For the opportunity lens overview Jupiter-8 2/50 Many thanks to Andrei Shutenko.
Additionally, you can see the full review + video review JUPITER-8 1: 2 F = 5cm P with mount Contax-Kiev RF and its modifications - JUPITER-8M 1: 2 F = 5cm P, JUPITER-8M 2/50 и JUPITER-8M 2/53.
Overview of Jupiter-8 2/50
Jupiter-8 is an interesting lens with an amazing picture. Jupiter 8 is very well written on the site of Sergei Elizarov.
TX Jupiter-8 2/50
Focal length: 50
Diaphragm: F / 2.0-f / 22.0
Number of aperture blades: 9 pieces
The weight: 130 g
Optical design: 6 elements in 3 groups
Thread: M39 (rangefinder lens)
Front Filter Diameter: 40mm
MDF: 1 метр
View of the lens diaphragm Jupiter-8 2 50
The focusing of the lens is smooth. The focusing ring rotates 180 degrees, the front lens does not rotate when focusing. The lens itself is very small. Its shiny white metal frame looks very unusual on modern digital cameras. There is a modification of the lens in a black frame of the body, as well as a modification with a Kontax-Kiev mount. You can see what the 'P' version looks like Jupiter-8 1: 2 F = 5cm P. There is also a similar lens, but with a larger aperture - Jupiter 3.
Lens enlightenment
The diaphragm has 9 blades. The iris control ring rotates smoothly, without stopping at fixed values. At closed aperture values, the lens gives almost even circles in the blur zone.
Type of indicators Jupiter-8
Sample photos on Jupiter-8 2/50
It’s a pity, I don’t have the opportunity to use Jupiter-8 2/50 on mirrorless cameras. On SLR cameras Jupiter-8 2/50 works only in macro mode, in more detail here. How to use Soviet old lenses on modern Nikon cameras read here, and on Canon here. I shot on Canon 350D and two adapters M39-M42 + M42-Canon EOS.
Sample photos on Jupiter-8
After I crawled on my knees near the first spring flowers and transferred the photo to a computer, I was shocked by the unusual picture of this lens. The lens has amazing bokeh. On F / 2.0, weak sharpness and strong aberrations, this allows you to convey unusual volume, style and artistic content in photographs.
Photos without processing:
The history of my copy from the owner of the lens:
The lens has a slightly tired look. He had a very rich past. Its previous owner, with the Zorkiy-4 camera, was, and now alive and nimble, my grandfather, a former investigator in especially important cases of any very criminal kind. The lens had to see such that we mere mortals and think terribly. Where only he was not and where only he was not worn. From the 64th to the 84th they used it regularly. He never saw the hands of a master and prevention. But for the entire time of its operation, he was treated very carefully! But time has taken its toll. Shutenko Andrey.
Jupiter-8 on the SLR camera
Review Addendum
I came across another copy, this time with a name in Latin - Jupiter-8 2/50... Externally, the lenses are identical. Photos taken with Nikon 1 J1, With EGF lens is 135mm (sounds scary).
How to use with modern cameras?
Lenses with an M39 thread (for rangefinder cameras, M39 X 1/28.8), such as the lens from this review, are very easy to use on almost any modern digital camera (both SLR and mirrorless), for this you just need to choose the right adapter (adapter). There is no need to carry out any additional actions to remake the lens. The cheapest adapters can be found at Aliexpress.com.
For mirrorless cameras
- SONY: For cameras with 'E'/'FE' mount series SonyNEX и Sony Alpha need here is an adapter M39 -Sony E (aka L39 -Sony Nex).
- OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK / XIAOMI: For cameras with a bayonet mount Micro 4/3 (Micro 4:3) need here is an adapter M39-Micro 4/3.
- CANON M: For cameras with Canon EF-M mount need here is such an adapter M39-Canon M.
- CANON R and RF-S: For cameras with Canon RF mount need here is such an adapter M39-Canon R.
- Nikon 1: For cameras Nikon 1 Series need here is such an adapter M39-Nikon 1.
- Nikon Z: For cameras Nikon Z series (FX/DX) needed here is such an adapter M39-Nikon Z.
- FUJIFILM X: For cameras with mount X need here is such an adapter M39-Fuji X.
- FUJIFILM GFX: For medium format cameras G-mount need here is such an adapter M39-Fuji GFX.
- SAMSUNG: NX mount cameras require here is an adapter M39-Samsung NX. There are no adapters for the NX mini camera yet.
- SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with L mount need here is such an adapter M39-Leica L.
- LEICA: For cameras with a bayonet mount Leica M need here is an adapter M39-L / M.
It's important: for SLR cameras, only macro mode is possible (can only shoot at very close focusing distances).
For SLR cameras (macro mode only)
- Canon: For cameras Canon EOS with bayonet mount EF / EF-S need here is an adapter M39 -Canon EOS.
- NIKON: For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with Nikon F mount needed here is such an adapter M39 -Nikon F (some cameras will only work in M-mode).
- PENTAX: For Pentax K-mount cameras, you need here is such an adapter M39 -Pentax K.
- SONY/MINOLTA: For cameras with a Sony/Minolta A mount, you need here is an adapter M39 -Sony A.
- OLYMPUS/PANASONIC/LEICA: For cameras with 4/3 mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) here is an adapter M39 -4/3.
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Conclusions
Jupiter-8 2/50 is a very interesting and well-made rangefinder lens. Will work best on mirrorless cameras. On SLR cameras it can only work in macro mode. The lens has a very specific bokeh. I recommend it for creative experiments.
Reviews of the lenses of the Jupiter-8 series:
- JUPITER-8 1: 2 F = 5cm П | Arsenal | Contax-Kiev | 1956
- JUPITER-8М 1: 2 F = 5 cm | Arsenal | Contax-Kiev | 1961 | reader's review
- JUPITER-8М 1: 2 F = 5cm П | Arsenal | Contax-Kiev | 1963
- JUPITER-8М 2/50 | Arsenal | Contax-Kiev | 1977
- JUPITER-8М 2/53 | Arsenal | Contax-Kiev | 1978
- Jupiter-8 1: 2 F = 5cm П | KMZ | M39 | 1958 | white
- Jupiter-8 2/50 | KMZ | M39 | 1962 | white
- Jupiter-8 2/50 | KMZ | from the TV camera 'Electronics L-50' | 1965
- Jupiter-8 2/50 | KMZ | M39 | 1974 | black | review from Rodion Eshmakov
- Examples on JUPITER-8 2/50 (black, M39)
- 500PX Gallery
- Video about Jupiter-8
Jupiter-8 also exists in early versions under the names:
- ZK 1: 2 F = 5cm P | KMZ | folding frame | ~ 1948 | M39
- Vigilant ZK 1: 2 F = 5cm P | KMZ | white with ears | ~ 1949 | M39
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Or is it my version of the lens?
can I take it if I take off the first lens
almost bought ..
I will try on kenon.
But what does it mean in macro mode on a DSLR?
there, after all, the main ones are the priority of the aperture / shutter speed and manual.
and macro mode is that? which machine?
and further. but did someone try with its macro rings?
Hello again.
to work this lens need to redo something?
I have an adapter M39-M42 + adapter M42 ..
but there is a problem. when the lens in the removed state, both the aperture and the focus move smoothly.
when I just put on the M42 all the way - something is blocking the focal length scale. it doesn't scroll ..
it's not even putting on a carcass.
what could be the problem and how can I fix it :?
thanks for your reply.
I bought Jupiter 8 during installation, there was a problem when I only dress the M42 all the way - something is blocking the focal length scale. it does not scroll. Tell me what could be the problem?
solved the problem!
Hello. Please, tell me please, which method of connecting to the d5100 will be preferable? m39-m42-nikon or better all the same immediately m39-nikon?
If you choose the second option, then the focusing distance should seem to be larger, since the lens will be closer to the matrix. Or am I not thinking right?
Good time!
I have a Jupiter 8M lens (received as a gift along with rangefinder Kiev).
1. What can you say about this lens?
2. Is it possible to "make friends" with a mirrorless, for example micro 4/3, or Sony NEX, if so, how?
3. I can't get it off the camera. That is, to control the aperture - yes, twist the focus - like yes, but to remove it from the camera - no.
And yet, what Soviet (inexpensive and affordable) lenses would you recommend for micro 4/3 mirrorless
Yesterday I also held this device in my hands and also failed to remove the lens. You need to know where he has a button)))
it is possible with a transition ring for 39 threads, and there will be happiness ... at the very 3 Jupiters8 -but-that's the infection white-but I want a black-photo you can have a look-draws well-at 4 \ 3 as 100 \ 2 - and such an imported one can leave his at the cost of no pants
Yesterday I just got a little white out of the bins, hooked a mirrorless mirror to Olya E-PL1.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i601/1406/89/7e17a55138ca.jpg
Filmed in the open. The glass is magnificent, as for me.
IMHO the cheapest gentlemanly set is Yu37, Yu8, 44-2 (it is desirable to choose, they are very different) or later, I61L / D (also choose).
But the Japanese are still cooler, although there is enough trash among them.
And yes, no Soviet one will save you from buying Lumix 20 / 1.7 ASPH :)
and who will say-on “u-8 ″ in black-aperture ring with smooth closure or as on FED industries of the 90s - there is a translation with silks-
On black smooth closing.
which is better to leave, from Jupiters? white or black? who tried both?
with not scratched lenses and not cloudy adhesives.
Add for Micro4 / 3 (I have Olya E-PM2)
I use through adapters M42-Micro4 / 3 and M39-M42 for macro, as the focus is only a couple of centimeters. If you need to make a part-book or focus on infinity, then I remove the inner ring from the M42-Micro4 / 3 adapter. I put the lens there and tighten the adapter with adapter bolts. Bolts tighten the focus ring, you can be guided by rotating the lens itself.
Good day! The adapter is easily and for free made from the M39-nex adapter as follows. The bayonet is removed from the carcass, the fastening plate is cut off along the circumference with a hand jigsaw with a metal file, and processed with a flat file. Further, the inner ring of the adapter expands to the diameter of the rear part of the mount. The front part of this ring is removed on sandpaper by about 0,8-1 mm. Everything is now glued to the bayonet inside the adapter ring on epoxy. Behind the drilled hole for the pin - stop in the position of the screwed-in bayonet and push in the pin (using a paper clip), it's done! We get pleasure from shooting on Y8M!
What kind of garbage people do, if only 15 bucks do not spend.
Eugene! It is necessary to “sand” the sensor surface a little more!
Why are people so crazy about a lens made on exported German machine tools 60 years ago ???? Let him compare the pictures taken with a 1955 or 1985 Soviet lens and the current whale zoom. Then the public will understand why the whale zoom costs 200 dollars, and the sovetsky lens costs 200 UAH)))
All the same, the machines were changed over time. Even a relatively new black Jupiter will be more interesting than a whale. Even a plastic zenitar-bullet will be more interesting than a whale ... Even an industrial-50 is cooler than a whale)
In Scoop, for which many cry so much - no one has changed anything for 50 years! That's why he crumbled! Zhygul and Muskvich were released virtually unchanged for 20-30 years. FED and Zvenit - riveted for 20-30 years on the same machines and forms! Whale zooms in terms of image quality will be 100 times better than many shovels. For enlightenment of lenses and blackening of the inner surfaces of lenses, as well as for the accuracy of grinding lenses - Scoop used German technologies of the 1930s, exported from Germany in 1945-1948. It's another matter that high-aperture Nikorov non-autofocus prime lenses cost $ 100-300, and shovel lenses $ 30-100. From here you have to dance. The price of the scoop is small!
You didn’t get there. Here they discuss photography as a kind of fine art.
Nobody is interested in such bile whining.
Go to Brighton Beach Street, find the Matryoshka cafe there, and ask for the phone number of the International Anti-Communist League. There they will be able to listen to you patiently, and maybe even advise something.
Here's a little shovel Helios 33. Show from the whale.
Very interesting glass, not ordinary!
What a furious, apparently annoyed him with the "scoop"
More. Scoop lenses contained 4-6 lenses - and then the image contrast and light transmission are poor or mediocre. A whale zoom 6-10 lenses - and the picture is much brighter and juicier. Therefore, a comparison of Soviet technologies of the XX century and Japanese technologies of the XXI century. - not for the benefit of sovkodrocherov. Compare the price!))))
Compare the picture J8 and the whale - everything is obvious ... The tasks that are put before the zoom and the "scoop" are also different. So we're talking about different things. In addition, the 50-80s of the glass did not have MC, what a contrast here. There is no need to demand much from the advice, you need to understand that Soviet glasses are not used in all cases and not as everyday universal ones.
Naturally! "Whale" lenses give a bright juicy contrasting picture! Not a blurry yellow spot like Soviet lenses from the 1950s and 1970s! You, sir, think for yourself - why "whale" lenses cost several hundred dollars, and for soviet "achievements" people are willing to pay only a few tens of dollars ??? Probably not without reason))))
Nonsense. The whales have a contrast, yes, but the whales of many systems (not all, but we will not point a finger) lather even more Soviet ones, especially at the long end.
And also such a nuance. Aperture ratio. The whales don't have it. If there is no aperture and no light, you will shoot at wild ISO as a whale. Get a nightmare at the exit. And with Helios 44-2 for $ 5 - you won't get it, because you didn't have to wind up the ISO.
The price of old lenses is determined by the usual law of supply and demand. As well as the lack of autofocus in them. And also the lack of normal means (before the appearance of mirrorless) to focus these lenses normally.
And, of course, modern fixes are better in all respects, except for the price. Apart from bokeh, the Zonnar bokeh of the Yu8 is luxurious.
A whale lens costs a few hundred cents, not dollars)
In fact, anyone with a lens is characterized by such parameters as resolution, no distortion and light transmission (at least in three zones of the visible spectrum). Scoop lenses - in ALL these parameters - are much, much worse than the "whale" zoom. Moreover, scoops are worse and cheaper than Japanese prime lenses of the 1960s-1980s. So that's it. So it is not necessary to make virtue out of soviet poverty.
Of course, you accidentally forgot to mention the aperture?
Distortion
* Distortion, soap in bulk in whales.
The tasks that the standard camera lens solves have not changed over the past 150 years. Therefore, need not be passed off as virtue.
I think that even if Jupiter and their ilk were riveted on their knees by Uncle Vasya from Stary Petrivtsiv, the quality of the photos is still worthy of attention to this technique. And the question of the age of technology and other nonsense is completely irrelevant.
The author is very grateful for what he does. We bought a reflex camera recently and discover a lot of new and interesting things. He threw a cry for acquaintances in search of old fotiks. We will create and experiment)
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Good afternoon, can you tell me what I need ... I have some optics of the USSR, but the problem arose with the Jupiter-8 lens with the M39 thread. I installed it through adapters m39-42 + m42 with a chip for Canon. But it works in macro and when I turn it all the way, the focusing ring does not work (it clamps) ... Maybe you Arkady tell me, you tested it on Canon.
He will work on a SLR camera only as a macro. Why the focus ring does not work, I do not know.
Thank…
adjustment rings could be removed there, inside the lens. and therefore pinches, I met this.
But tighter - you need to twist it in your hands
Thank…
Can't you remake it in portrait?
Put on a mirrorless mirror.
As far as I know, I need an M-42 adapter with a LENS! after it, put the adapter on the M 39-42, after the lens itself. And it should work for infinity. I myself ordered this scheme right now. I will check.
Hello everyone, how do you find out the year of issue for Jupiter - 8 under the number 049251? Thanks.
Hello, I’m for your advice, I need an adapter to the lens.
Help determine how best and what exactly is needed
I have a Panasonic G6 - micro 4/3
I need an adapter or adapter, I do not know how to
On Jupiter 8
Thread: M39 (rangefinder lens)
Front Filter Diameter: 40mm
Better to take one adapter
Adapter m39 - 4/3, it is also for rangefinder lenses.
Or do you need a ring + adapter?
M39 adapter to M42 + M42 adapter to micro 4/3
Does it make sense and how will it be more correct to use adapters for the M39?
Thanks in advance for the answers, I'm sorry if I ask repeated questions on the topic, maybe they already asked.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-L39-M39-Lens-to-Micro-4-3-M43-Adapter-ring-L39-M4-3-EP1-EP2-DMC-G1-GF1-GH1-/310735142138?hash=item485941fcfa:g:4e4AAMXQ7j1SIYRx
Thank you
Installed through the adapter XF-M39 on the Fujufilm X-E1. The image quality is good, although on the open a little soap.
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people and lenses are here, I want to remind you of one well-known saying (it’s not the camera and the lens that shoots, but the person). And it depends only on you what the result will turn out, regardless of what you are holding in your hands. Do not transfer the dirt of your thoughts to this bright site.
Hello!
I want to take one for myself as a portrait lens on an Olympus micro 4/3 system. I really like his bokeh and the picture in general ... but what's stopping you, with a crop of 2, the equivalent will be 100/4? Can you shoot a half-length portrait with a beautifully blurred background? or on my double crop it will be an elusive task with such depth of field? Thanks!
diaphragm then why decrease?
Only on air. Neither the diaphragm will increase nor the flu will decrease