Review MS 3M-5CA F8 500mm

For the opportunity review lens MS 3M-5CA many thanks to Alexander Panasyuk.

View of the lens MS ZM-5CA and filters from the kit

View of the lens MS ZM-5CA and filters from the kit

There are two lenses. MS 3M-5A and MS 3M-5CA. The second version of 3M-5CA is just an updated version of 3M-5A. 3M-5CA - two times lighter than his brother, and slightly smaller in size. On the one hand, less weight is good, but on the other hand, due to the light weight of the lens, the minimum excerptat which you can take off without grease pictures.

TTX 3M-5CA:
Focal length: 500mm
The weight: 620g
MDF: 4 meters
Diaphragm: F8.0 fixed
Front Filter Diameter: 72mm
Landing thread: M42
Manufacturer: LZOS (Lytkarino Optical Glass Plant, Lytkarino)

Also, you can find the name of the lenses: MC ZM-5A and MC ZM-5SA - these are the same MS 3M-5A and 3M-5CA.

View of the lens MS ZM-5CA and size comparison

View of the lens MS ZM-5CA and size comparison

The letters MC in the name of the lens indicate multilighting. The letters ЗМ stands for "mirror-meniscus". 3M-5CA Is not a classic lens lens. Have 3M-5CA special mirror-meniscus design, which includes the meniscus, mirrors and lenses. Menis and lenses have multi-lightening.

View of the MS ZM-5CA lens on a modern digital mirror camera

View of the MS ZM-5CA lens on a modern digital mirror camera

The main important information about MS 3M-5CA
1. The lens is super telephoto. 500 mm focal length give a very strong approximation. If used 3M-5CA on a camera with a cropped matrix (APS-C type), then the angle of view with this lens will be narrower, and the EGF will be 750mm for Nikon with crop factor 1.5 and 800mm for Canon c crop factor 1.6. With such a large focal length it is easy to reach distant objects, or simply go unnoticed by shooting from far away.

2. The lens fits for full frame. They will be able to work with him Nikon D700, D800(to), D3(x, s), D4, Canon EOS 5D (Mark II, Mark III), 1Ds Mark II (Mark III), 1D Mark IV and 1D X. Typically long-throw full-frame lenses are quite expensive, MC 3M-5A and 3M-5CA can be found for less than $ 100. e.

3. The lens only one aperture value equal to F8.0. The aperture value cannot be changed. For example, aperture F8.0 lower per aperture with an aperture of F5.6 ordinary whale lens only 2 times.

Photo on MS ZM-5CA

Photo on MS ZM-5CA

4. The focus ring is very convenient, rotates almost 360 degrees. The aim is smooth. The minimum focusing distance is 4 meters. After 30 meters, infinity begins on the focus distance indicator.

5. The front cover does not snap into place, but is screwed in. Moreover, it takes a long time to screw the cover. The cover covers the front lens, which is actually a concave meniscus.

6. Together with the lens there are 4 light filters: UV-1x, N-4x, ZhZ-2x, O-2.8X (ultraviolet, neutral, green and orange).

Sample photo on MS ZM-5CA

Sample photo on MS ZM-5CA

How to use on modern digital SLR cameras?
Despite the fact that the lens has an ending in the name “A”, the lens does not have a replaceable shank. On my copy of the MC 3M-5CA, there is simply an M42 thread for attaching to the camera. The lens has an amazing ability to focus beyond infinity. I use the lens with the KP-42 \ N adapter without a lens, while the ability to focus on infinity is preserved.

Attention 1: MS 3M-5CA cannot be installed simply with an adapter KP-42 \ N on cameras junior line due to the fact that the lens abuts against a built-in flash. I could not attach the lens to Nikon D40, Nikon D5000... On older cameras, the lens sits without problems. You can see the camera class in the section 'all nikon cameras'. As for Canon, I can't say.

Attention 2: in spite of the fact that the lens has M42 thread, on Nikon it will be possible to focus at infinity even with a KP-42 / N lensless adapter due to the fact that the focusing ring has a small "Running across" for infinity.

Attention 3: The lens is quite difficult to shoot. This is due to a large focal length of 500 mm, a small lens weight and a small aperture F8.0 Almost all Nikon cameras can confirm focusing on a green dot with apertures up to F5.6 (indicated in the camera specification). Therefore, confirmation by the green focus point will not always work. The green dot will only work well under normal lighting conditions. Who has a Live View is not a problem. Also, professional cameras such as Nikon D4 can be sharpened at F8.0 aperture by confirming with a green dot when using part of the focus points, as D4 supports focusing at F8.0

You can read how to install and use old lenses on modern Nikon digital SLR cameras in the section Soviet optics. For Canon in Old Canon Lenses.

Portrait on MS ZM-5CA

Portrait on MS ZM-5CA

Image quality:
The MS 3M-5CA lens gives a slightly contrasty image (it’s not at all a problem to fix it during processing). The lens has two very interesting features in the construction of the image. The first is the lens is completely devoid of chromatic aberration. Usually, the highest quality telephoto lenses are lightweight. HA, MS 3M-5CA - does not have them at all. Lack of HA associated with the mirror-meniscus lens design. The lens has an unusual bokeh - all the luminous points in the out-of-focus area are transformed into donuts and rings - this is a feature of the mirror-meniscus lens. Many people do not like this type of bokeh, in any case, the picture looks unusual.

Bokeh on MS ZM-5SA

Bokeh on MS ZM-5SA

Sample photos on MS 3M-5CA. All photos are taken on Nikon D200without processing. Converting from RAW to JPEG with auto levels, reduced the size to 1600 * 1200 and added a watermark with parameters EXIF. I did add auto levels, since raw RAW has pretty little contrast.

Personal impressions:
Take off hand lens 3M-5CA on the camera Nikon D200 without grease I get on shutter speed not lower than 1/100 of a second. I advise you to shoot no lower than 1/500. How to avoid blurring, is written in the article as Take off with Hands. Due to the small aperture and the need for a short excerpts when shooting handheld, even on a sunny day you will have to raise ISO. On a cloudy day I had to shoot at ISO 1600 and shutter speed about 1/320.

Photo on the lens of the MS ZM-5CA

Photo on the lens of the MS ZM-5CA

Why can I use such a lens?
With the lens, you can quietly shoot fearful animals, distant objects, etc. .. In fact, the lens is not so big, Tair-3 is much larger than the MC 3M-5CA. Fans of stealthy shooting, MS 3M-5CA will like it. On the camera, the lens looks pretty decent and impressive, it attracts a mirror, which is located in the middle of the front meniscus, which is rather strange for a conventional lens lens. MS 3M-5A and 3M-5CA have more brothers - these are 3M-4A, ZM-6A, with F6,3 and 500mm. ZM-6A is faster than 1.6 times (2/3 stops) for 3M-5A.

Photo on MS ZM-5CA

Photo on MS ZM-5CA


Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.

In the comments, you can ask a question on the topic and they will answer you, as well as you can express your opinion or describe your experience. For the selection of photographic equipment, I recommend large catalogs, for example E-Catalog. Many little things for the photo can be found on AliExpress.


Conclusion:
The 3M-5CA is an excellent super telephoto lens. Picture 3M-5CA has a complete absence of chromatic aberration. Focusing is smooth. The lens has low contrast and shooting without a tripod is quite difficult. I recommend it to all fans of hunting photos.

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Comments: 193, on the topic: Review of MS 3M-5CA F8 500mm

  • Irina

    Tell me, who knows, is there any sense in putting the K-1, 2-x, MS, M 42 Converter on it?

    • Aleks

      I tried it, the whole moon did not fit into the frame. Or did I put 2 (two) converters? K-1 and TK-2 - it seems so. But I will try the quality of a telephoto with a converter (s) already in warm weather on leaves-branches-birds (pigeons).

  • Stas

    removes very blurry, took a glass from a friend. I think to make out

  • Stas

    I have bokeh curves, here is the link to VK:
    http://cs406221.userapi.com/v406221762/9a1b/NHlkIr-wRAs.jpg
    maybe something is crooked there? any ideas?

  • Roman Ryabov

    There is such a lens at home, I bought it with a fool. Not impressed at all, the soap is full, either on the D90 or on the D600. Having removed the rear lens unit completely, I got a little more sharpness, in the summer I will try for macro, and so - honestly disappointed. IMHO on modern small-pixel matrices is not worth taking.

  • Alexander

    I was offered to play with ZM-6A 6.3 / 500. So the lens rests on a built-in flash, I have a Canon 60D :(

  • Daniel

    I have a ZM-5A, 67, and it has a removable bottom, like lenses with the “A” index. I screw it onto the camera with the usual Jolos adapter. Infinity without problems, due to the large overrun to the limiter

  • Sergei

    And I liked 50D on Kenon but loves the sun.

  • Steel

    Good time! People, tell me: MS ZM-5CA 500/8 on the Canon 60D will rise? Or will the built-in flash interfere? Thanks.

    • Ivan

      I got up on 50D without difficulty - there was also a significant gap, there were concerns about the ZM6A, which really screwed up very tightly to the influx of the flash (exchanged it for the Subj), the thing is long-range, albeit specific (darkish, and the focus is different from the same helices)

      • Steel

        Thank you!

  • Steel

    I ask for help! External flash does not work through YONGNUO RF-603C radio synchronizers
    (two in one). Outwardly, everything is in order. Settings do not help. Thanks.

  • Denis

    What is the difference between 3M-5CA and MTO-500? :)

  • Yura

    And this lens (ZM-6A, 6,3 / 500) perfectly fits Nikon D-40 through a conventional adapter for M-42 thread

  • Egor

    This lens is still manufactured and sold at the Lytkara Optical Glass Factory

  • Anatoly

    There is a lens ZM-6A, 6,3 / 500 with interchangeable shank + filters, used on Zenit-E. Change to Canon or Nikon. tolyan-krimea (dog) mail.ru

  • Alexander

    I can’t understand one thing. Everyone writes the focal MS 3M-5CA F8 500mm on the crop will be like 800mm. Including you, Alexander Shapoval. But the focal length of the fix cannot change, anyway. Anyway, you need to put on another system through an adapter, but in order to be infinite, you need to observe the working segment of the lens. And in this case we get the same focal length of 500mm. Another thing is that the angle of view will correspond to the angle of view of the lens with a focal length of 800mm. But many people think that on crop the focus should be increased by the size of the crop. And then if the crop is 2, then the focal length of the 500mm lens should become 1000mm. It is not true. As it was 500, it will be 500. People read your reviews and think so. Here's the link http://www.avito.ru/ekaterinburg/fototehnika/canon_nikon_teleobektiv_ms_3m-5sa_178828767 with redirection to this page. Explain to people that the focal lens does not change. If you set the stabilizer to 1000mm with this lens, then it will not work correctly. And if 500mm, then everything will be fine and you can remove it even with your hands.

  • Michael

    I tried the zm-5a lens on the nikon 5100 fits perfectly (truth without the KP-A / N shank, I'm waiting for the package). The package will arrive.

  • Daniel

    I have a ZM-5A 67g.v. The condition is excellent. Interchangeable shank, like Jupiter 37A. At 3 stops. The lens fits perfectly on my D70s and D7000. I also tried on the D5000 and D5100. At 70m and 7000m, AF point confirmation always works fine

  • Daniel

    Yes, I forgot to say more. With the lens I use the usual Nikon ring without a lens. Jolos is kind of called. Infinity is available, because the focuser twists far behind her

  • Kirill

    Sell: MC 3M-5CA 500mm f / 8 (800 UAH, 3300 rub)

    +380976513713

    • Alexander

      NOT sold yet ??? If not, then discard, pliiz, pictures of his condition and completeness on my mail.
      Good luck!

    • Alexander

      I live in Odessa (just in case)

  • Konstantin

    Today acquired 3M-5A MS. Installed on the Nikon D3100 through an adapter KP-42 \ N, infinity is preserved, until the built-in flash about 3-4mm remains. Until I ventured to remove the shank to install KP-A / N, tk. the bolts are rather tightly tightened, if the shank is removed on this lens at all. Who knows, unsubscribe.

    • Vladimir

      New to this business, I have Nikon D3100 and ZM-5A-MS 8/500, tell me, please, use only such an adapter and that's it, does the camera see the lens?

  • Sergei

    I will sell MTO 500 ideal 10 tr post office boss.wret@mail.ru Voronezh write or call 9003023540

  • Alexander

    Something wanted this lens ...) Professionals, tell me! I will shoot without a tripod, from a rocking (most often)) steamer. Should I take it? As I understand it, in my conditions, the exposure will be short and the pictures are dark ... or light at a long exposure and smeared))) can a larger ISO save? Tell me !!!! And then in 2 weeks already go to the ship and I would like to have time to buy it .. Thank you !!!

    • Ullar

      It's hard to shoot with hands - you need exposures no shorter than 1/500. Shoot from a moving deck, and even add shaking hands ... No. It will not work for these purposes.

  • Konstantin

    In fact, on the younger D40 / D60 it stands right next to it, strikes against the flash. I put it, changing the tail to Kiev (KP-A / N like). Only the scope of the lens on such cameras is very limited. Because of the small viewfinder, it is difficult to catch focus ... And as stated in the review - on a cloudy day it is quite a disaster if the camera is of an entry level. It will not work to raise the ISO due to the eerie noise. I'm thinking of trying it with D7100 and D600

  • Andrei

    Hi!
    Please tell me, I installed the ZM-5A-MS 8/500 lens on the Canon EOS 450D, so in the values ​​of the camera it shows the aperture value f2 / So should it really be?

    • Novel

      If you installed the lens through an adapter with a Lushnikov chip, then the chip must be programmed for the focal and diaphragm ZM-5A-MS 8/500 (the instruction is also on Lushnikov's website, and the seller had to give it). And if you put the lens without a chip only an adapter, then you need to shoot in “M” mode - manual, manual. And there everything is completely manual exposure, shutter speed.

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