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  1. Olga
    04.02.2014

    Helios has beautiful bokeh, and the camera is very expensive, the average person is not pocketed

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    • kotofei
      21.05.2021

      This is not a beautiful bokeh, but an optical defect. And if you look at him for a long time, he can vomit.

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  2. kiev_poznyaki
    04.02.2014

    Thanks, Arkady. Informative and interesting.
    I just don’t understand one thing, what is the point of buying this camera for SUCH money, if for the same amount you can take the top Nikon DX D7100 camera with an 18-105 lens ???

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      04.02.2014

      Well, this is no longer a question for me :)

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    • anonym
      04.02.2014

      Someone also buys "Lakes", although the same quality of images can be obtained much cheaper.

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        The watering can has 50% quality - it is its rangefinder optics, which is incompatible with SLRs due to the long working distance. But on mirrorless cameras you can use it without restrictions

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      • kiev_poznyaki
        05.02.2014

        Leica - that's okay, her name is even sung in our songs (... with Leica and a notebook, or even with a machine gun ...), but here. A soap dish for the price of a top-end DSLR!

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    • Yuriy75
      04.02.2014

      For me it’s better than Samsung NX1100, APS = C matrix, decent quality optics and the price is ridiculous (do not count for advertising).

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      • landco
        04.02.2014

        Samsung's problems with color rendition, serious problems with noise (their APS-C matrix is ​​even noisier than many m4 / 3), also the camera is terribly stupid when recording series in raw (the camera is completely blocked until the queue is added to the card)

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      • anonym
        04.02.2014
      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        now believe dxomark

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      • Igor Transbaikalia
        25.04.2014

        The owner of Samsung NX11 himself is several years old. I confirm the problem with noise on a 14 Mp matrix, above 800 iso can be considered not working at all. But at the expense of colors, no problems. The matrix is ​​very honest (perhaps because the ISO is not inflated). The camera itself is very good and has a bunch of useful little things that many cheap DSLRs definitely rest. Regarding the buffer and brakes - which amateur DSLR has an excellent buffer? Even Sonya's speed shooters freeze after the series. EVI is not a problem at all, you just need to adapt, and it is much more informative for DSLRs: You immediately see the result and a lot of information (no need to be distracted by the screen, looking at the histogram). An excellent park of very high-quality optics at great prices. The following models NX20 and NX30 - 20 megapixel sensor with higher working ISO, improved EVF, new shutter (shutter speed 8000), phase-shift sensors. In general, decent devices.

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    • anonym
      04.02.2014

      Nikon D7100 can not be put in your pocket or purse

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        In fact, the Olympus Pen E-P5 does not fit in your pocket either.

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        even fits with an old film fifty kopeck piece like a conic

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        It will look damn funny, especially if it's jeans, and if it's a regular lens. By the way, from 14-42 I couldn’t do this normally, because I don’t want the legend about the compactness of this camera to continue to mislead people.

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        What jeans? They fell off the oak, is that you, phone?))

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        The conversation was about a pocket, without clarification. If you don’t like jeans, then in my coat this Olympus Pen E-P5 shows not the best compact result :)

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      • R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№
        10.12.2016

        I have such a camera and a 14 mm panablin. I confirm that the camera is not for pocket and heavy. But this is not a compact, in his pocket to carry it. But with the belt on the neck and the armpit under the jacket, it’s not at all noticeable, it doesn’t interfere at all and is even convenient. In the bag, too, does not take up much space, I wear it every day to work. I was afraid that the control would not be convenient, but I liked everything. Two disks and other buttons allow you to configure everything for yourself. If the camera were smaller, it would be inconvenient to hold it and press buttons, which many e-pl owners write about. I like filters, I use black and white, graininess and sepia. In general, the camera is pleased, both externally and with functionality, ergonomics and picture quality, too.

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      You are in Kiev, judging by your nickname. Then yes - you can take the D7100, with it just on the barricades it is good to fight off the golden eagle

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        Oleg, this is a narrow-profile blog, please do not need non-core topics here.

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      • kiev_poznyaki
        05.02.2014

        Why should I fight him off? Firstly, the site is not political, and secondly, see firstly))

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      • not oleg and thank god
        02.08.2016

        really oleg

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    • varezhkin
      12.02.2014

      +100

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  3. Alex
    04.02.2014

    I shoot on Panas of this standard (Micro 4/3), DMC-GF3 on a kit of 14-42 mm, the quality is really good. especially RAW.

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      zoom lenses have worse quality.

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  4. Alexander
    04.02.2014

    Was somehow the owners of this system with the camera e-pl1 ... twice.
    The quality of images during the day was very high, even with a whale lens with an open aperture. Compactness and lightness also played an important role. Of course, it was difficult to focus with a manual lens, but I even managed to shoot with Jupite-21m. Then I wanted to try a mirror, represented by Nikon d5100, but it didn't work out and I bought such a camera again just from my hands already. By the way, I always shot in jpeg in M ​​mode. After that I switched to a mirror, but alas, jpeg did not give such a picture, now I almost always shoot in raw, and I also want to take this camera “for all occasions”. There are a lot of reviews on it, and the Olympus wrote that the second and third models did not give the same picture. I don't know how things are now ...

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  5. Glory
    04.02.2014

    What was the difficulty in focusing on manual lenses? Judging by the review, the device has a so-called. “Picking” - which should, in theory, simplify focusing.

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      There is a nuance - the larger the aperture, the worse the picking works. For example, on Konica Hexanon AR 57mm at f1.2 there will be problems.

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      04.02.2014

      When you shoot with your hands, when focusing on a telephoto lens (Alexander pointed to Jupiter-21 with a focal length of 200 mm), even with the stabilizer turned on and the part of the frame is enlarged, the picture shakes and jerks a lot, which is a great difficulty for me personally when shooting on a manual and Live View .

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        And without Live View through the viewfinder, do you have problems with unstabilized manual telephoto lenses?

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        Oleg, there is its own specifics, I do not want to say that this method is bad, only shared my observations and formed a real problem with such work. With JVI has its drawbacks, this is logical.

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    • Alex
      07.02.2014

      Not all 4/3 micro cameras from Olympus have picking.

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  6. Oleg
    04.02.2014

    Small frame buffer is a common thing for such cameras >> the author is out of topic. In the younger E-PM2 series - 27 raw

    The image quality of the E-P5 is still close to that of an entry-level cropped DSLR >> in the DXOmark E-P5 rating it is 70 positions higher than the Canon EOS 6D, which is far from the entry level.

    The camera uses focus only for contrast, however, the focusing speed is fast >> generally speaking, it should be noted that the author is far behind progress. For example, in the new Panasonic cameras, contrast focusing competes in speed with the top reportage DSLRs such as D4 and 1D-x, even in low light conditions. purely for understanding how good contrast focusing works in a dark room (this is the entry-level mirrorless camera of the previous generation, in the new ones it is even faster) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuukCEA4dgI

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      04.02.2014

      Do not confuse the series and the buffer, these are different things, in detail I wrote about this for a long time https://radojuva.com.ua/2013/06/buffer-size-slr/ ... Since you already speculate on the DXOmark rating, then take the trouble to point out that the Pen E-P5 is in 72nd place (seventy-second place), as well as the fact that according to DXOmark, Nikon amateur cameras of the most entry level outperform Canon 1DX, which should at least push a person with common sense to delve a little into the methodology of their assessment and not rush the rating blindly. As for focusing, I have never written anywhere in the review that contrast focusing is bad, it is written in black and white “nevertheless, the focusing speed is fast”, because phase focusing is always fast and on all cameras, and “by contrast,” you need to look at each camera separately. Please do not suck out of your finger what is not.

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  7. Oleg
    04.02.2014

    Don't confuse series and buffer, they are different things >> and what is the difference?

    and the fact that, according to DXOmark, Nikon's entry-level amateur cameras outperform Canon 1DX >> not cameras, but sensors. this is not surprising, because the 5300, for example, has a new sensor, in contrast to the 1D-x. in addition, it must be remembered that reportage cameras have specific requirements for the quality of the sensor. The reportage must be low-noise, but it can be inferior in color rendition and resolution.

    because phase focusing is fast always and on all cameras, and "by contrast" - you need to look at each camera separately >> boogah :) go back 18 years, when the digital camera just appeared, and tell us about the speed of phase focusing :)

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      04.02.2014

      1. The link indicated by me in the previous answer describes the difference, take the trouble to familiarize yourself.
      2. That is why you need to understand that different, as you put it, "specific requirements."
      3. I have to tell: I used the most ancient digital-mirror cameras (in their classical sense, and not 18 years ago), for example, Nikon D1h, the speed (namely speed) of focusing did not differ much from modern CZKs. Yes, and I can say the same thing about accuracy, there is no grandiose jump, there is just a refinement of the system, an increase in the number of sensors, etc.

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        I meant the length of the series that fits in the buffer

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        If there are as many as 2 RAW buffers in E-PM27, then this is just wonderful, although I am very surprised that the camera, which is considered to be "younger" in comparison with the same e-p5, has a larger real buffer. My e-p5 from the review honestly filmed its 17-18 frames and began to slow down, the number of frames before slowing down I counted on the card.

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        The E-PM2 is an Olympus overdone camera. By the way, according to DXOmark it is the leader among m4 / 3 in terms of low noise. It even has 25600 readable, oddly enough.

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        Really interesting, thanks for sharing the information, maybe you can take it for review :)

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        “Overdone” in the sense of the quality of the sensor and some characteristics do not correspond to its budget position in the line

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        In fact, some budget mirrorless cameras can shoot unlimited bursts in RAW by spitting on the buffer. For example, GF5 - it is 12-megapixel, the size is 14MB, taking into account that there is support for UHS-I, it will reset 90mb / s on fast cards like SanDisk Extreme Pro before the memory is full.

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  8. Iv.an
    04.02.2014

    4/3 dies, apparently because they gave Arkady a camera for review

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      where did you get that?

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    • kotofei
      21.05.2021

      2021. all died. all have smartphones

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  9. Iv.an
    04.02.2014

    Mirrors because they bypassed them a long time :)

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      are you a fool?) mirrorless appeared a couple of years ago

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      • Arkady Shapoval
        04.02.2014

        Please, no offense.

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  10. Iv.an
    04.02.2014

    So what about a couple of years ago, should I wait until they reach the level of an adequate camera ??

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  11. Oleg
    04.02.2014

    By the way, have you already used Olympus' branded rabbi converter? They say that there is non-disable noise reduction by default (although in theory, this is more a property of third-party converters such as ACDsee)

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      04.02.2014

      No, only with a third-party converter, for review I shot RAW + JPEG. I also read that you can’t disable it.

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    • Victor
      18.12.2016

      In principle, it is not possible to use the RAW converter from Olympusa, even on the top hardware, after each mouse click, you have to wait half a minute .. (

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  12. d.martyn
    04.02.2014

    Something off topic again. See news from Hasselblad faster !!!!!!!!

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  13. Oleg
    04.02.2014

    Thanks for the review. I was really looking forward to this article, but for myself I couldn’t find an answer to whom this class of price cameras was designed to bite. As I understand it, the optical viewfinder is missing for me is a minus. Pleased with the design and relative compactness. I still have a Lumix LZ-6 which I can’t dare to call a soap box, it gives pictures no worse than a budget DSLR, it’s compact and its price is cheap compared to this camera, of course it doesn’t have interchangeable lenses, but why overpay for a good shot . For professional shooting, this camera is not suitable for the money; you can buy a semi-professional SLR

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      I still have a Lumix LZ-6 which I can’t call my tongue a soap box, it gives pictures no worse than budget DSLRs >> watch, learn the hardware http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9663/kmvo.jpg

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      • Oleg
        04.02.2014

        I meant the quality of the finished image, and not the size of the matrix, most people look at the picture, and not consider the size of the matrix. And it is not always possible to distinguish a picture taken by a soap box, a DSLR or a mirrorless mirror. And judging by the size of the matrix, then if I’m not mistaken, there is a mirrorless Canon with the size of the APS-C matrix and the price two times lower

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  14. Vampire
    04.02.2014

    Guys, please respect the author's work! No need to get personal. Uv. Iv.An, you don't have to wait for anything! The OM-D E-M5 was the best-selling camera in the USA, and was only replaced by the OM-D E-M1, so whether the micro 4/3 is dead is up to you. About focusing speed, uv. Arkady, for example, on Nikon D3100, the focusing seemed to me slow ... I myself shoot with OM-D E-M5, basically, I was bought with a kit 14-42. Keith didn't seem bad until he took pictures with manual (high-end) optics ... Since then Keith has been playing the role of a plug ...

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  15. Oleg
    04.02.2014

    For me, all the same, this is an attempt to combine glamor and creativity in one hand. There are Vertu phones at fabulous prices, although its main function is to call

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    • Anonymous 1
      05.02.2014

      Well done! Very accurately put it! And in the days of the film, companies produced very non-standard and very expensive, small-scale cameras designed for the status consumer. Every big businessman has a pen with a gold nib (at least in the West), and it “works” during the signing of contracts, although an ordinary parker-like pen will sign the document no worse. It is prestigious, high-status, to produce devices like the Olympus under discussion, and speaks of the technical and aesthetic potential of the manufacturer. Therefore, whether we scold such devices or praise them, they will still be invented, not for sale to us, skeptics, but in order to present a new achievement. In addition, such developments are useful for many innovative ideas that are later introduced into practice. Think of the APS system ...

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      • Oleg
        05.02.2014

        For me, all the same, there is not enough electronic viewfinder (I called it optical above) To shoot with manual optics focusing on the screen is probably hard for such money you can’t skimp on it. Although the guy mentioned the OM-D E-M5 model above, here I think it's the perfect flagship of this class. It is possible in a few years when prices go down, and the technologies are polished and a whole range of lenses will be released for them, they can very well select a market segment from DSLRs. In general, these models reminded me of film cabinets and not a rangefinder and not a DSLR, such is some kind of intermediate option.

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  16. Sergei
    04.02.2014

    I can say one thing - thanks to Arkady for the test and work. Ps Oleg, where can you see your work?

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    • Oleg
      04.02.2014

      I don’t bother much about it, but something here http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/olegtaranenko2009-taranenko/

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      • anonym
        05.02.2014

        photos are not very, very ordinary

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      • Oleg
        05.02.2014

        But so is the budget canon1100d camera and the kit lens, plus several of the Soviet optics helios 44-2 and jupiter37a. The minimum cost for shooting for the soul is enough for me. In principle, following the principle of Arkady, in order to take good-quality pictures, it is not necessary to chase expensive equipment. The budget of this set of 4000 hryvnias for a family home is enough for me. Thanks to Arkady for the great reviews.

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      • Dmitriy
        06.02.2014

        I think that Anonymous rated your photos as "not very" not because of the cheap camera and optics. The reason is in the composition of the frame - in the greater half of the photo, the horizon is either overwhelmed or strictly in the center, it looks very bad ... IMHO, of course :)

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      • Basil
        08.02.2014

        Pictures as pictures, for those purposes that stated will go!
        Oleg continue to shoot =) and do not listen to anyone =)

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      • Dmitriy
        09.02.2014

        That's right, Oleg, do not pay attention to the comments! _irony_

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  17. Alexander
    05.02.2014

    Nice camera. Of course, there is also a junior budget model “EPM-2”, which also shoots well. Of course, these cameras are designed as a camera for every day, which can easily fit in a jacket pocket or put in a small purse.

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    • Maksim
      05.02.2014

      Skills have already been said and tested in practice, what is the compactness of this (the same) camera in the masses, it’s too much, so how can your jacket be cleaned up? Knowledge of functions, functions and extensive, ale price, compactness, ergonomics of the best. When bartosti 10-11 thousand UAH. for Kit wait, you can get a bagato vibe.

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    • Denis
      05.02.2014

      “As a camera for every day, which can easily fit in a jacket pocket” cameras with interchangeable lenses are basically not suitable as such. I only have Sony NEX-3 with Industar-22 (which is foldable, and even then it did not fold completely) with grief in half crammed into my pocket. A camera with a non-retractable lens like a soap dish and a normal matrix (if not APS-C, then at least 3/4) will by definition be large.
      And this device is more likely to go to some event to show off, for everyday shooting it is stupid to carry this relatively expensive and large colossus - it's better to buy something cheaper and at the same time better.

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  18. Anonymous 1
    06.02.2014

    Yes, yes, the designers simply slept and saw Industar on their brainchild! The camera was calculated right under it! They say that you can add wheels to a Mercedes from a garden tractor,
    and so significantly increase the cross-country ability of the "Merina" in the swamps of Belarus ...

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  19. Exhausted
    06.02.2014

    4/3 doesn’t die, of course, as it was said here. However, she doesn’t have a future in professional shooting, in my opinion. The reasons are greater, in comparison with the FF matrices, the depth of field, higher noise at high ISO, Less wide DD, Less smooth changes in midtones. I think the price of the Pen-E-P5 is astronomical, but is it worth it?

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  20. Alexander
    06.02.2014

    I think that there is a buyer for every camera. Of course, for most amateur photographers, this technique is very expensive. But those who have the means and need a camera with which they do not need to bother too much, and at the same time create good pictures, then ...

    And for those who want to get a compact and affordable camera, that is, Olympus PEN E-PM1

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  21. Oleg
    06.02.2014

    Yes, hot topic touched on mirrors against mirrorless

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  22. Vasilii
    06.02.2014

    1500 tanks for a mirrorless camera with a crop factor of 2 ?! On Amazon for the same price, you can take Nikon D600. It’s just crazy. But ... As one American pointed out here - the best-selling model in the states. Mysterious American Soul ...

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  23. Zmitser
    06.02.2014

    Arkady, how do you feel there is inconvenience due to the low weight of the carcass when used with an iron-glass lens?

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    • Arkady Shapoval
      06.02.2014

      When used with Helios-44m-4 MS and Industar-50-2, inconvenience was not observed. I didn’t use it with the rest.

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  24. Abram
    07.02.2014

    I have been shooting for a year on Sony NEX-6, mainly with manual optics, and against the background of this sense, I see almost no in this Olympus at this price.

    A very serious advantage, of course, is the built-in stabilizer. I would give dearly for having one in my dormouse. Another major plus can be considered that c-mount lenses will become such a native camera, among which there are many interesting specimens (you can also put these on Sony, but they will give strong vignetting), and this is not counting the wide selection of modern Optics format MFT.

    The rest is somehow not too impressive.

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  25. anonym
    24.03.2014

    What nonsense? I click on Fuji S5 Pro, Olympus pops up? ...

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