For the opportunity to review lens Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P many thanks to Alexander Balabak.
Overview of Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P Contax-Kiev
Below shown list of major versions of JUPITER / JUPITER-9:
- JUPITER-9 2/85 AUTOMATIC. In the case for the Kiev-10/15 cameras, the Arsenal plant (Kiev), the Kiev-Avtomat mount
- JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm. In a white case, Krasnogorsk, mount Contact-Kiev
- JUPITER-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P. In the white building, Arsenal building (Kiev), Contact-Kiev bayonet mount
- Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8,5cm P... In a white case, KMZ, M39 for Zenit cameras
- JUPITER-9 2/85. In a white case, Lytkarinsky, M39 for Zenit cameras
- In the black case of the old type, Lytkarinsky, M42 (no review yet)
- JUPITER-9 2 / 85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, M42
- MC JUPITER-9 2/85. In a black case of a new type, Lytkarinsky, with 'MS', M42
Very well about Jupiter-9 is written on the site of Sergei Elizarov here.
View of Jupiter-9 85 2,0 from Contax cameras
My copy from this review originally had a Contax-Kiev mount (aka RF). By our craftsmen, the bayonet mount was sawn under the Nikon F mount while maintaining focus on infinity. Rumor has it that the Jupiter-9 versions for Contax-Kiev are the best. How to use old Soviet lenses on modern Nikon cameras you can read in the section Soviet optics.
Marking of the lens Jupiter-9, the letter P in the name.
Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P has a pronounced lilac enlightenment, the letter P in the name of the lens just indicates enlightenment. The whole lens has an unusual body color for our time. The white metal lens looks unusual on modern cameras.
Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P focuses from infinity to 1.15 meters, while the focus ring rotates 180 degrees. The trunk of the lens lengthens by about 1 cm. When focusing front lens rotates. The diaphragm control ring is located near the front lens. Aperture values are 2.0, 2.8, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22. Aperture adjustable smoothly, without clicks, you can set any intermediate values of the F number, which is quite important for video. The front filter diameter is 49mm. By the way, if someone has examples of video clips from this lens - drop the links in the comments to this review.
Jupiter-9 side view. The rear of the lens has been redone for installation on Nikon cameras.
A distinctive feature of Jupiter-9 is its 15 blade aperture. The aperture device always allows you to get even circles in the blur zone. The bokeh of the lens is excellent.
View of Jupiter-9 on a modern camera
Sample photos:
All photos were shot on a full-format camera. Nikon D700 and a converted lens Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P Contax-Kiev. Photos without processing, only reduced size and added data from EXIF. Special thanks to Nate and Albina for the photos.
Personal impressions
Judging by the serial number of my copy 620790, the lens is more than 50 years old. A 15-blade aperture and a combination of F / 2.0 aperture with 85mm focal length make this portrait a wonderful portrait lens. On the crop, he remains as good. I am very surprised that many amateur photographers often pass by the lenses of the Jupiter-9 series in search of Helios-40 (40-2). Among the shortcomings, I can single out the factor that when focusing, the aperture control ring is often touched and the current aperture value gets lost. Also, when sighting, it is clearly visible that the lens is yellow.
The sizes of two lenses: Jupiter-9 85mm F2.0 P and Nikon 85mm F1.8D AF Nikkor
Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.
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Conclusions:
Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P Contax-Kiev is a good portrait lens, it requires serious alteration to work on modern SLR cameras. Jupiter-9 is one of the best soviet portrait lenses.
Material prepared Arkady Shapoval.
Informative review. For a long time I wanted to see exactly Arsenal Jupiter 9. And here it is in all its glory. I really liked it.
Hello. “When focusing, the aperture control ring is often touched and the current aperture value gets lost.” I didn’t have time to fix this drawback, but I’ll do it, I know how :))
Alexander, how much do you charge for remaking such a rangefinder Jupiter to a Nikon bayonet?
axis znayshov sampling video on Jupiter 85 \ 2. Chi tse the very contacts, I don’t know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-ARSiraXA
Yesterday at a flea market I saw a black version, m42. 100 UAH stands with the camera. I don’t remember the year exactly, but it seems like an old one like a mammoth. I didn’t take it, I remember the review of the black version, and besides, I already have wave 3 with a similar FR :-)
Where is this flea market?)
Alexander. Can you remake another such lens? If so, write to cirulnik@gmail.com
I have one, 61 years old. Converted to M-42. Now I'm shooting with Canon. I like the lens, especially the color rendition is excellent! The drawing is beautiful and slightly soft. At aperture “2” the depth of field is very shallow and it is not easy to get into focus. From “4” beauty and sharpness and bokeh begin. I compared it with the black Lytkarinsky MC version, then the white one is sharper and much more.
Tell me, please, how did you remake this mount for eos?
Jura, hello) could you remake the Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm lens for the EF-S Canon eos 650D mount ?? And how much does it cost?
Garnі dіvchata!
Arkady, is this exactly a sawn-through bayonet from Contax-Kiev? Contax-Kiev will not stand on a DSLR, this is optics from a rangefinder with a working distance of more than a centimeter less than Nikon F - how could you achieve Nikon's working distance?
And in appearance it is one-on-one like Jupiter-9 with M39 for a DSLR ...
By the way, by your link to the site of Sergey Elizarov, all this is described.
On the site of Elizarov it is written for M39 and for M42. This lens is sawn from the contact, otherwise I would not do another review of the Yu-9.
Vasil. if you look closely at the lens, you will see that this rear ring is different !!! And not how you wrote one to one!
I mean not an adapter but a white ring!
Over the years they looked a little different, BUT ... Jupiter-9 with Contax mount looks like this - http://radikal.ua/data/upload/4efc3/4fa6c/c83486debe.jpg - in the photo it is Jupiter-9.
although there may be other options ...
Jupiter-9 from Kiev is easily redone for DSLRs, as well as the version for M39. True from Kiev is easier, because her back is unscrewed, and the threaded one needs to be cut. Naturally, the lens will become shorter.
Hello) could you remake the Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm lens for the EF-S Canon eos 650D mount?
Good day everyone :) I am also interested in the question of the bayonet - after all, the Contax-Kiev bayonet is a purely rangefinder option and was not used in DSLRs or is it a rework of the rangefinder glass? After all, Contax-Kiev consisted of two parts and there was no focusing system on the glass itself, but it was on the camera (there was once Kiev 4 with Jupiter 8m and there was this very bayonet). Interesting just for myself :)
Yaroslav, the Yu-9 just had a focus ring and on Kiev-4 it was attached after removing the front part with the Helios-103 or Jupiter-8 lens unit, the remaining part on the carcass, wound on top of it.
Thank you, I have never met him - I was just interested in whether it was really a mirror version or a rangefinder limit - I tend to the latter more.
The contact-Kiev working segment is a centimeter (or so) longer than the rangefinder under m39, so it’s quite possible to redo it.
Here is what happened :).
http://moskva.msk.slando.ru/obyavlenie/obektiv-yupiter-9-dlya-kieva-ID59X4j.html
what happened you see !!! plus a couple of tricks :)
Yes, a radical rework. :)
And here is the manua for remaking http://paintforge.livejournal.com/799.html
As an option! Just not beautiful and the slot dust collector
Even autofocus alteration is, SHOCK!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CpLs-9boc
The crooks.
That’s cool !!! To reap that new tricks will not work on new Nikons :) but you could experiment with a screwdriver :))
Tell me how to distinguish the rangefinder option from the mirror?
By mount, see the link for 8 comments up :))
Here is a slight inaccuracy in the description: not only the front lens rotates when focusing, but the WHOLE LENSBLOCK!
At the expense of reworking under the SLR, it’s easy, since the rear segment of all Jupiter-9 lenses is a little over 40mm! It is difficult to remodel Jupiter-9 AUTOMATIC, there the diaphragm drive is almost inaccessible.
I can also add about the installation thread for the hood or filter, it is m49 X 0,5 mm (such as on the first Helios-44).
On the internet they write that this lens is a female portrait, and so, this is not entirely true! My copy of the Krasnogorsk optical, 1953 release. turned out to be very sharp in the open (in sharpness it is very similar to Vegu-12v!).
Glory, hello) could you remake the Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm lens for the EF-S Canon eos 650D mount?
Hello everyone! I remade myself on a Canon eos mount Jupiter 9. There is infinity and I am not overjoyed. Beautiful drawing. Compared with his 85 from Canon, the difference is not big. Not enough for the Jupiter hole for more. And so the flight is excellent. Who cares how he remade, write to VKontakte
http://vk.com/akhmetov13
Here is another photo
more
http://ali.pub/2i8czh
Here is a ring you need. The diameter of the thread coincides with the diameter of the rear part, with which you need to saw off the part
“My copy from this review originally had a Contax-Kiev bayonet (aka RF). The bayonet was cut by our craftsmen for Nikon F mount while maintaining focus at infinity. ” - tell me, can you still contact such craftsmen?
Arkady, tell me how to put Jupiter 9 rangefinder with a Contax-Kiev mount on a Canon EOS system? Or tell me where you can find the manual for alteration. Thanks.
I’ve copied it somewhere, I won’t give the link because it’s from the advertisement and then it will work
will not be
“Jupiter-9”, 2/85, 1955- ?, MC “Jupiter-9”, 1985- ?, KMZ, zd “Arsenal”, LZOS
Long telephoto lens for rangefinder and SLR cameras.
Equipped with iris diaphragm.
Originally it had the name "ZK-85" - Zonnar Krasnogorsky, 85 mm
and existed in versions for rangefinder cameras such as "Kiev" and "Zorkiy".
Design and technological documentation for lenses
"Sonnar" of the German company Carl Zeiss,
as well as equipment for production were delivered to Krasnogorsk due to reparations
after the end of World War II.
Later, the frames were redone for use with SLR cameras.
It was also produced in Lytkarino (LZOS) and at the Arsenal plant (Kiev, Ukraine).
At the end of production, it was produced with multi-layer enlightenment.
Focal length 85 mm (84,46 mm), relative aperture 1: 2.
The angle of the field of view is 28 ° (according to other sources - 29 °), the frame size is 24 × 36 mm.
Front vertex focal length -73,42 mm,
back apical focal length 40,71 mm.
The distance from the first to the last surface is 54,35 mm.
The number of lenses / groups is 7/3.
Working distance: 28,8 mm; 34,85 mm; 45,2 mm; 45,5 mm.
The number of aperture blades is 15.
Aperture scale limits 1: 2 - 1:22. Near Focus Limit:
rangefinder option - 1,15 m,
option for SLR cameras - 0,8 m.
Connections: camera lens: M39x1, mount, M42x1; for screw-in nozzles: SpM49x0,5;
for slip-on attachments - diameter 51 mm; location of the filter mount: front.
Resolution
according to TU (center / edge): 30/18 lines / mm, light transmission coefficient - 0,75.
Dimensions:
length of a lens mounted at infinity, with covers:
rangefinder threaded version - 80 mm
option for SLR cameras - 65 mm
largest frame diameter:
rangefinder option - 60 mm
option for SLR cameras - 68 mm
Jupiter-9 1: 2 F = 8.5cm P Is it possible to put this lens on the canon eos600d
how will it work on it as a macro or as a range finder
Hello! How can you get it already converted? I have a Pentax K-5 camera, I live in Rostov-on-Don.
selling Jupiter 9 for Kiev rangefinder (bayonet) price 5 tr. in the wardrobe trunk. also Jupiter 12 in a 3 tr case Jupiter 8 - 1500 r all under the bayonet (Kiev rangefinder) mail boss.wret@mail.ru Voronezh write or call 9003023540
Hello Arkady, tell me whether Zeiss or Yashika lenses with Contax mounts are suitable for Kiev 4A http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yashica-28mm-2-8-ML-Contax-Yashica-mount-Lens-/321244692056?pt=AU_Lenses&hash=item4acbacfe58&_uhb=1 for example such.?
C / Y mount - mirror, will not fit. The rangefinder is called either Contax-RF or Kiev / Contax. Mirror Contax, apart from the post-war Contax S and its derivatives, has nothing to do with Germany at all.