Choosing a Canon SLR Camera

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Every day in the comments on my blog 'Radozhiva' the same question is heard - 'which Canon SLR camera to buy?'. In this article I will share my thoughts on this. Please note that the article is very full of subjective factors, since there are a lot of little things to consider when choosing a camera. I work as a professional photographer, and also do reviews of photographic equipment, shoot on almost all Canon and Nikon SLR cameras, you can say I ate a dog with these cameras and lenses.

Canon EOS SLR Camera Selection

Canon EOS SLR Camera Selection

All Canon digital SLR cameras can be divided into 3 classes:

  1. Amateur - These cameras are aimed at people who just need to get a high-quality photo without understanding the intricacies and settings of the camera. Most often, amateur cameras are best suited for people who do not take pictures professionally, but simply want a good camera for home, leisure, travel, family, nature, etc., so that the camera is light, easy to operate and inexpensive. Actually, Canon has the largest range of cameras in this segment.
  2. Advanced amateur - have advanced functionality with a large number of specific settings that you can deal with for a long time. These cameras are suitable for advanced amateurs who already know the settings, or want to get good potential for mastering skills in photography. Also, these cameras are noticeably more expensive and heavier. A distinctive feature of advanced amateur cameras is the presence of an additional monochrome display on the top panel of the camera, which helps to quickly access a number of settings.
  3. Professional - these cameras are designed for people who take professional photographs, know a lot about photography and are not afraid of manual settings. Typically, these cameras have a much better body and functionality. A distinctive feature of such cameras is the lack of a built-in flash (for the pros it is not particularly important). Usually these are full-format cameras or cameras with crop factor Kf = 1.3. Also, cameras of the highest price range have a combo case with a special additional handle that helps to keep the camera in portrait (vertical) orientation. I do not specifically touch upon this class of cameras in this article, because there is a million and one nuances in choosing professional equipment, and professionals themselves often know which camera they need.

For beginners and amateurs, I recommend Canon amateur cameras, which are represented in 2017 by 17 models.

The camera is a complex technical device, and the equipment does not stand still. In the tablet I indicated your rating of cameras based on the date the camera was released and its technical characteristics. I think that now the best amateur camera is the Canon 800D, this can be seen from the table below.

When choosing a camera I do not recommend paying much attention to the number of megapixels, in most cases, a huge number of megapixels is not in demand and even unnecessarily, in more detail in sections Battle of Megapixels, Gigapixels и Pixels and Subpixels.


Canon 800D is primarily interesting for its swivel touch screen, fast continuous shooting and excellent video quality.

Rating Model Year MP Frame per second Focus points Video Dislpey
1 850D 2020 winter 24,1 7 45 (45 k, Dual Pixel AF) 4K 24p, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
2 800D 2017 winter 24,2 6 45 (45 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
3 760D 2015 winter 24,2 5 19 (19 k, Hybrid AF 3) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
4 750D 2015 winter 24,2 5 19 (19 k, Hybrid AF 3) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
5 250D 2019 spring 24,2 5 9 (1 k, Dual Pixel AF) 4K 25 fpsstereo sound, focus tracking 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
6 200D 2017 summer 24.0 5 9 (1 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 60i, mono sound, tracking focus 3.2-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
7 2000D 2018 winter 24.0 3 9 (1 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 920 pixels
8 700D 2013 spring 17,9 5 9 (9K, Hybrid AF) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
9 650D 2012 summer 17,9 5 9 (9K, Hybrid AF) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
10 100D 2013 spring 17,9 4 9 (1 k, Hybrid AF 2) Full HD 30fps, mono sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, touch
11 600D 2011 winter 17,9 3,7 9 (1 k) Full HD 30 stereo sound 3-inch, 1 pixels, swivel
12 550D 2010 summer 17,9 3,7 9 (1 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 3-inch, 1 pixels
13 1300D 2016 winter 17,9 3 9 (1 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 3-inch, 920 pixels
14 1200D 2014 winter 17,9 3 9 (1 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 3-inch, 460 pixels
15 4000D 2018 winter 17,9 3 9 (1 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 2.7-inch, 230 pixels
16 500D 2009 spring 15,1 3,4 9 (1 k) Full HD 20fps, mono sound 3-inch, 920 pixels
17 1100D 2011 winter 12,2 3 (2, 0.8) 9 (1 k) HD 720p 30fps, mono sound 2.7-inch, 230 pixels
18 1000D 2008 summer 10,1 3 (1.5) 7 (1k) LiveView only 2.5-inch, 230 pixels
19 450D 2008 winter 12,2 3,5 9 (1 k) LiveView only 3-inch, 230 pixels
20 400D 2006 summer 10,1 3 9 (1 k) No 2.5-inch, 230 pixels
21 350D 2005 winter 8 3 7 (1 k) No 1.8 inches, 118 pixels + monochrome
22 300D 2003 summer 6,3 2,5 7 (1 k) No 1.8 inches, 118 pixels + monochrome

In the plate in the column about focusing points, the letter 'k' means the number of cross-shaped focusing points. Such points help better cope with focusing in difficult conditions. For details on how focus points work on Canon cameras, see 'Canon EOS Camera Focus Sensors'. Cameras for which 'Tracking Focus' is not specified will automatically focus when shooting video unless the '*' button is pressed or the shutter button halfway pressed.


About the video: I want to convey to buyers that auto focus on all Canon cameras (except for cameras that support focusing Dual Pixel AF) when shooting a video, it works very poorly. This is due to the fact that the mechanism of a digital SLR camera is poorly adapted for focusing with a raised mirror, which requires a video mode. Typically, focusing when recording video occurs in contrast, rather than using the phase sensors of the camera. Canon says cameras 750D.760D 700D, 650D, 100D they use a hybrid focusing system to achieve fast and accurate focusing when shooting video, but in reality the automatic focusing with these cameras is still quite slow.

The same goes for Nikon SLR cameras and Pentax. If autofocus is very critical when shooting video, then I advise you to look towards Canon cameras with focus Dual Pixel AF, which provides high speed and focus accuracy when shooting video.


Various Canon camera names: 'D', 'Kiss Digital', 'Digital Rebel'

Canon in different countries calls its amateur cameras differently: in Japan they are known by the name 'Kiss Digital'and in the USA under the name'Digital Rebel'. Below is a table of correspondences of names. In Europe and other countries, cameras have a familiar name with the letter 'D'after the model number.

EOS 'D' Digital Rebel Kiss Digital
100D SL1 X7
200D SL2 X9
300D Digital rebel Kiss digital
350D XT n
400D Xti X
450D xSI x2
500D T1i X3
550D T2i X4
600D T3i X5
650D T4i X6i
700D T5i X7i
750D T6i X8i
760D(8000D for Asian markets) T6s
800D T7i X9i
850D T8i X10i
1000D XS F
1100D T3 X50
1200D T5 X70
1300D T6 X80
2000D (1500D for Asian markets) T7 X90
4000D (3000D for Asian markets) T100

Canon EOS 77D for Asian markets may have a name '9000D '.

If you are limited in funds, then a good option for an amateur Canon camera is the simple and affordable Canon 1300D, which, together with a standard (whale) lens, costs about 400 USD.


As for the advanced amateur camera, in my opinion, full-length Canon 6D и Canon 6D MarkII are a very interesting option. If there is no desire to get in touch with the full frame, then Canon is an excellent advanced amateur camera. Canon 7D MarkII.

Rating Model Year MP Frame per second Focus points Video Dislpey
1 Canon 7D MarkII 2014 20,2 10 65 (65 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 60fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels
2 90D 2019 24 11 45 (45 k, Dual Pixel AF) UHD 4K 3840 x 2160 30p, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, touch, swivel
3 80D 2016 24 7 45 (45 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 60fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels
4 77D 2017 24 6 45 (45 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 60fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels
5 70D 2013 summer 20,2 7 19 (19 k, Dual Pixel AF) Full HD 30fps, stereo sound, tracking focus 3-inch, 1 pixels, rotary and touch
6 7D 2009 autumn 17,9 8 19 (19 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 3-inch, 920 pixels
7 60D 2010 summer 17,9 5,3 9 (9 k) Full HD 30fps, mono sound 3-inch, 1 pixels, swivel
8 50D 2008 summer 15,1 6,3 9 (9 k) LiveView only 3-inch, 920 pixels
9 40D 2007 summer 10,1 6,5 9 (9 k) LiveView only 3-inch, 230 pixels
10 30D 2006 winter 8,2 5 9 (1 k) No 2.5-inch, 230 pixels
11 20D 2004 summer 8,2 5 9 (1 k) No 1.8 inches, 118 pixels
12 10D 2003 winter 6,3 3 7 (1k) No 1.8 inches, 118 pixels
13 D60 2002 summer 6,3 3 3 (1k) No 1.8 inches, 118 pixels
14 D30 2000 spring 3,1 3 3 (1k) No 1.8 inches, 114 pixels

I did not include the Canon 20Da and 60Da cameras in the table because of their specific features, which are of little interest to the ordinary amateur photographer. If you have limited means, then a good option for an advanced amateur camera Canon is Canon 70D.



Usually cameras of advanced amateur and professional classes are sold separately from the lens, such a kit is called a 'body', and when a camera is sold with a lens, it is called a 'kit' (this is how cameras from the amateur segment are most often sold), and the lens from the shipment is called a 'whale lens' (sometimes abbreviated and simply called "whale", which creates confusion - both a kit and a lens from such a kit are called the same word).

Attention: you cannot take pictures with one “body” camera, you should always take pictures with a lens :)


Important: usually, if you buy a camera with a whale lens (the so-called whale kit), then such a kit will cost less than buying a camera and the same lens separately.


There are lenses really different, for different purposes and for different tasks. Usually comes with a camera universal standard lensthat can be used for basic tasks. With a standard lens, you can shoot landscapes, close-ups, portraits - almost anything. Most often, the kit contains the cheapest lens of class 18-55 / 3.5-5.6 - Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS or Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 ISII... Also, you can find options with better quality options - Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM or Canon Zoom Lens EF-S 18-135mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM.



The choice of other lenses requires a separate large article, but in addition to the standard (universal whale) lens, I recommend getting a fast, discrete fix the lens. Such a lens does not know how to zoom, but has a higher aperture than "whale". This will allow you to easily shoot in low light conditions, control the depth of field (create blurred background in photos), create a 'bokeh effect', get brighter and more vivid colors in photos.


  1. How to check the camera when buying is described in the section Camera check.
  2. The performance of all Canon cameras can be found here.
  3. You can read general information on the Canon EOS system here.
  4. A list of all Canon EF-S lenses will find here.

My experience

I recommend spending less time choosing a camera - more time will be spent on the photo itself. All cameras are presented in tables (except Canon 6D / 6D MarkII) have the same physical size of the sensor, and therefore at low ISO values, you can get good photos with the same probability. The camera is not always plays a decisive role When creating great photos, the skills of the photographer, lens and light sources are almost always more important. For example, below are my shots on the very first digital SLR camera from Canon, produced in 2000, with a simple lens Canon EF 50mm F / 1.8 STM:

My very useful advice - if there is no money for a new camera, ask your friends for help in buying a used one. camera. Personally, I would opt for the cheapest amateur cameras Canon 1100D, Canon 500D or advanced Canon 60D. If the video recording function in the camera is not critical, then you can stay on amateur Canon models 450D и 1000Das well as advanced models 40D or 50D.

Mirrorless cameras

Canon also launches a range of mirrorless cameras with interchangeable lenses, as cropped (bayonet mount EF-M) and full-frame (R mount) EF-M and R mounts are completely different and lenses cannot be used between them.

List of all Canon EF-M mount cameras

  • Canon EOS M
  • Canon EOS M2
  • Canon EOS M3
  • Canon EOS M5
  • Canon EOS M6
  • Canon EOS M6 MarkII
  • Canon EOS M10
  • Canon EOS M50
  • Canon EOS M50 MarkII
  • Canon EOS M100
  • Canon EOS M200

An accurate list of all Canon EF-M lenses

Fix Lenses:

  1. Canon Lens EF-M 22 mm 1:2 STM [2012, 2 colors, AliExpress]
  2. Canon Lens EF-M 28 mm 1:3.5 Macro IS STM [2016, AliExpress]
  3. Canon Lens EF-M 32 mm 1:1.4 STM [2018, AliExpress]

Wide angle lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 11-22 mm 1: 4-5.6 IS STM [2013, folding body, AliExpress]

Universal Lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 15-45 mm 1: 3.5-6.3 IS STM [2015, foldable body, 2 colors, AliExpress]
  2. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-55 mm 1: 3.5-5.6 IS STM [2012, AliExpress]
  3. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 18-150 mm 1: 3.5-6.3 IS STM [2016, 2 colors, AliExpress]

Telephoto Lenses:

  1. Canon Zoom Lens EF-M 55-200 mm 1: 4.5-6.3 IS STM [2014, 2 colors, AliExpress]

Important: using an adapter Canon mount adapter EF-EOS M any lens can be mounted Canon EF, Canon EF-S on cameras with EF-M mount.

+ autofocus lenses from third-party manufacturers:

The choice is not very large. It is also very important that the lenses under Ef-m very few (exact list here), which limits the further upgrade of these cameras.

List of all mirrorless cameras with Canon RF mount

  1. Canon EOS [September 2018, NO IBIS.30MP AliExpress]
  2. Canon EOS Ra [November 2019, NO IBIS, 30MP]
  3. Canon EOSRP [February 2019, NO IBIS.26MP AliExpress]
  4. Canon EOS-R3 [April 2021, IBIS.24MP AliExpress]
  5. Canon EOS-R5 [July 2020, IBIS.45MP AliExpress]
  6. Canon EOS R5C [January 2022, NO IBIS, 45MP]
  7. Canon EOS-R6 [July 2020, IBIS.20MP AliExpress]
  8. Canon EOS R6 MARK II [November 2022, IBIS, 24MP]
  9. Canon EOS-R8 [February 2023, NO IBIS, 24MP]

Mirror or mirrorless?

The exact and correct answer does not yet exist. In each case, the answer may be different.

Full frame or crop?

In each case, the answer may be different. In the general case, full-frame cameras are considered better.


Conclusions

  • a great option for an amateur cropped DSLR camera Canon EOS 850D
  • a great option for the advanced amateur cropped DSLR camera Canon EOS 90D
  • a great option for the advanced amateur full-frame Canon EOS 6D Mark II DSLR camera

All prices for Canon cameras (body or Kit) you can see here. Or maybe someone will like Nikon - you can find recommendations on choosing a Nikon camera here.


I don’t understand anything and I was lost in the choice!

Just tell me the budget that you are willing to spend on the camera and the purpose of buying the camera (what you will shoot for and in what) in the comments and they will tell you the best option. Anyway, ask any of your questions in the comments under this article (the site does NOT require absolutely no registration). You can consult me ​​directly on these contacts.


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Comments: 966, on the topic: Choosing a Canon SLR camera

  • Baghil

    probably in the range of up to 50 tons, so as not to regret it later

    • Nikolay Fedorovich

      For travel it is better to mirrorless and the picture is not inferior

    • Denis

      Canon 650D is a good camera, take a 15-85 lens better to it

      • Baghil

        thanks, while I have a closer look

  • Elena

    Good afternoon!
    Help me choose the second camera - 80d or 6d?
    I study at 1100d, I like fast fixes.
    Portraits - half-length, 3/4, natural light, street / premises 30/70, I would also like to add a reportage from children's and dance events. No flash yet (slowly adding something new, working more on the composition). Now there are not enough shades, high noise in low light, not enough AF points (well, the focus lock mode does not always work correctly). I do not consider Nikon due to the unusual color rendering (I shot with d5200).
    A full frame will give less noise, less depth of field, standard viewing angles for lenses, crop - a modern filling and focusing system.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      For growth, it is better to go full frame immediately. 6D.

      • Elena

        Thanks :)

  • Georgy

    I've been talking about a photographer since 2009, I'll say this, everything you need for professional work is in the Canon 1300D camera, to sell pictures you need a juicy beautiful picture with 3 plans, voluminous and lively, this can be shot on 3000D, professionals who shoot a lot take the camera for 1 - 2 years (shutter, etc.) and there is no point in dumping 2 - 4 thousand bucks for a carcass that will die in a year - and the most interesting thing is - an ordinary man in the street will never distinguish a picture from a 1300D and from a canon 5DMARK3 !!!!!
    instead of one canon 5DMARK2, it is better to take 3 -2 1300D cameras and hang three or two good fixes or manuals there, for example, the same Soviet Helios, take 5 - 7 Chinese flashes and bother with the light !! They will pay for this and it will be seen in the picture, and your noises in the shadows are deeply lost to everyone ...

    • zengarden

      YOU have opened my eyes! O_o

    • B. R. P.

      3000D, Helios, 5-7 Chinese outbreaks.

      Strong. Handsome.

    • Denis

      then instead of Canon 1300D it is better to take Pentax - it works better with Soviet glasses (no additional chips are needed), and a stabilizer in the carcass

  • Irina

    What lenses do you use? I also have a canon eis450d, but these photos cannot be taken.

  • Irina

    I thought I was thinking about buying a canon 760d or Nikon d5500. After the comments above, I thought about the canon 1300d. Can it really not bother on the carcass and take a good lens? The one I'm learning to shoot on, canon eos 450d, not mine. Still need to buy a new one.

    • Oleg

      I think how for the girl the Kenon 100d option will be still interesting. It is not inferior to the 760d, except that there is no rotary display and the battery is slightly smaller in capacity due to size, but slightly higher in class than 1300d

      • Irina

        Thanks for the answer. And if you compare canon 100d and nikon d5500? which advise?

        • Oleg

          In general, at the moment, all crop cameras are roughly equivalent: the difference in the number of megapixels, rotary display, number of frames per second, dust and moisture protection. Nikon may turn out to be a little better at high ISO, but in general, on a modern crop, everything above 1600 already has a fair amount of noise and it is better not to go there unnecessarily. Personally, I am a supporter of a slightly simpler camera, and with the money saved, buy a lens if it's for a home for a family. There is such a Russian site “profotos,” its disadvantage is that it speaks extremely well of any technique, and plus that there are many examples of photos, read there, take a closer look. Well, the 100d is quite competitive with both the 760d and the d5500 series, the only thing is that there is no rotary display. And in August, Kenon promises 200d there 24 megapixels plus a rotary display, the declared price of $ 550

  • Irina

    Good afternoon, Arkady!
    Thank you for such a lucrative consultation. I want to ask about Canon Power Shot cameras (specifically, the Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark II is interested). You don’t mention anything about them. I need a camera for high-quality photo and video filming of pussies in the house and on the street. Fit such a camera

  • Vera

    Hello. Tell me, please, if you evaluate objectively, which camera will be better than the canon 60d or canon 800d? The fact is that I'm not a professional, at the moment I have a canon 60d, but it seems that it will soon refuse to work. I’m going to buy a canon 800d because there’s nothing better yet, I can’t even go anywhere without a camera) And the question is whether it will be worse than my canon 60d?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      The camera can be evaluated by a large number of criteria. In terms of image quality, 800d will be no worse.

      • Vera

        Thanks for the answer. It is the image quality that excites me.

  • Eve

    Hello, please tell me which is better for a beginner, Nikon D5600 or canon d 800, still looking at Nikon d7200 and canon d80? thanks

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In general, more advanced d7200 or 80d models are preferable.

  • Olga

    I am facing the choice of a camera. I don't know what to choose Canon or Nikon. Needed for family, nature, travel, portrait. In general, now I choose between Canon EOS 1300D EF-S 18-55mm DC III + EF 50mm STM Kit (costs 15499 UAH), as I understand it, the kit comes with a portrait lens AND Canon EOS 700D 18-55mm STM. (It costs 17999 UAH - without lens -portretnik, with lens 22698) The difference is significant ... .. What do you advise ?. I don't quite understand how much the rotary screen needs. As far as I understand, there is a significant difference in the screen. Is it worth overpaying so much? ..

    • anonym

      Nikon D7x00 + 50 / 1.8 or D6x0 + 85 / 1.8

  • Olga

    These cameras are discontinued. Advise what is now for sale

    • KalekseyG

      Read the findings carefully.

  • Vladimir

    Good afternoon, Arkady!
    If not difficult, I will be glad to your answer and advice.
    I have the opportunity to use the Canon 6D + camera as a wonderful and expensive lens for it. I would like to buy used a camera for yourself personally, to which lenses from EOS 6 would suit. Does the 6th itself bite strongly for the price, maybe there are more budget options? Does the lens fit any EOS series? Or maybe all of Canon.
    I really hope for your answer.

    • Michael

      With any Canon EOS (EF / EF-S mount), 6D lenses will be fully compatible, there are no pitfalls.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      All lenses marked EF are suitable for all Canon EOS cameras. All lenses from Canon 6D will fit all lenses, crop is 1.3x or 1.6x - it doesn't matter.

  • Victor

    Fix:
    200d has 60p, not 60i
    800d has 60fps

  • Sergei

    Error in the table: 200D shoots 50-60p video, not i

  • Igor

    Hello Arkady!
    I am faced with the choice of which camera to give myself on NG, Canon 77D or 70D. The first is more advanced in matrix and processor (ISO and focusing) and indeed more modern. In favor of the second dust and moisture protection, the price is almost $ 100 cheaper, but it has weaker parameters. I would love to take the 80D, but in our area it is another $ 150 more expensive than the 77D, and the budget is limited. What to take? I ask for your advice. I am not a professional, now I shoot on a Canon 600D, but I want to grow.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In the tablet in my rating 77D above 70D. So the issue is resolved.

  • Igor

    Thank you for your prompt response. Those. In your opinion, do the best characteristics outweigh the dust and moisture protection? But the price? Or strangle the toad and still take the 77D? Thanks.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Yes exactly. In the initial question, the toad seemed to crush in only 80d.

  • Nik

    Good afternoon.
    Need some advice.
    I am a amateur filming mainly for myself.
    There is a 10 year old Nikon D40 with a whale 18-55. Recently, broken pixels appeared on the matrix. Repair about $ 50 - half the price of the camera itself. There is a reason and desire to buy a new one.
    Acquired Helios 81-H. He looked at the photo differently. But I realized that manual focus is not mine.
    I want to take a fix of 50 1,8 and 85 1,8 for a staff member and portraits.
    In the future I want to take a wide-angle and master the landscape.
    Therefore, I look in the direction of Canon because of the more affordable optics.
    Budget $ 1000 -1100 $ +/- for everything
    BU I do not want
    I am more inclined to option 2 fixes and the carcass is cheaper for a couple of years.
    In the future, to switch to a budget full frame having a lens park and improving skills.
    Which camera options are worth considering and which are not?
    Given that the approximate prices are fixes
    50mm f / 1.8 STM - $ 115
    85mm f / 1.8 USM - 335S
    About $ 550-650 remains per carcass
    Fit here
    1200d, 1300d,
    100d, 200d,
    700d, 750d, 760d, 800d
    Most of all I like the 760d because of the controls like the older cameras.
    But does it make sense to overpay if I consider the camera as a transitional option before the FF?
    Please advise how logical this choice is.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      It is unclear how long it will take for the transition, but you need to shoot now, otherwise the whole point of the idea is lost. I would recommend 800/760/750/200, the rest use the already too old 17,9 matrix.

      • Nik

        Thanks, then I will stop at 760d

    • Oleg

      But does it make sense to buy both 50 and 85 mm? If set to 85 for portraits, then a staffer is more comfortable than 50, but not 35.

      • Nik

        Perhaps then I’ll start with 85mm and the Helios 81n, it already exists. It will be seen how much 50mm is relevant as a second fix

  • Dmitriy

    Good day! I want to ask if anyone used the Zenith Mage store? They chose the model, but we can’t buy it in the city. Alarming low prices and lack of reviews on the network. I would really appreciate an answer!

    • Denis

      it's a scam, the names are different, but the essence is the same ...
      do not confuse it only with the store of the Krasnogorsk factory zenit.photo, these are not scammers, but they have their own lenses for sale

  • Dmitriy

    Thank you very much!

  • Dmitriy

    Then the question is: how not to run into scammers when buying in an online store? And how much should a Kenon 100 d body cost approximately? Prices vary greatly from 17 to 32 tons in various stores.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      1. Buy in a large and trusted store.
      2. Canon 100D body should cost from 17 to 23 thousand rubles.
      The cost primarily depends on the type of warranty and its period. The spread in price in such stores is a normal phenomenon for the countries of the former CIS.

    • s

      2 Dmitry:
      Do not look at store reviews. Do not take in the cheapest stores, as this is 146% scam. When choosing a purchase on the Yandex market and viewing prices in stores, when I open the product and bookmark Prices on the Yandex market, I filter by price, and try not to consider buying in the first 5 cheapest stores.

    • Denis

      on the market prices from 25 ty on a body and from 28 ty on a whale
      which city do you have?
      if the absence of a normal guarantee doesn’t scare you and you don’t want to go to a store in another city, a new carcass from South Korea costs 22 ty. and the package will arrive after the new year

  • Dmitriy

    Thank you all for the answers! Mr. Volgograd with us. Of course, I would like to take a white camera, since if that repair can cost more than the camera itself, as I understand it.

    • Denis

      They chose the model, but we can’t buy it in the city.

      but then this is not so if Volgograd
      in the M-video you have a display case in stock
      in DNS from 6 to 9 days to wait

  • Olya

    Good evening. Tell me, please, now I'm using a Canon 600d with lenses
    Canon EF24-85 mm f / 3.5-4.5 usm
    Canon EF50 mm f / 1.4 usm
    there is an option for not very expensive to buy a Canon 30d with an EF-S 18-135mm lens. Whether it is necessary? Thanks for the advice!!

    • Oleg

      More likely that you will not like such an exchange. In favor of the 30D, the viewfinder and more professional management of the settings (the minimum of the need to tinker with the menu), as well as the more robust case, are only better. But in the 600D the screen is much better (much), plus it is rotatable, plus live view, the metering sensor is better, megapixels are 3 times larger (well, this is already the case, but it is important for someone), plus it shoots the video.

      Purely like a camera, the 30D is nicer than the 600D (comparing the 20D and 600D similar to the thirty), I personally would have chosen it and did it, only in a similar situation with Nikon, but I don’t need a video, the rotary screen and the live are not important -view is also not important, but the fact that almost all the settings are always at hand is important.

      • Olya

        Thank you very much, dispelled my doubts. I will save for a good technique)

    • Arkady Shapoval

      If you do not know whether it is necessary, then 95% of what is not necessary. I don’t see much point.

      • Olya

        Thanks for the answer and for your mega-useful site! for beginners there is so much useful information!

  • Dmitriy

    So there seems to be only a whale, we wanted to take the body and the lens is fast for it.

  • Dmitriy

    But perhaps we will consider these options, there is less risk. Thanks!

  • Marat

    Hello!
    I want to buy a Canon 750d without a lens. What aperture lens would you recommend. I am not a professional and the budget is not cool, as they say. Mostly they will shoot in the registry office. Thanks.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In general, the more the better. The question is vague.

    • Oleg

      The golden mean is 35 mm, since if you take a more portrait one, then a wide angle indoors will not be enough, and if a wide angle one, then not very much for portraits. In general, if you go into commercial photography, then you do not need to save on the lens, it is better to borrow, buy a lens on credit. Very good for a crop for this kind of shooting Sigma 18-35 1.8 art, but the price bites. You can search for a used Canon 17-55 2.8, but also not cheap, even a used one. Or third-party manufacturers, for example Sigma 17-50 2.8, it is cheaper than the native one, or Tamron 17-50 2.8, such a used one can be found relatively inexpensively (no more than $ 200).

      You would take a camera from someone, you can go with a whale 18-55, go to a registry office or another room with a similar area and ask the price, setting the lens to 35 mm, whether this focal point is enough for you or still need a wider angle, then the search criteria are clearer. If 35 mm is enough, then Nikon 35 1.8 has a very good lens, probably Canon has the same one, too. But if 35 mm is not enough, then the fast zoom is 18-35 or 17-55 (50).

      • Marat

        Thank you.

  • Alain

    Hello Arkady!
    Thank you for your work! You write that you have worked with almost all Nikon-Canon cameras. I have a Nikon D7200 with a small fleet of lenses, I’m far from new to photography. I shoot portraits. Krop suits me, I didn’t have to deal with FF. Recently, many interesting lenses began to appear, as an example, Sigma Art. There is a desire to purchase them, but I’m not sure whether to buy them for Nikon, because I’m thinking about switching to another system, Canon or Sony. I have not worked with any of them before. The choice is complicated by the fact that in the country where I live, there is no way to rent photographic equipment to try it in real conditions. I’m trying to form at least some opinion, looking at the photos in Internet resources)) I would be very grateful if you share your experience or recommendations. If you change, then what would you advise? Which crop and which ff? Thanks!

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Nikon / Canon / Sony is a system choice. The question is extremely difficult. If you like d7200, then there is nothing to change. You have not indicated the budgets, so I can safely advise from the Nikon D500, Canon 7D mark II crops. From full frame Canon 1DX mark II, 5DSR, D5 Mark Iv, Nikon D5, D850, Sony a7 r III, a7 s II, etc. For Sigma's sake, changing the system is a moot point. For a portrait, I personally would stop at Canon 5D Mark IV + Canon 85 / 1.2 (1/4) + Canon 135/2 + Canon 50 1.2, you can also have analogs from Sigma line Art.

      • Alain

        Thank you very much, Arkady, for such a detailed answer! Reading your blog, I made about the same conclusions for myself.

        The question of switching to another system was asked before, the purchase of new optics only "sharpened" this topic for me. One way or another, you will have to upgrade to a new camera. In Nikon, a somewhat "loose" skin tone does not suit. On canons, it seems denser, sometimes too much)) I am aware of the BB) I made my conclusions based on the files I worked with. Correct me if I am mistaken. In Sigma, Canon is captivated by the fact that they make a good adapter for the Sony FE, which may come in handy in the future. Still, the main reason today to change the camera or the system as a whole is to find a good skin tone and deep color. Is Canon really better in this matter? I will be very grateful to you and I promise not to torture you anymore))

        • Alain

          I'll clarify, "loose color" when shooting with natural light, with artificial light - everything is much better

        • Arkady Shapoval

          You do not torture. The Nikon / Canon skinning issue is huge. In general, it is believed that Canon is preferable in this matter. But you always need to look specifically at specific models, lenses, types of shooting, conditions and personal perception of skin tone by the photographer and others.

          • Alain

            Thank you!

          • Boris

            Arkady, if possible, at least in a nutshell. How do you feel about the transfer of skinton with modern cameras? And how important is it for you to get the required skin directly from the camera when shooting for processing?

            • Arkady Shapoval

              For me, this question is not so important as they like to inflate it, especially if there is an opportunity to refine it. There is a task to get a good photo - that's what the photographer is working on.

              • Boris

                Thank you, I also noticed that opinions on this issue are directly opposite, but only among lovers. Opinions of professionals about a bad skin on a modern camera of some famous brand have not met.

            • Alain

              Boris,
              By skinton I mean not so much color as the quality of the transmission of skin tone. Nikon often observe color degradation, the appearance of extraneous shades and dirt in the shady areas. Moreover, this is due not only to an increase in ISO, but also simply due to a lack of light, for example in the shadows.

              • Denis

                CCD matrices rule. and canon abandoned them much earlier

              • Boris

                Have you compared two cameras of different companies of the same level in the same conditions? If not, then the statement “Nikon / Canon / Sonya has it worse” may be wrong. In fact, it is difficult to understand exactly what you are talking about. Perhaps you are talking about smooth transitions in the cut-off drawing, or perhaps something of your own. The cameras that Arkady wrote to you (from different companies) convey such nuances better than the D7200.

              • Peter Sh.

                It is important to understand that in low light with a picture there will be difficulties in any case. Regardless of the brand of technology or optics.

                If you can’t get the desired result on the D7200, then it’s far from the fact that you will get it on Kenon or Sony. I just want to warn against disappointment.

                Better take care of the light. Buy a tripod umbrella, flash and radio controller.

              • Peter Sh.

                And further. There is a misconception that Kenon has the best skinton. This is not so, Kenon may have a better micro-contrast of skin tones. But this is if there is good lighting. If not enough, Kenon has even more problems than Nikon. Changing the system in pursuit of the best color (skin tone and more) is a big mistake.

              • Alain

                Thank you very much for all your help tips! About the lack of lighting, and meant that the main light is just enough (ISO 100), but extraneous artifacts about which I wrote above still appear in the shadows. Highlighting shadows is not always possible, and it is not always necessary. Cameras from other manufacturers seemed to do better. I did comparative tests in the store itself, where you yourself know what kind of lighting) Therefore, of course, the conclusions are very subjective. Peter, by microcontrast of the skin is meant that if a person, for example, has redness on the skin or bruises under his eyes, will Canon emphasize this even more? Here, Nikon, of course, is much friendlier)) In general, I will continue to study this issue. Thanks again to everyone!

              • Valentine

                Test shots of different cameras with the same parameters. You can select frames at ISO 100 (or another) and watch full size. There are Nikon and Canon models you are interested in. Unfortunately, not living skin, but a mannequin. But just the shadows and their purity (what interests you) are visible:
                Nikon D7200 imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d7200/nikon-d7200THMB.HTM
                Nikon D750 imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d750/nikon-d750THMB.HTM
                Nikon D5 imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d5/nikon-d5THMB.HTM
                Canon 6D imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-6d/canon-6dTHMB.HTM
                Canon 5D MIV imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-5d-iv/canon-5d-ivTHMB.HTM
                There are other cameras.

              • Alain

                Valentine, thank you very much!

              • Valentine

                Frames with Canon 5D Mark III and Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art can be seen here http://www.onfoto.ru/review/Sigma-AF-35mm-f-1-4-DG-HSM-Art/4532.html

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