 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 300 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [November 2023]
- Sony FE 400 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [June 2018]
- Sony FE 600 mm F / 4 GM OSS [June 2019]
Zuma:
- Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 2.8 GM [July 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 12-24 mm F / 4 G [May 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-25 mm F / 2.8 G [April 2024]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM [May 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 2.8 GM II [August 2023]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm T / 3.1 PZ G C [November 2020]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [September 2014, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 16-35 mm F / 4 PZ G [March 2022, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 20-70 mm F / 4 G [January 2023]
- Sony FE 24-50 mm F / 2.8 G [February 2024]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM [February 2016, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 2.8 GM II [April 2022, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-70 mm F / 4 ZA OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-105 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 24-240 mm F / 3.5-6.3 OSS [March 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-60 mm F / 4-5.6 [September 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-70 mm F / 3.5-5.6 OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 28-135 mm F / 4 G PZ OSS [September 2014]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS [October 2017]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 2.8 GM OSS II [October 2021]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 G OSS [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 70-200 mm F / 4 G Macro OSS II [July 2023]
- Sony-FE 70-300 mm F / 4.5-5.6 G OSS [March 2016]
- Sony FE 100-400 mm F / 4.5-5.6 GM OSS [April 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony FE 200-600 mm F / 5.6-6.3 G OSS [June 2019, AliExpress price]
Autofocus full-frame lenses for Sony E / FE mount are also available from other manufacturers:
- SIGMA DG A/C/S: 14 / 1.8A, 14/1.4A DN, 15/1.4A DN Fisheye, 17/4C DN, 20 / 1.4A, 20/1.4A DN, 20/2C DN, 24 / 1.4A, 24/1.4A DN, 24/2CDN, 24/3.5C DN, 28 / 1.4A, 35/2C DN, 35 / 1.4A, 35/1.4A DN, 35/1.2A DN, 40 / 1.4A, 45/2.8C DN, 50/2C DN, 50 / 1.4A, 50/1.4A DN, 50/1.2A DN, 65/2C DN, 70 / 2.8A, 85 / 1.4A, 85/1.4A DN, 90/2.8C DN, 105 / 1.4A, 105/2.8A DN, 135 / 1.8A, 500/5.6S DN + 14-24/2.8A DN, 16-28/2.8C DN, 24-70/2.8A DN, 28-70/2.8C DN, 70-200/2.8S DN, 100-400/5-6.3CDN, 150-600/5-6.3S DN, 60-600/4.5-6.3S DN (A-ART, C - CONTEMPORARY, S-SPORT)
- Samyang: 14/2.8, 18/2.8, 24/2.8, 24/1.8, 35/2.8, 35/1.8, 35/1.4, 35 / 1.4 II, 45/1.8, 50/1.4, 50 / 1.4 II, 75/1.8, 85/1.4, 85 / 1.4 II, 135/1.8 + TBU, 35-150/2-2.8 + V-AF range
- Tamron: 20/2.8, 24/2.8, 35/2.8 + TBU, TBU, TBU, TBU, 28-75/2.8G2, 28-200/2.8-5.6, 35-150/2-2.8, 50-400/4.5-6.3, TBU, 70-180/2.8G2, 70-300/4.5-6.3, 150-600/5-6.7
- felttrox: 16/1.8, 20/2.8, 24/1.8, 28/1.8, 35/1.8, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85 / 1.8 II
- Zeiss batis: 18/2.8, 25/2, 40/2, 85/1.8, 135/2.8
- yongnuo: 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85 / 1.8 II
- tokina: 20/2, 85/1.8, 100/2.8
- Meike: 50/1.8, 85/1.8, 85/1.4
- TTArtisan: 32/2.8
- AstrHori: 85/1.8
- laowa: 10/2.8
- 7Artisans: 50/1.8
- Nikon f (AF, AF-S, AF-P, AF-I) -> Sony E/FE
All Full Frame Sony E-mount Cameras
- Sony a7 [October 2013, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7II [November 2014, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7III [February 2018, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7IV [October 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r [October 2013]
- Sony a7rII [June 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r III/IIIA [October 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7r IV/IVA [July 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7rV [October 2022]
- Sony a7s [April 2014]
- Sony a7s II [September 2015, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7s III [July 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9 [April 2017, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9II [October 2019, AliExpress price]
- Sony a9III [November 2023]
- Sony a1 [January 2021]
- Sony a7c [September 2020, AliExpress price]
- Sony a7cII [August 2023]
- Sony a7cr [August 2023]
- Sony FX3 [February 2021, AliExpress price]
- Sony ZV-E1 [March 2023]
Materials on the topic
- Full frame mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems... Discussion, choice, recommendations.
- Cropped mirrorless systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- Digital SLR systems that have stopped or are no longer developing
- JVI or EVI (an important article that answers the question 'DSLR or mirrorless')
- About mirrorless batteries
- Simple and clear medium format
- High-speed solutions from Chinese brands
- All fastest autofocus zoom lenses
- All fastest AF prime lenses
- Mirrored full frame on mirrorless medium format
- Autofocus Speed Boosters
- One lens to rule the world
- The impact of smartphones on the photography market
- What's next (smartphone supremacy)?
- All announcements and novelties of lenses and cameras
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Eh, it would be damn interesting to try shooting at ISO XNUMX thousand ...
PS IHMO, the crumb-cameras, coupled with the giant lenses, look funny :)
Yeah, especially if you zgaduish plyvka Kodak 100,200,400 ... From todib htos saying scho bude iso 400000 ... :-))))
A truly honest review! The camera is not only a matrix, but also a body, viewfinder, autofocus, etc. It's better to add a little and buy a D800 / D800e. It will be much more convenient.
They compared the professional mirror with some kind of stuffing :). Arkady, Sonya won’t give you anything else! LIKE!
Prof. in my opinion 2 digits, not 3.
"Prof in my opinion 2 digits, not 3." - is this, for example, Nikon D40 professional?))
Wrong. Nikon has a silly mark.
Agree
Two numbers are nowhere prof. Nor in Nikon, nor in Canon :)
100% agree. I bought this camera. And after some time, I sell.
Such a moment - all these adapters, rings and universal focusing rings with manual old lenses - some kind of mouse fiddling turns out when I was looking for these rings, this adapter, which, by the way, devours 1 stop because of a translucent mirror. And 15 focus points, any compact has more focus points.
For reliable and thoughtful work you need a system perfected.
And this system is NIKON. In particular Nikon D810.
The a7R does not have a hybrid focusing system with built-in phase sensors, and therefore can only focus using contrast detection, which is nowadays a rather outdated technology, especially for mirrorless cameras. >> the author, you have beguiled the coast
Be a little more informative, do not hesitate to express in an accessible way what exactly you mixed up :)
even a 3-year-old system camera like Panasonic GF3 focuses faster than modern Nikon DSLRs like 3100 - 3200. Phase sensors are mounted out of desperation only by obvious outsiders in focusing systems like Sony
To make it clear that this is precisely the inconsistency of focusing in contrast, which is used on the Sony a7r, I corrected the text.
The fact is that the matrix is most likely old and not designed for a mirrorless (as Arkady correctly noted, this is a matrix most likely D800), therefore, without built-in phase sensors, and therefore too slow. By definition, contrast autofocus is hard to make fast, because it is not clear where to move - forward or backward. And Sony just probably decided to cut the loot from the old matrices that Nikon did not take, that's all.
Contrast autofocus can be made fast, but for this you need, firstly, a high-speed lens that can quickly rustle lenses, and secondly, a high speed of reading the image from the matrix. This, apparently, is the problem with this matrix. Well, you need a high processor processing speed, but I think there are no problems with this in modern cameras. And if you add to this conventional SLR lenses, whose focusing motors are relatively slow, the brakes multiply and get such a terrible result.
The 28-70 lenses move quickly, but the camera takes a long time to “detect”.
After the M9 watering can, there was the Sony RX-1, then the Sony 7r appeared ... A very ambiguous impression from the 7, you can expect anything. Especially in the reportage ..! Today I would not take XNUMXr to consider all the options for a new camera. And Sony are bastards in pricing! ..
Summing up all of the above, we can assume that the matrix is still the bottleneck in this system. And if the speed limit of continuous shooting of 4 frames for non-specific tasks is more than enough, then the resulting autofocus retardation cannot be reconciled, especially against the background of quite a fast young Sony NEX-3N. In addition, contrast focusing puts an end to the use of the entire fleet of manual optics in manual focus mode with auto-confirmation.
I shot it on a manual with focus peaking - and without auto confirmation it is normal.
Dear Oleg, are you so impudent in real life, or are you only capable of being rude in virtual life? The author, using naked altruism, creates a very good resource about photography in general and photographic equipment in particular, and you about the coast ...
Arkady, do not pay attention to anything ... The blog is really cool, very relevant review, I look forward to reviewing a7S
Do not pay attention, he seems to be from Donetsk, we have a lot of these, unfortunately.
Roman, where does Donetsk come from? This is a blog about photography and photography techniques. For such statements, there are special dumps such as Unian :-)
Yes, you don’t talk about Donetsk in vain, I’m sure that there are plenty of normal people there, although I have never been there, and there are enough morons unfortunately everywhere regardless of the region (I’ll say right away that I don’t want to offend anyone, it's just my opinion),
And now about contrast focusing, does speed depend on crop factor? because the larger the matrix, the smaller the depth of field and the more accurate and longer it is necessary to focus with the contrast method, I have an old 2005 soap camera with a 1 / 1,8 matrix so it instantly focuses.
I live here, so I know what I'm talking about. :)
Come on)) You, apparently, have not been anywhere except Donek - there is enough everywhere.
Thank you Arkady for the interesting review, I would say a promising camera, if Sony doesn’t stop production and invent something new, it seems that the model’s restrictions are deliberately introduced, the photographers have to wait a long time, a compact, high-quality, convenient camera with a 35mm sensor, with a capacious battery, somewhere on the Internet I read, mirrorless killers of DSLRs))) FF mirrorless and killers of FF DSLRs))), it’s too early to see, and manufacturers don’t want to step on their heels releasing a product that could cause damage any be your model.
chambers are made every six months.
Blind, wrap in a shiny label.
Nate to you.
Carry your money ...
Yes. Oh.
Horse price.
And not so hot with autofocus.
but Sony nameplate)
Go buy a Watering Can. Do you have children's complexes by brands?
>> Horse price.
There are simply no competitors with a lower price for a similar model for today, so these are unreasonable emotions.
A particle of dirt is not only in the center, but in the upper right corner.
If you restore the details in the sky in the photo of a panorama with a bridge, only in the sky you can see 8 points that need to be removed, and there are more of them and this is at f11. Matrix too close. Such cameras need a free service for cleaning the matrix :) Maybe the price is rather big. are the services of such a service included in it? :)
No, not included :)
Sony has something to work on :), but in general, the review turned out to be interesting - now many know that there is such a camera. The manufacturer has achieved its goal :)
No matter how much he twisted Sonya in his hands, he did not understand what they were trying to achieve. All some g ...
You would be ashamed to flaunt your ignorance. And then you can also say about those who produced you - what they wanted is not clear.
It is especially cool to test a 36-megapixel FF sensor with remarkable Zenith lenses, which have a typical resolution of something like 36 lines / mm. While decent telezoom of the same years like Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f / 2.8-4 has a resolution of up to 68 lines / mm. Author, burn!
In the review there are pictures on other lenses, including Sony’s native kit, just be a little more attentive :) and the camera with interchangeable lenses is designed to work with different lenses :)
Others are not noticeable!
And you will not be anything from Sonya for such a frank review?
Yes, there will be nothing. And what exactly will not be, Sony’s representation will decide later;)
In fact, now the dealerships are playing fairly and stipulate in advance that they are not asking for a laudatory review, but such a review. In the end, black PR is also PR. And I am annoyed by the lack of an optical viewfinder in Sony cameras. Without an optical viewfinder, their main genre is shooting with manual lenses in focus peaking mode.
>> And I'm annoyed by the lack of an optical viewfinder in Sony cameras
Well, sorry, this is one of their main features.
If you like JVI, you don't go to Sonya.
It is for the sake of electronic VI that many take them.
See immediately the picture, what it will be like when shooting, with all the goodies like picking, mesh and horizon,
instantly evaluating real-time exposure.
And not the world through lenses, which will then be depicted in a completely different way.
Exposure compensation is easier to enter.
Yes Oleg is just a troll :)
A troll is not a troll; you don’t need to write nonsense.
hehehe
And what's the difference on what the camera is testing, the review is cool))
>> sensor with excellent Zenith lenses,
These are Zenit cameras, lenses are called differently, but shkolota can’t understand
1.42-45 l / mm is very cool, 36 is good, and 60 is most likely just crap or a slightly different measurement method.
2. The methods are based on contrast, or rather, microcontrast (distinguishability). In a vivitar or any other normal imported optics, it is simply higher (and it can be raised progamously in post-processing) - better glass and enlightenment.
3. The larger the matrix (film frame), the more “omnivorous” the device is in terms of glass quality.
4. The number of pixels, silver crystals, l \ mm optics do not even determine the quality of the photograph by 50%, especially portrait, the image is important and what you want to get as a result.
5. If you want to torment the photo l / mm - take a good macro lens, there is a resolution ...
I realized that everyone was waiting for the Sony a7S test! :) Apparently Sony has outlined a new direction for the development of digital camera stuffing. Increasing the pixel area with modern image processing algorithms promises considerable profits! If only the price ...
This camera is a niche product aimed at wealthy collectors and enthusiasts, landscape painters and studio enthusiasts. This audience does not shoot with whale zooms and industrialists, for them there are native AF fixes, rangefinder watering cans and foits at the price of a budget car. It's pointless to compare this camera with the d800 - they are completely different tools for different purposes. And flat jokes about the nameplate only confirm the presence of psychological complexes in their authors.
Arkady, did you spin the vivid mode harder or are the colors really like that? and then after d300 straight eyes cuts from brightness and juiciness, as it is unnatural everything for my taste
On those photos that were taken in the “saturated” mode, I did not make additional adjustments, I just turned it on and took off.
Covered ... khacha, khacha helios 44 ... Arkady convinced
:))))
Forty turns more, of course, but 44 is also good, especially for its price.
The matrix is very dirty in the sky can be seen strongly. Probably the same minus of such a model
Do not be offended, but this review clearly shows that you are far from the sensible level of a surveyor. So, for beginners to talk about "helios" - yes, but not about serious equipment.
Here is why.
The Sony A7 line of cameras has clear focus and positioning. A7 - mirrorless “for all occasions”, with normal focusing, etc. etc. But with an AA filter and a smaller matrix size. The A7R is a camera directly aimed at landscape photographers: a huge matrix, no AA filter, maximum detail and autofocus, which in landscape photography is generally not even the second, but the tenth thing. That is, the tool is somewhat niche and narrowly focused, and you need to analyze it according to its purpose. And certainly not with helios and industrialists, but with decent optics, as already noted above.
And it turned out that you got behind the wheel of a Formula 1 car, drove through the city, traffic jams and complain about high consumption, inconvenience and low clearance :)
The matrix is the same size !!! What a bias towards helios and industrialists. I myself use the D800 and lenses 24-70 2.8 85 1.8, the lenses are sharp, with accurate focus. But the picture from the old lenses is much more artistic, largely due to its imperfections. And your comparison with the Formula 1 car is very incorrect, it’s rather a muscle car.
This is a common excuse for those who do not have money for modern optics - “the old ones have a more airy / artistic / fabulous picture”, etc. In fact, there are not so many worthy old optics, and it costs on a par with modern ones. And helios with industars are alas, more than mediocre glass in terms of characteristics, especially for modern technology.
It doesn't matter if it's a car or a muscle car. The main thing is the essence.
Smart ass. I would compare the main park of plastic shit and helios, and then I would write. Although Helios are different.
What is the justification? Turn it not about money. I have 24-70 / 2.8L and 70-200 / 2.8 - I really like both, but there are times when I don't need hard sharpness and high resolution, when I want a sharp-soft shot, instead of disgusting sharpness, then I take my Jupiter- 9 85 / 2,0 or Zenitar 50 / 1,7 or Helios 44m-4 58 / 2,0 or Jupiter 37a 135 / 3,5 and get a beautiful picture, the one that breathes
Yeah, a review in the style: "This is a Ferrari junk, you can't go to a barbecue in the forest, you can't bring a refrigerator from a store, it also stands like a plane" :)
The overview is good, the camera is clearly shown from different angles, in addition, at the end there are personal impressions of Arkady, and for the manual he praises this camera. People generally forgot how to read?
That's the point, that this camera from different angles makes no sense to show. Who will write in the review of the microscope about its nailing characteristics?
Excuse me, but what, on the box from Sony is that this camera for a picnic in nature?
Mirrorless Killer!
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My God, what passion !!! And all about what? Well. the firm released another experimental model, well, it tested some ideas - it will take into account the mistakes for the future ... And how else to develop. to improve, if not to let the real consumer evaluate the innovations? Of course, at the expense of him, the consumer. And if he risks money, this is his good will, no one is forcing him to buy. Senile grumbling and anathema to the manufacturer is the weakness of the spirit of a person holding a camera in his hands. Yes, this device is definitely not the height of perfection, although it looks very nice. And in operation not suitable for everyone ... NOT FOR ALL AND NOT FOR EVERYTHING !!! Well, just say: this device will not work for me, I am a great reporter, an amazing portrait painter, an amazing landscape painter, an amazing event worker, a brilliant wedding man…. And for me, they say, a modest worker, this "Sonya" is not a fellow traveler. BUT ONLY TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES, ABOUT PERSONAL FEELINGS, and do not run on the Internet fields with the flag of revolutionaries and do not shout: "Everything is shit, everyone is shit!" You are not humiliating the firm with your base-appellation judgments, you are proving your baseness. It is precisely in the fact that Arkady shares HIS impressions, without imposing them on the reader, that the success of his blog lies. I sympathize with him: intelligence has to resist the rudeness of site visitors.
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Chastkovo will wait with your comment. All the same, the camera is of a high price range, so there are mistakes in the practicality of such a form with such possibilities of imperturbability (a dirty matrix for example), and it is not to blame for any compromises here. The innovations are not guilty of overturning the old way of doing that and pogirshuvati. And those, where the technology develops on the mercy grounds, here I am fit to grow, so everywhere and from everything, not only in photographic technology. That call for the price! I don’t want here as a “middle” price premium product as there are many serious problems in the viconance (focus, lightness of the matrix), which is not a penny on my thought, as to ask for a lot. That і category of clientele for me to be overlooked not to the end of the mind, the video? major? it is possible. That all the same wants to go to marketing, not to rule the parade, but to want a healthy glozd.
What kind of nonsense? Have you forgotten nikon d600? And the fact that the device came to the test after use does not bother you? If there are no compromises for you, then there is no camera for you - nothing is perfect. And before you blame the manufacturer for the lack of common sense, can you try to “turn it on” at your place?
First of all, I’m not going to switch to special features and don’t say anything. I can turn it on, so I won’t tell you if you should go, ok? Shchodo D600, since the real jamb, a known buble has a problem with the matrix and the main problem for servicing in Kiev and check. For me, the product is not a compromise (per Danish hour), why? price. I urge you to ask for nothing for nothing. The same D610 kit is 30% cheaper, and the price for power is the same as for the camera, then the Viber ringtone is D610 + Nikkor 70-200mm f / 4G (for example), even at the price of Sonya’s price (+/- I don’t care for thousands). The compromise is guilty of buti, ale in this product the compromise is for the rahunah, well, as if I had already written the food, I do not mean. Technology doesn’t need to develop, I don’t protest at all, I don’t want to, but on this one, go to the side of the camera.
Well, first of all, how did you put the question to such an answer and get it - henceforth I recommend thinking, ok? Secondly, take the trouble to explain what exactly in this product is a compromise not in favor of the buyer? Thirdly, if you are not in the know, then Nikon D600 / D6100 and Sony A7r have different, each their own, target groups of buyers, so your conditional price comparison with Nikon D610 is about nothing.
Not shannovy, you just run into rudeness, that’s why you don’t write in this manner, ok? I’m guessing, here people will discuss phototechnology, I’m skinned in comments of my thoughts, respect and navigation. Why? Fighting with amateur photographers, it seems like the Danish blog can be hung up, without the image of the opponent, which is one-minded, that’s newer. In this unit, the price is not a compromise (I’m writing about it already three times, I’m reading it and I don’t have to see it for the first time), as the carcasses are so and so on. Porvnyannya z D610 I zrobiv exceptionally from my point of view to my own needs, I can come to my senses, what is the point of dawning around people?
P.S. As if on the menu, talk about yourself, having read your readers and your readers, I don’t know anything about rudeness.
Is the price high in your opinion? Is autofocus weak? There is a Sony A7r model - hybrid focusing, the price is lower, the same “full frame” with a more convenient resolution. Why talk about the lack of common sense? Want a high working ISO - Sony A7s. Little common sense again? Expensive? Go buy Nikon DF! The trouble is, it is even more expensive. Well, maybe we will start looking at the situation as a whole, and not get hung up on one model in isolation from reality?
Reply AM on 19.05.2014/19/11 at XNUMX:XNUMX, there are no more "Reply" buttons.
For the first time you don’t want to read / reason, but I’m writing to you. I am here in the comments buv against mirrorless chi against fіrmy sony? Let’s get away with it, take a ride, I’m only for. At ts_y gіltsі mi I will discuss a7r to that and I am writing my enemy, I will look specifically at the tsyu model. So a7s tse іnshe food, check out I’ll look around Arcadia, when I live, I’ll "twist", won’t be cheap, but the whole thing is on the right (one only info, that’s a ff matrix with 12 megapixels for my soul). Food is "expensive" especially for me not worth it, for less food, I use "varte" and according to the model, I use it, but don't cook.
Here, you contradict yourself. First say that the camera is not for everyone and not for everything (which, in fact, the manufacturer himself says), and then - that the author considers it “for everything”, based on his impressions. Actually, exactly what I wrote about above is the initially erroneous attitude to the object of the survey as a “Bombil-wedding” camera.
Finally I got it !! Alexey receives money for trolling not only from Kenon, but also from Sonya. We still need to agree with Nikon, there will be more room for draw ... creativity. Although an ideological troll is possible, it is also understandable - the main thing is to throw shit on the fan and have fun
I shoot from 8 years to 70 and finally touched the miracle sony7r
Arkady, thanks for the “honest” review. For an ordinary amateur user, it is not so important for what kind of shooting this camera is intended, because an amateur shoots a little of everything and, as a rule, he has one and only camera.
Personal opinion: Sony products are very good in the consumer segment, but today they are not yet able to compete with world leaders at a higher level (audio or photo equipment) (I respect only video equipment from Sony), yes, Sony produces excellent matrices and other individual pieces of electronics, but the finished “products” are far from perfect.
I'm not sure that after such reviews “Sony Ukraine” will continue to provide you with equipment for reviews, but given your independence from “Sony Ukraine”, the loss will be small.
For “a little bit of everything” there is A7. The A7R isn't for everything. I can tell about other Sony cameras and optics, I had a deal. The best impressions. So you don't have to unreasonably talk about the product without being familiar with it.
Alexey
13.05.2014 in 15: 28
For "little by little" there is A7. A7R is not for everything. I can tell about other Sony cameras and optics, I had a business. Impressions are the best. So it is not necessary to speak without reason about a product without being familiar with it.
I do not know for whom the A7R. To me, an amateur, she is not interested because of the above disadvantages and inadequately high cost. Professionals are not interested in principle.
Regarding Sony photography equipment in general: I did not use serious cameras, frivolous ones are interesting only for powerful electronics.
1,5 years ago, a friend was going to buy a camera, he wanted a Sony NEX, I dissuaded him, I bought a Nikon D3100 (small dimensions were important) - I’m satisfied to this day.
Optics from Sony: read the previous review and ask about the price of the lens.
There are also quite decent ones, but the prices, again, are unrealistic. And so in everything - prices are too high in comparison with other manufacturers for similar products.
Again, the versatility of production helps the manufacturer survive, but it is difficult to achieve the highest results.
I am not against Sony cameras at all, someone likes them, but I can’t put them in the same line with Nikon \ Canon \ Pentax.
What? Have you had time to interview all the professionals? How do you measure professionalism - do not offer a measure? Dear, professionalism is determined not by the list of used photographic equipment, but by skills and abilities - here is just the opposite. Your comparison of Nikon D3100 and an unknown model of NEX is more like brain failures - I used both the NEX family and thus the D3100, so you did your friend a disservice, and your friend is happy only because you deprived him of the opportunity to be a satisfied owner of NEX. Sonya's prices are too high, but not for everything and not as you say about it. For everything else, you are also wrong.
"Sonya's prices are overpriced, but not for everything and not as you say about it."
The fact is much overpriced.
And on some models of cameras and lenses, they are very pleasant.
For example, a fresh fifty kopeck Zeiss Sonnar 55 1.8 has no equal in quality and picture for its price.
It is placed both on A7 (R), and on any Nex.
True, the (purely technically gorgeous) Sigma Art 50 1.4 costs almost the same ... but it's hefty and weighs under a kilogram.
I always liked the phrases “I wanted to buy a XXX camera, but dissuaded / changed my mind / was out of stock, bought OUU and I'm happy!”. Everyone praises his own swamp, everything is known in comparison. Without using another camera, you don't have to praise your own and put it higher just because you are “satisfied”. Perhaps, having bought another, I would be even more pleased.
>>> I am not at all against Sony cameras, some people like them, but I personally cannot put them in the same line with Nikon \ Canon \ Pentax.
It's right.
Nikon \ Canon \ Pentax do not make decent mirrorless, unlike Sony-Fuji-Panasonic-Olympus.
Nikon 1 with a micro-matrix, and Canon M so far extremely miserable as system cameras.
So, with all the advantages of the excellent Nikon 7100, if you want no problems with focusing accuracy (tons of complaints about the front-back focus, I shot a lot of mirrors, I am well acquainted with the problem, it is especially acute on younger models, where the software there is no adjustment, and how our services are adjusted ..),
so that in the VI and on the LCD screen (which still doesn’t rotate in 7100), the picture that it will be after shooting is immediately visible, it’s mirrorless.
To put any planar or sonnar without any problems - also to them.
And yet, the tiny Sony A6000's video is much better than the 7000-7100.
Yes, the Canon 70 is better in terms of focusing, it has fast and accurate dualpixel focusing and a good screen. But the soft-lag after shooting each (!) Frame, weight, optical VI ...
No need to go far, here is a comment below
"I have D90 and a frequent front and back focus got out, although all the lenses are aligned in the SC."
And the 90th is far from the youngest model.
Of course, if you always cover the hole to 5.6-8 or more, the problem will be invisible, but if you want more?
No, all this is solved. Just got the front-back problems already.
I probably agree.
yes, I myself am expecting from Nikon a usable device with 12 MP like a 300, coverage with focusing points like a d3200 and a normal noise matrix ... not space ISOs in half a million, but really working 6400 and sane noise at XNUMX
Dmitry:
This is a conversation, this is an exchange of opinions, this is a dialogue between the smart and the smart, and it does not matter how right someone is or not. The respectful message from person to person is important!
The review is good, and, most importantly, honest. After laudatory praises on the Internet - like a breath of fresh air or a bucket of cold water on your head. I am thinking of changing the device in the future, I looked closely at mirrorless cameras, but the review convinces me to wait a while. The cons outweigh the pros yet. Maybe the review of Sony a7S, if it is in the future, will convince me)
Let it be known to you that a professional is not a bomb at a wedding. A7R is addressed to professional landscape photographers for whom the size of the final frame, detail and DD are important. And for weddings, of course, rubbish, not a camera :)
It is not addressed to professionals, but to those who think that they bought a cool camera and immediately a super photographer !. This is how a “pro” sees himself changing the lens in nature once and then retouching debris on a “super-detailed” picture in Photoshop. By the way, I dare to assure you - besides bombing, there are other types of work, where this soap dish, well, how could not sew a sleeve to anything! I repeat - a beautiful, expensive toy ... Practical use - zero! Solid ponty
Why are you so embittered? You also need to be able to change lenses. I have been using Nex for a year and a half, a couple of dozen manual glasses - no dust. Mirrorless is a smart direction. Yes, not all at once. But the future, in my opinion, lies with them.
All the same, it is necessary to clarify the question of professionalism. Just bombed at a wedding, and any other person earning a photograph is a professional, even if not of a high level, or of a very narrow specialization, or vice versa with a wide profile. But perhaps, calling someone a professional, we mean just an experienced lover, even a master, an artist, at last.
It’s interesting for what genre a professional, photo-earning photographer could use a similar technique. Or would a amateur photographer take everything in a row, or maybe not everything in a row, but would he use something mirrorless?
In general, reading a review on a new unfamiliar technique, ideally, I would like to see the scope in the description.
http://vadim-pp.livejournal.com/18012.html
Don't you understand that this is a niche device designed specifically for people photographing themselves in the toilet. Everything suits them both speed and accuracy, and most importantly - status and small size. What are the disputes about?
Regarding the quality of RAW http://blog.lexa.ru/2012/12/29/o_sortakh_raw_u_sony.html
The shutter problem is relevant too.
http://blog.lexa.ru/2014/02/07/sony_a7r_soobrazheniya_pro_vibratsii.html
This is generally a problem with Nexus.
And if the tripod is flimsy (light), then in taking a series of shots (the same HDR) it will be a little lead away, like the barrel of an automatic machine.
Your opinion is interesting as an outsider.
Now a real boom on the old manual optics. Thanks to such cameras, she gained a second life.
Thanks for the links.
There really is a problem with the rams, there is compression with small losses.
And now take a dozen or two frames from Sony and see how it really worsens the picture and whether you can notice the problem even at 100% magnification on the monitor.
I don’t impose my conclusions on anyone, I looked at them and made conclusions for myself.
Excellent overview. Everything is on the case. The devices have drawbacks, in the opinion of the author, he pointed them out. If there are people who don't consider a slow autofocus system or a confusing menu to be disadvantages, they are dear to them. They can indicate in their own blogs these features of the apparatus in the section "Advantages" or "Unimportant for some types of photography (almost all) disadvantages" or I do not even know how they will call them there.
Thanks to the author for the resource.
I’m not too lazy and read on the official sati of this Sony-Ukraine about the camera there is a picture of a girl on a bicycle there. So it’s not only for landscapes that it was made, but the camera should shoot everything and not stupidly excuse itself with statics like this for major landscape painters