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Review of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII, piston, trombone)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) is an old school professional high-aperture telephoto zoom lens.
Nikon Nikkor Professional Telephoto Lenses
Since the release of the first professional-focus autofocus lens of the 80-200 / 2.8 class, much water has flowed. During this time, the 70 (80) -200 / 2.8 line developed, resulting in many versions.
A complete and accurate list of all Nikkon Nikkor class 70(80)-(180)200/2.8 autofocus professional lenses:
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8 (MKI) - November 1987 to September 1992, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - from September 1992 to 1997, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) - January 1997 to present, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D Silent Wave Motor (MKIV, AF-S) - from December 1998 to 2003, 18 elements in 14 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon ED AF-S VR-Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8G Vibration Reduction SWM IF (MKV, VRI) from February 2003 to January 2009, 21 elements in 15 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8GII ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat SWM IF (MKVI, VRII) - July 2009 to present, 21 elements in 16 groups (with 7 ED elements).
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat (MKVII, E) - from October 2016 to the present, 22 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 1 FL, 1 HRI element). There is a rare subversion Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat Nikon 100th Anniversary (100th Anniversary) - April 2017 to present, features a metallic gray finish with the Nikon 100th Anniversary logo).
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-200mm 1: 2.8 VR S (MK VIII, Z, S-series) - from January 2020 to the present day. Nikon Z mirrorless version, 21 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 2 ASP, 1 FL, 1 SR)
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-180mm 1: 2.8 (MK IX,Z) - from June 2023 to the present day. Version for Nikon Z mirrorless cameras, 19 elements in 14 groups (5 ED, 3 ASP, 1 SUPER ED), diagram from Tamron 70-180mm F / 2.8 Di III VXD Model A056
Some are adding new ones to this list. Nikon N AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 4G ED SWM VR IF Nano Crystal Coat.
ID Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The version presented in this review is the second in a row, it is often called the 'version MKII'so that you can quickly distinguish what is being said. All three first versions MKI, MKII, MKIII have the same optical design. Roughly speaking, all three versions can give a picture indistinguishable from each other (but, in fact, the first version is much worse than the others). Of course, each subsequent version was finalized and received new opportunities. Nikon ED AF version Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII), from this review, was able to transmit the focusing distance to the camera, which allows using 3D Matrix Metering matrix metering with a number of cameras, also D version simplifies flash operation. Of course, each subsequent version improved optically.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D can be used on old film cameras as a lens AI-S type, and on autofocus film cameras, on full-frame cameras and on Nikon cropped cameras. On APS-C format cameras (Nikon DX) EGF lens will match 120-300 mm... Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D has an unusually strong construction, you can immediately feel a well-made thing in your hands.
Rear View Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Auto focus on the lens slow. Focus speed can be increased by using focus stopmounted on the lens. The limiter can switch the lens to one of the modes Full / limit... In the 'Full' mode the lens can focus from 1.4 m to infinity, and in the 'Limit' mode only from 1.8 m. The focusing of the lens is not internal, but due to the successful lens design, the trunk does not lengthen when focusing. If you use the usual protective filter, you may not notice the movement of the front lenses. Also, when zooming, the lens does not change its physical size, which is very convenient - the lens internal zoom. The lens has a Nikon focus system CRC (close range correction - correction at close focusing distances). Also, the lens has a 'M-A' focus mode switching ring, the ring has a special lock-button, to switch the lens to manual focusing, just use the switch on the lens.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: lens zoom ring and manual focus ring are aligned, which is why the lens is often called 'single ring'. The focus ring rotates approximately 45 degrees in manual focus mode. The focusing ring is simply huge, it is very convenient to focus on the focus. The lens has a focusing distance scale, but does not have a DOF scale. In auto focus mode, the focus ring rotates freely and does not affect the focusing process.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) with hood on the ZK
Important: the lens uses an unusual method of changing the focal length, the so-called piston method (also called 'push pull'). To change the focal length, you just need to pull the 'piston' towards you or away from you. Moreover, the maximum focal length is available when the piston is in the closest position to the camera, and the minimum when the piston is as far from the camera as possible. This 'backwards' method takes some getting used to. When transporting the lens, the piston can spontaneously change the focal length under its own weight. It is very pleasant that when changing the focal length, as well as when focusing, the back lens remains motionless.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
It's important: auto focus with this lens is available only when using him on cameras with built-in motor focusing.
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras with a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will focus automatically:
- D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs
- D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6
- Df
- D50, D70, D70s, D80, D90
- D7000, D7100, D7200,D7500
- D100, D200, D300, D300s,D500
- D600, D610, D750, D780
- D700, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850
- Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 ProS3 Pro UVIR, S5 ProIS Pro
- Kodak DCS PRO 14n, DCS Pro SLR/n
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras without a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will not focus automatically:
Only auto focus and sound confirmation of focus will not work with these cameras, all other important functions, such as automatic exposure metering and automatic iris control, will work well.
You will find a lot of useful information on the types of cameras and lenses Nikon here.
Enlightenment Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: the lens has an aperture control ring. In order for the lens to start working normally on modern CZKs, you need to set the f / 22 value on the lens and snap a special switch near the aperture control ring. After such a manipulation, the aperture can be controlled from the camera, in more detail in the section on Non-G type lens.
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200mm 1: 4-5.6G ED VR IF and Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The lens has a maximum aperture of F / 2.8, which is available over the entire range of focal lengths. Given the large focal length of the lens, you need to remember about the effect of the grease at slow shutter speeds. More details in the section on how take off.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2) with mounted hood for transportation
Image quality
On Nikon DX cameras, the lens is sharp already at F / 2.8 over the entire range of focal lengths, except 200 mm. At 200mm it is advisable to cover the diaphragm. The lens gives excellent contrast, has a slight distortion. Aberrations are present, but very slight. It’s also funny that the 200mm lens tightens the background a lot, it seems that the pictures are similar to Soviet helioswho love the background twist very much. When shooting at F / 4, the lens becomes very sharp :).
On the open aperture Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) very noticeably twists the background
In general, the image quality is excellent. The bokeh deserves special attention, which is quite good at open apertures. It's a pity, but in spite of the 9-blade diaphragm, you can see the 'nuts' on the covered diaphragms in the blur zone. Image quality can be improved by using a lens hood such as the native HB-7.
You can find more examples of photos on this lens in the reviews. Fujifilm FinePix S2 Pro и Nikon D300s.
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Personal experience
Now you will not meet modern lenses with a piston design, and this is quite convenient, since the focus ring is immediately a zoom ring. The lens lacks an image stabilizer, at 200mm the picture twitches strongly in the viewfinder, and excerpt when shooting should be at least 1 \ 200s. I shot on a cloudy day, and at ISO 200, the f / 2.8 aperture barely made it possible to shoot at 1 \ 200s, so I want to note that f / 2.8 is not a panacea. If you need a real aperture, then fast fixes can come to the rescue. In principle, a single 80mm high-aperture prime can handle the tasks of the heavy Nikon ED AF Nikkor 200-1mm 2.8: 135D (MKII). 135mm is just the middle between 80-200mm, (200 + 80) \\ 2 = 140.
Crop 1 to 1, without processing, only added shooting parameters (one of the readers asked the moon)
Newer model Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) has exactly the same optical design as the MKII and MKI, so you don't have to be afraid and save money using the MKII or MKI, although the MKIII has a faster focusing system and a tripod socket, and not everyone will be comfortable using the 'trombone'. The lens of the 80-200 \ 2.8 class most often acts as a good portrait lens, professional wedding photographers are very fond of this range, and the high-aperture zoom 80-200 itself is included in the top three of the classic set 14 (16) -24 (28), 24 (28) -70 ( 80), 70 (80) -200. A good alternative to the lenses of the 80-200 \ 2.8 series can serve as an old high-quality Nikon 70-210mm f / 4 AF. Also, for inexpensive, you can find old versions of similar lenses from third-party manufacturers: Sigma 70-200mm 1: 2.8 APO EX HSM, Tokina AT-X AF SD 80-200mm 1: 2.8, Tamron SP AF LD 70-210mm 1: 2.8 67DN, Tokina AT-X PRO 80-200mm 1: 2.8 , Sigma AF Zoom APO 70-210mm 1: 2.8 etc.
Key Features of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2)
Conclusions
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - legendary lenswhich after many years can please with its excellent picture. I recommend for full-frame cameras.
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Arkady, I choose between 80-200 2.8 mk2 and 180 2.8 ais. The lens is primarily for portraits on the street. 80-200 costs about $ 80-100 more. What do you advise?
I’ll advise you to determine exactly if you need autofocus. Then the choice will be obvious.
Autofocus is not critical. There is good, no, well, okay. What matters is the picture that the lens gives
Then 180 au-s will be just right.
Picked up 180 and 80-200. The question has disappeared by itself. 80-200 is too bulky for daily use. And five times you really think whether to take it with you just for a walk. But 180 really liked. I will watch autofocus
The question of dimensions is very difficult ... Here either the convenience of focal points, or bother with fixes ... I have 2 bags, you can buy a backpack ...
80-200, first of all, is convenient for focusing ... The picture is also good ...
80-200, 135, open
He's an example of color rendering ...
Arkady, at 200mm \ open you have surprisingly excellent shots ... Here the glass has problems with the BF, it's hard to get in ...
I will add an example on the crop, for the doubters, on the open ...
I was shocked to the core by the amazing power of photographic art and lens design!
So you are not a theoretician, but a true connoisseur and connoisseur of photography ...
And then!
You, for a start, place something intelligible, otherwise, apart from the sad dogs behind, nothing is visible from you, you are a regular critic ...
Well, my work is then published in reviews, not in comments. ;))
I think Arkady has enough taste to decide how intelligible to place in articles.
Listen, cat, show me a portrait ... Kill me with authority ... I'm waiting, I miss ...
they are on the site and in the articles.
As you say there - look!
Although, whatever it is, I will not torment you with searches. For example, in the d3100 review, most of the examples given are my frames, and they are signed there.
In the s5 pro review, for example, there is also part of my work. ;))
And you, Igoresha, between changing carcasses and lenses, it would be nice to take up photography, show what you have achieved, surprise ... There are many of you clowns ...
Come on, don’t be angry and don’t call me names, you’re our brutal :)
Where did you get it from? Igor, show me at least something ...
Well, schA, I'll dig, maybe I'll find something, you understand there is such complexity that I am used to respect for private life, I cannot take pictures and publish without demand ... well, I'll take a look ...
in short, problematic, everything is too private, I took an old photo on my social network, something that looks like a portrait ... nikon d5100 nickname 50mm 1,4d
something like this…
but this does not deprive me of the right to pick up the felt-tip pens that I like before, while nothing interfered at all, I took a quiet shot of whales 18-70,
and now, imagine, I want it differently - and what :)
but this one the other day - I notice the difference and namana for me :) but if it will be 810 - it will be even more beautiful (for me personally :)
The photo is good, the girl too, let's do it in the same spirit ...
Lynx also once criticized me, but looked at his work and realized that not everything is so bad with me !!!!
[!] Alexey DV
Rei Ayanami, I would be very grateful if you or Arkady also cleaned up this thieves romance, because this nonsense does not cause the most positive emotions for adequate people.
the choice between this lens and the Nikon AF Nikkor 70-210mm 1: 4
at a price difference of 5 thousand, who used it, wonders where the focus will be faster
and what’s your opinion, where the picture is artistically more interesting
Thank you in advance)
I used a couple of years 70-210 f4, though in crop (d7000). They are similar in figure, but 80-200 have less distortion and a nicer (as for me) bokeh, faster and more accurate AF, but it's all about using on the FF (d700). Both this and this in the 200mm region have BF (80-200 is not strong). 70-210 had a strong friging, not always, but annoying. 80-200 is better in all IMHO.
Thank you very much Vitaly for the tip)
True, during this time I tried both lenses, and I didn’t like the level of chrome aberration in f4, and in the second one the focus ring got stuck and decided to refuse to buy and first decided to buy a lighter fix 180mm 2,8 nikkor, but something on it so the prices on the secondary have skyrocketed, in St. Petersburg they are asking for 35 thousand for it,
after a couple of months of waiting, I decided to take a new version of the fix sigma 150mm f2,8 macro, with a stabilizer and a built-in motor, completely new for a guarantee of 32 thousand, the owner died without testing, and his brother, who does not take it, sold it, this is of course macro fluttering, but killed immediately two birds with one stone bought a new macro lens to replace the sigma mid-drive, and bought a great short telephoto, with razor sharpness and a complete lack of frigging even in the open.
Macro lenses are another opera. There is no such pattern (at least distortion) as in 80-200 and 70-210. A portrait can be done and boke will even be fine, but ... Macro for beetles / flowers / objects, and 80-200 is a portrait lens with all that it implies. All my IMHO, of course.
In the lab it has a bit of astigmatism but still very sharp and contrasty. It's better than most other single focal length Nikkor lenses to which I've compared it directly! This is a very, very sharp lens.
Good afternoon.
I have a Nikon 7100
I want to take this universal lens.
advise something ???
I advise: if you want - take
Arkady, so which of the review will work best in conjunction with 7100. Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Tell me, is there a tripod mount for this lens like on MK3?
As such, no, but you can get it somewhere. Will be attached to the ring.
I took the first version yesterday in good condition, for reasonable money. Before that, it was 80-200 from kenon, but since I switched to nikon, I decided to add it to the collection. At 2.8, the pattern is a little soft and the grip is small, there is no soap. At 3,5 it is already quite sharp, from 4,5 onwards it is razor sharp. Autofocus is fast enough, though not lightning fast. I must say that the 80-200 from the kenon behaved the same way, but was much more expensive. By the way, at aperture from 3,5 to 5.6 bokeh is more interesting. In general, I'm happy as an elephant. The drawing is fabulously beautiful ...
Tell me who knows ... which lens was in those days of the same class up to 80 mm?
TBU
But the manufacturer did not cover these missing 10 mm? Should there be a couple of this 80-200?
the top zoom up to 80 mm was not released, so ...
these 10 mm are not critical. Moreover, there are 70-200 / 2.8
Fortunately, I give Arkady ...
Faced a problem. Gives strong software at all focal lengths with insufficient lighting. I have MK2 and d700. Is there a solution to this problem? In the light, it is absolutely sharp at all focal and any aperture.
Question to the owners of 80-200 mk2: on my copy spontaneously changes fr (the zoom goes easily). Is this critical? Carry in for repair? How does your zoom behave?
the zoom behaves the same way, if the lens did not understand and there are no other problems, do not carry in repair in any case
Thanks! There are no other problems, it hits clearly on all fr (except 200mm at a distance close to mdf), af is fast (though not soundless). Strain these movements back and forth with a ram ...
hanging the camera down with the lens, I hold the lens with my hand so that it does not knock when it zooms in :), get used to it, because the lens itself is very happy and you cease to notice annoying little things. And yes, 200 mm smears at close ranges. I have 180 2.8 MK4, it is smaller, sharper at the edges of the frame (on the open aperture), but I like the 80-200 more.
I'm on the D700 is not very. can someone help to understand something is wrong with the camera, or with a lens.
these lenses have a feature - they blur focus at 200 mm and small focusing distances. The simplest solution is not to use 200 mm at distances up to 10 m (you can understand this distance experimentally), but to use a range of up to 180 mm. In the range of 80-180, it is necessary to set the focus correction in the camera (again by experience) and everything should be ok.
Thanks!! I already noticed that something was wrong at 200mm, I could not understand it was blurry or did not fall into focus.
I just expected more from the lens
Before that, I had a d3200, a 50mm f / 1.4 manual, the pictures were super-sharp and simple, I understand that the fix is fixed, but 80-200 is also not an amateur level.
on my D800 this lens shows normal sharpness https://500px.com/photo/175733309/autumn-portrait-by-yuriy-segeda?ctx_page=1&from=user&user_id=9338611
and also liked C5Pro
And 200mm too?
the photo both on the link and in the picture were taken at 200 mm 2.8, as for me - normal sharpness
if without processing, very good, mine doesn’t take it that way)))
More photos
Hello! Someone came across this: he bites the focusing helicoid, in the range from MDF to about 3 meters freely scrolls with a screwdriver, then "rests". Scrolls by hand in M mode from three meters to infinity with noticeable resistance, but the screwdriver does not scroll back from infinity either. Is it being treated? I would not like to burn the motor in the cell.
The lens itself is in almost perfect condition, it came from eBau, judging by the screws, did not understand, inside under the lenses is clean.
I took 80-200 / 2,8 2 versions on the d-90 I can’t understand there are misses in sharpness I tried to check the back focus, it seems that normally there is 2,8 sharpness and sometimes there is no 4 or it’s so trembling in my hands. Well, focus 200 is definitely sharper worse
I took it (MKII) for sports reporting instead of 70-200 / 4, compensated for the lack of a stub with a tripod. Indoors, if you need a maximum exposure of 1/800, holes 4 and 2.8 are two big differences in terms of ISO and background. The focus is of course slower, but not critical. The back and side light certainly keeps worse, but overall I am satisfied.
The back focus was compensated by software in the camera, I had to set the maximum value to -20, this works up to 185 mm, at 200 there is still a small back. I put on two rubber bands between the piston and the stops of the focus mode switch ring so that the focus would not go beyond 185 mm. The lens pleases with "film" colors and a natural picture in general. If you have hands, you are quite a reporter.
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