answers: 144

  1. Kuwyat
    02.05.2016

    Hello Arkady. To begin with, thank you for your work, for this whole block. I have a question. Suppose there is a fixed lens with a focal length of 50mm. There is a scale for the focusing distance from infinity to 0,7m. Rotating it to 0,7, the lens moves forward a little and it turns out that its focal length grows, that is, no longer 50mm, but more?

    Reply

    • anonym
      02.05.2016

      Well, or vice versa, at infinity less than 50mm, approaching 0,7 it approaches 50

      Reply

    • Lynx
      02.05.2016

      Depends on the optical design of the lens; on some lenses, the angle of view changes

      Reply

    • Alex
      06.08.2020

      If this is observed visually, this focus “breathes”, this does not happen on high-quality lenses.

      Reply

  2. Anton
    07.10.2016

    50mm D fell to the floor with the front plane and now there is no infinity. Now the scale on the lens does not correspond to reality, if on a scale of 6 meters, then in reality about 3. Neither the quality of the pictures nor anything else has been affected. Is it possible to correct the consequences of the fall yourself, is it real without contacting the service? I can not find where to read about it.

    Reply

  3. Alexander Smolko
    23.09.2017

    “The hyperfocal distance has one feature - if you set the focus of the lens not to infinity, but to the hyperfocal distance, then you can get the maximum depth of field from a certain value in the foreground to infinity. This is a very important property when photographing landscapes and more. ”

    But how to do it? How to set focus to hyperfocal distance?

    Reply

    • anonym
      21.03.2019

      For example, focus on any object located from hyperfocal distance to infinity. It is not necessary to focus on the hyperfocal, because all objects from the hyperfocal to infinity will be in focus.

      Reply

      • Valery A.
        21.03.2019

        In the program “DOF calculator” ask in advance at what focal point and with what apertures the HFR begins.

        Reply

  4. anonym
    10.01.2019

    The explanations are very confusing and often incorrect.

    Reply

  5. Alexander
    22.03.2019

    Good afternoon friends. The lens Mir24N 35 mm was purchased from hands. It fits perfectly on my Nikon D80, but alas, during the purchase, I did not notice one feature. There is no infinity at all on the open hole. The maximum focusing distance is 15 meters. If the hole is covered up to 8 and above, then infinity appears. Tell me is it ok? Or marriage? And is it possible to adjust the lens on your own, or in Kiev by some master.

    Reply

    • Michael
      22.03.2019

      Not normal, you can align, as I will not tell.

      Reply

    • Dmitry
      22.03.2019

      Yes, an infinity, a famous sore of shovels.
      You can fix it yourself, usually you need to loosen the bolts holding the focuser's outer ring by the helicoid, move it a couple of mm in the desired direction, and fix it again. Look on YouTube for a video of disassembling such a lens.

      Reply

    • Andrei
      09.10.2019

      Three days ago I became the owner of MIR24N 35 2. On d300s the same story. I think that this is his normal work with an open aperture. Look at the lens at the FLOW scale at aperture 2, as described in this article above. Normal (more or less) sharpness appears at an aperture of 4. Compared with my 17-70 sigma at 5,6 holes and at a focal length of 35 - the pictures are difficult to distinguish. I have focus confirmation on the d300s, and at open aperture, especially at close range, it is very difficult to catch focus. And if you shoot a portrait with your head turned a little, you can get: - that one eye is in focus, and the other is in soap. Check out the photos on the Internet with these lenses. At open apertures, only a small part of the frame is sharp. The impression from the lens is not unambiguous. Glass for art photos (snowflakes, flowers, leaves will have a blurred background and bokeh (beautiful :)), but not suitable for portraits. In any case, at KROP.

      Reply

      • Roman
        09.10.2019

        What do you mean by “portrait”? A full-length portrait is also a portrait. And a 50 mm focal length for a full-length belt is quite suitable, and on a crop it will be exactly 50.

        Here you have 35 / 1.4, drawn up to two in full frame: https://www.flickr.com/photos/152693076@N06/48862115166/in/pool-2064616@N24/

        Typical wedding plot, typical focal. Each lens has its own tasks.

        Reply

      • Andrei
        09.10.2019

        So I specifically wrote about Mir24, and not about focal ones for portraits. And I meant that MIR24 35mm 2, at full frame, may be behaving differently.

        Reply

      • Roman
        09.10.2019

        Well, take 35 / 1.8 for the test, hold it to 2.0 and see how it will behave. The physics is the same, the depth of field is the same, I don’t think that in this respect, Mir24 is somehow different from any other lenses with the same focal and aperture.

        What you call “soap” is the lens's out-of-focus area. ANY high-aperture lens. And how do people in full frame shoot portraits at 50 / 1.2? Tighten the diaphragm for the task - that's all. Or position your subject so that all important parts of the frame are sharp. Focus on the eyes.

        On a full frame, the DOF will be less with equivalent framing, so it will be harder to shoot, but people can do it. 2.0 - 2.2, well 2.8 as a last resort.

        Reply

  6. Still
    08.01.2020

    And where to find out how the diaphragm affects the depth of field? It is to understand the physics of the process. With addiction it’s understandable.

    Reply

  7. Peter Sh.
    28.02.2020

    For fans to read about spherical horses in a vacuum. Those. about shooting black and white stripes and squares on the wall, with subsequent exposition of the results, they say which lens is the best.

    Here, inquire. Depression of the depth of field zone. In the most visual way. That is why all these horses in a vacuum for a simple layman mean nothing.

    Reply

  8. Peter Sh.
    28.02.2020

    Attempt two

    Reply

  9. Peter Sh.
    28.02.2020

    ..

    Reply

    • Arkady Shapoval
      28.02.2020

      Thank you

      Reply

  10. Peter Sh.
    28.02.2020

    Immediately, that would not get up twice. The spread in sharpness among the top professional lenses.
    Again, the topic of horses in a vacuum and which lens is the most zachotny.

    Reply

  11. Michael
    02.03.2020

    There is a very significant inaccuracy in the definition of the concept itself. Not a mistake, because the very meaning of the relationship between depth of field and hyperfocal distance (GR) is quite definite. GR is a point, focusing on which, we get the maximum depth of field. And it is not at all necessary, for this, the lens must be set to infinity. And here, just, the FR of the lens directly affects. For what reasons the author indicates that the FR can be ignored or neglected is not clear. For GR is the ratio of the square of the FR of the lens to the product of the relative aperture, multiplied by the value of the allowable scattering circle. For 35 mm film, this value is the same - 0,03 mm, and it can be considered constant and used to determine the GR with FX cameras, albeit with the caveat for the number of pixels. For other cameras there are special tables that allow you to use the numbers indicated in them in calculations. (Nr, http://www.dofmaster.com/digital_coc.html).

    Reply

  12. Vladimir Lvov
    04.02.2021

    Hello Arkady!
    I quote you: "The longer the lens is, the greater its hyperfocal distance." It's a lie! The longer the lens is, the further the hyperfocal distance begins, the shorter it will be in relation to the lens with a shorter focal length. The hyperfocal distance is not the value in meters from which it starts, it is the real distance that starts after the mark. And if, conditionally, for a 135 mm long-focus fixture at F / 8 it starts from a distance of about 125-130 meters, then for some, for example. Helios-44-2 58mm / 2.0 at f / 8, this distance starts from 23 meters. So for Helios with 58 mm, this distance, Hyperfocal Distance, will be greater than that of a 135 mm fixture.

    Reply

    • Victor
      04.02.2021

      Dear Vladimir, please read again the elementary definition of hyperfocal distance, just carefully, and you will understand that there is no mistake in Arkady's text.

      Reply

      • Vladimir Lvov
        04.02.2021

        And what to read, I quoted literally (COPY-INSERTED) what is written there. Or are you also claiming that the longer the focal length, the greater the Hyperfocal distance will be? Or how?

        Reply

      • Victor
        04.02.2021

        >> Or are you also saying that the longer the focal length, the greater the Hyperfocal distance will be?

        Exactly so, with the same relative aperture of the lenses.

        Reply

      • Vladimir Lvov
        04.02.2021

        Here ... I until today believed that the Hyperfocal distance is the distance at which everything is sharp when focusing to infinity, ie: the depth of sharp space when focusing to infinity. It turns out that the Hyperfocal distance is the border between the zone of sharpness and blur when focusing at infinity?

        Reply

      • Victor
        04.02.2021

        Having read more carefully the definition on the Radozhiv website, a couple of inaccuracies were also found in it.

        Arkady gives the following definition of hyperfocal:

        "Hyperfocal distance is the minimum distance from which objects in the picture become sharp when the lens is focused at infinity."

        The correct definition would be:

        “The hyperfocal distance is the focusing distance at which the DOF will be maximized, from HALF of this distance to infinity”

        Reply

    • Seladir
      04.02.2021

      You approached this issue in a peculiar way, but this does not mean that your interpretation is the only correct one. Most people are used to defining it differently, that is, to consider the hyperfocal distance the closest focusing distance at which there will already be acceptable sharpness at infinity.
      For some reason, you decided to define it as a segment between the closest focusing distance with sharpness at infinity and… it looks like infinity.
      First, even purely mathematically, it will not be possible to say which lens has a greater hyperfocal distance according to your interpretation. Since in both cases there will be infinity.
      Secondly, such a definition is a horse in a vacuum and does not solve practical problems. A practical task is usually to know the closest focusing distance to the hyperfocal, so that the near depth of field limit is as close as possible.

      Reply

  13. Seladir
    04.02.2021

    What interests me about hyperfocal distance and depth of field is the interpretation of the scatter spot for different cameras. All calculators I met, for example, famously take one number for all 1.6x cropped cameras, another number for a full frame. But the physics of the phenomenon suggests that the size of the matrix does not affect anything, but the size of the pixel - yes. And if for 10 years such a rough approach still worked, plus or minus, now it has not: Canon 10D will have a much larger pixel than Canon 5Ds. This means that the hyperfocal distance will come earlier, although the calculator will say the opposite.
    I really want to take and create, for example, a more correct calculator in the form of an Android application. But maybe I'm wrong about something? And the subjectivity of the concept of acceptable sharpness leads to the fact that it is not clear at all what to take as the size of the scattering spot.

    Reply

    • BB
      04.02.2021

      A couple of years ago I came across online calculators based on pixel sizes. But you correctly noticed about the subjectivity of the concept of blur.

      Reply

  14. B. R. P.
    04.02.2021
  15. Arkady Shapoval
    12.02.2021

    Thank you, I will study

    Reply

  16. Arkady Shapoval
    12.02.2021

    Thanks, I corrected the definition. It's strange that you still use my site

    Reply

    • Victor
      12.02.2021

      “Hyperfocal distance is the distance from which all objects in the picture are sharp enough for a lens at infinity.” This definition is incorrect.

      Why - I wrote a few posts above.

      Reply

      • Arkady Shapoval
        12.02.2021

        I hope you don't mind if I leave your description? Any other comments found are also welcome. Perhaps you are not happy with my presentation, but I hope you understand that this site is just a simple blog, and not a serious photo publication. But there is only one way - to do everything efficiently and correctly, correct mistakes and learn from those who are wiser and smarter.

        Reply

      • Victor
        12.02.2021

        I don't want to be misunderstood, I read, read and will read articles on your site, often getting valuable information from them, sometimes even unique, but I would like the site content to reflect reality as much as possible, in case a beginner reads it :) Of course, you have the right to leave the definition as you see fit.

        Reply

      • Arkady Shapoval
        12.02.2021

        I changed. Thank. Radozhiva has many problems. One of them: now I know a little more than before, in 2008, when I started running this site. And there is nothing more difficult - to redo, rewrite the material. And to write from scratch - now there is no desire, then time. This applies very much to old reviews of various “boring” lenses. In those days, I took a lot of liberties. Now I just physically can't get to those reviews.

        Reply

  17. Ltd
    24.05.2022

    Thank you, very helpful for a beginner

    Reply

  18. Load more comments ...

Reply

 

 

Top
mobility. computer