If you have a brand new Canon digital SLR camera, or just wanted to squeeze the maximum picture quality from your Canon DSLR and have no money for very expensive professional lenses, manual optics come to the rescue. In countries emerging from the former Soviet Union is very popular Soviet manual optics.
Manual lenses are manual focus lenses. Usually, manual lenses mean old lenses. In the old days, lenses and cameras did not have autofocus. note that Soviet lenses (all Soviet optics) is manual, i.e. cannot focus automatically. To work with a manual lens, you need to focus manually. This can be learned quickly.
Tessar 2,8 / 50 CZJena (GERMANY). The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter with chip.
How to use old manual lenses on a Canon system? Very simple, to install an old manual lens on a Canon camera you need to find out what mount (bayonet) the lens is designed for. Basically, there are not so many types of fastening, this is the good old M42 thread, N mount and M39 thread.
M42 lenses need an adapter M42 - Canon EOS. This adapter is screwed onto the lens thread, and then the lens is mounted on the camera. All Canon cameras will automatically measure exposure. Moreover, it will be possible to shoot in any mode of the camera, even in automatic mode, although the aperture will need to be changed manually. It is very convenient to use the semi-automatic aperture priority mode (AV mode). When using an adapter M42 - Canon EOS will remain able to focus at infinity.
Conventional adapter M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Attention 1. When using the usual adapter M42 - Canon EOS without a chip on the camera focus confirmation will not work. This means that you have to focus completely on the eye.
To solve this problem, you can buy an adapter with a chip. The chip usually allows focus confirmation and “tricks” the camera, after which the camera thinks that it has a native lens on it. The chip is also called dandelion, less often Lushnikov dandelion. In the dandelion, you can program the focal length of the lens and the aperture value (you can not do this). Because in EXIF all images of the lens will be indicated on the received images (possibly, except for the focusing distance). You can buy a dandelion separately and attach it to an adapter or buy an adapter with a dandelion right away.
Attention 2. The parameters set in the dandelion (the sewn focus and aperture values) practically do not affect the operation of focus confirmation, but affect the measurement exposure.
Where to buy?
An adapter for lenses with a M42 mounting thread can be mounted on Canon EOS digital cutting cameras buy from this link.
Super-Takumar 1: 1.4 / 50 Lens Asahi Opt. Co. Lens made in Japan. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
Lens with a thread mount can be attributed a very, very many lenses. For example, the Helios-44m-X family of lenses, some of the Jupiter lenses, some of the Industar lenses and others. A striking example is the Helios-44m-2 and Industar-50-2 lenses.
KALIMAR MC 50mm K-90 AUTO 1: 1.7 COATED. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using adapter PENTAX K - CANON EOS.
For a lens with N mount, you will need to use an adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS. Yes, the N mount is the same as the Nikon system. Similarly, there is an adapter with and without dandelion. The most popular lenses with N mount: Helios-81N, MS Zenitar-N, MS Mir-47N, Mir-20N, MS Mir-24N, Kaleinar-5N, Tele-N, MS Granit-11N. Usually they have the letter “H” at the end of the name. You can read more about this adapter. here.
Soviet Helios-44m-5 MS lens on a Canon EOS camera 350D Digital Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
For lenses with M39 thread, use the M39-EOS adapter or two M39-M42 and M42 adapters - Canon EOS (picture below).
Pay attentionthat lenses with M39 thread are available from two types of cameras - SLR and mirrorless. For normal operation on the Canon system, only lenses from SLR cameras with M39 thread are suitable, for example, such as Helios-44, white jupiter-9. Lenses from rangefinder cameras can only be used in macro mode, in more detail here.
Examples of M39 mount lenses
- Jupiter-9 85mm f2.0 (mirror version)
- Jupiter-11 135mm F4.0 (mirror version)
- Mir-1 37mm F2.8 (mirror version)
- Telemar-22 200mm F5.6 (mirror version)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P (rangefinder option)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 P (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P rangefinder
- I-26m 52mm F2.8 rangefinder
- Industar-22 50mm F3,5 P rangefinder
Two adapters M39-M42 and M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Lenses from Kiev-10, Kiev-15 "AUTOMAT"
Lenses marked “Automatic” from the Kiev-10 and Kiev-15 cameras cannot be used on modern central control centers, since the lenses have a very short focal distance. I have not met adapters, it will be difficult to re-sharpen, too.
Attention 3. When using lenses from rangefinder cameras under M39 on the Canon system, the ability to focus at infinity will be lost, and indeed, the focus limit will be in a few centimeters. This is due to the different working segments of the native optics and mirrorless. More details are written in the article. Soviet optics on Nikon.
For lenses with “B” mount, from medium format, you need an adapter Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS. Bayonet B is exactly the same as the Pentacon Six, which is available in Kiev-60 medium format cameras. If the Pentacon Six - Canon EOS adapter is difficult to find, then you can use two adapters - Pentacon Six-M42 and M42-Canon EOS. B-mount lenses include Vega-12B, Jupiter-36B, Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2.8 / 180 Pentacon Six.
For B-mount lenses, from medium format, you need to use two adapters Kiev 88 / Salute on Pentakon six + Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS... Pentacon SIX also called P6 and Pentacon 6.
Attention 4. Mount C and B - two different mounts. People often confuse them. Be careful when choosing a lens.
Soviet Mir-1 lens on a Canon EOS camera
And there are also very interesting interchangeable shank CCCP lenses. Typically, lenses are indicated with the letter “A” at the end of the name. This means that the back of the lens can be changed. You can install, for example, a shank with M42 thread, or with a fastener H, which one is needed. The shank is usually fastened with three locking screws, which are very easy to unscrew and then tighten back. Such lenses include, for example, the legendary Jupiter-37A. To use a Canon camera on a lens, you should install two KP-A \ 42 + M42 adapters - Canon EOS. Well, or absolutely with a perversion of KP-A \ H + Nikon mount F - Canon EOS.
Soviet lens Industar-22 P
And so, we installed the old lens on the camera - what to do next? When using Soviet optics on Canon cameras, you should always rememberThat:
1. Auto focus will not on no Canon camera, even on the coolest Canon EOS 1DX. You will have to focus manually. Without a focus confirmation chip, it is very, very difficult to focus on sharpness, especially with open apertures. I advise you to immediately get a dandelion (chip).
2. A number of cameras have a mode live view - it will help to get into focus. Even if a dandelion is installed on the lens, the number of successful frames using focusing using Live View is much higher. It is very convenient to scale images on Live View for even more precise focusing.
3. Some lenses require refinement of the aperture control method. This usually comes down to blocking the blinking diaphragm mechanism so that the diaphragm can be controlled manually.
What is the penalty when using old lenses, new ones are much better, faster, etc. Here is a short answer:
1. Almost everything Soviet lenses suitable for full frame cameras. As you know, lenses for FF are much more expensive. So when changing crop to full frame, you will have a working lens and full frame. And you can also find medium format lenses that won't even give vignetting on the FF.
2. Lenses cheap. Of course, the issue is debatable, but the simple Helios-44m-2 is worth a mere penny, can be found for $ 10, and it gives a very good picture. For little money you can get a fast lens. But due to the boom in Soviet optics, for example, the price of Helios-40-2 reaches 1000 cu
3. Old lenses, when used properly, really give excellent picture resultGet accustomed to many useful photographic things. And for the sake of beautiful photography, all cameras and people work.
Two Soviet lenses shot from a Zenith camera
What can you start with from old lenses?
I am often asked what can be taken from the old Soviet optics on Canon, there is no definite answer, since each lens has its own purpose. Coming from the price / quality parameters, I recommend the following lenses:
- Helios-44 or any other modification of it. On APS-C cameras, Canon will work like a great portrait. The lens has excellent sharpness, high aperture and the legendary twisted bokeh. I recommend Helios-44 or any Helios-44M-X as the first Soviet lens on the Canon central shuttle.
- Industar-50 - just a good sharp fifty, probably the cheapest and most accessible Soviet lens and at the same time interesting to use.
- Jupiter 9 (any version of it). Wonderful portraiture and full frame and crop.
- Jupiter-37A. Wonderful portraiture. Easy to find. Canon’s APS-C is not very handy.
- Jupiter-21A or his brother Jupiter-21M. Great TV. Allows you to reach the deleted items.
- Vega-12B. Great portraiture.
- Granite-11N (Zoom Arsat 80-200). Zoom telephoto. Comfortable in using. Easy to find.
- Kaleinar-5N. Very sharp short telephoto.
- Industar-61 LZ. Very sharp fifty dollars, convenient for shooting small objects when using macro rings can provide excellent macro. One of the best lenses of the Soviet Union.
- Zenitar-M 50mm F1.7good sharp fifty dollars
- MS Helios-77m-4 or his brother MS Helios-77m
- Wave-3 80mm F2.8 MS great portrait
Conclusion:
On modern Canon digital SLR cameras, you can easily use the old Soviet lenses, as well as any other old manual lenses. More often than not, one adapter is enough to mount the lens on a Canon camera.
Thank you for attention. Arkady Shapoval.
Thanks for the intelligibly written article. For a long time I could not find such information.
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tell me which dandelion to take Kenon 60d from me, and I want to take tair 33. Please tell me the name of the dandelion and where it can be purchased in Ukraine. Thank you in advance)
Dandelion is called Lyushnikov Dandelion for Canon. You can take it on the official website of Lushnikov, or in the Ukrainian branch and here http://vk.com/oduvan_lushnikoff
which adapter with m42 will keep focus at infinity? there is
with flange http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS3Y9mQYWd4k-2aKlsULR-dAJ–ezL7quVPMlT1Qrxoken_mmBfgBrZhDjszQ
and without him http://www.bolshoyvopros.ru/files/users/images/16/fb/16fbccd11b94eb2277688eb892f4ff0f.gif
For which lens?
for helios 44-2
550d carcass
Focusing on infinity will keep both adapters.
Tell me, please, is there any point in taking Helios 44m4 + Jupiter 37a, but I won’t have a whale lens ??? My main argument is that it will be necessary to remove the demobilization of my beloved on video, will helios fit on video, can I remove it ??? 550d camera
It can be removed, but it will be quite difficult to do.
Hello. I put white Helios 7 on Kenon 44d through a 39 by 42 ring and an eos adapter with a chip. No focus on infinity. Checked on several similar white brothers. Moreover, on Helios 44 m42 there is no such problem. Tell me how to return focus to infinity?
Question. Could it be a disease of all m39 when attached through the m42 ring? I just plan to take a white bpeeter 9, and he is also m 39 ... So I sit and think ...
When using two adapters, the M39-M42 and M42-EOS should not lose infinity. But, in fact, the M39 is 45,2 mm, and 45,5 mm, possibly a microscopic malaise and does not give infinity.
Hi
Good day! Please tell me, I have a canon 550d, I want to buy a Helios 44m-4 and an adapter m42 for canon eos.
So I found links, a good lens and an adapter ??
http://aukro.ua/adapter-m42-m42-canon-eos-s-chipom-af-podarok-i2446980433.html
http://aukro.ua/gelios-44m-4-ideal-sovetskih-portretnikov-i2491114070.html
It is very difficult for me to evaluate a lens by its image. But I think everything will be fine.
Good day! Tell me where you can buy for Canon 550 D, a Helios 44m-4 2/58 lens and an adapter adapter for Canon EOS.
Drop the link please (Ukraine)
go to the manual optics section of my site
And tell me at 550d the best helios, what do you think and how much will it cost
There is no concept the best, they are all different for different functions. If you want to get a good interesting lens, then Helios-40-2 for 1000 cu will be just right.
Here I also have a canon 550d and I want to get a Helios -81N lens, how much it costs, what adapter is needed and all that please tell me pzhlst.
And what is your opinion about the Helios 44m-4?
About what adapter is needed, is written in this article, please be careful and at least just read. For the Helios-81n lens, you need a Nikon-Canon adapter. My opinion about Helios-44m-4 is expressed in his review.
Please tell me what kind of adapter is required: with or without a dandelion, on m42 - eos, to a CANON EOS 300 film camera? And when using Soviet manual techniques, will it still be possible to work in aperture priority mode?
Maybe someone will come in handy (Auto Focus, Alignment, EMF):
When the shutter button is pressed halfway, focus confirmation should work. I have a 200mm lens, and the Canon 500D / 300D has a very high defect rate. The Canon focusing screen does not help in any way, unlike those that were placed on old cameras (wedges, a matte surface). Autofocus was confirmed, but in the pictures it was obvious that there was a back / front focus.
The chip can be adjusted. Honestly, how it works, I did not understand, but I got the desired result. We can influence the adjustment as follows - enter a value from 0 to 31. I did this:
1. Printed out a focus check target. The network is full of different options, there are commercial ones.
2. Entered the value 00 received +2.5 on the scale.
3. Entered 31. Got +1. This result is valid, but I wanted better.
4. The value 05 gave +4. 20 gave -2.
5. As a result, “hit”: 25 shoots at 0-0.5, good.
The procedure is not fast, the input of information into the chip is implemented, of course, is not convenient. But it is better than nothing. In just five steps, we managed to reach the goal without going through all 32 options. If someone understood what these values specifically mean from 0 to 31, or found my method is not correct - write to the mail.
Thank you for sharing the information.
Hello Arkady!
Thank you for the article! read it with great pleasure!
I would like you to ask your advice. At home there is "Vigilant 4" and "Zenith" and lenses for them - Jupiter 8 and Helios 44.
The other day I ordered myself an ordinary M42 adapter without a chip for my already rather old Canon 350D. But while my product is still coming to me, wandering around different sites and asking friends, I found out that it seems like Jupiter is a much better lens, that it draws better, is faster, etc.
In this regard, could you tell me:
1. Is it possible NOT to use 2 adapters to put Jupiter 8, if it seems like there is one http://fotomag.com.ua/chk-m39-eos-info.html and if you put it, will there be a problem that you wrote about (that only macro photography will be available)?
2. Should I get in touch with the first question? Does Helios really lose to Jupiter?
3. And finally, is dandelion really helping? The difference in price with and without it changes 3 times (((
Thank you very much in advance! =)
1. It is possible, immediately from M39 to Canon EOS, Jupiter-8 was only rangefinder, therefore, it can not be used on mirrors with focusing at infinity without significant alteration.
2. What is losing? These are just different lenses.
3. For people with experience it does not really help, for beginners it does. As you can see, all my reviews are written without dandelion, however, on Nikon
It's my pleasure :)
Good time of day! Please help me figure it out, found by ad http://bazarpnz.ru/ann/3818776/ lens 12V, we have not been able to see it yet. I can't figure out what kind of bayonet is there? I called the seller and said the markings on the VEGA 12B lens, i.e. As I understand it, the P6-> Canon EOS adapter needs to be supplemented with an adapter from the fireworks? Or is it bayonet B and you can get by with one P6 per canon? Thank you in advance.
When it's on hand, it will be easier, I'm afraid that B is transliteration into English of our B.
Please tell me how you can put a lens from a Minolta DYNAX 505 film camera on a Canon EOS 600 digital camera. And through what adapters ...
Thanks for the competent article!
Can you tell me something about the Helios 85-210mm Automatic lens?
I haven’t used it, I can’t tell you.
I want to try using Soviet lenses with a Canon 5D Mark II, I heard that it can touch the mirror when focusing at infinity. Is this really possible and what could be the consequences? I want to put the lens Helios 44-3.
Yes, it can hurt. The mirror from this is not very good, but it did not reach serious problems. I once built something on Nikon that hit the adapter hard with a mirror, I found out about it after an hour of shooting, when it just jammed. Rejected, since then the camera has run another twenty thousand.
Hmm, some kind of bad assumption :-) Does it make sense then to start such an action?
This is a matter of enthusiasm for Soviet lenses.
The quality of the lenses inspires me extremely. Now I use Helios with Nikon 3100, I really lack focus. Therefore, I want to put it on 5D. I thought of buying something like a 550d, but I want a full frame so that the picture fits wider. Tell me, what is better to take in my case to use with Soviet optics?
5d, for latitude look at Zenitar 16mm
As a shirik, he planned to take it. but I would also like the World 35mm and Helios 50mm as portraits. The main thing is to be sure that I won’t kill the 5D mirror, because it’s a very cheap device.
comes with an adapter nikon mount f-eos can even be mounted on the kenon nikkory? will there be problems in the work?
Must not be. Many use old Nikon lenses on Canon.
Great article!
Thank you very much)
I would like to hear from you advice, I want to buy the canon d1100 and the Soviet Helios 44-2 for it, will the swirling bokeh effect be visible?
and do they shoot well in the dusk?
Yes, the twisted bokeh effect will be visible. In the twilight removes normally.
Good afternoon! Can you please tell me what adapter is needed for a canon 450d lens - jupiter 8m
You need an adapter: M39-M42 and M42-Canon EOS
Hello!
I rummaged through many sites in search of an adapter for Jupiter-8m.
It seems to me that in this case you were mistaken, because Jupiter-8m, unlike Jupiter-8, has a Contax mount, not a thread!
Taki was wrong.
you are a big smart girl! I learned so much from your articles. Can you tell me, can I put old lenses on EOS?
It all depends on what kind of old lenses it is.
good evening! I read your article, but for myself I could not find the answer to the question, will my Canon D60 work with the lens on the Exakta mount? Is there a Canon EOS adapter or adapter for Exakta lenses?
Arkady hello!
I read your articles, I understand a lot.
But there is a question:
What to choose as a portrait on the Canon 30D?
1) Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 3.5 / 135 MC (black but without a red letter * T)
2) Zenitar 1.7 \ 50
3) Helios 77-M4
Sonnar will be very good, but he will have to run a little. The rest, too, can serve as portraits on the crop.
Thanks for the answer! That is, out of the ones I have listed, this is the best option, (excluding "running")?
And another question - is the version of Sonnar (a) with a red letter * T - much better than the same simple MC black?
I didn’t hold it in my hands, it’s hard to say, turn to Dmitry Evtifeev, he should be familiar with these ceiss http://evtifeev.com/
Thank you!