A bunch of two macro lenses

There is an easy way to get close-ups by using reversible ringsand. Reversible rings are also called rolling rings.

Reversible ring

Reversible ring. The photo poster was shot just on a macro bunch of lenses.

Reversible rings should not be confused with reverse macro adapter... The reversible adapter allows one lens to be mounted backwards on the camera for macro photography. Reversible rings allow fit two lenses with their front thread.

With this docking, the reversing ring simply allows you to connect two lenses, the ring is screwed into the filter thread with one side into one lens, and the other side into the other lens, after which such a bundle is attached to the camera. It turns out that one lens works on the camera in its usual position, and the second lens works in a reversible position, since it is attached to the first one back to front. Roughly speaking, the second lens is a kind of macro lens for the first lensinstalled on the camera.

With this bunch, you can achieve very large increase. Usually, as a lens that operates in normal mode, use telephoto lens, and as the second lens attachment use fast aperture lens.

In this article, I used a Jupiter-37A 135mm F / 3.5 lens as a telephoto lens, and Helios-44-2 as a second lens attachment. To dock the lenses you just need to buy a special reversing adapter. Such an adapter can easy to do yourself with two filters. Below, I give an example of how I made myself such an adapter ring.

To begin with, I had to pull out the glass from the light filter, which served as the docking part for the Helios-44-2 lens, whose thread is 49mm.

49mm thread filter

49mm thread filter

The second filter was a standard 52mm filter, since Jupiter-37A has a front filter diameter of 52mm.

Protective filter with thread diameter 52mm

Safety filter with thread diameter 52mm

Broken glass filter view:

Broken glass lens view

Broken glass lens view

Type of filters after removing the glasses:

Two filters, one 49mm, the second 52mm

Two filters, one 49mm, the second 52mm

After that, two filters are very easy to glue with the help of super glue into the finished reverse ring:

Reversible adapter

Reversible adapter

Thus, I created a reversible adapter for connecting lenses to the front thread of the filter 52mm and 49mm.

Important: when choosing a reverse ring, you need to know the diameter of the front thread of the two lenses with which you will create a bunch for macro photography. For example, in this case, the Jupiter-37A lens has a front filter diameter of 52mm, and the Helios-44-2 lens has a front filter diameter of 49mm, therefore, for the bundle you need reverse ring 49-52.

After you bought or made a reverse ring yourself, it screwed into one and second lens Is very easy to do. For example, I installed the Jupiter-37A lens on the camera, screwed the reversing ring into it, and then simply screwed the Helios-44-2 lens onto the Jupiter-37A.

After that, you can proceed to the shooting itself. True, the shooting has a number of subtleties:

  • Focusing is done using the lens focus ring mounted on the camera in its normal position. If an autofocus lens is used as the primary lens, the ability to automatically focus is retained. In this case, the presence of internal focusing is very desirable.
  • The depth of field control is carried out using the lens aperture device attached to the camera. If you close the diaphragm of the lens attachment, you can get the strongest vignetting.
  • Such a bunch gives a strong vignetting, aperture may not help, but only enhances the vignette.
  • When using manual lenses, measurement is not available on some cameras exposure and / or focus confirmation.
  • This bunch of lenses is very convenient to use with a tripod in focus mode Live View.
A bunch of two lenses

It looks like a bunch of two lenses Jupiter-337A and Helios-44-2

Here's what happens when photographing on such a bunch:

The back side of a one-dollar bill, a radiant delta.

One dollar bill

One dollar bill

With super-macro photography, you can find many amazing details, below the symbolism of the Ukrainian two hryvnia.

Two Ukrainian hryvnia, symbolism

Two Ukrainian hryvnia, symbolism

The depth of field for such a survey is very, very small, the photo below was shot at an aperture value of F / 11.0

Magnification. Very shallow depth of field

Magnification. Very shallow depth of field

If you close the diaphragm on the lens, which acts as a macro lens, you get such a circular effect:

Example of a shot with a closed aperture on Helios-44-2

An example of a shot with a closed aperture on Helios-44-2. Grapefruit slice

In macro mode, everything looks completely different, the photo below shows the grains of rice.

Rice grains

Rice grains

If in such a bundle the main lens is not telephoto, then the vignetting power increases sharply. Below is an example of a picture where a bunch of Helios-81n and Helios-44-2 was used, the first lens is a standard, not a telephoto lens.

Vignetting

Vignetting when using short-focus lenses for a bunch.

Conclusions:

The reversible ring allows you to get macro photography with excellent magnification very cheaply. When using a reverse ring, there are some difficulties described in this article. I find the macro option more convenient with reverse macro adapter.

Help to the project. Thanks for attention. Arkady Shapoval.

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Comments: 84, on the topic: A bunch of two lenses for macro photography

  • Vladislav

    Arkady, thank you agrarian for your work !!! please help us two amateurs. My friend is very fanatical about macro photography and I myself want to click the mosquito on the nose! How easier and easier it is to connect to each other into a macro lens through the existing filter rings and adapters " Helios-44 "and" Granit-11N "Thank you very much in advance! Yours faithfully for your work! Vlad and Alekha Perm region.

  • B.R.P.

    Filmed on such a bunch (Jupiter + Helios). True, on film.

  • anonym

    http://photographers.ua/photo/portret-muhi-206228/
    Here is an example shot on a bunch of Jupiter with Helios

  • Alexey

    Pancake! How do you get such sharp photos from a bunch of Yu37 and G44-2?
    I can’t adequately visit ..; (
    http://cs622317.vk.me/v622317583/904f/mpPcfx_ULaw.jpg
    http://cs619123.vk.me/v619123583/19ca5/u9yA7tqU_-A.jpg

  • Igor

    where did my comment go?)

  • Alexander

    I tried macro photography through Nikon 50 1.8 and Jupiter 37A used an adapter from Jupiter as an adapter, so that it has a thread inside, honestly I was not very satisfied with the pictures, it’s much more interesting through the Macro ring)))

  • Igor

    Good day to all !

    Can't I understand something? In the textbooks on photography, they taught all their lives that for this purpose they use the penny extension rings M42? Is something new invented here?
    A bundle of lenses? Maybe I don't understand something? Yours faithfully…

    • Arkady Shapoval

      In normal textbooks, other options for obtaining macro images were described, such as reversing adapters, lens bundles, etc.

    • BB

      Firstly, not everyone has macro rings, and secondly, the M42 macro rings are not suitable for everyone, and the “native” macro rings are not as cheap as the reversible adapter, moreover, on cheap macro rings for Nikon you will have to “tuck” the diaphragm lead with something Nikon glasses. The autofocus macro rings are generally a good used lens.
      Thirdly, with a successful selection of lenses, sometimes you can get a larger increase than with one set of macro rings.
      And fourthly: if you have two lenses, then you can already try the macro without buying anything :)

      • Igor

        Something I did not see, what would be written in the textbooks about the docking of lenses with a clamp made of tin ... or with a broken light filter?
        Who has a bunch of manual lenses Helios, Jupiters, etc. from Zenith, for sure there are extension rings for Zenith, which at any flea market cost 50 rubles. per set, through adapters to any digital SLR.
        It was interesting for me to read your technical highlights - but for this you need to be a fan of this business and have a little experience in disassembling and assembling optics. If you are, then I respect you. Thanks for the dialogue.

        • Vladislav

          We are not at school to recall textbooks :)
          Problem: the person wants to TRY to shoot macro. For a PROBE, a structure is assembled - yes, even from cardboard, and the person gets the result, and then he decides whether he needs it or not, whether it is worth buying and making reversible adapters, macro rings, etc.
          By the way, there are also macro lenses as an option, but the cheap ones do not even have enlightenment, but really high-quality ones - they are not cheaper than extension rings, while they will still slightly worsen the picture quality, and for a DSLR the thing is almost useless (I bought inexpensive ones, lie down, collect dust ), but for a device with a small matrix - yes. On my Panasonic FZ50 on an EGF 420mm, the macro lens allows shooting from a distance of about 40cm, and there is no particular loss of quality (10MP matrix, if anything), and when instead of a macro lens, instead of a macrolens, a Soviet fifty-dollar lens was “attached” to it backwards, it turned out to be a super macro, you can build look at the fibers of the fabric))
          In the photo Nikon_D5100 + Jupiter 37a + two sets of macro rings between them

        • Vladislav

          But the Panasonic FZ 50 with a macro lens +2
          (I can't find something supermacro with a shape-shifter ...)

        • Vladislav

          And here is the Panas.FZ50 + leaned helios-44 (the approximate frame borders, sheet A4 are highlighted in the green area below)

          • Vladislav

            And the most ordinary bedspread, shot in the same way

  • Igor

    Vladislav, I am happy for you! By the way, what kind of tripod do you use for macro?
    What is the best budget tripod?

    • BB

      Since the system turns out to be long, any miserable vibrations turn into grease, so that the trigger cable, or the self-timer + the preliminary raising of the mirror to help you, Ideally, you need to shift the point of attachment of the system to the center of gravity.
      In the photo, the cheap Velbon C440 tripod is my first tripod, not suitable for macro and heavy equipment. Later I bought a Velbon Sherpa 250R, at that time it cost about $ 100, bought it for about $ 70 for a stock - this is already a good tripod, it's also good to get macrorails - the Chinese produce quite affordable products. If the length of the macro rail is sufficient (for me, for example, 300mm), you can fix the carcass at the end farthest from the subject, and put something under the lens, this will also reduce vibrations.

  • Igor

    macrorails - do you mean accordion rails? A good thing…
    In the 80s, Zenit shot all sorts of little things, so he attached the camera to a tripod from the Niva enlarger, a very rigid structure was obtained.

    • BB

      No, with an "accordion" - this is a macromech - in fact - a substitute for macro rings (also a good thing).
      I mean the macro rails that are mounted on a tripod, the apparatus is mounted on them. Macro rail has a mechanism for smooth movement of the apparatus relative to the tripod, which allows focusing by the method of movement of the apparatus relative to the subject.

  • Igor

    I remember in the 70s there was a universal hobby - holography on German photographic plates
    Agfa-hevert. Those who had laser equipment - they installed special massive slabs (concrete, etc.) - in order to avoid shaking and took pictures on them.
    I don't know how now with the arrival of 3d 4d 5d, etc ....?

  • Pavlo

    Good day, zatsavivsya cr_plennyam through reverse kіltsya dvoh obktivіv.
    mayu
    * Nikkor AF D 85mm. f1 / 8 (62 diameters)
    * AF D 70-210 mm f.4 -5.6 (62 diameters)
    * AF S 50mm f1.4 G (67 diameters)
    * Tamron 28-75mm. f2.8 A09NII (67 diameters)
    How beautiful is it, brothers, obktivi s quietly, what is it in manifestation for the connection and the result?
    Zrozum_v, scho put a pre-focus on the camera and screw it on. You can use the rear lens without risk, so you can buy a simple manual with a simple handset and a ring of diaphragms.
    Macro meni potribne pomirne, mainly subject http://wilgon.ucoz.ru/novyj_risunok-84.png.

  • Pavlo

    Good day, I’ve closed to the camera through the reverse camera and the Nikon D700 camera.
    mayu
    * Nikkor AF D 85mm. f1 / 8 (62 diameters)
    * AF D 70-210 mm f.4 -5.6 (62 diameters)
    * AF S 50mm f1.4 G (67 diameters)
    * Tamron 28-75mm. f2.8 A09NII (67 diameters)
    How beautiful is it, brothers, obktivi s quietly, what is it in manifestation for the connection and the result?
    Zrozum_v, scho put a pre-focus on the camera and screw it on. You can use the rear lens without risk, so you can buy a simple manual with a simple handset and a ring of diaphragms.
    Macro meni potribne pomirne, mainly subject http://wilgon.ucoz.ru/novyj_risunok-84.png.

  • Alexander

    The easiest way to connect two Helios is to unscrew a little lock nut in front of the front lens and get up like a native !!!

  • Kristina

    And I just put Helios in the hood of Jupiter: D I hold both lenses perfectly, and if you use the flash and lightroom, it’s completely impossible.

  • ROOMFO

    I want to share my version of creating a macro ring roomfo.livejournal.com/2687.html (Arkady do not scold for the link) :)

  • anonym

    I ordered “daddy-daddy” connecting rings of different diameters on aliexpress (I don't want to smoke filters and fool around with gluing), I will experiment. I will shoot static flat objects and try to achieve the highest magnification. It is clear that there are special microscopes for this, but somehow for the sake of half a thousand dollars, by and large, I don’t want to play for them, but the lenses are already there.
    I have hopes for a bunch of Konica Hexanon AR 200mm f / 3.2 + Olympus Pen-F 40mm f / 1.4, and this whole telescope will be mounted on NEX-6 (APS-C mirrorless). I can’t wait until everything arrives. Let's see what happens :)

  • anonym

    why break filters and “reinvent the wheel” Jupiter-37A hood perfectly connects Jupiter-37A and Helios-44-2

  • Alexander

    And it is not necessary to break glass in filters. There is a lock nut, and it unscrews perfectly ... Although, to be honest, I still knocked out the glass in the first filter ... and only after that did I find the lock nut ... :(

  • Julia

    Hello, tell me please. On Nikon d700 I connect two lenses (Jupiter 37a + Helios 81h), I attach Jupiter to the carcass and already on top of Helios, 90% of the image is blurry and only the line in the center is in focus. Why is that? Before that I connected (Nikkor 50 1.8d + Helios 81h), there was a vignette, but the whole image is in focus. How to make the jupiter and helios bundle also be?

  • Mihailo

    Hello, I took Jupiter 37a and attached Helios 44th to it through the reverse ring. Depth of field is only a couple of millimeters, how to increase it? Only by staking through some acc. Software (that I just read about)? While insects are filmed, they will not sit and wait until I set up a tripod, take five to seven photographs for subsequent gluing.

    • B. R. P.

      Basically, these insects are non-living.

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