Lushnikov Dandelion for Nikon

Please note that Lushnikov’s dandelion is for Nikon and Canon, as well as for other systems. This review presents exactly Dandelion Lushnikova for Nikon AF.

Lushnikov dandelion for Nikon. Poster.

Lushnikov dandelion for Nikon. Poster.

Lushnikov's dandelion is brilliant invention Russian inventor and amateur photographer Viktor Lushnikov, which gives a second life to manual optics and speeds up the work with manual lenses. The invention is popular even in the West, where it is known under the name 'Dandelion For Nikon By Victor Lushnikov '. A manual lens is a lens without CPU contacts on the lens.

What is so ingenious about it - but the fact that it allows you to make a not quite 'old' one from an old non-autofocus lens. Of course, to make autofocus from a manual lens is a matter only for a photo guru, but it is quite possible to make a pseudo-autofocus.

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

Let's start with the task:

When using any manual optics in younger Nikon cameras, such as D40, D40x, D50, D60, D70, D70s, D80, D90, D100, D3000, D3100, D3200, D5000, D5100, D5200, D3300, D5300 metering will not work. That is, if the lens does not have a chip for communicating with the camera, then the camera will simply refuse to measure exposure. Due to the lack of metering, it will not be possible to use the camera in any mode other than mode-M. This imposes its limitations on the speed of the photographer. Who has older cameras by type Nikon D200, D300, D2x, D3s, D700, D7000 - so take care of the measurement exposure no reason. True, there is a tendency that the steeper the camera, the less sophisticated a person is in manual lenses, which can be easily replaced with sophisticated autofocus analogs. Attention, old manual lenses really work on younger Nikon cameras only in manual camera control mode.

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

On junior Nikon cameras will have to determine the metering exposure by eye or by histogram. With experience, you can pretty well guess the shutter speed / aperture / ISO, but with any change in lighting you need to constantly rebuild and “shoot”. For example, the sun went behind the cloud and the shutter speed needs to be adjusted almost twice.

Nikon AF Lushnikov Dandelion allows Nikon cameras to automatically measure exposure.

How he does it? Very simply, he communicates with the camera and the camera thinks that it has a “native” lens with certain data on it.

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion

Data: focal length and aperture can be programmed into a dandelion. This is done very simply according to the instructions. Programming is done by a set of pictures with certain shutter speeds.

As a result, you can program real lens datato be transmitted in EXIF snapshot module. It is really very convenient.

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

For older cameras, this function is also very convenient, as it allows you to program only a certain number of lenses inside the camera. And programming the lens for each camera is extra time, in contrast to the one-time programming of the dandelion on the lens.

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

If you have a manual lens with a blinking aperture, like old Nikon lenses AI-S, AI, Non-ai, Pre-ai, then you can make it so that you can control the iris from the camera itself. This is generally a great feature that is not available even in older Nikon camerasif you don't use Lushnikov's Dandelion. Actually, I will explain - set the aperture will be possible in the camera, as for a regular Nikon aft-focus lens. For an example, I will give Kaleinar-5Non which I installed this Dandelion. I performed the installation myself.

For Kaleinar-5n, the dandelion is programmed by setting the maximum and minimum aperture, after which the diaphragm can be controlled from the camera using the control dial. My Nikon D90 works in any mode, even automatic (Auto - green zone).

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Another indispensable plus is pseudo-auto focus (focus trap). That is, if you focus in focus mode AF-S and AF-A and press the shutter button completely, the camera will take a picture only when it is confident in the exact focus. Very comfortably - pressed the button and slowly turn the focus ring until the shutter releases. On trial Kaleinar-5n with a dandelion in AF-S mode with automatic selection of the focusing area, there were about 20% misses, in AF-S mode and single-point focusing there were almost no misses.

Also, autofocus mode can be turned off either using the camera or programmatically (as if the switch on the lens itself).

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Example photo on a lens with a dandelion Lushnikov

Of course, there are also disadvantages of dandelion:

  1. Not the easiest installation technique. Although it’s easy to cope with.
  2. Measurement Errors exposure when working with auto iris, especially on closed apertures.
  3. Measurement Errors exposure when working with flash. Errors within normal limits even in FP mode.
Dandelion shot with a dandelion

Dandelion shot with a dandelion

There are far fewer drawbacks than opportunities. The article contains photographs taken with matrix metering at the camera Nikon D90 and with an upgraded lens. The photo shows the amendments to exposure of EXIF. Strong correction should be done after closing the aperture at F8.0. This is most likely due to the not completely linear aperture for the MS lens. Kaleinar-5N.

My experience:

I don't use dandelion on either Canon or Nikon cameras. Learning to use old lenses without modifying them on modern Nikon and Canon cameras is as easy as shelling pears. Detailed instructions on using old lenses on any SLR or system camera can be found in the section 'How to use old lenses on modern Nikon cameras?'

Conclusion:

Lushnikov Dandelion for Nikon AF allows for all modern digital SLR cameras from Nikon get measured exposure and use the camera at least - in aperture priority, and as a maximum - in any available mode on the mode dial :). For a range of lenses (especially for H mount) It is possible to control the diaphragm directly from the camera. And also we get sound focus confirmation and the ability to take photos only when the lens reaches accurate focus. Still appears possibility of focus adjustment... Lushnikov's Dandelion is a great inexpensive option to upgrade your old lens.

Where to buy?

As strange as it may sound, it is easiest to buy such a chip nowadays on Aliexpress: with a chip without a lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens?

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Comments: 417, on the topic: Dandelion Lushnikova for Nikon

  • Eugene

    Nikon D5100 Camera. MS Helios-81H 2/50 lens with an installed Lushnikov dandelion. I didn’t use it without a dandelion (do not tear it off). I flashed it according to the instructions f2 - F16. All auto modes, exposure confirmation, and metering scale work. Data is displayed in EXIF. But there is a problem - exposure metering only works correctly on f2, and when you close the aperture through the settings in the camera, the pictures come out highlighted. Therefore, when working on closed apertures, you have to set the mode to "M" and experimentally select the shutter speed. At the same time, the metering scale “requires” an increase in shutter speed. Of course, you no longer pay attention to it, which is not very pleasant. I repeat that with f2 everything works correctly. This is normal? Maybe it’s worth reflashing the dandelion as f2 - f32, so that exposure compensation works?

    • Eugene

      In general, the question can be closed. I found the following lines in the instructions for the dandelion: “Note. On pre-AIS series lenses, manufactured before 1981, the iris control mechanism has a non-linear design. When shooting with such lenses, a little exposure compensation may be required. ” I decided that this is just as true for Helios-81H 2/50 MC. I applied the exposure compensation according to Dmitry's post dated 25.10.2016 at 23:29 in the discussion of the Helios-81H 2/50 MS lens. There he gives the following numbers of exposure compensation:
      Aperture number: 16; 8 ; 5.6; 4.8; 4; 3.2; 2.8; 2.4; 2
      Exposure compensation -3; -3; -3; -2.5; -2; -1.5; -1 ; -0.5; 0
      The chip setup was left by f2 - f16. Using these exposure compensation units, the exposure has become correct.

      • Eugene

        In the discussion on Helios-81H 2/50 MC, Dmitry corrected me that if you flash f2 - f16, then at 16 it would be really 5,6, and if there was a real 16, then you need to flash f2 - f32.
        I took a couple of pictures on f16 with f2-f16 firmware, pointing the camera at myself, while looking at the lens - the aperture really closed by half. I asked for f2-f32. After that, the lens at 32 - closed completely (simulating f16) - the exposure with the specified amendments is clear, the sharpness is amazing!
        I bring the complete table indicated by Dmitry:
        On the carcass we expose: 32; 22; 16 ; eleven; 11; 8; 5.6 ; 4; 2.8
        Petals close: 16; 8 ; 5.6; 4.8; 4; 3.2; 2.8; 2.4; 2
        Exposure compensation -3; -3; -3; -2.5; -2; -1.5; -1 ; -0.5; 0
        I tested it in practice - everything is really correct. Either you need to remember all this or draw yourself a small plate and carry it in a photo bag.

        • Eugene

          Created the following table, leaving the aperture numbers printed on the lens and deleting the rest. I glued the table with tape on the inside of the lens cap. Now all the numbers are always at hand.

          • Olga

            Eugene, you have the table turned out in small print. When copying is not read at all. If possible, please throw in a personal tuzoo@bk.ru

            • anonym

              And you click on it, it will increase)

          • Olga

            I ask you to clarify about the chip setup: is it preferable (more convenient to use) f2 - f16 or f2 - f32?

  • Eugene

    From the instructions for Lushnikov's dandelion: changing the aperture, focal, adjustment, reset to default - it's all clear. And why do we need the next item: “AF / MF switch. Same as the switch on the lens. Just take one shot at 5.6 aperture and the switch will reverse. ”?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      For example, for a focus trap.

      • Eugene

        Now I press the shutter halfway, twist the focusing ring, and when the focus is correct, a beep sounds and the confirmation point lights up, when you press it, the shutter is released. And if you press the shutter all the way, then when focusing, the shutter is immediately released. And what changes if you switch (programmatically) AF / MF?

  • Paul

    I used it four times from the moment of purchase and then a miracle happened on the fifth, this design simply split into two parts and alas, the chip ceased to exist in this world, it just had to be thrown out. Shit and only. And about all the shoals, even I do not want to waste time.

    • KalekseyG

      Hands to sharpen.

  • Eugene

    It can be seen that with careless manipulations with the lens, the extreme contact was simply hooked and broken. You need to be more careful ...

  • Eugene

    Checking the “AF / MF Switch” In AF mode, a picture can be taken only after focusing. The so-called "autofocus trap" also works. And in MF mode, a picture can be taken in any case, as if the camera had a lens without a chip.

  • Eugene

    I bought and installed the chip on MC Kaleinar-5N 2,8 / 100. With it, the lens confidently entered the lens park for my D5100. Will serve as a portrait. Dandelion made it almost fully functional (priority modes, exposure metering, focus confirmation, shutter lock, flash operation) except for autofocus. So I recommend it again - dandelion gives new life to good manual lenses.

  • Paul

    Friends, tell me please! If I put a dandelion lens on the F90x - what could be the problem? Chip won't die? Lushnikov, as I understand it, is better not to ask, he will send them away ... I found only one mention on the net that the focusing function was stuck on the chip after the F90. Lushnikov writes that the dandelion does not work on this camera, and he conceals what exactly the non-work is. And is there a chip difference between F90x and F90?
    Picture to attract attention: Helios 81N / 2 Nikon D90 ISO 320

    • KalekseyG

      Yes FIG knows them. On my 50 / 1.4 chip it works with all the cameras that fell into the hands and the D40 didn’t want to, while the chips with D40 worked on other lenses

  • Michael

    Good day. I am a Nikon D3300 camera user. Recently I became the proud owner of a Jupiter 37a lens with a helical shifted on the thread (for focusing to infinity) and an M42 adapter ring. The question is, if I put an adapter with a dandelion (chip) instead of the usual adapter ring, will everything work correctly (focusing is primarily of interest), given that the helicoid is displaced. Thanks in advance for your reply.

    • Jury

      an ingenious solution is to use the tail of the M42 in the U37A, shift the helicoid and get infinity on Nikon. Put the tail KP-A / N and you won't have to do any dances with a tambourine. If you put a dandelion for the focusing trap, read whether it will in principle work on the D3300, if so, it doesn't matter if the helicoid is displaced, although if you put KP-A / H, then it is better to assemble the lens correctly.

    • KalekseyG

      Nothing will change if the adapter is ordinary without a lens, the focusing will be the same. But to put the KP-A / N is expensive, as it costs u-37 itself. But when reworking, you most likely have a small overshoot of infinity, try to set a thin wire between the lens and the adapter exactly to infinity - there will be a hard stop

      • Michael

        Yes, there is an overrun of infinity, therefore, I am writing here to find out how this will affect the work with dandelion. I don’t think there will be any problems to remake the helicoid (the previous owner of the lens did this procedure), as far as I know this is a reversible alteration. As for the KP-A / N, it is really very expensive. I understand that if you put the wire, it will solve the problem of overrun, but I often rearrange the lenses during the shooting, and extra body movements will be added with the wire, in general I find it inconvenient. Wrote a post to find out from those who were faced specifically with my problem. Thanks for the comments.

  • Vladimir

    Good day, people.
    Please tell me how to technically install a dandelion on a Nikon 180mm 1: 2.8 ED Nikkor Ai-S lens (do I need to cut a skirt and how, nuances, how to glue it correctly). Maybe somewhere there is a video instruction or an overview of installing a dandelion on this particular lens. If possible, please share. For early thanks.

  • Maxfex

    Hi!
    Thank you for the article!

    Just in case, here is a link to Andrey Kuryanov's Facebook page:
    https://www.facebook.com/kuryanchik
    Arkady, if not difficult, add a link to the article. And then with access from Ukraine now there are, say, "nuances".

  • Eugene

    Can you use dandelion alone on several manual lenses?

    • KalekseyG

      Yes. Only the lens parameters will be the same for everyone. But the main thing is that the carcass will automatically expose and pick in focus.

  • Nikon

    Peace to all!
    Arkady, thanks for the reviews! But the following point is of interest: which of the chips (Lushnikov or Pixco) will you recommend for Nikon 5200 and 5500? Recently, more and more often I see a link to you on Ali, there are also chip lensed adapters there, but it is not clear how they work (flash, metering, trap). Thanks!

    • KalekseyG

      If you believe the world wide web, then there are no Chinese for Nikon, there is only Lushnikov. China buys them in bulk and sells them to the world. Total - no difference.

      • Denis

        strange. the thing is, in general, uncomplicated. why Lushnikov could, but the Chinese - not?

        • KalekseyG

          It wouldn’t be difficult;

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Good day. Work the same way.

  • Olga

    I ask you to clarify about setting up the chip on the Helios-81N: is it preferable (more convenient to use) f2 - f16 or f2 - f32?

    • KalekseyG

      It’s even better to do 2-60. At values ​​4, 5.6 it will be more accurate.

      • Vitaly N

        I won’t try it. For a less accurate cover, you must either adjust the lever inside the lens with screws or grind it from the outside, making sure that the diaphragm fully opens only at the end of the lens rotation during installation, but not earlier.

        • KalekseyG

          And I, damn it, have not tried it !? So, from nothing to do wrote. By stretching the diaphragm readings in the chip, the nonlinearity of the values ​​is slightly subtracted in reality.

          • Vitaly N

            I did not notice changes, as there was overexposure, and remained. Stretching the range does not help much, only by removing the dead zone of the diaphragm cover when moving the lever. By sawing, I achieved normal operation on covered diaphragms; when programming a large range, I still had to do exposure compensation. This makes it possible to cover up to a real 16, but it does not eliminate the correction.

          • Vitaly N

            For fun, I'll try to reprogram and compare the exposure on closed apertures in the evening. In addition to Helios, there is ai 105 / 2.5

          • Vitaly N

            Well, I took it and tried it. I set the diaphragm ranges 2-16, 2-32, 2-60. The results were compared by the histogram at aperture 5.6 versus 2.0. And did not see the difference! As it was about a step overexposure, it remained. In principle, I did not expect anything else. But I program the aperture less than 16 - 32, 60, etc. it is possible to obtain a real aperture up to 16. Therefore, tables of aperture settings up to 32 with exposure compensation are given.
            It turns out that for each diaphragm number, the dandelion sets its own position of the pusher. And if the entire range of the pusher corresponded to the diaphragm range of the lens, then with a range of 2-16 the lens would work as it should, and from 2-60 there would be a huge overexposure on covered apertures. That is, the opposite result to what KalekseyG describes. But this does not happen. However, on the original lenses, the diaphragm is actually divided into the entire range of movement. The dandelion does not emulate the native lens quite correctly, so there are problems with metering with the flash and focusing walks away from lighting.

    • Vitaly N

      You can also 2-16. And it's not scary that in reality the diaphragm will not close until 16 - he does not need it. At small apertures, the photos are unlikely to differ from the whale. Usually I don't cover more than 4 on the camera, in fact the aperture is even larger due to nonlinearity. The point of its use is portraits with a swirling background.

  • Nikita

    Good day! Is Lushnikov still working? I mean, can he buy an original dandelion right now, or is everyone already taking China?

    • Vitaly N

      The site is working. Write to him and ask.

  • User

    Hello. Tell me, can I do this on the canon, so that when the focus ring rotates when the focus gets in, the shutter fires when the button is pressed like on a nikon?

    • Alex

      Yes you can. To do this, install the ML firmware.

  • anonym

    However, Mr. Lushnikov has taken too much credit on himself, especially as an “inventor”. A detailed description of the "invention", down to oscillograms with indication of the clock frequency, was published on one of the French sites, which, unfortunately, is not active now. That is why this “inventor” sends so many interested details about the “invention”!

    • Reply to Anonymous

      Lushnikov himself took an active part in the discussion on that very French site.
      But, only he managed to make Dandelion for Nikon, bringing everything to its logical conclusion in the form of a production process. In addition, he made the function “F60 ″ in dandelion, which works on older models and allows you to control the aperture in the dandelion displayed by the camera - from the lens.
      More than 8 years have passed since the beginning of Dandelion sales for Nikon, but until now the Chinese have not been able to repeat it, they release a chip with fixed data "45 / 2,8", which cannot be changed.
      It’s easy to pour mud on a person without doing anything like that.

  • anonym

    Quote from the review “Another irreplaceable plus is the pseudo-autofocus (focus trap). That is, if you focus in AF-S and AF-A focusing modes and press the shutter button fully, the camera will only take a picture when it is confident that it is in focus. Very convenient - we pressed the button and slowly turn the focusing ring until the shutter is released. "
    Question: Will the “screwdriver” of the camera rotate in AF-S and AF-A focusing modes when the manual lens is attached? Will this damage the focus motor of the camera?
    Thank you.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      will not, will not hurt.

  • anonym

    Excellent informative site! I asked questions twice and got quick, convincing answers from “samogO”! Arkady - respect and every success!

  • anonym

    I bought an adapter with a Lushnikov chip for nikon, did everything as shown in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW5RE8wtUvo, but in the end, the diaphragm as it was 2.8 remained. You can only change the shutter speed. What could be the reason? Or did I come across such an instance? I would really appreciate answers and advice.

    • RussTamblyn

      Same problem! It allows programming only one aperture, then, if you do everything first and program another, then in mode A only the last one is available.

      • RussTamblyn

        Damn, you just had to carefully read the instructions!

        • anonym

          I bought with Avito without any instructions, can you retell?

          • RussTamblyn

            Cannot add comment!

          • RussTamblyn

            For the correct operation of the jumping aperture, first flush the maximum open aperture value into Dandelion using the 2.8 function. After that, use the following function to change the minimum aperture.

            Take 1 shot at aperture 40. The aperture on the screen will begin to change in a circle, ranging from F1 to F90. Choose your preferred aperture. Usually it is 16 or 22.

            Take one shot at your desired aperture. A dandelion will remember it and exit programming mode.

            After that, you can control the iris just like on an autofocus lens.

            • anonym

              Thanks for the answer, but I have Jupiter 37A.

              • RussTamblyn

                “1) no need to program
                2) the aperture is fixed. 1.4-2.8 is recommended. "
                This is the answer of Victor Lushnikov to my question by mail. As I understand it, you need to change the aperture on the lens, and the device itself selects the desired shutter speed in mode A, and you do not need to change the aperture on the device itself. I hope they correct me if I'm wrong.

              • anonym

                Russ Tamblyn!
                Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the answer and the hint, everything turned out exactly that way, only the shutter speed is selected in the "M" mode. Thanks again and all the best !!!

  • Denis

    Good afternoon!
    Tell me, I want to buy a lens for a Nikon film SLR with a chip installed on it. The question is - is it possible to remove this chip, is there a possibility that the lens will not “sit down” with it, or the aperture priority mode will not work, or are there any other problems? I have a camera without autofocus. Thanks in advance!

    • Onotole

      You don't need to shoot anything - most lenses are backward compatible with older cameras, and the ones that are not compatible - “removing the chip” (whatever that means) doesn't improve anything. What kind of lens indicate and you will be answered whether it will work normally or not.

      • Denis

        Nikkor 105mm 1: 2.5 Ai
        Nikon FA Camera

        • Onotole

          Moreover, 105mm 1: 2.5 Ai, there was neither a chip nor autofocus on it. Everything will work fine.

          • Denis

            Uv. Onotole, read my question again if you didn't understand right away. This lens has a chip (Lushnikov's dandelion) installed, and I'm afraid that it will somehow interfere with the operation of a non-autofocus camera or simply won't "stand" on it because of the chip (physically). Do you think I'm just writing in the topic about Lushnikov's dandelion? And about how you put it - "removing the chip" whatever that means.

        • Peter Sh.

          There are no contacts in the chamber, empty. Nothing should interfere with the installation of the lens.
          Because everything is set up by hand there, there will be no problems with metering either.
          The only thing is, if the chip was glued with the wrong glue that corrodes the plastic, then it will eventually fall off and could damage something inside. So my chips fell off two times

          • Denis

            Peter, thanks

  • Vldislav

    Tell me where is it better to buy a dandelion?

  • Eugene

    But I wonder why on my Nikon d3100 with a lens without a class D motor, focusing only works in the MF mode, that is, it is completely manual focus, but the green light in the video finder lights up when the focus is in focus. I thought that it would be possible to set other focus modes, such as AF-S and AF-A, press the button and turn it slowly until it worked. Is it really impossible on younger DSLRs with D lenses (I have a nikon 60mm macro D). And on Helios it worked with dandelion, but there is another problem, the focus was not accurate

    • Arkady Shapoval

      1. The letter D is responsible for the transmission of the focus distance
      2. This is an AF lens for cameras with a focus motor, to which the d3100 does not apply. The D3100 must use AF-S / AF-I lenses. These lenses have a built-in focus motor.
      3. The green dot, which confirms focusing, works with absolutely any lens, whether it is manual, motorless or modern AF-S. At the same time, the green dot works on absolutely all Nikon central control centers
      4. Dandelion imitates an AF-S type lens, and therefore the camera is deceived and thinks that an autofocus lens is installed on it and allows you to choose any available focusing method. In this case, the camera sends signals to the lens, thinking that it will be focused, but you still focus with your hands.
      5. Most likely you mean the lack of a focus trap with AF, NON-G type lenses. This is really a flaw in the Nikon system. At Pentax, for example, everything is much more logical.

  • Semen

    Explain to me, close. Where did you stick this wonderful dandelion if Helios 81n already has a Nikon bayonet? that is, it enters nikon without an adapter (on which, as I understand it, it is blown out and attached) I just don't understand ...

    • B. R. P.

      It was on this very Nikon's bayonet that they "stuck" it.

    • Arkady Shapoval

      Read the text

  • Dmitriy

    Nikon Z6 camera + FTZ adapter, Arsat 2/50 lens with dandelion. Previously used on D90, no problem. Aperture problem - working apertures from 2 to about 4 (visual). Although the camera sees focal, sees the entire aperture range from dandelion, focus confirmation works. I tried both the 2-32 range and the 2-16 range, no difference. Maybe someone knows how to fix the situation? By the way, the situation is similar with Sigma 18-35.

  • Anton

    Good evening! What adapter from the old Soviet M42 lens to the Nikon mount is needed for the Nikon F75 film lens? Moreover, the lens is an old super saturn-3 200mm - I have not found such a lens on the Internet, but it is similar to the OKS 1-150-1, only with an M42 thread. Now an adapter is needed for it so that you can remove it. Thanks in advance for the advice.

    • B. R. P.

      Is there any other mount on the film? Not the same as digital?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with a Nikon F mount, you need an M42-Nikon F adapter, you can buy such an adapter without a lens and a chip here, with a lens without a chip herewith chip without lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens? Why chip?

      • Anton

        thank you

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