Nikon is famous for not changing the mount of its SLR cameras since 1961. All lenses released since 1961 (sometimes earlier) mechanically compatible with all Nikon cameras, including with modern Nikon digital SLR cameras.
Original (NON-AI, without AI conversion) lens Nikon Nikkor-SC Auto 1: 1.4 f = 50mm on the camera Nikon D40x. On such cameras, such old lenses are installed without alteration. Nikon D40x and similar cameras listed in this article do not have a diaphragm rheostat and use a “recessed” aperture limit lever, making it easy to use any old Nikon F mount lenses on them.
All old mirrored lenses with Nikon F mount are divided into:
- NON-AI or PRE-AI - lenses do not know how to transmit the aperture value to the camera, metering exposure difficult with them. This type can be converted to AI type. You can use here such a trick for automatic metering exposure on covered diaphragms.
- AI (Automatic Indexing - automatic reading) - such lenses are able to transmit the aperture value to the camera.
- AI-S (Automatic Indexing Shutter - automatic reading for excerpts) - improved, more linear aperture control circuit for the correct selection of the aperture / shutter exposure pair.
- AI-P (just 'P', Automatic Indexing with micro Processor - automatic reading and control using a micro-processor) is the latest development of classic lenses without autofocus. More details about 'AI-P' Read here.
There is practically no difference between AI, AI-S when working at modern central control centers. AI-S lenses have a strictly linear dependence of the aperture closing stage on the deflection of the aperture jumper. Also, AI-S lenses have a special notch next to the mount and usually have an orange minimum aperture mark. All lenses marked AF, D are also AI-S compatible.
Original (not converted) Nikon Nikkor-SC Auto 1: 1.4 f = 50mm and TOP film Nikon F6 Camera. Due to the diaphragm rheostat, this original lens cannot be mounted on the camera without additional alteration of the lens or modification of the camera.
All Pre-AI (Non-AI), AI, AI-S, AI converted lenses have a blinking aperture. This means that when the lens is attached to the camera, the aperture opens fully. The aperture will close to the set value only when the shutter is released. The camera will automatically close and open the iris when you press the shutter button. The mechanism for closing the diaphragm is realized through the "pusher" and "jump rope". All modern Nikon lenses have the same design (except for specific Nikon E).
Read aperture value
How does the camera read the set aperture value on the lens? It's very simple - older Nikon cameras are equipped with a special ring with a protrusion near the camera mount. The protrusion is shown in the image below. Special protrusion on the lens when rotating the aperture ring on AI, AI-S, Non-g the lens clings to a protrusion on the camera and rotates it, transmitting the aperture value to the camera.
Rheostat for reading aperture value for Ai, AI-S, Non-G, Non-E lenses
The problem with installing old PRE-AI lenses on modern CZK
Old PRE-AI lenses abut the diaphragm ring against the protrusion of the diaphragm rheostat near the camera mount. Because of this, older PRE-AI lenses cannot be mounted on cameras that can read aperture value.
Here is the exact list of cameras on which it is not possible to mount PRE-AI lenses due to the protrusion of the rheostat:
D200, D300, D300s, D500, D600, D610, D700, D750, D780, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850, D7000, D7100, D7200, D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs, D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6 + S5 Pro, IS Pro.
Nikon Df can hide the rheostat, which is why there are no installation problems.
A lug for transferring the aperture value on the lens, which engages with the aperture rheostat on the camera. Shown using an example lens Nikon AF Nikkor 28-70mm 1: 3.5-4.5D
Aperture Lever EE
Also old PRE-AI lenses cannot be installed on cameras
Nikon D50, D70, D70s, D80, D90, D100 + Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 Pro, S3 Pro UVIR + Kodak DCS PRO 14n (and its modifications) and Kodak DCS Pro SLR / n (and its modifications) (this is an accurate list)
из-за lever of the extreme position of the diaphragm. The lever is responsible for working with autofocus lenses that have an aperture control ring. These lenses are called Non-g. Below is shown such a lens with a protrusion that is combined with the lever of the extreme position of the diaphragm.
Lug for reading the extreme position of the aperture ring on the lens Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm 1: 1.8Dwhich is a NON-G type lens, that is, one that has an aperture control ring.
For automatic iris control, such cameras need to know for sure that the aperture control ring is set to the extreme position (maximum F number). If this is not done, then the camera display will show error message 'FEE' (the aperture ring is not set to the correct position). When the diaphragm ring rotates to its extreme position, this lever moves counterclockwise. For cameras with a diaphragm rheostat, such a lever is not required, since the rheostat itself takes over its function. The lever EE for reading the extreme position of the diaphragm ring is shown in the figure below.
Lever EE for reading the end position of the diaphragm ring, the lever moves, but does not "sink"
And here are the cameras
Nikon D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D3200, D3300, D3400, D3500, D5000, D5100, D5200, D5300, D5500, D5600, D7500 + mirrorless cameras Nikon z5Nikon Z6 Z6 IINikon Z7 Z7 II, Nikon z50, Zfc using the original Nikon FTZ adapter
have a different lever design EE... The lever is 'recessed' into the body of the camera rather than displaced, so the lever does not interfere with the aperture ring protrusions of PRE-AI lenses.
EE lever on low-end Nikon cameras. When the lens is mounted, it “retracts” and does not interfere with the installation of any lenses with Nikon F mount
Some cameras, such as Nikon D3400 и D3500 deprived of this lever at all. On these cameras, you can easily install all PRE-AI lenses.
To summarize, PRE-AI lenses cannot be mounted on cameras:
D200, D300, D300s, D500, D600, D610, D700, D750, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850, D7000, D7100, D7200, D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs, D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6, D50, D70, D70s, D80, D90 + Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 Pro, S3 Pro UVIR, S5 Pro, IS Pro + Kodak DCS PRO 14n (and its modifications) and Kodak DCS Pro SLR / n (and its modifications)
PRE-AI lenses are easy to mount on cameras:
Nikon D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D3200, D3300, D3400, D3500, D5000, D5100, D5200, D5300, D5500, D5600, Df, D7500 + mirrorless cameras Nikon z5Nikon Z6 Z6 IINikon Z7 Z7 II, Nikon z50 Zfc using the original Nikon FTZ adapter
PRE-AI lenses are easy to convert to AI, usually for this part of the aperture ring is ground off and a protrusion for the rheostat is added.
Due to the lack of a diaphragm rheostat gauging exposure not available with cameras:
Nikon D40, D40x, D50, D60, D70, D70s, D80, D90, D3000, D3100, D3200, D3300, D3400, D3500, D5000, D5100, D5200, D5300, D5500, D5600, D100, D7500 + Fujifilm FinePix S1 Pro, S2 Pro, S3 Pro, S3 Pro UVIR + Kodak DCS PRO 14n (and its modifications) and Kodak DCS Pro SLR / n (and its modifications). But with models D5200, D5300, D5500, D5600, D3500 can be used here's a life hack.
Measurement exposure with old lenses is only available on cameras that have a diaphragm rheostat:
D200, D300, D300s, D500, D600, D610, D700, D750, D780, D800,D800E, D810, D810a, D850, D7000, D7100, D7200, D1, D1h, D1x, D2x, D2xs, D2h, D2hs, D3, D3x, D3s, D4, D4s, D5, D6, Df+ S5 Pro, IS Pro + mirrorless cameras Nikon z5Nikon Z6 Z6 IINikon Z7 Z7 II, Nikon z50, Zfc using the original Nikon FTZ adapter (?)
Fast solution for compatibility
How to use old Nikon lenses on modern DSLRs and system cameras, see 'Using old lenses'.
What are old lenses for, if you have modern autofocus?
Old manual lenses give quite adequate image quality. Some of them are superior to their modern autofocus counterparts. For some lenses, there are simply no autofocus counterparts. For example, there is no analogue for Nikon 50mm f / 1.2 AI-s Nikkor MF with the same aperture. Moreover, old lenses usually cost much less than their modern counterparts. Old manual lenses got their second life after the boom on the CZK camera.
If it’s interesting to read more about modern lenses and their differences, I advise you to look into my article The difference between modern Nikon lenses, as well as interesting observations can be found in the article Aperture and video on the Nikon CZK и An interesting property of the diaphragm on the Nikon CZK.
Results
Nikon has a lot of experience in creating lenses and a very large fleet of old high-quality optics, which can be purchased for little money and get an excellent image result.
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Help decide on two options for the D7100:
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f / 1.8 Ai
Nikon Nikkor 50mm f / 1.4 Ai
Chromatic is supposedly noticeable at 1.4, and there are allegedly difficulties with focusing on the D7100.
The price is about equal, 1.8 looks "newer".
What difficulties can be expected from 1.4 on a crop?
Ken Rockwell in the review advises taking 1.8.
1.4 is really hard to work with.
50 / 1,8 is a more balanced option, it is most often advised
Thanks for the reply.
Please help me if the lens nikkor135mm-Q Auto 1: 2.8 will fit
On the nikon D850?
Will not fit, this is a NON-AI lens. It should be improved. Usually they are all already finished (the skirt is cut off), ask the seller or where you are going to get it.
Gods, why didn't Nikon get caught up in all this? And how much persistence did it take to preserve one bayonet for half a century with all these bells and whistles? : D
Pentax is even harder
What is this? This is the first time I've heard this
All the same compatibility, especially with the latest lenses. For example, take the latest HD PENTAX-DA * 1: 2.8 16-50mm ED PLM AW with KAF4 mount, electromagnetic diaphragm control and PLM motor. Only cameras on the KAF4 can work properly with this lens. Do you know how many cameras there are? Two: PENTAX K-70 and K3 M3, a couple more will require a software update (K-1, for which it is not particularly suitable and only the still cropped K-S2, K-3 II, K-S1).
Guys tell me what kind of bayonet?
Minolta A
about the iron eyelet (on the diaphragm ring), no one wrote anything, why is it?
https://radojuva.com/2020/01/nikon-rabbit-ear/
Hello, I'm completely confused, tell a newbie, don't refuse)) will exposure metering work on d90 when Nikon 105 2.5 ai-s is installed? And in general, is it installed?
Metering will not work.
But you can just use everything you have to do in manual mode ?!
Yes.
Hello Arkady!
What Nikon cameras will the Nikkor 28-85mm f / 3.5-4.5 Ai-S lens work on?
good afternoon, on all digital SLR and mirrorless
And do you advise buying it, or is it better to look at the manual ones for others?
there is not much sense in manual zoom. Indicate the budget, goals and for which camera - then there will be advice.
On Nikon D200, I just wanted to try with old glasses, with their features in the picture. All the same, old glasses convey more natural colors. For example, the nikon 28mm f / 2.8 ai-s is praised. And you ?
Budget - $ 150
Fixes are often good. Zooms are not that good.
Thanks Arkady.
Now I looked at the review and yours on the fix, as well as reviews, examples of photos on the lens-club.
I will look for inexpensive fixes, there are really great fixes.
Maybe the question is off topic. But I ask for some advice. It is necessary to attach a Nikon lens (old fix MIR 24) to bellows with a Kenon FD mount. What specific adapter is needed? Who will help?
bonjour, j'ai un boitier D80 avec plusieurs objectifs et je voudrais acheter le dernier l'hybride Nikon Zfc .
Puis-je utiliser mes anciens objectifs sur le Zfc ?
Goods.
Kind regards.
Si vos objectifs n'ont pas de moteur integré, vous ne pourrez pas le faire.
Hello.
I bought a Nikon 35-70mm f / 3.3-4.5 AI-S lens. As the reviews say, it has a maximum aperture of f/3.3 at 35mm, f/3.8 at 50mm, f/4.5 at 70mm. Camera Nikon D810, it has a setting “Lens without CPU”, i.e. if you specify the focal length and maximum aperture of a manual lens, then these parameters will be transmitted to the camera, including all aperture changes (determined by its shift from the maximum value). It turns out that for this lens I need to set 3 such settings in the camera for focal lengths 35, 50 and 70mm. And what for each of them to set the maximum aperture? It would seem as they write in the reviews, i.e. f/3.3, f/3.8, f/4.5, respectively. But then the setting of the lens aperture wheel itself is lost, i.e. if it has a maximum aperture value of f/3.3, and in the camera it is defined as something else (f/3.8 or f/4.5), then subsequent aperture values in the camera will differ from those on the lens. Is this how it should be, or is it still necessary to set one maximum aperture of f / 3 in the camera for each of the 3.3 focal lengths? If the aperture needs to be set as they say in the reviews, then the camera has f / 3.3 and f / 4.5 values, but not f / 3.8, there are only f / 3.5 and f / 4. Which then is better to set instead of f / 3.8?
You yourself are already confused. Nikon D810 should measure exposure without additional settings. Read carefully above about the EE lever.
Hello. There is a link to this article titled “What is ISO Lo1 on Nikon cameras”.
Good afternoon!
When working with non-ai, it is a pity that the button for viewing the depth of field, which closes the aperture, simultaneously activates the ae-lock exposure at the open one. An option to turn off this blocking would be convenient.