For the opportunity lens overview Mir-1 2.8 / 37 Many thanks to Vadim Shkurat, who sent me a lens from another area for review.
There are a huge number of different modifications of the Mir-1 2.8 / 37 lens, you can read about the differences in the review of one of them - Mir-1V 2.8 / 37 (1985, Vologda). Also, it’s very interesting to write about Mir-1 lenses. on the site of Sergei Elizarov.
A distinctive feature of my instance is:
- White metal case, lens name is written in Latin
- Yellow front lens enlightenment
- The lens was manufactured in Zagorsk in 1967.
- M42 seating thread (possibly M49 with a M39-M42 ring, as I did not look, could not determine), the inscription "GRAND PRIX" Brussel 1958
- 10-blade aperture
Focusing on the Mir-1 2.8 / 37 is smooth, the focus ring rotates 270 degrees. When focusing, the front lens does not rotate, and the trunk of the lens practically does not lengthen. I really didn’t like that the focus ring is located behind the lens, near the lens mount on the camera. The focus ring is narrow, it is inconvenient to rotate, often instead of the focus ring you want to twist the aperture preset ring. The depth of field scale and the focus distance scale are near the landing thread. With the lens attached to my camera Canon 350D, the camera’s built-in flash closes the DOF and the focus distance scales on the lens. The minimum focusing distance is 70 cm.
My instance has an aperture device with 10 petals. The lens has an aperture control ring and aperture preset ring, it is pleasant and not difficult to use manual aperture control. You can set the aperture value to F / 16 and use the preset ring to obtain smooth aperture changes without fixing at intermediate values, which is important, for example, for video shooting.
Sample photos on Mir-1 2.8 / 37
Photos without processing. Shot on Canon 350D, with which EGF turned out to be equal to 59,2 mm due to crop factor. When working through the optical viewfinder, the lens gives a faint yellow-green tint, automatic BB The camera does not notice this. It’s quite difficult to focus, I got a prohibitive amount of defective photos due to misses when focusing on my camera Canon 350D.
How to use with modern cameras?
Lenses with mounting thread M42 (M42 X 1 / 45.5), such as the lens from this review, are very easy to use on almost any modern digital camera (both SLR and mirrorless), for this it is enough to choose the right adapter (adapter). You do not need to carry out any additional steps to modify the lens.
The cheapest adapters can be found at Aliexpress.com... There are adapters (adapters) with a chip that provide more convenience during shooting, usually chips are used to confirm focus and / or metering exposure, and form the correct EXIF. The chip does not affect the image quality in any way.
For some SLR cameras (for example, with the Nikon F-mount), you need to use adapters with a corrective lens, which allows you to focus correctly at all focusing distances. For any mirrorless cameras, such a lens is not needed, and the adapter is a simple decorated hollow metal tube with an appropriate mount.
For SLR cameras
- Canon: For cameras Canon EOS with bayonet mount EF / EF-S need an M42-Canon EOS adapter, such an adapter with a chip can be found herewithout chip here.
- NIKON: For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with a Nikon F mount, you need an M42-Nikon F adapter, you can buy such an adapter without a lens and a chip here, with a lens without a chip herewith chip without lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens? Why chip?
- PENTAX: For Pentax cameras with K mount, you need an M42-Pentax K adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.
- SONY/MINOLTA: For cameras with a Sony / Minolta A mount, you need the M42-Sony A adapter, you can find such an adapter without a chip at this linkwith a chip at this link.
- OLYMPUS/PANASONIC/LEICA: For cameras with a 4/3 bayonet mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) You need an M42-4 / 3 adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.
For mirrorless cameras
- SONY: For cameras with 'E'/'FE' mount series SonyNEX и Sony Alpha you need an adapter M42-Sony E (aka M42-Sony Nex), you can find it at this link. An autofocus adapter is also available for these cameras. Techart PRO Leica M - Sony E Autofocus Adapterwhich can be found at this link.
- OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK / XIAOMI: For cameras with a bayonet mount Micro 4/3 (Micro 4:3) you need an adapter M42-Micro 4/3, you can find it at this link.
- CANON M: For cameras with Canon EF-M mount need adapter M42-Canon M, it can be found at this link.
- CANON R and RF-S: For cameras with Canon RF mount need adapter M42-Canon R, it can be found at this link.
- Nikon 1: For cameras Nikon 1 Series need adapter M42-Nikon 1, you can find it at this link.
- Nikon Z: For cameras Nikon Z series (FX/DX) need an adapter M42-Nikon Z, it can be found at this link.
- FUJIFILM X: For cameras with mount X need an M42-Fuji X adapter, you can find it at this link.
- FUJIFILM GFX: For medium format cameras G-mount need M42-Fuji GFX adapter, you can find it at this link.
- SAMSUNG: For cameras with NX mount, you need an M42-Samsung NX adapter, you can find it at this link. There are no adapters for the NX mini camera yet.
- PENTAX: For Q-mount cameras, you need an M42-Pentax Q adapter, you can find it at this link.
- SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with L mount you need an M42-Leica L adapter, you can find it at this link.
- LEICA: For cameras with a bayonet mount Leica M need adapter M42-L / M, you can find it at this link.
If you have any questions on compatibility and adapters - ask in the comments (comments do not require any registration at all).
Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.
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Conclusions:
Mir-1 2.8 / 37 is an interesting fast wide-angle Soviet prime lens. On the crop, it loses its charm a little. There are many modifications of the Mir-1 lens.
Material prepared Arkady Shapoval.
“M42 seating thread (possibly M39 with a M39-M42 ring, as I did not look, I could not determine), the inscription“ GRAND PRIX ”Brussel 1958” This is exactly what it is: the screwed on (probably too tight) ring is visible in the photo with the naked eye! “White” Soviet optics were never produced with M42 mounting threads. It should be remembered that the flange for the M39 is 45.2 mm, not 45.5 mm for the M42.
I have a white world1 of 1963, with an M42 thread. "GRAND PRIX" Brussel 1958 ″ is present.
Sergey, and you don’t hide his case? :)
I sell the lens Mir-1 2.8 / 37 Landing thread M42 inscription "GRAND PRIX" Brussel 1958 ″
Do you still sell MIR-1 2.8 / 37? (I sell the lens Mir-1 2.8 / 37 Landing thread M42 the inscription "GRAND PRIX" Brussel 1958 ″)
It is with M39 thread. They did not make optics in the USSR for compounds that did not exist in the country.
Arkady, I am always looking forward to further reviews of Soviet optics ... every Soviet lens is a legend! Or a myth))))
Indeed, your specimen clearly shows the M39-M42 ring. In the early 70s, the Zagorsk plant also produced black Mir-1 with M42 thread and the inscription “Brussels Grand Prix 1958”. “Zebras” are rarely found - black and white version . I have a variant, in which the front part is white and the back is black, on the M42. The production is clearly factory, not a designer. The picture is no different from the white Zagorsk.
Guys, I want to buy an adapter for this unit, there is an adapter with a chip and without, it’s like if without a chip I can’t use manual focus, but it’s overpaying so decent 50 and 150 hryvnias, and it’s not clear if I have working lenses or not, whether I have Smysl take an adapter with a chip?
I have a black MIR 1B with M42 thread and I am very pleased with this glass. Shooting with Cenon 500D. After five meters, you don't have to bother with focusing. I put it at infinity and everything is in focus. I don't understand people who scold this lens. For leisurely, creative work, it is very suitable.
Do not tell the diameter for the filters / cover?
49 mm
There is Mir1 and Mirv black and silver carvings M39 and M42. there are also lens blocks to them. prices from 2500 to 4000 r for 1 lens mail boss.wret@mail.ru Voronezh write or call 9003023540
In Moscow, the new Mir-1v can be taken for 1200 rubles, and the white gran at Brussels 2000.
I sell a KIEV camera made in the USSR Lens Jupiter-12 1: 2,8 and lens Jupiter-91: 2
Hello!
If you put this lens on a Canon 600d through an “m39 - canon eos” adapter, will it focus at infinity? Will the flange focal length match?
The “m39 - canon eos” adapter purchased on the Internet was a bit thick. Jupiter-11 can still be used normally (apparently I’ll see that when the focus ring rotates, all the lenses move back and forth), only focusing at long distances does not work, naturally focusing on infinity does not.
But on Mir-1 (the same as in the review, but the Krasnogorsk factory, and the inscription about Brussels in Russian) did not focus beyond 1,5-2 meters (on Mir-1, the rear lens remains in place when the focus ring rotates).
The adapter turned out to be 2mm thick. The working segment of the Canon EOS is 44 mm + 2 mm = 46 mm. And for mirrored Soviet M39 lenses, the working segment is 45,2 mm.
At work, a familiar turner grind 0,8 mm from the middle of the adapter.
There is a focus on infinity, everything works fine.
The only small minus is now the range of aperture and focus values is not from above, but from the side. But this is for a person, it does not affect the operation of technology.
I, now, damn it, on Gelika and Industrial ran across infinity with a modified adapter. And the world has a flu scale below. I’ll drill a new hole for the bayonet, in short.
Tell someone how to remake Mir-1 for Nikon to infinity (do not offer adapters with a lens)
For Mir-1 KMZ. On the back of the rear lens there is a washer in it four holes, two of which are screwed in with small screws. You need to unscrew the two screws one turn, you do not need to unscrew the screws completely, after which try to unscrew the washer with your hands counterclockwise. ring. You will see an aluminum washer 1,9 mm thick. It must be grinded down to 1,5 mm. And the working segment will change from 45,3 to 45,5. And there will be infinity. Mail: robot_sekret@mail.ru.
Moscow.
wrong from 45,2 to 45,5
Please tell me what the problem is. I purchased the lens world 1 white. Installed on the FED. The lens was very shortsighted. Further 1-1,5 m focus can not take
You have Mir-1 with an M39 thread, but for SLR cameras. Your FED needs rangefinder lenses, like Mir-1 didn’t have rangefinder lenses. For mirrored M39 lenses, the working segment is 45,2 for rangefinder 28,8. There is a very simple way out for you: you need to grow from 28,8 to 45,2 mm, that is 16,4 mm. Buy a set of M39 macro rings (they will not interfere on the farm). There are 4 pieces, take not the biggest, but the smaller one (16,4 mm) and wind it onto the lens, that’s the whole focus. You can use other mirrored M39 lenses in this way (for example Helios 44 white, Helios 40 white, Jupiter 9 white mirror, etc.).
Absolutely right. There is another interesting option - to remove the extension cord from the INDustar-50 rangefinder, non-tube, and use it as an adapter ring. There 16,4 with smaller tolerances than on the extension ring.
A very good lens. Wonderful bokeh (on film), sharp. Works great in macro. Relatively contrasting. But he is afraid of bright and direct and side light - after all, he has a high light scattering. The hood can't help here, the angle is too wide.
Because of mechanical troubles, this often unscrews the front block. You’ll tighten it, and screwed up the filter again. We already talked about the focus ring. Inconveniently. But at Flektogon it was there :)
If you decide to buy, look only for Zagorsky.
Please tell me, can I use World 1 in a white case on the Canon 5D Mark 3? Mirror will not spoil? Will it hurt?
Thanks for the site and for the article. I have absolutely the same MIR-1 (6609325), that is, year 57-58.
The thread is 39th, but the box says “MIR-1 camera for Zenit camera” Price 45 rubles.
The size at the zenith is not M-42, otherwise I want to screw it onto 7D, I would not want to make a mistake with the adapter.
Thank you!
Yes, an excellent lens. I managed to get the KMZ with the letter “P”, the focal length on the lens is indicated in centimeters (F = 3,7 cm) and No. 003139, presumably 59-61 years old. I had to work a little to make infinity on Canon. get one .robot_sekret@mail.ru
Moscow
It may be normal, but enlightenment will be lilac there, it will give a strong yellowness, with which the white auto balance often does not cope. Although the photos in Retrostil come out. :-)
You have a 56 57 g lens
I got into my hands exactly the same lens, just like Arkady's, but younger by a year. A gorgeous thing! But there is no infinity on canon even. The problem was solved by stitching ~ 0.2-0.3 mm by eye on the Chinese adapter M42-EOS with sandpaper. Yuzal two adapters - a ring m39-m42 and a ring m42-EOS.
Who had to shoot with the MIR-1 machine gun? And how to install it on Nikon D3100? How realistic is this? Thanks in advance.
No way :) you can’t put the machine on Nikon))
There is a lens MIR-I 2,8 / 37
N 820933.
Vkshi offers for the price.
There was still such a world1 with Contax-Kiev under Kiev-2, Kiev-3, Kiev-4, Kiev-5.
Something he does not meet anywhere.
I don't think it's still relevant, but still. White "Worlds" were only on m39. It's just that the adapter often screwed on them is not noticed. In this case, the adapter ring for the “Start” camera is screwed on
Zagorsk 1963
nothing like that turns out on the A65
Who tried Mir-1 white on the Sony A7?
if anyone is interested in selling in Volgograd the same as in the review mir-1. 3000t.r. melva77@mail.ru
I got a Zenit 3M camera, a worker. On it hangs the lens Mir 1, white, the inscription in Russian "Awarded the highest award Grand prix
Brussels 1958
Number with zeros, focal in centime. F = 3,7 cm, lilac enlightenment. The trick is that the diaphragm opens to the other side. Ie you set 2.8 it is closed, you move it to 16 it opens. The presetting of the diaphragm works correctly and in general, nothing is loose. Sharpening on the carcass is correct. There is infinity on the Zenith, but with adapters on the Canone, no. True, they promised to send an adapter compensating for the difference in the focal length. Well, that's all right. Can anyone tell me what's wrong with the diaphragm? Why does it work straight back. I understand that they climbed into it and ... what? And can this be fixed? As an option, do not touch anything and expose the diaphragm by eye, I think you can adapt. Which techie will give you the answer, advice?
I have the same thing on my white MIR-1. The aperture value is set with the upper ring with some effort and click, and the click occurs between the digits (-: let's set the value to 11, turn the middle ring counterclockwise to the end, to value 2,8, 11-actually aperture is closed at XNUMX. In the opposite direction to the end, the hole is completely open. Somehow somehow! I don’t think someone climbed into my copy. Maybe these lenses have such a chip.
At first he took it to the service, they sent it to some of their master on owls. lenses. A day later they call, take it, it should be so. I did not believe it, I found a private trader. The answer is the same - this is correct for this series. At the same time I cleaned and made infinity.
Thank you Andrey! Now I twisted it, I understood. That’s why she didn’t shoot, she was not charged! And then I lifted the kipish in the service. I’ll have to apologize on occasion.
There is still a lot of unknown in the sea of information on Soviet lenses! I also immediately suspected that this was normal for these lenses, since by all external signs, I have it like a new one, as if it had just come from a warehouse. climbed, usually a different kind ...