If you have a brand new Canon digital SLR camera, or just wanted to squeeze the maximum picture quality from your Canon DSLR and have no money for very expensive professional lenses, manual optics come to the rescue. In countries emerging from the former Soviet Union is very popular Soviet manual optics.
Manual lenses are manual focus lenses. Usually, manual lenses mean old lenses. In the old days, lenses and cameras did not have autofocus. note that Soviet lenses (all Soviet optics) is manual, i.e. cannot focus automatically. To work with a manual lens, you need to focus manually. This can be learned quickly.
Tessar 2,8 / 50 CZJena (GERMANY). The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter with chip.
How to use old manual lenses on a Canon system? Very simple, to install an old manual lens on a Canon camera you need to find out what mount (bayonet) the lens is designed for. Basically, there are not so many types of fastening, this is the good old M42 thread, N mount and M39 thread.
M42 lenses need an adapter M42 - Canon EOS. This adapter is screwed onto the lens thread, and then the lens is mounted on the camera. All Canon cameras will automatically measure exposure. Moreover, it will be possible to shoot in any mode of the camera, even in automatic mode, although the aperture will need to be changed manually. It is very convenient to use the semi-automatic aperture priority mode (AV mode). When using an adapter M42 - Canon EOS will remain able to focus at infinity.
Conventional adapter M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Attention 1. When using the usual adapter M42 - Canon EOS without a chip on the camera focus confirmation will not work. This means that you have to focus completely on the eye.
To solve this problem, you can buy an adapter with a chip. The chip usually allows focus confirmation and “tricks” the camera, after which the camera thinks that it has a native lens on it. The chip is also called dandelion, less often Lushnikov dandelion. In the dandelion, you can program the focal length of the lens and the aperture value (you can not do this). Because in EXIF all images of the lens will be indicated on the received images (possibly, except for the focusing distance). You can buy a dandelion separately and attach it to an adapter or buy an adapter with a dandelion right away.
Attention 2. The parameters set in the dandelion (the sewn focus and aperture values) practically do not affect the operation of focus confirmation, but affect the measurement exposure.
Where to buy?
An adapter for lenses with a M42 mounting thread can be mounted on Canon EOS digital cutting cameras buy from this link.
Super-Takumar 1: 1.4 / 50 Lens Asahi Opt. Co. Lens made in Japan. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
Lens with a thread mount can be attributed a very, very many lenses. For example, the Helios-44m-X family of lenses, some of the Jupiter lenses, some of the Industar lenses and others. A striking example is the Helios-44m-2 and Industar-50-2 lenses.
KALIMAR MC 50mm K-90 AUTO 1: 1.7 COATED. The lens is shown on a digital SLR camera. Canon EOS Digital Rebel XSi. Attaching the lens to the camera using adapter PENTAX K - CANON EOS.
For a lens with N mount, you will need to use an adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS. Yes, the N mount is the same as the Nikon system. Similarly, there is an adapter with and without dandelion. The most popular lenses with N mount: Helios-81N, MS Zenitar-N, MS Mir-47N, Mir-20N, MS Mir-24N, Kaleinar-5N, Tele-N, MS Granit-11N. Usually they have the letter “H” at the end of the name. You can read more about this adapter. here.
Soviet Helios-44m-5 MS lens on a Canon EOS camera 350D Digital Attaching the lens to the camera using M42-Canon EOS adapter without chip.
For lenses with M39 thread, use the M39-EOS adapter or two M39-M42 and M42 adapters - Canon EOS (picture below).
Pay attentionthat lenses with M39 thread are available from two types of cameras - SLR and mirrorless. For normal operation on the Canon system, only lenses from SLR cameras with M39 thread are suitable, for example, such as Helios-44, white jupiter-9. Lenses from rangefinder cameras can only be used in macro mode, in more detail here.
Examples of M39 mount lenses
- Jupiter-9 85mm f2.0 (mirror version)
- Jupiter-11 135mm F4.0 (mirror version)
- Mir-1 37mm F2.8 (mirror version)
- Telemar-22 200mm F5.6 (mirror version)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P (rangefinder option)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Jupiter-8 50mm F2.0 P (m39, white, rangefinder)
- Industar-26m 50mm F2.8 P rangefinder
- I-26m 52mm F2.8 rangefinder
- Industar-22 50mm F3,5 P rangefinder
Two adapters M39-M42 and M42 - Canon EOS without chip
Lenses from Kiev-10, Kiev-15 "AUTOMAT"
Lenses marked “Automatic” from the Kiev-10 and Kiev-15 cameras cannot be used on modern central control centers, since the lenses have a very short focal distance. I have not met adapters, it will be difficult to re-sharpen, too.
Attention 3. When using lenses from rangefinder cameras under M39 on the Canon system, the ability to focus at infinity will be lost, and indeed, the focus limit will be in a few centimeters. This is due to the different working segments of the native optics and mirrorless. More details are written in the article. Soviet optics on Nikon.
For lenses with “B” mount, from medium format, you need an adapter Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS. Bayonet B is exactly the same as the Pentacon Six, which is available in Kiev-60 medium format cameras. If the Pentacon Six - Canon EOS adapter is difficult to find, then you can use two adapters - Pentacon Six-M42 and M42-Canon EOS. B-mount lenses include Vega-12B, Jupiter-36B, Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2.8 / 180 Pentacon Six.
For B-mount lenses, from medium format, you need to use two adapters Kiev 88 / Salute on Pentakon six + Pentacon Six (Kiev-60) - Canon EOS... Pentacon SIX also called P6 and Pentacon 6.
Attention 4. Mount C and B - two different mounts. People often confuse them. Be careful when choosing a lens.
Soviet Mir-1 lens on a Canon EOS camera
And there are also very interesting interchangeable shank CCCP lenses. Typically, lenses are indicated with the letter “A” at the end of the name. This means that the back of the lens can be changed. You can install, for example, a shank with M42 thread, or with a fastener H, which one is needed. The shank is usually fastened with three locking screws, which are very easy to unscrew and then tighten back. Such lenses include, for example, the legendary Jupiter-37A. To use a Canon camera on a lens, you should install two KP-A \ 42 + M42 adapters - Canon EOS. Well, or absolutely with a perversion of KP-A \ H + Nikon mount F - Canon EOS.
Soviet lens Industar-22 P
And so, we installed the old lens on the camera - what to do next? When using Soviet optics on Canon cameras, you should always rememberThat:
1. Auto focus will not on no Canon camera, even on the coolest Canon EOS 1DX. You will have to focus manually. Without a focus confirmation chip, it is very, very difficult to focus on sharpness, especially with open apertures. I advise you to immediately get a dandelion (chip).
2. A number of cameras have a mode live view - it will help to get into focus. Even if a dandelion is installed on the lens, the number of successful frames using focusing using Live View is much higher. It is very convenient to scale images on Live View for even more precise focusing.
3. Some lenses require refinement of the aperture control method. This usually comes down to blocking the blinking diaphragm mechanism so that the diaphragm can be controlled manually.
What is the penalty when using old lenses, new ones are much better, faster, etc. Here is a short answer:
1. Almost everything Soviet lenses suitable for full frame cameras. As you know, lenses for FF are much more expensive. So when changing crop to full frame, you will have a working lens and full frame. And you can also find medium format lenses that won't even give vignetting on the FF.
2. Lenses cheap. Of course, the issue is debatable, but the simple Helios-44m-2 is worth a mere penny, can be found for $ 10, and it gives a very good picture. For little money you can get a fast lens. But due to the boom in Soviet optics, for example, the price of Helios-40-2 reaches 1000 cu
3. Old lenses, when used properly, really give excellent picture resultGet accustomed to many useful photographic things. And for the sake of beautiful photography, all cameras and people work.
Two Soviet lenses shot from a Zenith camera
What can you start with from old lenses?
I am often asked what can be taken from the old Soviet optics on Canon, there is no definite answer, since each lens has its own purpose. Coming from the price / quality parameters, I recommend the following lenses:
- Helios-44 or any other modification of it. On APS-C cameras, Canon will work like a great portrait. The lens has excellent sharpness, high aperture and the legendary twisted bokeh. I recommend Helios-44 or any Helios-44M-X as the first Soviet lens on the Canon central shuttle.
- Industar-50 - just a good sharp fifty, probably the cheapest and most accessible Soviet lens and at the same time interesting to use.
- Jupiter 9 (any version of it). Wonderful portraiture and full frame and crop.
- Jupiter-37A. Wonderful portraiture. Easy to find. Canon’s APS-C is not very handy.
- Jupiter-21A or his brother Jupiter-21M. Great TV. Allows you to reach the deleted items.
- Vega-12B. Great portraiture.
- Granite-11N (Zoom Arsat 80-200). Zoom telephoto. Comfortable in using. Easy to find.
- Kaleinar-5N. Very sharp short telephoto.
- Industar-61 LZ. Very sharp fifty dollars, convenient for shooting small objects when using macro rings can provide excellent macro. One of the best lenses of the Soviet Union.
- Zenitar-M 50mm F1.7good sharp fifty dollars
- MS Helios-77m-4 or his brother MS Helios-77m
- Wave-3 80mm F2.8 MS great portrait
Conclusion:
On modern Canon digital SLR cameras, you can easily use the old Soviet lenses, as well as any other old manual lenses. More often than not, one adapter is enough to mount the lens on a Canon camera.
Thank you for attention. Arkady Shapoval.
I did not quite understand how to put Helios-37A on Canon.
I can not find the adapter KP-A / 42 anywhere. Maybe it means KP-A / M42?
So.
acquired an adapter with a chip, programmed, eliminated the front focus on the Helios 44-2, everything works, excellent sharpness, the adapter is like this
http://ali.pub/2i8e17
Tell me, please, I install Helios through an adapter with a 650d chip, I get blurry pictures, that is, the confirmation of focus does not correspond to the real focus, when the focus confirmation is triggered, I get a strong front. The adjustment of the carcass in the Kenon service did not lead to anything. How to marry helios on kenon,
Find a programmable adapter. It provides for adjustment.
Because of this chip (micro-tuning), I changed 500D to 50D
I tried to use manual lenses on the Kenon 30D. The quality is of course the highest, but there is probably a problem with metering. In general, everything is in perfect order at the maximum aperture, but with each next stage of the aperture, the frame brightens and a full overexposure occurs at aperture 16 or 22. Aperture Priority Mode
For the experiment, I tried all the other modes, but the rest happens the same way.
The only way to avoid overexposure is exposure compensation, the value of which reaches -2 at apertures of 11-16.
Is it normal? I thought that with aperture priority, shutter speed will automatically be selected relative to the aperture.
This is the specifics of the camera. On my 350d the same trouble.
Question to the practice of thirty. I want to buy thirty and there is a good collection of M42 manuals where you can thoroughly understand the focus and shooting in general in such a tandem. If possible links. I can not imagine how it is possible to focus on the optical (pentaprism) viewfinder, is the magnification enough? And how to focus in mirror up mode?
Thank you) The main thing that I now know is that everything is in order with the camera. Although to be honest, I’m already used to this specificity and already pre-install compensation by eye.
The problem is that Canon on manual optics measures exposure based on the fact that the aperture is open when metering. Therefore, your f / 8, f / 11 are perceived as some kind of f / 2.0
Exit - half press when open - close - capture
The article is very good, thanks to the author. 1. For those who wrote that the chip does not work on the 650th, on new models, such as 650d, 60d, 70d, 5dm2, 5dm3, standard chips (1st and 2nd generation) do not work due to the peculiarities of software and hardware. The only 3rd generation adapter that works with these carcasses is still produced by the company and costs 3 times more. 2. Regarding vision, what about dioptric viewfinder correction? If the built-in from +1 to -2 (-3) does not help, then special viewfinder lenses with stronger correction are produced
Arkady, hello. Thank you for the informative articles, I learned a lot for myself. I have such a question, there are two Soviet lenses Helios 44m and Tair 35 both with M42 threads. Please advise which one to buy a camera and an adapter so that you can use both a lens such as a Canon 30D? Seriously, I’ve never been involved in photography, I want to try. Thank you.
Any old 20-weave, 30-weave will be just right :) I'm shooting at 350d
Tell me, why do I need an adapter KP-A \ 42
Hello! Here's my problem: there is a canon 600d, helios-44m, an m39 adapter (without a chip). As it is written in all the articles, the lens becomes a good portrait, but it doesn’t work for me to focus on large objects, even the face, only small ones: flowers, pencils, berries, etc. In general, only macro photography comes out. How to be maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Hi! Tell me please, is the lens from FED-3 (2,8-52) suitable for use with DSLRs, if so, will it give the best result for standard Kenon lenses?
I HAVE A GOOD IDEA
decided to share. it makes sense to have one adapter from a Nikon lens to a Canon with a quality chip. And put all the acquired optics immediately on the Nikon mount. This will allow you to eventually have an almost universal set of lenses for Nikon \ Canon optics. Now even the Nikon D5200 does not require a chip to focus and calculate exposure. And Nikon lenses can easily be screwed onto the carcass of a canon through a single, high-quality adapter.
Tell me please! I have an industrial lens 61 l / s ms 2,8 / 50, which one is better for me to take a camera? Where to get the adapter? Can I order it somewhere? Thank!
if you know how to buy on ebay then you here
for canon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120553375247?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Nikon does not have a very successful working period. You will need to buy an adapter and work with a file)))
the operation of the exposure metering system without a chip seemed to me more successful than with a chip ...
interesting fact, it’s a pity that without a chip there is no focus ...
Hello!
Tell me, please, to the Helios 44-m-7 lens with a Canon 42 adapter with a chip, which Canon cameras are suitable so that there are no problems?
Works with all Canon cameras for the EF and EF-S series mounts.
get an AF EMF chip adapter from a seller with a good rating. Here, for example
http://www.ebay.com/itm/120553375247?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
This will make it possible to program the chip for your focus and hole, as well as make adjustments for focusing.
Hello everybody! I want to share my experience with the M42-EOS adapter with EMF (programmable). The first thing I would like to pay attention to when buying an adapter is the presence of play between the camera mount and the adapter. When I first bought it, I encountered such a problem: the camera, when focusing, lost contact with the chip and gave an error. At the same time, only turning off the power of the camera helped. Fortunately, I bought it in a special store and the guys exchanged it without any problems. Therefore, when choosing a method of buying this adapter, and not only it, consider the possibility of exchanging or returning if something happens. The one that bought first was not programmable, but the next one with EMF. And did not regret it. In non-programmable data on the focal length, aperture and focus correction for sharpness are already sewn up, and as a result on different lenses they give a different picture - not the one you wanted. With a programmable chip, things were much better for me. After certain manipulations with programming, the result was satisfied. The number of blurred pictures has decreased significantly. Above in the comments, it was pointed out that when adjusting the aperture on the camera itself, it is necessary to make exposure compensation in order to avoid overexposure. At first, I did the same thing, but later, having studied some material on the operation of the exposure in CANON cameras, I tried differently. The aperture in the chamber was left maximum, i.e. the one that was programmed into the chip, and changed the aperture on the lens as needed. And the result: adequate pictures, without overexposure and grease. The only thing is that in EXIF the aperture value remains unchanged. But this is not so important, I think. And I consider the possibility of adjusting focus to sharpness to be an even greater plus of the programmable chip.
Thank you Arkady for your work! I hope that my little experience will help someone!
I completely and completely agree. By the way, there is a seller on EBAY - on the quiet Lushnikov's chips are trading for 7 bucks))))
remove the chips and put the focusing screens with Doden wedges and there will be order with the metering))) First you can compare the metering with a chip sealed with tape ... they are kosyachny, regardless of the manufacturer.
http://youtu.be/r2P6WeAdGRs?t=9m15s Examples of lenses where Helios is written not in Latin but in Russian
Hello! Sorry, if I repeat with the question, I did not re-read all the comments. )
Please tell me, I have a Canon EOS600, 55 mm
Advise me the lens for the most part for portraits, I do not understand Soviet optics, and I can not choose. Also explain which adapter I will need.
Thank you!
Optimal for portraits is considered FR 80 mm aperture from 1.0 to 2.8. That's the basis for this and choose. If we consider lenses with a minimum aperture of 3.5 or more, then we can expect that in the room you can not do without an external flash. Pay attention to Carl Zeiss Biometar 80 / 2.8. If the writing is not clear, then do not buy anything, but use a whale lens in the 55 mm position.
Can you tell me where in Moscow time you can buy the chip itself - a dandelion? Essence of the problem: there is a collapsed lens canon 50mm 1.8
The loop is cut off, the camera’s automation refuses to work, repair of such a lens costs the price of the lens itself, as a simple way I consider installing the chip with the possibility of photographing in manual mode. If there is a link where you can take the chip itself, I’m very grateful)
Hello, I really like what kind of photos are obtained with Helios 40 and an old Kenon crop. But I think it's time to go to FF, to 6D. Will I be able to “adapt” Helios there too? What adapter do you need? or will you have to forget about your favorite lens? (
Hello everyone and a good time of the day! Jupiter-37A is historically preserved. There is a Canon 600D. I decided to breed them. I bought an adapter. I put it. I screwed the lens and went to the park for a photo shoot. The forums advise Av mode. So I tried. I pointed through viewfinder with a lens, set the aperture on the lens. Everything seems to be not bad, but:
is there a focus on the focus of about 0,5 meters? Twist diopters on the viewfinder?
How do the aperture on the lens and the carcass interact? Does it turn off on the carcass?
Experienced comrades will share with the amateur photographer. Pliz !!!
Hello,
for 600D - use the programmable adapter M42-EOS with the ability to adjust,
or change the tushka to 50D, for example - there this feature is sewn into the camera menu
Good luck
I put the MS MTO-110A 10/1000 lens on a Canon EDS 600D camera using a dandelion adapter - (specially for shooting stars and the moon), I can't take a photo (the shutter clicks not completely), although it shoots with Helios44. I would be grateful for some advice or hint
The phrase is not clear - two adapters are required for connection: KP-A / M42 + M42-CanonEOS
Good afternoon.
I want to try to install 11N Granite on Kenon, but there is a blinking diaphragm, I am considering the purchase of two adapters: http://m42-adapter.in.ua/adapter-nikon-f-ai-g-canon-ef-eos-s-chipom-podtverzhdeniya-fokusirovki/ и http://m42-adapter.in.ua/adapter-nikon-f-canon-ef-eos-s-chipom-podtverzhdeniya-fokusirovki/
The first has the ability to use the blinking iris function, the second does not.
Tell me which is better to choose.
Thank you
Good afternoon!
Please tell me, is it possible to put the Jupiter 8M lens on the Kenon 650d camera, will it work correctly on the SLR? Thank you in advance for your response!
You can put it, but it will not work correctly. Jupiter-8m is a rangefinder lens, it can only be used as a macro on SLR cameras, an example is here https://radojuva.com.ua/2013/04/obzor-jupiter-8-f2-50mm/