For the opportunity Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) lens review Many thanks to Vadim Jadan.
Review of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII, piston, trombone)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) is an old school professional high-aperture telephoto zoom lens.
Nikon Nikkor Professional Telephoto Lenses
Since the release of the first professional-focus autofocus lens of the 80-200 / 2.8 class, much water has flowed. During this time, the 70 (80) -200 / 2.8 line developed, resulting in many versions.
A complete and accurate list of all Nikkon Nikkor class 70(80)-(180)200/2.8 autofocus professional lenses:
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8 (MKI) - November 1987 to September 1992, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - from September 1992 to 1997, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) - January 1997 to present, 16 elements in 11 groups (with 3 ED elements)
- Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D Silent Wave Motor (MKIV, AF-S) - from December 1998 to 2003, 18 elements in 14 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon ED AF-S VR-Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8G Vibration Reduction SWM IF (MKV, VRI) from February 2003 to January 2009, 21 elements in 15 groups (with 5 ED elements). There are two colors: black and gray.
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8GII ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat SWM IF (MKVI, VRII) - July 2009 to present, 21 elements in 16 groups (with 7 ED elements).
- Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat (MKVII, E) - from October 2016 to the present, 22 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 1 FL, 1 HRI element). There is a rare subversion Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 2.8E FL ED N VR Nano Crystal Coat Nikon 100th Anniversary (100th Anniversary) - April 2017 to present, features a metallic gray finish with the Nikon 100th Anniversary logo).
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-200mm 1: 2.8 VR S (MK VIII, Z, S-series) - from January 2020 to the present day. Nikon Z mirrorless version, 21 elements in 18 groups (6 ED, 2 ASP, 1 FL, 1 SR)
- Nikon Nikkor Z 70-180mm 1: 2.8 (MK IX,Z) - from June 2023 to the present day. Version for Nikon Z mirrorless cameras, 19 elements in 14 groups (5 ED, 3 ASP, 1 SUPER ED), diagram from Tamron 70-180mm F / 2.8 Di III VXD Model A056
Some are adding new ones to this list. Nikon N AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm 1: 4G ED SWM VR IF Nano Crystal Coat.
ID Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The version presented in this review is the second in a row, it is often called the 'version MKII'so that you can quickly distinguish what is being said. All three first versions MKI, MKII, MKIII have the same optical design. Roughly speaking, all three versions can give a picture indistinguishable from each other (but, in fact, the first version is much worse than the others). Of course, each subsequent version was finalized and received new opportunities. Nikon ED AF version Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII), from this review, was able to transmit the focusing distance to the camera, which allows using 3D Matrix Metering matrix metering with a number of cameras, also D version simplifies flash operation. Of course, each subsequent version improved optically.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D can be used on old film cameras as a lens AI-S type, and on autofocus film cameras, on full-frame cameras and on Nikon cropped cameras. On APS-C format cameras (Nikon DX) EGF lens will match 120-300 mm... Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D has an unusually strong construction, you can immediately feel a well-made thing in your hands.
Rear View Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Auto focus on the lens slow. Focus speed can be increased by using focus stopmounted on the lens. The limiter can switch the lens to one of the modes Full / limit... In the 'Full' mode the lens can focus from 1.4 m to infinity, and in the 'Limit' mode only from 1.8 m. The focusing of the lens is not internal, but due to the successful lens design, the trunk does not lengthen when focusing. If you use the usual protective filter, you may not notice the movement of the front lenses. Also, when zooming, the lens does not change its physical size, which is very convenient - the lens internal zoom. The lens has a Nikon focus system CRC (close range correction - correction at close focusing distances). Also, the lens has a 'M-A' focus mode switching ring, the ring has a special lock-button, to switch the lens to manual focusing, just use the switch on the lens.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: lens zoom ring and manual focus ring are aligned, which is why the lens is often called 'single ring'. The focus ring rotates approximately 45 degrees in manual focus mode. The focusing ring is simply huge, it is very convenient to focus on the focus. The lens has a focusing distance scale, but does not have a DOF scale. In auto focus mode, the focus ring rotates freely and does not affect the focusing process.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) with hood on the ZK
Important: the lens uses an unusual method of changing the focal length, the so-called piston method (also called 'push pull'). To change the focal length, you just need to pull the 'piston' towards you or away from you. Moreover, the maximum focal length is available when the piston is in the closest position to the camera, and the minimum when the piston is as far from the camera as possible. This 'backwards' method takes some getting used to. When transporting the lens, the piston can spontaneously change the focal length under its own weight. It is very pleasant that when changing the focal length, as well as when focusing, the back lens remains motionless.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
It's important: auto focus with this lens is available only when using him on cameras with built-in motor focusing.
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras with a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will focus automatically:
- D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs
- D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6
- Df
- D50, D70, D70s, D80, D90
- D7000, D7100, D7200,D7500
- D100, D200, D300, D300s,D500
- D600, D610, D750, D780
- D700, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850
- Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 ProS3 Pro UVIR, S5 ProIS Pro
- Kodak DCS PRO 14n, DCS Pro SLR/n
Exact list Nikon DSLR cameras without a built-in focus motor, on which this lens will not focus automatically:
Only auto focus and sound confirmation of focus will not work with these cameras, all other important functions, such as automatic exposure metering and automatic iris control, will work well.
You will find a lot of useful information on the types of cameras and lenses Nikon here.
Enlightenment Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
Important: the lens has an aperture control ring. In order for the lens to start working normally on modern CZKs, you need to set the f / 22 value on the lens and snap a special switch near the aperture control ring. After such a manipulation, the aperture can be controlled from the camera, in more detail in the section on Non-G type lens.
Nikon DX AF-S Nikkor 55-200mm 1: 4-5.6G ED VR IF and Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII)
The lens has a maximum aperture of F / 2.8, which is available over the entire range of focal lengths. Given the large focal length of the lens, you need to remember about the effect of the grease at slow shutter speeds. More details in the section on how take off.
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2) with mounted hood for transportation
Image quality
On Nikon DX cameras, the lens is sharp already at F / 2.8 over the entire range of focal lengths, except 200 mm. At 200mm it is advisable to cover the diaphragm. The lens gives excellent contrast, has a slight distortion. Aberrations are present, but very slight. It’s also funny that the 200mm lens tightens the background a lot, it seems that the pictures are similar to Soviet helioswho love the background twist very much. When shooting at F / 4, the lens becomes very sharp :).
On the open aperture Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) very noticeably twists the background
In general, the image quality is excellent. The bokeh deserves special attention, which is quite good at open apertures. It's a pity, but in spite of the 9-blade diaphragm, you can see the 'nuts' on the covered diaphragms in the blur zone. Image quality can be improved by using a lens hood such as the native HB-7.
You can find more examples of photos on this lens in the reviews. Fujifilm FinePix S2 Pro и Nikon D300s.
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Personal experience
Now you will not meet modern lenses with a piston design, and this is quite convenient, since the focus ring is immediately a zoom ring. The lens lacks an image stabilizer, at 200mm the picture twitches strongly in the viewfinder, and excerpt when shooting should be at least 1 \ 200s. I shot on a cloudy day, and at ISO 200, the f / 2.8 aperture barely made it possible to shoot at 1 \ 200s, so I want to note that f / 2.8 is not a panacea. If you need a real aperture, then fast fixes can come to the rescue. In principle, a single 80mm high-aperture prime can handle the tasks of the heavy Nikon ED AF Nikkor 200-1mm 2.8: 135D (MKII). 135mm is just the middle between 80-200mm, (200 + 80) \\ 2 = 140.
Crop 1 to 1, without processing, only added shooting parameters (one of the readers asked the moon)
Newer model Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKIII) has exactly the same optical design as the MKII and MKI, so you don't have to be afraid and save money using the MKII or MKI, although the MKIII has a faster focusing system and a tripod socket, and not everyone will be comfortable using the 'trombone'. The lens of the 80-200 \ 2.8 class most often acts as a good portrait lens, professional wedding photographers are very fond of this range, and the high-aperture zoom 80-200 itself is included in the top three of the classic set 14 (16) -24 (28), 24 (28) -70 ( 80), 70 (80) -200. A good alternative to the lenses of the 80-200 \ 2.8 series can serve as an old high-quality Nikon 70-210mm f / 4 AF. Also, for inexpensive, you can find old versions of similar lenses from third-party manufacturers: Sigma 70-200mm 1: 2.8 APO EX HSM, Tokina AT-X AF SD 80-200mm 1: 2.8, Tamron SP AF LD 70-210mm 1: 2.8 67DN, Tokina AT-X PRO 80-200mm 1: 2.8 , Sigma AF Zoom APO 70-210mm 1: 2.8 etc.
Key Features of Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MK2)
Conclusions
Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D (MKII) - legendary lenswhich after many years can please with its excellent picture. I recommend for full-frame cameras.
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Incidentally, the lens MK 1,2,3. factory defects are encountered (if I may say so), namely, back-focus at a focal length of 135-200 mm and is rarely treated by adjustment.
good review, thanks
Thank you, we will know.
I wonder why you put a lens designed for photographic film on a digital and now talk about a factory marriage as BF? Put on 70-200 / 2,8 - there is no BF or FF in sight, because it is sharpened for a digital. All BF and FF are the sides of the matrix, believe it or not, it is the same as HA. I have been shooting for more than 20 years - both on film and on a slide - I have not noticed anything like this !!!
I would not want to get involved in an argument here - but why do the sides of the matrix affect the focusing accuracy in the center of the frame?
What does the matrix have to do with it, if the phase focusing module is responsible for focusing (we don’t take into account the matrix's Konirast in live view mode)
The back-front focus problem, in addition to the matrix - or rather, the mirror shift, also depends on the sensor chip inside - that is why most lenses are treated by reprogramming, and not by shifting the optical elements. The mirror displacement is several times less frequent than the erroneous values of the lens chip.
I’m wondering why my Nikon 50 1.4G digital lens suffers from shift focus, you can also see the matrix twists when the aperture is clamped :-)
If not kidding, then this is the side of the lens during assembly or impact, one of the lenses has shifted at an angle. Bring glass to service
Absolutely to the point, from 135mm to 200, the MK1 version has a focus problem!
Arkady, this is professional as always!
It's nice to read, at one time it was similar to a two-ring one, an excellent version of a reporting lens with a price-quality ratio.
Thanks for the review!
I asked the moon, thanks!
Is Arkady worth chasing the two ring version if it is 30% more expensive than the single ring version?
Yes, sometimes it’s worth it.
I think if you don't shoot sports, etc. then you shouldn't overpay for MK3 ...
S5 pro from the first frame of the lens from the review can not be called a modern camera
Fixed
He filmed a report and literally ran into the problem of leaving AF. Filmed on FX. I think you just need to adjust the back focus in the camera. Having checked on 80mm and 200mm and put the middle one closer to 200mm. On the other hand, at 200mm and f / 4 it’s not out of focus, but rather gently draws.
By the way, there is an error in the description of the dedicated 80-200. The one that is still being produced. He is not just “D”, but “D ED” = Nikkor AF80-200 / 2.8D ED
From a rearrangement of terms, the sum does not change. Especially on the lens itself it is written exactly like this Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D
Hello. I really need advice .. I want to take either Nikkor 70-300mm f / 4.5-5.6G ED VR AF-S or Nikon AF Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8 MKI ED (first version) .. to the second I tend more, somehow in the soul he is. prices category is approximately the same, teaches that the second bu. what do you advise? I really want to know the opinion ... photos as portraits ... and everything else. since you need a good zoom and cool bokeh. in advance, ATP.
For the price of 70-300VR you can take a used II version 80-200 with D. Stub is certainly a necessary thing on such focal lengths, but it seems to me that these are lenses for completely different tasks. 70-300 is more to shoot birds, and 80-200 for portraits. By the way, nobody canceled the tripod. I also chose and took 80-200, which I do not regret a bit. This is a truly sturdy and reliable construction with a high-quality picture. Precisely with high quality, without ghosting along the contours, and almost complete absence of CA. Manual focusing is just as easy, the ring rotates smoothly with little effort, but on my D80 the screwdriver does a good job, so I use manual focus mainly for "playing around".
Thank you very much for your reply! I think that 80-200 without a stub is what you need! and a tripod, yes, I think to get it over time! Thanks again for such an open answer! good luck to you!
I have a Nikon D700. Can I crawl Nikkor 80-200mm 1: 2.8D?
Yes, you can.
Thanks Do you know how the Nikon D700 camera sticks with a lens?
Just like with his brother - https://radojuva.com.ua/2013/01/obzor-nikon-af-80-200mm-2-8-d-ed-mk3/ (there is a shot on d700)
Nice photo ! Well, yes! Thanks
Tell me how to put this lens with a camera on a tripod. Is there a special mount for a single-ring.
Hello, please tell me in which case the moon may not work, I have exactly the same lens, I set all the settings as you have here. Recently acquired it, maybe I'm doing something wrong? A blurry stain is obtained.
Perform manual focus. The picture in the overview crop frame.
Thanks, I will try.
Hello Arkady !!! I really like your site, perhaps the only one where everything is on the case and clearly !!! Thank you very much !!! I would like to ask your opinion and articles on Tamron 200-500 and Nikon 80-400 and another question, Is it possible to use full-frame glass on a crop camera, in this case, the D7000, and how will this affect the picture ???? Thanks !!!
Yes you can. Just the viewing angle will be narrower, details are here https://radojuva.com.ua/2011/05/size-of-matrica/
Good afternoon!
Arkady tell me please:
You wrote that when zooming the lens does not change its size, but does the rear lens (lens group) move on the lens? those. Does the ramming ram take 80-200 dust?
In MKIII you drew attention to this. here - no.
because 70-210 4,0-5,6 I met with sooooo much dust inside.
MKIII is more expensive than this in a review of 200+ on ibei ..
It is logical that if they have the same optical schemes, then it does not move). Added information to the review.
There is this lens in the first version. Close range focusing class. Up to 10 meters. To infinity - one continuous coma with aberrations. f8, exposure 1 \ 2000 sec. It is problematic to focus manually at infinity - there is no hard stop.
Good afternoon! I wanted to know what is the difference between MK-II and MK-I ??? The price difference is significant ... is it worth taking the MK-II if the MK-I is cheaper? Thanks in advance!
The second version gives the camera the distance to the object. Helps when using TTL flash. I would take the second version, I would not look at the first. Moreover, the glasses of the first series are already completely "retirement" age.
Please tell me how EXTERNALLY differs MK1 from MK2
Focus limiter. In MK1, it is a three-stage in the form of a ring, in MK2, such as in the photo in the review.
Hello! Please tell me how this lens will behave with the D90? maybe someone used. Thank you in advance!
I have a friend who used 80-200 / 2.8 MKI and MKII on D90 - delighted with such a bundle
The other day I bought myself an 90-80 MKII on the D200 - I am delighted :) The only thing is that chromatite is noticeable at the long end at f2.8, but if you close the diaphragm, everything is fine. Focuses very quickly, very sharp, contrasting and remarkably lathers the background
Michael, can you show a couple of originals? I'm going to buy and would love to see a real picture. I collect more information http://vk.com/davydchuk
The single ring 80-200 / 2.8 is a typical push-pull, not a trombone. Trombone 35-70 / 2.8D.
Good afternoon!
And please tell me how to distinguish MK1 from MK2? I want to drag this lens from ebay, but I'm afraid to make a mistake in the versions of this glass.
bought today MK2, in Ukraine, for $ 450. Condition - a completely new lens, when I picked it up - I thought that I was the first to hold it in my hands :) Look in your country - it will be easier to check.
The answer was a little higher. Thanks!!!
Arkady, is it advisable now to take the MKI 80-200 / 2.8? Or look for a newer MKII / MKII?
Good day. Please tell me, is it impossible to install a hood on the MKI? I did not find the corresponding protrusions for fixing it ???
You can screw the hood into the filter thread, if not included, look on the internet, there are universal metal hoods, about $ 10 will cost 77mm
Question, on the second version, can I put on a hood with a third? petal. Well, I really like her.
And the question is two:
80-200 mk 2
or sigma 50-150 (without stub)
same price.
I know about focal. about corners too. wedding shooting. rather slow.
Nikon D7000 Camera
thank you in advance!
On the second question, it's better to make the choice yourself :) On my own behalf, I will say that MK2 is definitely larger, heavier than Sigma 50-150. Together with FinePix S5 Pro, it definitely outweighs MK2 :). Push-pull zoom is convenient. A little annoying only the knock when you hang the camera down with the lens, after shooting at foci other than 80 mm - spontaneous zoom under its own weight :). Autofocus is good for unhurried shooting, there are almost no misses. My opinion is definitely MK2, with an equal price and good condition. Again, this glass will serve and please for years, when switching to full frame.