Overview of Jupiter-36V 250mm F3.5

Many thanks for the opportunity to review the Jupiter-36V lens Ilya.

Jupiter-36V 250 3.5 Overview

Jupiter-36V 250 3.5 Overview

Jupiter-36 250mm F3.5 - just a huge, very heavy and unusual lens from medium format cameras. It is unfortunate that the yard is already 2012, and there are no affordable digital medium format cameras and backs. Therefore, the full potential of Jupiter-36V will be revealed only in a few years, when there will be relatively cheap rentreformatnye cameras and the interest and need for high-quality lenses.

View of the lens Jupiter-36V from different sides

View of the lens Jupiter-36V and its aperture

TTX of the Jupiter-36V lens
Focal length: 250 mm
Optical design: 4 elements in 3 groups (Sonnar type circuit)
Diaphragm: F3.5-F16
MDF: 3.5cm
Number of aperture blades: 6 pieces
Front Filter Diameter: 82 mm
The weight: 1500g
Bayonet mount: B (Pentacon Six), medium format lens

This review presents namely Jupiter-36V 3.5 / 250 for medium format cameras Salyut, Salyut-S and Kiev-88. The lens also has a middle name: ARSAT B 3,5 / 250. Versions ARSAT B 3,5 / 250 and ARSAT C 3,5 / 250 had multi-enlightenment

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

There is a version of the Jupiter-36V lens with a “B” mount (Pentacon Six, P6, Praktisix) for medium format cameras Kiev-6C, Kiev-6C TTL, Kiev-60, Kiev-88CM, Kiev-88C. The Jupiter-36B lenses were produced at the Ukrainian Arsenal plant (possibly also at the Vega plant). Where exactly my copy was produced - I can't say, since all the identification marks were covered with black tape, most likely to simply hide the Soviet roots of the lens and give it even more pathos and attention of the surrounding public.

View of the Jupiter-36V lens on a modern camera

View of the Jupiter-36V lens on a modern camera

A huge advantage of medium format lenses is a large working distance, which will make it possible to make an adapter for almost any camera with the possibility of normal focusing. Unfortunately, I got a lens with a Salyut / M42 adapter, and I used Jupiter-36V on my camera Nikon D200 with the help of an additional adapter KP-42 / N while losing the ability to focus at infinity in the region of 30 meters. More details in the section Soviet optics. On Canon cameras, the lens is easiest to install through two adapters Salute / M42 + M42 / Canon EOS. It is written in more detail in the section old lenses at canon. Other systems also have their own adapters. The person who provided me with this lens uses it on a Pentax kr camera with two adapters Salute / M42 + M42 / Pentax.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

The main features of the lens Jupiter-36V:

1. The lens very heavyIt’s quite difficult to manage. The lens does not have a tripod socket, for example, like the Tair-3 or Helios-40-2. The complexity of the work is due to the fact that in reality the photographer does not hold a camera with a lens, but a lens with a camera. This lens is contraindicated for girls, you can only pose in front of it.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

2. The focus ring moves smoothly. Focusing ring metal. I consider the closest location of the focusing ring to the lens mount as the most serious drawback of the lens... Since you need to hold the lens itself with your left hand and focus, the lens puts a large lever and a huge load on the left hand. If the focus ring was in the middle, or closer to the front lens, it would be much more convenient to use the lens. The Helios-40-2 lens has a similar problem. When focusing, the entire lens unit moves, while the lens noticeably “stretches” the trunk. The minimum focusing distance of the lens is quite large - 3.5 meters, you should always remember about this. For example, the distant brother Jupiter-37A has an MDF of 1.2m.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

3. The maximum aperture of F3.5 does not make the lens fast, but F3.5 at 250mm is a very serious indicator. From Soviet optics with Jupiter-36B at similar focal lengths can be pulled in aperture only by MS Jasper-4N 200mm F2.8... They say there was a descendant of Jupiter-36B - Tele-4 3,5 / 250... The petals of the diaphragm are of a yellowish metallic color without blackening. Considering that the physical diameter of the aperture is simply huge, this negatively affects when photographing with closed apertures due to the fact that light is reflected from the metal blades. The closed diaphragm blades form “nuts”, the blades are not rounded. It's funny, if you close the aperture to the maximum value of F16, then you will visually see a rather large hole formed by the aperture. When using adapters, the function of the jumping aperture is lost.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

4. In my copy there was no built-in hood, but there was a screw-on hood in the front light filter. The lens hood does not help the lens in exposure. The lens just has a giant front lens under the 82mm filter, which is now not so easy to find. The front protective cover of the lens is metal, and it does not click on the lens, but is screwed in as a light filter.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

5. Of course, the best option is to use Jupiter-36V in full frame. On the Jupiter-36V crop, it will give an EGF equal to 375mm for Nikon DX cameras, and 400mm for Canon APS-C cameras... The angle of view is very narrow on the crop. Due to the very shallow depth of field and long distance, it will be very difficult to get into focus. Yes, and take off need at shutter speeds no longer than 1/250.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

6. Like any other old non-autofocus lens, it has all the necessary indicators for the depth of field, aperture and focus distance.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Image quality.

The image quality was disappointing. Most likely I did not have the most successful copy. The main problem of the lens is complete incompatibility with side light. The lens loses much contrast, in a light backlight (even when the light source does not fall into the frame), a photograph with a strong veil is obtained. Maybe I came across an unsuccessful instance, or maybe this is the problem of single-layer enlightenment. It would be interesting to try the version with MS. As for sharpness, sharpness on F3.5 is not the most pleasant, when closing the aperture sharpness increases very weakly. But the lens forms a three-dimensional image, without distortion and vignetting on my DX camera. Shallow depth of field allows you to make excellent portraits. The lens bokeh is excellent, like any other telephoto with an optical circuit Sonnar, for example Jupiter-37A, Jupiter-11 or a close relative Jupiter-21A... Color reproduction is normal. From Jupiter-36B, a wonderful "live" image is obtained, in this regard, I really liked Jupiter-36B.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photos on Jupiter-36V

All examples were made in my Nikon D200 with automatic white balance. All photos with automatic levels when converting from RAW to JPEG due to the fact that the lens is a little contrast. Reduced size 1600 * 1200 and imprinted data from EXIF.

Personal impressions:

Of course, the lens is very heavy. Such a lens can be used for photography, hunting, and self-defense ... It looks very solid on the camera with the hood on. I took Jupiter-36B for TFP set, when shooting, it turned out a lot of marriage due to misses in focusing and low contrast in some scenes. I shot with shutter speeds no shorter than 1/250 with handsto avoid blur, but because of the weight of the lens, you can increase the shutter speed up to 1/100. I do not recommend buying this lens for cropped cameras, it is very heavy and clumsy. Better look at Jupiter-21A or Jupiter-21M. If you want a super telephoto lens - Tair-3 or mirror-meniscus lenses of the type ZM-5CA 500mm F8.0... But on the full frame with Jupiter-36B, you can work - it's still very large aperture for such a focal length. For example, many people like lenses 80-200mm F2.8 (70-200mm F2.8), Jupiter-36V at F3.5 250mm will blur background no worse for them. Personally, I use the Soviet Jupiter-37A on the crop, and if you need something longer, then I have autofocus on hand Nikon 70-300VR.

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5

Sample photo on Jupiter-36V 250 F 3.5


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In the comments, you can ask a question on the topic and they will answer you, as well as you can express your opinion or describe your experience. For the selection of photographic equipment, I recommend large catalogs, for example E-Catalog. Many little things for the photo can be found on AliExpress.


Conclusions:

Jupiter-36V - very heavy lens. It is very inconvenient to focus, afraid of light exposure. Of the advantages - excellent bokeh, volume and color reproduction of the image. I do not recommend for cameras with a cropped matrix.

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Comments: 116, on the topic: Overview of Jupiter-36V 250mm F3.5

  • Dmitry Anatolyevich

    The adapter Jupiter-36B to M42 cost me the price of a can of beer. He unscrewed the shank, took off the jump rope, clamped the shank with two penny M42 macro rings, screwed it into place. Done!

  • R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№

    Is there also a version of the MC?

  • of the company

    When it comes to the author of this site that the picture on his crop and the picture on the FF are completely different pictures in quality: sharpness, micro-contrast, smooth transition to depth of field. In fact, 70% of the photo examples on this site are useless junk.

    Specifically in this case, at least on FF it was necessary to do a review.

    • B. R. P.

      Thank you, you all have opened your eyes. Useless rubbish on this site, comments like yours. And there are many of them.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      The review is 10 years old, then both ff and I did not have it. That's the whole answer

      • of the company

        Well, I actually realized a long time ago that you have a purely commercial project and you just don't care if there is traffic, and not reference, although in the beginning it helped me a lot, until questions began to arise.

        In this case, as a result, it turns out that the information is unreliable, it is a rather sharp contrast lens on ff, though here it is only that it is afraid of the back one.

        When you already had a full-frame gear, you did the same reviews. As a result, just breed illiterate people, in 2021 who think that when shooting with a crop through FF lenses, the picture should be sharper than on FF.

        • Arkady Shapoval

          What information is unreliable, let's fix that.
          I still have a full-frame one, I am updating and fixing something, the Ju-36 again did not come across.
          About "sharper" where did you get that?

          • of the company

            It is unreliable that it is not stipulated on any test, that on the crop or vice versa on the FF there will be a different picture. If you crop with an FF lens, you don't get the picture you want it to be. The picture will be less sharp in most cases, more lame in all cases. in all cases, the nature of the transition to the depth of field will be different - it will be sharper.

            “Let's fix it” means rewrite 80% of this site's text that remains in the noughties. It’s just amazing that you’ve been so hammered on the site and do not develop, especially these little pictures from the days of dialup.

            Why unsharp? The resolution of the glass is calculated for the film, it is somewhere around 10-12MP, you cut out a crop from these 10-12MP and stretch it to the same resolution of the matrix as the FF. If the glass does not have a “reserve” in sharpness, as, for example, in Zeiss (not Gdrovsky fake), then in this case it is still somehow more or less.

            • Arkady Shapoval

              Thanks, but it's obvious.

    • Maria Bardina

      So more than half of the reviews are just like this: on FF and on crop. Well this is what place you need to read the site in order to judge the project by the most ancient review)))

      • Oleg

        Moreover, most amateurs shoot with crop

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