If you have a brand new Canon digital SLR camera, or just wanted to squeeze the maximum picture quality from your Canon DSLR and have no money for very expensive professional lenses, manual optics come to the rescue. In countries emerging from the former Soviet Union is very popular Soviet manual optics.
Manual lenses are manual focus lenses. Usually, manual lenses mean old lenses. In the old days, lenses and cameras did not have autofocus. note that Soviet lenses (all Soviet optics) is manual, i.e. cannot focus automatically. To work with a manual lens, you need to focus manually. This can be learned quickly.
Tessar 2,8 / 50 CZJena (GERMANY). The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter with chip.
How to use old manual lenses on a Canon system? Very simple, to install an old manual lens on a Canon camera you need to find out what mount (bayonet) the lens is designed for. Basically, there are not so many types of fastening, this is the good old M42 thread, N mount and M39 thread.
M42 lenses need an adapter M42 - Canon EOS. This adapter is screwed onto the lens thread, and then the lens is mounted on the camera. All Canon cameras will automatically measure exposure. Moreover, it will be possible to shoot in any mode of the camera, even in automatic mode, although the aperture will need to be changed manually. It is very convenient to use the semi-automatic aperture priority mode (AV mode). When using an adapter M42 - Canon EOS will remain able to focus at infinity.
Conventional adapter M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Attention 1. When using the usual adapter M42 - Canon EOS without a chip on the camera focus confirmation will not work. This means that you have to focus completely on the eye.
To solve this problem, you can buy an adapter with a chip. The chip usually allows focus confirmation and “tricks” the camera, after which the camera thinks that it has a native lens on it. The chip is also called dandelion, less often Lushnikov dandelion. In the dandelion, you can program the focal length of the lens and the aperture value (you can not do this). Because in EXIF all images of the lens will be indicated on the received images (possibly, except for the focusing distance). You can buy a dandelion separately and attach it to an adapter or buy an adapter with a dandelion right away.
Attention 2. The parameters set in the dandelion (the sewn focus and aperture values) practically do not affect the operation of focus confirmation, but affect the measurement exposure.
Where to buy?
An adapter for lenses with a M42 mounting thread can be mounted on Canon EOS digital cutting cameras buy from this link.
Super-Takumar 1: 1.4 / 50 Lens Asahi Opt. Co. Lens made in Japan. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
Lens with a thread mount can be attributed a very, very many lenses. For example, the Helios-44m-X family of lenses, some of the Jupiter lenses, some of the Industar lenses and others. A striking example is the Helios-44m-2 and Industar-50-2 lenses.
KALIMAR MC 50mm K-90 AUTO 1: 1.7 COATED. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using adapter PENTAX K - CANON EOS.
For a lens with N mount, you will need to use an adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS. Yes, the N mount is the same as the Nikon system. Similarly, there is an adapter with and without dandelion. The most popular lenses with N mount: Helios-81N, MS Zenitar-N, MS Mir-47N, Mir-20N, MS Mir-24N, Kaleinar-5N, Tele-N, MS Granit-11N. Usually they have the letter “H” at the end of the name. You can read more about this adapter. here.
Soviet Helios-44m-5 MS lens on a Canon EOS camera 350D Digital Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
For lenses with M39 thread, use the M39-EOS adapter or two M39-M42 and M42 adapters - Canon EOS (picture below).
Pay attentionthat lenses with M39 thread are available from two types of cameras - SLR and mirrorless. For normal operation on the Canon system, only lenses from SLR cameras with M39 thread are suitable, for example, such as Helios-44, white jupiter-9. Lenses from rangefinder cameras can only be used in macro mode, in more detail here.
Examples of M39 mount lenses
- Jupiter-9 85mm f2.0 (mirror version)
- Jupiter-11 135mm F4.0 (mirror version)
- Mir-1 37mm F2.8 (mirror version)
- Telemar-22 200mm F5.6 (mirror version)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P (rangefinder option)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 P (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P rangefinder
- I-26m 52mm F2.8 rangefinder
- Industar-22 50mm F3,5 P rangefinder
Two adapters M39-M42 and M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Lenses from Kiev-10, Kiev-15 "AUTOMAT"
Lenses marked “Automatic” from the Kiev-10 and Kiev-15 cameras cannot be used on modern central control centers, since the lenses have a very short focal distance. I have not met adapters, it will be difficult to re-sharpen, too.
Attention 3. When using lenses from rangefinder cameras under M39 on the Canon system, the ability to focus at infinity will be lost, and indeed, the focus limit will be in a few centimeters. This is due to the different working segments of the native optics and mirrorless. More details are written in the article. Soviet optics on Nikon.
For lenses with “B” mount, from medium format, you need an adapter Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS. Bayonet B is exactly the same as the Pentacon Six, which is available in Kiev-60 medium format cameras. If the Pentacon Six - Canon EOS adapter is difficult to find, then you can use two adapters - Pentacon Six-M42 and M42-Canon EOS. B-mount lenses include Vega-12B, Jupiter-36B, Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2.8 / 180 Pentacon Six.
For B-mount lenses, from medium format, you need to use two adapters Kiev 88 / Salute on Pentakon six + Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS... Pentacon SIX also called P6 and Pentacon 6.
Attention 4. Mount C and B - two different mounts. People often confuse them. Be careful when choosing a lens.
Soviet Mir-1 lens on a Canon EOS camera
And there are also very interesting interchangeable shank CCCP lenses. Typically, lenses are indicated with the letter “A” at the end of the name. This means that the back of the lens can be changed. You can install, for example, a shank with M42 thread, or with a fastener H, which one is needed. The shank is usually fastened with three locking screws, which are very easy to unscrew and then tighten back. Such lenses include, for example, the legendary Jupiter-37A. To use a Canon camera on a lens, you should install two KP-A \ 42 + M42 adapters - Canon EOS. Well, or absolutely with a perversion of KP-A \ H + Nikon mount F - Canon EOS.
Soviet lens Industar-22 P
And so, we installed the old lens on the camera - what to do next? When using Soviet optics on Canon cameras, you should always rememberThat:
1. Auto focus will not on no Canon camera, even on the coolest Canon EOS 1DX. You will have to focus manually. Without a focus confirmation chip, it is very, very difficult to focus on sharpness, especially with open apertures. I advise you to immediately get a dandelion (chip).
2. A number of cameras have a mode live view - it will help to get into focus. Even if a dandelion is installed on the lens, the number of successful frames using focusing using Live View is much higher. It is very convenient to scale images on Live View for even more precise focusing.
3. Some lenses require refinement of the aperture control method. This usually comes down to blocking the blinking diaphragm mechanism so that the diaphragm can be controlled manually.
What is the penalty when using old lenses, new ones are much better, faster, etc. Here is a short answer:
1. Almost everything Soviet lenses suitable for full frame cameras. As you know, lenses for FF are much more expensive. So when changing crop to full frame, you will have a working lens and full frame. And you can also find medium format lenses that won't even give vignetting on the FF.
2. Lenses cheap. Of course, the issue is debatable, but the simple Helios-44m-2 is worth a mere penny, can be found for $ 10, and it gives a very good picture. For little money you can get a fast lens. But due to the boom in Soviet optics, for example, the price of Helios-40-2 reaches 1000 cu
3. Old lenses, when used properly, really give excellent picture resultGet accustomed to many useful photographic things. And for the sake of beautiful photography, all cameras and people work.
Two Soviet lenses shot from a Zenith camera
What can you start with from old lenses?
I am often asked what can be taken from the old Soviet optics on Canon, there is no definite answer, since each lens has its own purpose. Coming from the price / quality parameters, I recommend the following lenses:
- Helios-44 or any other modification of it. On APS-C cameras, Canon will work like a great portrait. The lens has excellent sharpness, high aperture and the legendary twisted bokeh. I recommend Helios-44 or any Helios-44M-X as the first Soviet lens on the Canon central shuttle.
- Industar-50 - just a good sharp fifty, probably the cheapest and most accessible Soviet lens and at the same time interesting to use.
- Jupiter 9 (any version of it). Wonderful portraiture and full frame and crop.
- Jupiter-37A. Wonderful portraiture. Easy to find. Canon’s APS-C is not very handy.
- Jupiter-21A or his brother Jupiter-21M. Great TV. Allows you to reach the deleted items.
- Vega-12B. Great portraiture.
- Granite-11N (Zoom Arsat 80-200). Zoom telephoto. Comfortable in using. Easy to find.
- Kaleinar-5N. Very sharp short telephoto.
- Industar-61 LZ. Very sharp fifty dollars, convenient for shooting small objects when using macro rings can provide excellent macro. One of the best lenses of the Soviet Union.
- Zenitar-M 50mm F1.7good sharp fifty dollars
- MS Helios-77m-4 or his brother MS Helios-77m
- Wave-3 80mm F2.8 MS great portrait
Conclusion:
On modern Canon digital SLR cameras, you can easily use the old Soviet lenses, as well as any other old manual lenses. More often than not, one adapter is enough to mount the lens on a Canon camera.
Thank you for attention. Arkady Shapoval.
I’m switching from sony nex to pentax and selling my entire collection.
Are anyone interested in such glasses ?:
Nikon:
Nikon Nikkor 180mm f2.8
Nikon Nikkor-Macro 55mm f2.8 AI-s
Nikon Nikkor-Macro 55mm f3.5AI
Nikon Nikkor-P 105mm f2.5 AI
Nikon Nikkor-Q 135mm f2.8
Nikon Nikkor-S 50mm f1.4
M42:
Hanimex Automatic 135mm f2.8
Super Takumar SMC 135mm f3.5
Tele-Lentar 135mm f2.8
OLYMPUS OM:
Olympus Zuiko 50mm f1.4
Minolta MD:
Minolta Macro Rokkor-QF 50mm f3.5
Focal Auto 135mm f2.8
Lentar 135mm f2.8
PENTAX:
Ricoh P Macro 105mm f2.8 Rikenon
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Hello! I bought an adapter m-42 with a chip today (fotik 650D). gives a software error. googling, I found the unpleasant thing that it was for this model that some kind of special chip was needed ((taped the contacts with tape, the carcass took the lens as a native, but alas, depriving it of confirmation of autofocus. And with my eyesight, it’s completely into infinite infinity and focus XD
Is it still possible to somehow configure the chip so that the camera does not growl at it?)
Autofocus confirmation seems to be completely independent of the chip (a dot in the corner of the viewfinder), the chip is needed only for the exposure pair.
Olga I have the same thing this dancer is not suitable for 650d I bought for 340g and returned the next day, I took it silently, because there is some kind of special switch with a programmable chip. I bought Jupiter, MIR, MTO140 through 500 setting - read the instructions
Maybe I didn’t understand something then?)) It seems that it was precisely for this that a chip was needed?)
And yes, I showed an aperture of 00 - what does that mean?)
The Lushnikov chip shows aperture 00 when there is no contact, there were such options that had to be programmed precisely through a slight twisting of the adapter with the Lushnikov chip until contact was lost (at the same time it began to show 00) and then it was necessary to pre-press the trigger and return the lens to its place and no later than 3 seconds it was necessary to press the trigger all the way - Lushnikov's chip entered the programming mode. Now more and more Chinese chips are on sale, they are programmed in M mode at a shutter speed of 1/80 by taking pictures at apertures of 64 57 64 and then choosing the type of operation during programming.
The method of working with manual optics should be as follows - first, check if there is a back-front focus, while relying not on the confirmation of the focus by the chip, but visually by eye through the viewfinder. If there is a back-front, you need to either grind down the thickness of the gasket in front of the focusing screen, or increase it. If there is no back-front focus, but the chip gives confirmation of the focus in an unclear place, you need to configure this parameter through the chip programming. Thus, the focal lens (for info) and the focus confirmation correction can be written into the chip.
The chip is needed to confirm focus, and not for expocouple. It is possible without it. I use an adapter without a chip. Aperture 00, right. You can only set the shutter speed on the camera. Aperture manually, as well as focus. What do you want from a manual lens? why stick contacts? Even with the chip it will show aperture 00. You set the aperture to a ring on the lens. Do you even know how to do this? A metering with manual lenses can lie. The camera measures exposure when the aperture is open. Do you understand what I mean?
Alexander, do not confuse people and do not generalize. For example, on Canon 10D on a manual lens (any) through an adapter with a Lushnikov chip in aperture priority mode, exposure metering will work correctly, only the correct values need to be written into the chip. For example, for Helios 58 mm you need to register 58 mm in the chip (not necessary, but desirable) and the main thing is to prescribe the maximum open aperture 2. Then, on the camera in AB mode, set the aperture to 2, and on the lens itself, turn the ring with the aperture as much as you like - the phot itself measures exposure correctly.
yes, and at the same time, the aperture value will be displayed the same as the one you selected on the camera, not the lens, but not 00.
I understand) and the chip had to be sealed, because with open contacts it gives a software error, and nothing can be done about it (
I needed a chip to confirm focus
If your vision is not very good, why not buy autofocus optics? I would not take 650 canon in your place, but would take 1100 and a normal lens. Since I have little money, I am renting at 1100, I got a very sharp whale. But playing the world1-in, it's hard to focus, but I basically shoot the landscape, that is, I focus on infinity and close the aperture
there is no money for good optics, in the long run L-24 105))
it is clear that portraits and landscapes can be shot calmly and so ... but since I wanted to use helios with its enchanting bokeh in macro, it’s already hard here (as always, I am lucky XD
and I wouldn’t pay that kind of money for a plastic lens. for which I like the old optics, that it is made of metal, and modern L is unlikely to last 30 years. Do you know why I feel sorry for money for expensive modern optics? because expensive optics will greatly disappoint. She will not give a fabulous picture. I asked one photographer who is even filming now about the quality of a whale lens. So, he also uses it when occasionally picks up a digital camera. Strange huh? a person has more than 30 lenses, including Zeiss. He says that the whale lens is not so bad. Yes, he has cheap plastic, poor construction, low aperture. That’s why it’s cheap. But in sharpness, it surpasses the Soviet ones, including helios. try shooting helios in sunny weather. The whale is superior in contrast. Time passes and you begin to understand that you need not chase expensive optics, but learn, read, and gain experience.
I have a Canon 550 d, the Jupiter 37A lens has recently appeared. The phrase in this article is not entirely clear - “It is very convenient to use the semi-automatic aperture priority mode (AV mode)”.
See the diaphragm we rotate manually on Jupiter? And in the priority of the aperture, I always have the same number when the Jupiter is wound. Someone has 00, as they write above ... .. For me, for example, it is convenient to shoot at shutter speed priority with Jupiter.
So who is right? Where is the mistake?
Yes, under the louse aperture, the device automatically adjusts shutter speed and ISO. Therefore, the concept is conveniently always relative. Remember that the best is the enemy of the good.
How can we compare modern optics, and even more so L class with Helios?
The resolution is even higher for the whale.
If talcum powder does not break iron?
I agree that helios perfectly “paints” soft portraits, and it is “easier” to rearrange the lens with all the bells and whistles than to wind a smoothing filter on your own.
Probably the whole thing is in habit and stereotypes.
Is the resolution higher? I do not argue. But where to find the resolution data of modern optics? As for the Soviet, no problem. Why are modern manufacturers silent about these characteristics?
progress does not stand still, but where can a simple worker find money for optics, L? and in general people, having read articles that the whale is “a plug so that dust does not fall on the matrix,” rush to buy more expensive optics. Once a woman with a DSLR about $ 1000, with a heavy telephoto camera, also asked me to take a picture. I took the camera, and I see that there is a machine gun, I ask, shoot like this? she says yes. The sky was cloudy, but light, the machine gun immediately raised the flash, and the photo turned out with a dark background. That is why people who are too lazy to look at the exposure meter and turn the tuning wheel need expensive optics and a camera?
Just have any extra money ..))))
here, they bought themselves power mirrors, in freaky horns, and they remove it on the machine !! hahahahahaha !!! and even through the glass of the bus with a raised flash-bang! looks, and there the light from puff on the whole canoe !!! again puff !! looks again, the same thing !! and can’t understand why. As a marmoset with glasses sits twisting, not driving in, but a little sense. I almost died with a laugh !!!! damn it kapets !!!!! What for them are such devices ??? nightmare. and funny and sad.
I have guys canon450d and I want a wide-angle lens some kind of tell me something from the Soviet technology will do?
For example, a lens family - a family
part of Industar object - lenses
Usually have the letter "H" - the letter
old Soviet lenses, Soviet
Fixed
In general, there is a small selection of Soviet wide-angle lenses. one of the most popular - Mir-1v, but on the crop it is no longer a wide-angle, but 59 mm. Mir-10 28 mm, 44mm cropped. It is expensive, apparently because it is not as massive as the world. There is also a 16 mm zenith, a fisheye. is also expensive for old optics, $ 150 new.
Bearing, 8 mm, on the crop will also distort, do you need it?
I still had a TAIR-33 4.5 / 300 TV set from Zenith, I used it for many years along with a makeshift adapter. Is it worth it to unmount the adapter to use with the Canon 650d?
for 650d for some reason, the M 42-Kenon adapter does not work with a dandelion. So buy a simple adapter for 70 hryvnia and focus through the wiew mode ... that is, through the screen with magnification
On 550d, adapters with chips work. Each lens has its own adapter with a chip, and then just experience.
you need an adapter m-42 - canon Eos
I bought an adapter today. Should he wind up tight so tightly, or is it such a marriage?
I have a chip adapter M42-EOS. I want to buy new Helios 85 / 1.5 and Zenitar Fisheye. Questions.
1. What is better to take: these lenses with M42 thread (and put through your adapter) or are these lenses already with the Canon-EF mount type, that is, right under Canon?
2. Is the different length of the segment there not critical?
3. And is it possible then to stick the Lushnikov chip, if you take it with canon tails?
I finally got confused, unravel me, please.
Good afternoon. Found Industar-50 3,5 / 50 white, but short as 50-2. I wrote out an adapter with a dandelion for it. I wanted to program, but it doesn't work. In order to enter the programming mode, in the M mode, three times click with the aperture 64-57-64. But my aperture does not change, it is constantly at 1,4. The shutter speed changes, but the giaphragm does not, I seem to do everything as expected. Mode M, shutter speed 80, exposure step 1/3. There is contact with the camera, because when the lens is not set, it shows aperture of 00, after clicking it shows 1,4. What am I doing wrong, tell me. Or maybe the Chinese sent a "dummy", there is no way to check it on another device, since I and my friends do not have it.
hello on sale in nete there was a new MS Zenitar-S 2,8 / 28 Lens (Canon) if you have first impressions I would like to know the truth so far is a little expensive.
Hello, I have a Canon 650D. I bought an M42 EOS adapter with a chip, but when the lens is connected, the camera says “Error while updating firmware”, what should I do?
1. Dear owners of canon 650, use the version of adapters with chips for your models. They differ from standard adapters. Compatible camera models are ALWAYS indicated by sellers.
2. Programmable adapters (EMF) allow you to adjust the front / back focus. This is the main difference between their advantage, and everything else is useless.
3. Shoot in RAW. Subsequent processing (development) will allow you to adjust the white balance and exposure.
4. Do not shoot portraits with ANY lenses from a distance of less than 1,5 meters if you do not want to get distorted proportions of faces.
I got myself an adapter for canon 650 and was faced with the fact that many suppliers honestly pointed out the incompatibility of dandelion with canon 650. Most likely, the necessary software for this camera has not yet been developed. Acquired normal and all is well.