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Review of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII, piston, trombone)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) is an old school professional high-aperture telephoto zoom lens.
Nikon Nikkor Professional Telephoto Lenses
Since the release of the first professional-focus autofocus lens of the 80-200 / 2.8 class, much water has flowed. During this time, the 70 (80) -200 / 2.8 line developed, resulting in many versions.
A complete and accurate list of all Nikkon Nikkor class 70(80)-(180)200/2.8 autofocus professional lenses:
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8 (MKI) - November 1987 to September 1992, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - from September 1992 to 1997, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) - January 1997 to present, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D Silent Wave Motor (MKIV, AF-S) - from December 1998 to 2003, 18 elements in 14 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon ED AF-S VR-Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8G Vibration Reduction SWM IF (MKV, VRI) from February 2003 to January 2009, 21 elements in 15 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8GII ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat SWM IF (MKVI, VRII) - July 2009 to present, 21 elements in 16 groups (with 7 ED elements).
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat (MKVII, E) - from October 2016 to the present, 22 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 1 FL, 1 HRI element). There is a rare subversion Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat Nikon 100th Anniversary (100th Anniversary) - April 2017 to present, features a metallic gray finish with the Nikon 100th Anniversary logo).
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-200mm 1: 2.8 VR S (MK VIII, Z, S-series) - from January 2020 to the present day. Nikon Z mirrorless version, 21 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 2 ASP, 1 FL, 1 SR)
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-180mm 1: 2.8 (MK IX,Z) - from June 2023 to the present day. Version for Nikon Z mirrorless cameras, 19 elements in 14 groups (5 ED, 3 ASP, 1 SUPER ED), diagram from Tamron 70-180mm F / 2.8 Di III VXD Model A056
Some are adding new ones to this list. Nikon N AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 4G ED SWM VR IF Nano Crystal Coat.
ID Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The version presented in this review is the second in a row, it is often called the 'version MKII'so that you can quickly distinguish what is being said. All three first versions MKI, MKII, MKIII have the same optical design. Roughly speaking, all three versions can give a picture indistinguishable from each other (but, in fact, the first version is much worse than the others). Of course, each subsequent version was finalized and received new opportunities. Nikon ED AF version Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII), from this review, was able to transmit the focusing distance to the camera, which allows using 3D Matrix Metering matrix metering with a number of cameras, also D version simplifies flash operation. Of course, each subsequent version improved optically.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D can be used on old film cameras as a lens AI-S type, and on autofocus film cameras, on full-frame cameras and on Nikon cropped cameras. On APS-C format cameras (Nikon DX) EGF lens will match 120-300 mm... Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D has an unusually strong construction, you can immediately feel a well-made thing in your hands.
Rear View Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Auto focus on the lens slow. Focus speed can be increased by using focus stopmounted on the lens. The limiter can switch the lens to one of the modes Full / limit... In the 'Full' mode the lens can focus from 1.4 m to infinity, and in the 'Limit' mode only from 1.8 m. The focusing of the lens is not internal, but due to the successful lens design, the trunk does not lengthen when focusing. If you use the usual protective filter, you may not notice the movement of the front lenses. Also, when zooming, the lens does not change its physical size, which is very convenient - the lens internal zoom. The lens has a Nikon focus system CRC (close range correction - correction at close focusing distances). Also, the lens has a 'M-A' focus mode switching ring, the ring has a special lock-button, to switch the lens to manual focusing, just use the switch on the lens.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: lens zoom ring and manual focus ring are aligned, which is why the lens is often called 'single ring'. The focus ring rotates approximately 45 degrees in manual focus mode. The focusing ring is simply huge, it is very convenient to focus on the focus. The lens has a focusing distance scale, but does not have a DOF scale. In auto focus mode, the focus ring rotates freely and does not affect the focusing process.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) with hood on the ZK
Important: the lens uses an unusual method of changing the focal length, the so-called piston method (also called 'push pull'). To change the focal length, you just need to pull the 'piston' towards you or away from you. Moreover, the maximum focal length is available when the piston is in the closest position to the camera, and the minimum when the piston is as far from the camera as possible. This 'backwards' method takes some getting used to. When transporting the lens, the piston can spontaneously change the focal length under its own weight. It is very pleasant that when changing the focal length, as well as when focusing, the back lens remains motionless.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
It's important: auto focus with this lens is available only when using him on cameras with built-in motor focusing.
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras with a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will focus automatically:
- D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs
- D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6
- Df
- D50, D70, D70s, D80, D90
- D7000, D7100, D7200,D7500
- D100, D200, D300, D300s,D500
- D600, D610, D750, D780
- D700, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850
- Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 ProS3 Pro UVIR, S5 ProIS Pro
- Kodak DCS PRO 14n, DCS Pro SLR/n
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras without a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will not focus automatically:
Only auto focus and sound confirmation of focus will not work with these cameras, all other important functions, such as automatic exposure metering and automatic iris control, will work well.
You will find a lot of useful information on the types of cameras and lenses Nikon here.
Enlightenment Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: the lens has an aperture control ring. In order for the lens to start working normally on modern CZKs, you need to set the f / 22 value on the lens and snap a special switch near the aperture control ring. After such a manipulation, the aperture can be controlled from the camera, in more detail in the section on Non-G type lens.
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200mm 1: 4-5.6G ED VR IF and Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The lens has a maximum aperture of F / 2.8, which is available over the entire range of focal lengths. Given the large focal length of the lens, you need to remember about the effect of the grease at slow shutter speeds. More details in the section on how take off.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2) with mounted hood for transportation
Image quality
On Nikon DX cameras, the lens is sharp already at F / 2.8 over the entire range of focal lengths, except 200 mm. At 200mm it is advisable to cover the diaphragm. The lens gives excellent contrast, has a slight distortion. Aberrations are present, but very slight. It’s also funny that the 200mm lens tightens the background a lot, it seems that the pictures are similar to Soviet helioswho love the background twist very much. When shooting at F / 4, the lens becomes very sharp :).
On the open aperture Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) very noticeably twists the background
In general, the image quality is excellent. The bokeh deserves special attention, which is quite good at open apertures. It's a pity, but in spite of the 9-blade diaphragm, you can see the 'nuts' on the covered diaphragms in the blur zone. Image quality can be improved by using a lens hood such as the native HB-7.
You can find more examples of photos on this lens in the reviews. Fujifilm FinePix S2 Pro и Nikon D300s.
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Personal experience
Now you will not meet modern lenses with a piston design, and this is quite convenient, since the focus ring is immediately a zoom ring. The lens lacks an image stabilizer, at 200mm the picture twitches strongly in the viewfinder, and excerpt when shooting should be at least 1 \ 200s. I shot on a cloudy day, and at ISO 200, the f / 2.8 aperture barely made it possible to shoot at 1 \ 200s, so I want to note that f / 2.8 is not a panacea. If you need a real aperture, then fast fixes can come to the rescue. In principle, a single 80mm high-aperture prime can handle the tasks of the heavy Nikon ED AF Nikkor 200-1mm 2.8: 135D (MKII). 135mm is just the middle between 80-200mm, (200 + 80) \\ 2 = 140.
Crop 1 to 1, without processing, only added shooting parameters (one of the readers asked the moon)
Newer model Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) has exactly the same optical design as the MKII and MKI, so you don't have to be afraid and save money using the MKII or MKI, although the MKIII has a faster focusing system and a tripod socket, and not everyone will be comfortable using the 'trombone'. The lens of the 80-200 \ 2.8 class most often acts as a good portrait lens, professional wedding photographers are very fond of this range, and the high-aperture zoom 80-200 itself is included in the top three of the classic set 14 (16) -24 (28), 24 (28) -70 ( 80), 70 (80) -200. A good alternative to the lenses of the 80-200 \ 2.8 series can serve as an old high-quality Nikon 70-210mm f / 4 AF. Also, for inexpensive, you can find old versions of similar lenses from third-party manufacturers: Sigma 70-200mm 1: 2.8 APO EX HSM, Tokina AT-X AF SD 80-200mm 1: 2.8, Tamron SP AF LD 70-210mm 1: 2.8 67DN, Tokina AT-X PRO 80-200mm 1: 2.8 , Sigma AF Zoom APO 70-210mm 1: 2.8 etc.
Key Features of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2)
Conclusions
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - legendary lenswhich after many years can please with its excellent picture. I recommend for full-frame cameras.
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Greetings Arkady!
Please advise a lens for portraiture on the street (wedding production).
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) or (MKIII) there is still the opportunity to take MK4 (but for some reason the price is suspiciously low 10000 thousand)
Is it difficult to shoot at 200 without a stub? What is the average shutter speed needed 1 / 200-1 / 300 ??
Thanks in advance for the advice;)
MK4, 200mm better shutter speed is shorter, but you can get used to 1/200.
Heavy truth (((
Until the end of the day, hands will fall off)))
Thank you for your reply!
Many thanks to the author for this review and for the resource as a whole, you have a lot of interesting :)
The question regarding this lens: I buy it on ebay, and noticed that MK2 is with a hood, there is without a hood. It means that there are no mounts under the hood, although the markings seem identical. Is it the same lens with a slight update, or is it some other, more advanced lens?
Visually in the design, this is their one difference. Here in the review appears Kakraz with a blend.
But on this link without the hood mounts http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1OVgxNjAw/z/bKcAAOSwF1dUM2J~/$_57.JPG
Thank you
Be careful, the version you are talking about is MKI (without the 'D' in the title and with a different focus limiter). The review says that there were a bunch of versions.
Thanks! Figured out)
Ie the main difference is that it does not transmit the distance? Is the optical circuit the same?
And also focus speed?
Of course, there are more differences, I pointed out to you how you can quickly determine the model.
Thanks for your answers!
ordered MK2 :)
another question arose, in the review it is written that when installing filters, the lenses actually spin inside, I want to clarify, that is, the trunk itself does not rotate in any way? That is, is it convenient to use a polarizer.
And one more thing, will a lens such as MK3, a petal lens, become on this lens?
Thank you
The trunk does not rotate and remains in place. As for the hood, I can’t say for sure whether MK3 will be on it.
Maybe someone will come in handy, the answer to my question above is: the petal hood from MK3 (HB-7II) is suitable for MK2.
Thank you very much for your work, Arkady, I bought such a lens after studying your site. Extremely nice thing.
Hello Arkady, tell me please, is it worth it to change the Nikon 70-210 f4 to the lens from this review if you still have to pay about 10t.rub. Thank you in advance. Happy birthday to Radozhiv.
Nikon invented the first 80-200mm f / 2,8 in 1982 and updates it every five years. The latest version with VR 2 is the 7th version of this lens !!!! I had MK3., but I updated it to the latest version with vr2., (the one that has been produced since 2009). - I'm just in love with it. !! as Ken Rockwell wrote - the lens - can be sold in 10 years, and it will not lose value. - and the carcass loses its value very quickly. so don't be shy and take good glass, it's more important! better to dig a little, and enjoy the pictures taken.
If we take into account the first versions of ai, AI-S, then VR2 is the eighth revision of the lens. If we take into account only autofocus models - then the 6th.
here is their story http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=ru&u=http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/80-200mm-history.htm&usg=ALkJrhjlG_OPcHQ8cb1tDWh5YxZt_rHyKA
That's right, take a count and get the eighth. At the very beginning of the review, I indicated the same lineup, but for autofocus lenses. And Uncle Kenny added the Chinese dweller 70-200mm with F 4 there, I wonder why :(.
oh well. everyone understood everything)). people read))
I also did not immediately come to VR 2., because it costs not a lot of money., but after shooting at MK3, I decided on a new thing., and I think that I was captured by this focal from the company. successfully perform this telephoto. change so if only at 200mm f / 2.0G ED VR II AF-S))))., but that's another story)))
Hello! I wanted a portrait 85 / 1.8d, and the other day I came across an offer 80-200 2.8 af mark I. The difference in price (both bu) is $ 30. According to the picture, it seems that the fix loses (or is it still subjective), but wins in terms of compactness. Although I like both. Does it make sense to take an old and hardened zoom? The soul is torn - people help !!))))
Everyone must make their own decisions ... Optically 80-200 is definitely better, besides, it is also more versatile ...
80-200 the old man is good. The lack of a stabilizer when working at the long end imposes certain restrictions. For me, the “disadvantage” (deliberately put in quotes) is weight and dimensions. You have to walk with him very consciously))).
Thanks for the recommendation !!
I have Sigma 30 / 1.4, Nikkor 50 / 1.8 and this lens, as for me with 80-200 / 2.8 is the most difficult to work with, and 30 is the easiest (of course they are not analogues). 80-200 in low light requires strong hands and / or high ISO. It is very difficult to shoot “movement” in a room: the depth of field is narrow, the lens “sausages” well, especially at 200 - getting a “shake” and additionally going out of focus is a trifling matter if the object is not nailed naturally. So I recommend that you think well or, even better, try it in practice.
a stabilizer and a flash help me with this, but I tried my 70-200 vr2 without a stub and puff - it's getting worse., there is a stir., although it makes sense to say having a stub and puff and a monopod. but I will say that it is really not easy to find the right location in the room. and the fact of it and me sausage in my hands., for example, in an apartment, without a "leg"., but in fact - it is for the street !!! here in the very buzz))) but for the premises - depending on what it is., for our apartments) not very, but you can., just especially without the buzz., in the room, of course, you need a smaller focal point. but the glass is cool! you get a lot of pleasure from the quality of the picture. that everything is on target
Is it worth taking the first version just for the second there is not enough money (
I have a D7000 ... Will all three work ??
On the d7000, any AF lens will work. I would not recommend MK1, many bad reviews.
Dear Arkady. I have a lens version (MKII)
As far as I understand, the focal length ring (piston), it is also the focal ring in the “M” mode (should rotate)
The problem is that my lens has up-down travel, but not around the axis. That is, the focal length changes, but the sharpness does not. Locked as if.
“Screwdriver” works fine, in “A” mode ...
What can be not help ..?
Rotation around its axis should only be in M mode, which is set by the ring on the lens itself. If in M mode the ring does not rotate, then most likely a stopper has occurred somewhere and it is necessary to return it to the service. I heard that this happens with the MK1 and MK2 versions.
In the "manual" mode, there is something infused. We'll have to service ...
Thanks for the reply.
I ordered a subject today. after reading)) I see that the difference is not fundamental with the 3rd version. I will use it in conjunction with 7000. Maybe someone has examples of photos of such a bundle?
Took in excellent condition externally MK2. Put on the d7000. Somehow I have a lot of misses from 100 mm. ((((On autofocus. How to accurately check a bunch for bf and ff?
Mistake:
"In 'Full' mode, the lens can focus from 1.4m to infinity, and in 'Limit' mode only from 1.8"
from 2.8
Arkady! I sit and cry - a person offers the First Version for a very good price and swears that everything is ok, but I've read a lot and now I'm afraid to take it ... Ken has very flattering reviews, can you tell me what is so terrible about the first that money cannot be measured?
Threat or is it better to pay for the 3rd of June and not to bathe?
AF in Mark 2 is slower.
The Mark 3 AF is fundamentally different and much faster.
You would write that you will shoot them.
I take off everything - but not sports, so I don’t look at af, I just took 17-35 now and I want to upgrade my 70-210 f4 (which, well, seriously half-day pants brings me joy with its colorfulness, I don’t even know how to leave, after I even look at my 85 1,4 with suspicion)
And for the first one they ask for only 250 euros, but it's dumb, although the person says that everything is fine with him ...
And the third is in the 3s
I'm afraid of soap - it's very unpleasant, especially since as I understood the d700 reacts quite “violently” to glass, for example, Jup37 no longer “plays”, but there was a normal on the crop
Mark 3 is still doing. Being able to do just that, I changed my Tamron 70-200 2.8 for him (constantly smearing it).
Mechanically, it is much more perfect than Mark 2.
If you have enough money, take Mark 3 definitely.
Mark 3 on 2.8 is quite sharp, Mark 4 is sharp as a razor, 70-200 2.8 is better than Mark 3 and worse than Mark 4.
By the way, I also have Nikkor 70-210 and I will not give it to anyone and will not exchange it)) Yes, and I use it more than the monstrous 80-200 2.8. The one just for shooting competitions.
And further. In Mark 3, over time, nothing inside will not burn out and will not close, unlike new telezoom. And this is a very, very serious plus.
there are no questions on the third, but the question remains whether the difference in ergonomics is worth 3 euros or is it because of old age and enlightenment, the picture of 1 is worse? Ken writes that 3 is as sharp as anyone. "At 250mm and f / 1 in the FX corners it's sharper than the 1-200mm VR, and I've never seen any pro sing anything but praise about the 2.8-70 VR."
So that everything rests only against the speed af? And by the way, 1 size smaller :)
I dropped samples into the 70-300 VR thread, look ... I have version 2, very sharp for a portrait ... D700 carcass, no soap ...
That's right. I also voiced my opinion about AF telezoom.
Igor, you do not need him, in a word.
I looked at the branch :) I need 80-200 f2,8, because I have a penchant for portraits and bad light, and it is convenient to quickly “pick up” with a zoom - correct the composition :) and 700mm is not enough for d85, and 70-210 f4 is too dark ...