MC Helios-81H 2/50 lens on the camera Nikon AF N8008s. Enlarge Image.
In short
MC Helios-81H 2/50 (or MC Helios-81H 2/50, or Arsat H 50mm 1: 2) - is one of the best standard lenses of Helios family... This lens is most often called a 'fifty-kopeck piece' because of the focal length of 50mm. On full-frame cameras (film and digital cameras with a frame size of 36 x 24 mm) it is standard (in terms of focal lengths and angle of view) and is suitable for everyday use for a wide range of tasks. Helios-81 can also be used as a portrait and creative lens on modern cropped cameras.
In my opinion, Helios-81 earned its popularity due to its compatibility with Nikon digital SLR cameras with Nikon F mount. The bulk of the lenses of the Helios-81 family do not require any adapters and work similarly to the original manual Nikon Nikkor AI / PRE-AI lenses. ...
Also, the popularity of the lens is associated with a special twist of the background, inherent in many lenses of the Helios family, as well as good optical capabilities at a fairly low cost. On average, Helios-81N can be found for $ 30.
Critical: there are many different variants of the lenses of the Helios-81 H / M / AUTOMAT family. If the latest versions are indeed some of the best stock lenses from Helios family, then early versions are the worst... Early versions are easily distinguished by their wide focusing ring and serial number near the front lens. These options have many mechanical problems. Later and better versions have a serial number in small print on the side of the aperture control ring. Here is such a paradox - from the best to the worst is just a step. I strongly advise against messing with these early versions (shown, for example, in the 'Appearance # 3' section). And also by no means do not purchase lenses marked 'AUTOMATIC'... Lenses series Helios-81N AUTOMATIC have a different mount, for which there are no adapters for any cameras (the appearance of lenses HELIOS-81 2/50/53 AUTOMATIC shown here). If something is not very clear, or if you want to be 100% sure that the future purchased lens will please you - ask here in the comments, or contact me according to my personal contacts.
It is difficult to overestimate the creative potential of such fifty dollars. Photo enthusiasts often use it as a portrait lens. Many people just want a fast prime, especially in addition to their stock / kit lens. Aperture F / 2 approx. three steps wider aperture of f / 5.6, which is used in 'dark' kit lenses at the long end. In numerical terms, this means that Helios-81 is approximately 8 times brighterthan, for example, whale Nikon DX VR AF-P Nikkor 18-55mm 1: 3.5-5.6Gwhich use a maximum relative aperture of only 50: 1 over a 5.6 mm focal length. The calculation of the difference in the relative aperture (count the aperture) is performed elementarily: (5.6 * 5.6) / (2 * 2) = 7.84, which is rounded to the value '8'.
History
Helios-81 is a descendant of the Helios-65 (HELIOS 65 AUTOMATIC 2/50), which, in turn, is a shortened descendant of the lenses family Helios-44.
The Helios-81 lens family includes many models and their modifications. In general, the development of the line proceeded as follows: Helios-81 AUTOMAT -> Helios-81 M or N -> MC Helios-81 M or N -> MC Helios-81 N -> Arsat H. Each of the modifications has several subversions.
For practical use, the latest versions of MC Helios-81 H (aka 'MC HELIOS 81 H') and Arsat are best suited for which the serial number is indicated in small print on the lens barrel, and not near the front lens.
Appearance # 1
Lens shown below MS HELIOS-81H 2/50 with serial number 9227112, presumably produced in 1992. The front and rear lenses of the objective have cyan, blue, lilac, violet and red anti-reflective shades.
Appearance # 2
Lens shown below MC HELIOS-81H 2/50 with serial number 9315003, presumably produced in 1993. The front lens of the objective has green, purple and red shades of enlightenment.
Appearance # 3
Lens shown below MS HELIOS-81M 2/53 with serial number 8204223, presumably produced in 1982. Filter diameter 49 mm. The front lens of the objective has blue, lilac, violet, red and yellow anti-reflective shades. The petals of the diaphragm are shiny, yellowish-orange (copper-colored). The focus ring rotates 315 degrees (7/8 of a full turn). Three intermediate clicks between F / 2 and F / 2.8 and two intermediate clicks between the other pairs of f-numbers (rare). Does not sit on without alteration Nikon D70, D70s, D80, D90... Nikon is installed on the rest of the CZK without problems. No protrusion for the diaphragm rheostat, with a long 'skirt' of the diaphragm control ring (but the skirt does not rest against the diaphragm rheostat). Nikon F mount, letter 'M' stands for 'M' blinking aperture.
Appearance # 4
Lens shown below ARSAT H 50mm 1: 2 with serial number 9417121, presumably produced in 1994. The front lens of the objective has green, purple and blue shades of enlightenment.
Appearance # 5
Lens shown below HELIOS-81N 2/53 with serial number 8309805, presumably produced in 1983. Filter diameter 49 mm. The front lens of the objective has bluish and ash shades of enlightenment. The diaphragm blades are shiny, silvery. The focus ring rotates 315 degrees (7/8 of a full turn). Three intermediate clicks between F / 2 and F / 2.8 and two intermediate clicks between the other pairs of f-numbers (rare). Does not sit on without alteration Nikon D70, D70s, D80, D90... Nikon is installed on the rest of the CZK without problems. No protrusion for the diaphragm rheostat, with a long 'skirt' of the diaphragm control ring (but the skirt does not rest against the diaphragm rheostat). Nikon F. mount.
Main technical specifications MC Helios-81H 2/50
| The name of the instance from the review (as it is written on the lens itself) | MC Helios-81H 2/50 with the logo of the Arsenal factory (there are a lot of other ways to write the name of the lens) |
| Basic properties |
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| Front Filter Diameter | 52 mm (there are options for 49 mm) |
| Focal length | 50 mm (according to some sources - 52 or 53 mm), EGF for cameras with an APS-C type sensor is approximately 75 mm |
| Zoom ratio | 1 x |
| Designed by | for film cameras with a frame size of 36 mm X 24 mm |
| Number of aperture blades | 6 petals. Petals form a hexagon of approximately the correct shape. Petals are dull metal, not blackened. |
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| Diaphragm | From F / 2 to F / 16.0, it is regulated by the aperture ring, there is no diaphragm operation method switch on the lens. The ring has one intermediate fixed value between the indicated pairs of numbers (between F / 11 and F / 16 there is no intermediate value). |
| MDF (minimum focusing distance) | 0.5 m, maximum magnification ratio is 1: 7 (approximately) |
| The weight | 214 grams measured without caps (lens itself only) |
| Optical design | 6 elements in 4 groups, ('Planar' type scheme)
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| Lens hood | screwed into the front filter, the original lens hood markings were not found. Any analogs are suitable, according to type of such |
| Manufacturer country | USSR, Arsenal plant (later the lens was produced under the 'Arsat' brand in Ukraine). |
| Period | Several years, the exact period of production is unknown. |
Lens modifications
Please note that there are many modifications of the lens and many spellings of its name. The main ones are:
'AUTOMATIC' versions
- Helios-81 2/50 Automatic - you can see an overview of this modification here
- Helios-81 2/53 Automatic - you can see an overview of this modification here
- Helios 81 2/50 Automatic (no dash between 'Helios' and '81')
Versions 'М 2/53'
- Helios-81М 2/53 with H-mount, metal silvery unblacked petals, you can see an overview of this modification here
- Helios-81М 2/53 H-mount, copper colored metal petals not blackened
- MS Helios-81M 2 /53 H-mount, copper-colored, unblacked metal petals (appearance # 3 from this review)
Versions 'H'
- MS Helios-81H 2/50 (with serial number near the front lens, long skirt of the aperture control ring, wide focusing ring)
- MS Helios-81N 2/50 (serial number from the bayonet side, short skirt of the diaphragm control ring, lilac enlightenment, one of the most common and classic options)
- MS Helios-81N 2/50 (serial number from the bayonet side, short skirt of the diaphragm control ring, green enlightenment, one of the most common and classic options)
- MS Helios-81N 2 /53 (appearance # 5 from this review)
- Helios-81Н 2/53 (analogue of Helios-81M 2/53)
- ARSAT H 1: 2 50mm - an almost complete copy of MC Helios-81N 2/50, the differences are described here
- MC Helios-81h 2/50 - full copy of MS Helios-81H 2/50, export version, this version looks like like this.
- MC Helios-81 2/50 - full copy of MC Helios-81N 2/50, export version
Other versions
- Helios-81 2/50
- Helios-81 2/52 (diaphragm ring on the front of the lens)
- Helios-81 (GK-81)
- GOI << HELIOS-81 >> 2 / 52,4 (silver metal case)
Just different names: ARSAT 1: 2 50mm МС ГЕЛИОС-81Н 2/50
Optically, they are the same lens. The difference between lenses with different names lies in different mounting threads or mounts, body rims, enlightenment and age. Many new lenses MS Helios-81Nreleased in Ukraine (after the collapse of the Union) are called Arsat. This review discusses one of the most popular lenses, namely MS Helios-81H 2/50.
View of the Helios-81N MS lens on a Canon EOS camera 350D Digital The lens is mounted using a cheap adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS.
As usual, the first thing you feel and pay attention when using the old lens is its weight, the lens is small, very short, it resembles a pancake. The weight of this “pancake” is quite large. The build quality is usual - a lot of metal and glass. The lens has no backlash.
Example photo on MS Helios-81N 2/50
Interesting: 81-H is read not as 81-'ash ', but as 81-'en'. Easy to remember 81-Nikon, as 'H' mount is Nikon F mount (Nikon F mount)
MS Helios 81-N produced at the Arsenal plants in Kiev or Uman in Ukraine. The lens used special lanthanum glasses - super-heavy crowns with high resolution, this allows you to partially get rid of chromatic aberrations.
So there are two versions of the Helios 81 lens
How to use with modern cameras
Nikon F-mount DSLRs
To use the Nikon MS Helios-81H 2/50 lens on Nikon DSLR cameras just install the lens without any adapters and shoot for your own pleasure without any tangible limitations. Possibility focusing on infinity, as well as semi-automatic iris control... This is due to the fact that MC Helios-81H 2/50 uses the same bayonet mount (mount type) as the native Nikon lenses. All lenses from cameras Kiev-17, Kiev-17m, Kiev-18, Kiev-19 and Kiev-19m, Kiev-20 use the Nikon F mount, the same as that of modern Nikon DSLRs. Some cameras will even have automatic metering exposure. Exact list of cameras that support metering exposure with manual lenses (such as this one) you can see here or here. For more information on how to use manual lenses, see my article. Soviet optics.
Important: although the lenses MC Helios-81N 2/50 have a protrusion for transmitting the aperture value to the camera through the aperture rheostat (copy AI Nikkor Lenses), while the diaphragm skirt may be too long (like PRE-AI Nikkor Lenses) because some Lenses Helios-81 2/50 without additional modification cannot be installed on modern Nikon DSLR cameras. Some can only be installed on a specific list of cameras. To treat such a disease can be very simple - just cut off part of the diaphragm control ring, as shown in the figure by Sergei Elizarov here.
It's important: if you come across a lens that does not sit on your camera and you don’t want to cut it, you can still easily use the lens on any Nikon DSLR with macro rings... MC Helios-81N 2/50 can be easily installed on any Nikon F cameras via Any extension tube for Nikon F-mount cameras... However, this loses the ability to focus to infinity and medium focusing distances.
Important: to immediately find a variant of MC Helios-81H 2/50, which can work on any Nikon F-mount SLR camera, you need to look for lens options with the name MC Helios-81H 2/50 (or MC HELIOS-81H 2/50) and without a serial numbers near the front lens, as well as any lens variants with the modern name ARSAT.
Important: if something is not clear, or there is a desire to clarify - write in the comments under this review, I and other readers will try to suggest.
Nikon 1 mirrorless cameras
To use the lens on a series of mirrorless cameras Nikon 1 (Nikon 1S1, Nikon 1S2, Nikon 1 V1, Nikon 1 V2, Nikon 1 V3, Nikon 1 J1, Nikon 1 J2, Nikon 1 J3, Nikon 1 J4, Nikon 1 J5, Nikon 1 AW1) use the adapter Nikon F - Nikon 1. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
Important: there are no problems with any versions of Helios-81 for Nikon F mount (Nikon 'N') and any corresponding adapters.
Nikon Z mirrorless cameras
To use the lens on a series of mirrorless cameras Nikon Z use an original Nikon FTZ adapter.
You can use any inexpensive Chinese analogue, for example, such an adapter Nikon AI -> Nikon Z.
Important: there are no problems with any versions of Helios-81 for Nikon F mount (Nikon 'N') and any corresponding adapters.
Canon (EF, M, RF)
In order to install MC Helios-81N 2/50 on any modern digital SLR camera Canon EOS, you will need to use the adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS. Possibility focusing on infinity saved. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS EF (aka Nikon AF-> Canon EF) easy to buy here.
It's important: all lenses of the Helios-81H family (with 'H' / 'Nikon F' mount), regardless of the year of manufacture and the features of the mount, can be installed on any camera without any problems Canon EOS using the specified adapter Nikon mount F - Canon EOS EF (aka Nikon AI-> Canon EF).
To use the lens on mirrorless cameras series Canon EOS M use adapter Nikon F - Canon EOS M (aka Nikon AI-Canon M). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
To use the lens on mirrorless cameras Canon EOS R series, use an adapter Nikon F - Canon EOS R (aka Nikon AI-> Canon RF). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
Sony (A, E)
Using the lens with SLR cameras Sony (DSLRs as well as SLT cameras with a translucent mirror) is difficult. For use, an adapter with a corrective lens should be used, which may negatively affect the image quality. If you still want to use MC Helios-81N 2/50 on cameras Sony / Minolta with A-mount, use the adapter Nikon F - Sony A. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
To use the lens on mirrorless cameras Sony NEX, Sony ILCE, Sony ALPHA with Sony E mount or Sony FEjust use an inexpensive adapter Nikon F - Sony E. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here... Also available for these cameras autofocus adapter Techart PRO Leica M - Sony E Autofocus Adapterwhich can be found at this link.
FUJIFILM (X, GFX)
X-mount mirrorless cameras require an adapter Nikon F -> Fuji X (aka AI-> X). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
For mirrorless medium format cameras with mount GFX need adapter Nikon F -> Fuji GFX (aka AI-> GFX). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA (L, M)
An adapter is required for mirrorless cameras with Leica L mount (T, TL, SL) Nikon F -> Leica L (aka AI-> L). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here. For cameras with a Leica M mount need adapter Nikon F -> Leica M (aka AI-> M).
PENTAX
Using a lens with Pentax SLR cameras is difficult. For use, an adapter with a correction lens should be used, which can adversely affect image quality. If you still want to use Helios-81H 2/50 MC on Pentax cameras with K mount (and its modifications), then you should use the adapter Nikon F - Pentax K. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here... The same goes for a mirrorless camera. Pentax K-01.
To use the lens on Pentax mirrorless cameras with Pentax Q mount (Pentax Q, Pentax Q10, Pentax Q7, Pentax Q-s1)just use an inexpensive adapter Nikon F - Pentax Q. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
Samsung (NX)
NX mount mirrorless cameras require an adapter Nikon F -> Samsung NX (aka AI-> NX). The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here. For the camera Nx mini adapters do not exist yet.
OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK / XIAOMI (mirrorless, MICRO 4/3)
To use the lens on mirrorless cameras OLYMPUS/PANASONIC/KODAK/ XIAOMI (and some others) with a Micro 4/3 mount, it is enough to use an inexpensive adapter Nikon F - MICRO 4/3. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / LEICA (mirrors, 4/3)
For SLR cameras with a 4/3 mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) An adapter is required Nikon F-> 4/3. The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com. For example, such an adapter can be easily purchased. here.
Attention! Lenses of the HELIOS AUTOMAT series
Very important: the lenses Helios-81 2/50 AUTOMATIC и Helios-81 2/53 AUTOMATIC cannot be used with modern cameras. Simply there are no corresponding adapters. Attackers often give out Helios-81 2/50 Automatic (a review of this modification you can see here) и Helios-81 2/53 Automatic (a review of this modification you can see here) for the lens MC Helios-81N 2/50. Be attentive!
Sample photos on Nikon DX (APS-C, crop 1.5X)
Below are my photos for different modifications of the Helios-81 / Arsat H lens:
Jpeg source photos watch and / or download here (200+ photos on Nikon D40).
Sample photos on MC Helios-81H and Nikon FX (full frame, Full Frame)
All photos were taken on a Helios-81N MC and a full-frame camera Nikon D700 FX no processing. Reduced size to 1920 * 1080 pixels and imprinted data from EXIF.
UPDATED
Photographer shared examples of photos on MC Helios-81N 2/50 with readers of Radozhiva Lilia Nemykina:
My experience
I like Helios-81N, with it you can feel the spirit of Soviet lenses, get nice shots and feel like a real manual technician (a photographer who uses manual lenses).
Unfortunately, I must state the fact that in general this fifty kopeck piece loses in many respects to any autofocus similar lens. Helios-81N is very popular, but still, if possible, I recommend using autofocus fifty dollars. Some of them, for example, Nikon 50 / 1.8 AF MKI / II / III (D) (for cameras with a focus motor) or Yongnuo 50 / 1.8 (for any Nikon cameras) are only slightly more expensive than the Helios-81N.
Video review
My video review of the Helios-81 lens family with examples of photos you can see on my Youtube channel, or in the video below:
Results
Latest modifications of Helios 81H - some of the best standard Soviet high-aperture lenses... First of all, Helios 81H is interesting for its twisted bokeh, compact size and low cost. Among the shortcomings, one should single out the difficulty in searching for the “latest” MS modifications and an unblacked diaphragm.
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The first two portraits are simply masterpieces! Sometimes I open this review just to admire them.
Hello Arkady!
Thank you for your great and very interesting work!
According to your story, I purchased the NIKON D40. I had HELIOS-81N.
Please help me understand how the chip will help me if I stick it on the lens?
Thank you very much in advance for your reply!
Basil.
With a chip it will work like a native with the autofocus motor turned off. Read about dandelion and all clients.
Thank you too - KalekseyG, I draw your attention to the NIKON D40 has no autofocus motor !?
Just don't convert me. I know perfectly well who has what. I wrote “like a native with the autofocus motor off”. This was a short description of the chip's capabilities.
The camera will be able to see the lens with the chip, and it will be possible to shoot in modes other than M. Fotyk will be able to automatically set the correct exposure at 2.0 aperture. For other aperture values, you need to enter an exposure compensation, or set the exposure pair through live view (in d40 it seems to be absent).
I took a hundred three, I love manual metal) all 3 have their own nuances. different holes on the same aperture values are visually visible, on one oil, metal shavings. there are small scratches or spots ms, but, most importantly, everything is equally sharp starting from open and plastic, real glass!
one export, helios is written, with a brilliant aperture - normally not scary.
nice "must-have" bonus for nikon users.
with characteristic twist
Do not know on SIGMA 15 e
will that lens fit?
try-must!)
I even fit my summilux 35! ...)
but in general to any mirror Nikon.
like a native.
will work with focus confirmation.
Hello! Please tell me, is it possible to mount this lens on any of the Zenith film cameras? Or are they not compatible?
Only to Kiev mirror
Hello. The other day I bought a Helios 3100 N. lens on my Nikon D81. I'm still new to photography and want to ask if there are chips or dandelions so that it works not only in M mode and that autofocus works? Or it is not real.
Look for “Lushnikov's dandelion”. There was information on Radozhiv as well. Previously, they were sold in Simferopol, now I don't know.
Metering will work with the 'dandelion' - it will be possible to shoot in A 'mode. Autofocus will not work in any way, the lens is Not_Autofocus. Anyway, you have to do focusing with your hands.
Helios-81N F2 50mm MS without dandelion and Nikon D700. In aperture priority mode, pictures are underexposed. What is the problem?
Most likely in the nonlinearity of the skipping rope. If the pictures on F / 2.0 also have the wrong exposure, then perhaps change the manual lens settings in the camera menu.
even on the open underexposed (you have to introduce a correction of +0.7). In the menu "Lens without CPU" 50 F2 is set
This is already strange. There may be several reasons, but it is difficult to guess right away.
Arkady, tell me, please, what other reasons could there be, offhand :)
Look at the aperture when attaching the lens - does it cover up?
Open or covered? On a covered one, you need to enter exposure compensation, because the “slider” inaccurately conveys the f-number to the rheostat of the carcass (you can observe for yourself what F the carcass shows and what value is set on the lens) + the inaccuracy of closing the aperture is added.
Tell me whether it is possible to use the tamron lens for sony alpha with a nikon d200 camera
Either saw, or he adaptall, and then you can buy Nikonovskaya mount.
You can not.
Where can you buy a good Helios-81N lens for 10 - 30 USD? ???
The price is usually from 50 USD. For 10-30 USD it is not uncommon to find specimens upon examination of which defects are found. Be careful. Helios-81M are sold a little cheaper, which can also be with MS and in no way be inferior to MS Helios 81H. Both (once again - both) lenses have a Nikon mount (hence the name H) and a blinking aperture (hence the name of some lenses instead of H is M).
I bought for ~ 24 $ at a regular bazaar, at a flea market, from a container. The lens came with a Kiev-19 camera in a hard case. Everything is in perfect condition. True, the diaphragm is thick in grease. Shortened the spring, it got better, but it still gets stuck sometimes. On the Internet, prices are usually higher, but anything happens).
I bought Arsat, he is Helios, everything is fine, but after a while the diaphragm between the two stops began to work incorrectly (I don't remember which ones, but this does not change the essence of the matter), I noticed, because with the same settings in the same shooting conditions, the photos became come out incorrectly exposed. After removing the lens and scrolling the aperture ring, looking inside the lens, I saw that between two stops, the aperture physically simply does not change - the ring on the lens scrolls smoothly, as expected, but the petals did not change their position. When moving to the next stop, they started working again, but in what value - the previous stop, which was skipped or exposed, I don't know, I have a camera without exposure metering with Helios. I bought it in the store, and they changed me without any questions. They offered to repair it for free, but I decided to pay extra and take my own 50 1.8.
This is because problems can still be without lens drops and other troubles, and this can also cause incorrect exposure. The camera (or photographer) focuses on the set aperture value, but in fact, the petals opened at a different value.
Good day, Arkady! I am depriving myself of fixing my photographs. I have Nikon D90 and Gelios-81N. When you take a photo, you can get some chervonuvatie images. At Lightroom, it is necessary to apply a skin tint with a tint. Tse ob'єktiv to give such tones? I'm so reasonable, is there a need for a light filter? Dyakuyu.
The lens does not give perfect colors, but here the trouble in setting the d90 is more likely. A couple of solutions:
1. pick the “Tint” correction in the “Control Mode” settings. Pictures "
2. to pick out the white balance and its displacement
3. for LR put a satisfying profile under the camera (the same from d2x mode 1 rolls)
Do not get drunk with someone Helios 81N, so that I can sell it cheaply, I bought the first DSLR and I want to try a fast lens?
Helios 81N do not need to be cut, it fits without modifications
He meant "not gathering dust" :)
Oh, wrong….
81H is usually sold for 2,5-3 thousand. For 4,2 thousand on Ali, you can take the new Yongnuo 50mm with autofocus, working F1.8 and automatic exposure metering. Actually, I recommend it.
No, on OLH 600-1000 hryvnias costs Helios 81 N
Arkady, Hello, I recently bought a Helios 81N MS lens on a Nikon D3200 camera. When I take a picture on f2, the aperture of millimeters 2 or 3 closes why. Now my question is, can I completely cut off my skirt from Helios 81N MS, I'm just afraid that suddenly it will ruin the lever from the camera. If you cut the skirt it will work? thanks in advance
Here it is not a skirt, but a pusher mechanism. Most likely it closes after shooting, this is such a glitch, described by me here.
As I understand it, it will lead in all fixes, how should it be to me, is it harmful to the camera?
I still went to a friend he has the same Nikon d3200, and now he has the same problem, I insert Helios 81N MS at f2 and 7 times clicked the aperture closes when shooting at 1-2 mm. Then he inserted f2,8, it closed somewhere around f4. How do I understand these features of the nikon camera?
If the aperture twitches after taking a shot, do not pay attention. What matters to you is how the lens works during shooting. If the frame is correct, then everything is fine.
All the same, I want to cut down so that I would not twitch, I think there will be nothing from this.
I sawed. He ensured that when installing the diaphragm was not covered. And you can disassemble and adjust the position of the slider. Perhaps your lens was disassembled or crookedly assembled initially.
Goodnight
I read the discussion Nikon D7000 on the forum, I found such an interesting info, quote:
“7000 DD higher due to the matrix size of 16 MP. Because of her dear, you will hardly use old film (cheap, high-quality and beautiful) lenses ”
Is it true? For, as far as I am aware of film optics, should the helios resolution be enough for normal sharpness and detail at 16mp, or am I wrong?
Are right. Even at 24MP crop it is quite sharp already with an open aperture.
Guys, I have a problem. set 81n on the D80 in m mode, but the aperture does not work. sliders and cameras and glass are working, and in symbiosis KLock writes. what to do?
Hello!
Already rolled over your reviews of various lenses. I want to ask only one question. If you compare Nikon 50mm 1.8g and Helios 81n, who has more interesting bokeh, in your opinion?
It seems to me that Nikonovsky has a softer and smoother bokeh. What about helios? Would you recommend Nikon fifty dollars to buy helios for bokeh? Or is the difference not so significant?
I apologize if a similar question has already been raised.
I forgot to note that the camera is a cropped matrix.
Do not, use your own good lens. Helios-81N will not do a miracle, but it will add troubles.
They are too different. What is “more interesting than bokeh” for you may not be interesting for others.
In terms of quality and convenience, Nikonovsky is undoubtedly better. With Helios, you can get a watercolor-swirling background (even on a crop), depending on the objects in the background and the distance to them. See characteristic pictures and compare.
If the G81N is sold at a low price - you can buy it, you will suddenly like it.
I do not recommend, especially if on a cropped camera.
Thank you so much for the advice. My adventurous attitude about lenses calmed down. Focus on Nikon and work wonders. Thanks.
There was an opportunity to take this lens. But I do not understand, write, it seems, sharp. A photo of the majority of soap. Does it bother me alone? Take already got sick.
It depends on what you compare it to. If with the same buckets, then sharp, if with TOP lenses - a trash heap.
And you will not test before purchase? They would have decided.
From my personal experience of photographing with Nikon D700, D200, D7100 cameras, I can say that the Helios 81N 50/2 lens works well as a manual lens, provided that the camera viewfinders are adjusted. As a rule, the “matte viewfinder” is suitable only for auto focus lenses for selecting a scene and does not allow precise aiming with manual optics. I used a combined viewfinder with wedges and a raster of the Arsenal plant from the Kiev-20 and 17 cameras with appropriate adjustment to the required size and adjustment (additional spacers for the viewfinder). After revision, the camera viewfinder allows you to quickly and very accurately focus on the focus with any manual lens, inclusive with the aperture F4. Modified camera viewfinders allow you to take a fresh look at the quality of optics, both Soviet manual and foreign ones. By the way, fairy tales that Nikon D 7100 requires very high-quality optics due to the high resolution of the matrix are scattered after adjusting the camera viewfinder. its autofocus does not work well even after careful adjustment (the very principle of its operation). If I need to shoot, I probably only shoot manual (the entire line of Nikon-d, Sigma EX, Nikon-non AI, Arsenalskaya, Planar 50 / 1,4 ZF2).
Good day.
How will he show himself with mirrorless footwear?
As well as with mirror crop, including from this article. Only there will be no problems with determining the exposure, and focusing with your hands will be easier through the auxiliary functions of the camera. With aperture cover up to F2.8 and stronger, there will be a more or less decent result. For the street it is better to buy a hood.
how friends with panas g6 micro 4: 3 ???
There was this lens, lasted about two weeks and was sold after shooting, because it did not justify trust))) I shot it with three lenses and Helios 81n gave the worst result. For Nikon owners, I can say that it is slightly better than Nikon 50 1.8d, I would say that it is sharper, but not really far (I do not take bokeh) if you have money, take something better. For mirrorless owners, I would not I began to use it, there are more interesting lenses in this price category, for example, Minolta 50 1.7, etc.
A question to the owners of both lenses Nikon 50 / 1.8G and Helios-81H. How often do you use Helios? I used my own several times a year, but having acquired Nikon, I doubt the need for it. I look at old photos - where the focus is not accurate, where the bokeh draws the eye. I thought about selling it.
all the same, the lens is for "full frame" and shows the picture on the "full frame" subjectively better than on the crop ...
It's not about that, but about the need for its presence. At full frame, it becomes standard if I switch to FF I have for portraits 105 / 2.5. It's about whether it is needed in the presence of 50 / 1.8. Which, after all, is also for full-frame cameras and also with a slight torsion of the background. The difference in the picture of the subject did not notice, only in the bokeh. But sometimes in portraits it is too distracting, as for me. You look not at the portrait, but at him.
Sell and don’t bother) At FF it is also not outstanding, I think it will be interesting only to fans of twisted boke)))