MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5 Lens Overview

MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5 - one of the most massive Soviet televisions... After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Arsenal plant in Kiev continued to produce the Granit-11 lens under the Arsat brand. Granit-11M and ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5 are one and the same lens.

View MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5

View MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5

Please note that there are two versions of the Granite-11 lens. Granite-11N and Granite-11M. The first, Granite-11N, has an N-type bayonet mount, as with Kiev-19 cameras and the like. The N mount is the same as the Nikon mount F, so if you have a Nikon camera, the Granite-11N lens will mount on the camera without adapters. You can see the review MC Granite-11N F4,5 80-200mm (Or ZOOM ARSAT H 1: 4.5 80-200mm)


I got the Ukrainian copy of Arsat, on which “Made in Ukraine” is proudly written.

When working in the lens, the first thing that pay attention is its weight, almost a kilogram (950) grams. All made of iron and glass - in the style of old technology. Massiveness inspires confidence, although the quality of the pictures is a little disappointing.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5


How to use with modern cameras?

Lenses with mounting thread M42 (M42 X 1 / 45.5), such as the lens from this review, are very easy to use on almost any modern digital camera (both SLR and mirrorless), for this it is enough to choose the right adapter (adapter). You do not need to carry out any additional steps to modify the lens.

The cheapest adapters can be found aliexpress.com... There are adapters (adapters) with a chip that provide more convenience during shooting, usually chips are used to confirm focus and / or metering exposure, and form the correct EXIF. The chip does not affect the image quality in any way.

For some SLR cameras (for example, Nikon F) it is necessary to use adapters with a corrective lens, which allows correct focusing at all focusing distances. For any mirrorless camera, such a lens is not needed, and the adapter is a simple decorated hollow metal tube with an appropriate mount.

For SLR cameras

  1. CANON: For cameras Canon EOS with bayonet mount EF / EF-S need an M42-Canon EOS adapter, such an adapter with a chip can be found herewithout chip here.
  2. NIKON: For cameras Nikon DX / FXas well as for cameras Fujifilm и Kodak with a Nikon F mount, you need an M42-Nikon F adapter, you can buy such an adapter without a lens and a chip here, with a lens without a chip herewith chip without lens here, with lens and chip here. Why a lens? Why chip?
  3. PENTAX: For cameras Pentax with mount K you need an adapter M42-Pentax K, you can buy such an adapter here.
  4. SONY / MINOLTA: For cameras with a Sony / Minolta A mount, you need the M42-Sony A adapter, you can find such an adapter without a chip at this linkwith a chip at this link.
  5. OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with a 4/3 bayonet mount (not to be confused with Micro 4/3!) You need an M42-4 / 3 adapter, you can buy such an adapter here.

For mirrorless cameras

  1. SONY: For cameras with an 'E' series mount Sony NEX и Sony Alpha you need an adapter M42-Sony E (aka M42-Sony Nex), you can find it at this link. An autofocus adapter is also available for these cameras. Techart PRO Leica M - Sony E Autofocus Adapterwhich can be found at this link.
  2. OLYMPUS / PANASONIC / KODAK /  XIAOMI: For cameras with a Micro 4/3 bayonet mount (Micro 4: 3), you need the M42-Micro 4/3 adapter, you can find it at this link.
  3. CANON M: For cameras with a bayonet mount Canon EF-M need adapter M42-Canon M, it can be found at this link.
  4. CANON R: For cameras with a bayonet mount Canon r need adapter M42-Canon R, it can be found at this link.
  5. NIKON 1: For cameras Nikon 1 Series need adapter M42-Nikon 1, you can find it at this link.
  6. NIKON Z: For series cameras Nikon Z need adapter M42-Nikon Z, it can be found at this link.
  7. FUJIFILM X: For cameras with mount X need an M42-Fuji X adapter, you can find it at this link.
  8. FUJIFILM GFX: For medium format cameras G-mount need M42-Fuji GFX adapter, you can find it at this link.
  9. SAMSUNG: For cameras with NX mount need adapter M42-Samsung NX, you can find it at this link. For the camera Nx mini adapters do not exist yet.
  10. PENTAX: For cameras with Q mount need an adapter M42-Pentax Q, you can find it at this link.
  11. SIGMA / PANASONIC / LEICA: For cameras with L mount, you need the M42-Leica L adapter, you can find it at this link.
  12. LEICA: For cameras with a Leica M mount need adapter M42-L / M, you can find it at this link.

If you have any questions on compatibility and adapters - ask in the comments (comments do not require any registration at all).

A lot of lenses (including exclusive models) with M42 mounting thread (M42 X 1 / 45.5) can be found at ebay.

 

View of the diaphragm pusher of the lens MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5

View of the diaphragm pusher of the lens MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5

Personally, I just fixed it with a foil, as shown in the picture below. In this position, you can control the iris in manual mode using the iris ring on the lens.

View of the diaphragm pusher after modernization

View of the diaphragm pusher after modernization


The main positive points in the lens MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5:

1. Weight - weight avoids a lot of jitter, with my camera it gives a normal mass distribution between the camera and the lens. Larger weight is very important for handheld shooting, as the mass of the lens and camera reduces hand shake.

2. Internal Zoom - it is very convenient when you change the focal length, the lens does not extend and does not retract the trunk (as in ordinary zooms). The mechanism moves only inside the tube. Nowadays, the multiplicity of the internal zoom is greatly appreciated.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

3. Long stroke of the focusing ring - the stroke of the ring reaches about 320 degrees, has a very smooth stroke, a very positive thing for thoughtful shooting. The smooth movement of the focus ring allows you to accurately focus on sharpness.

4. Manual aperture setting - A convenient thing, but to use it, you need to lock the aperture in the pressed mode, as shown in the figures a little higher.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

5. MS - multilayer enlightenment, in fact, I still do not feel the virtues, but it gives a nice color to the front lens. In fact, it gives a reflection coefficient of about 0.2, which means that 80% of the light passes to the camera’s matrix, and is not reflected from the lens glasses. Also, MS helps fight back and side light.

6. Constant aperture 4.5 - relatively light telephoto, no need to bother when changing the focal length. Constant aperture for a zoom lens, this is a very important parameter. At 200mm, the F4.5 aperture makes the lens an excellent portrait lens. For example, a lens Nikon 55-200 f / 4-5.6G IF-ED AF-S DX VR Zoom-Nikkor on the same 200mm has aperture 1.6 times less than Arsat.

7. Zoom 2.5 times from 80 to 200mm, a pretty nice side, because it is so popular. When used on a cropped Nikon DX matrix, the viewing angle is obtained as for a 120-300mm lens for 35mm film. More details in the article about crop factor.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5


The main negative aspects

1. There is no mount under a tripod or monopod.

2. When you change the focal length, the focus is lost - although I personally read in the instructions that it is not lost, most likely this is due to the use of an adapter.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

3. When focusing, the lens lengthens quite a lot and the front lens rotates. This removes all the superiority of internal zoom and interferes with the use of various filters.

4. Large - Hard to fit in my camera bag. It should be noted that the closer the focal length, the farther out the “trunk” protrudes. Once I did not return it to the position of focusing at infinity, and for a long time I wondered why it no longer fits in my photo bag.

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

5. Average photo quality - low contrast, afraid of side and back light. Sharpness is rather weak.

6. The number of aperture blades is only 6 pieces, when you change the aperture, it feels like the blades go randomly. Petals metal (white), add extra bunnies.


All sample photos in this review were taken on the MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm F4.5, released in 1995 and camera Nikon D90.

Bokeh on Arsat 80-200

Bokeh on Arsat 80-200



It is also worth noting that the rear lens remains in place when focusing and zooming, thereby avoiding the effect of a vacuum cleaner on the interior of the chamber. Due to the fact that infinity is lost on the Nikon system when using a lensless adapter, the best use of the lens is in portraits. The lens gives a good picture, removes small skin defects, the main thing is to focus on the eyes, since the depth of field at F4.5 is very small. Also, when shooting, it is advisable to set rich photo mode, since the lens suffers a little yellowness and gives a little contrast. You can read more detailed information. about shooting mode settings.


Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5

Sample photo on Arsat 80-200 F4.5


Catalog modern brand lenses 'Zenitar' и 'Helios' can look at this link.

In the comments, you can ask a question on the topic and they will answer you, as well as you can express your opinion or describe your experience. For the selection of photographic equipment, I recommend large catalogs, for example E-Catalog. Many little things for the photo can be found on AliExpress.


conclusions
The Arsat 80-200mm F4,5 is a rather interesting lens in terms of its parameters, but in fact, the sharpness of the picture fails very much, perhaps this is due to this particular instance, but still I would like the best.

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Comments: 72, on the topic: MC ZOOM ARSAT M 80-200mm 4.5 lens overview

  • anonym

    4 paragraph: When working “in” the lens ...
    one copy)

  • Vladimir

    Good day people, tell me pliz who knows if there is a lens hood on this lens, otherwise I was tempted to cover the lens with my back and side light.

    • Lynx

      any plastic or rubber hood with a thread on m49 .. or m52 - must be measured on the objective.
      I recommend a foldable rubber one - it is more comfortable to wear and protects if anything.

  • Vladimir

    Help, a bolt broke in the diaphragm mechanism. It is advisable to jump from hand to hand.

  • Alexander

    Tell me, please, how can I find out the year of manufacture of such a lens? By serial number?

  • Vladimir

    I can’t go to manual aperture adjustment mode. After several turns of the diaphragm ring, it remains at the maximum open position. I just have not tried it. Maybe someone came across or throw an idea? Thanks anyway.

  • Hsien

    > My copy has an M42 insert thread, which I got
    > to him from the Zenith camera to install it on a digital mirror
    > Nikon camera (in other words, with Nikon mount),
    > you will need to use the M42-Nikon adapter,
    > this loses focus at infinity. … ..
    > Personally, I have no problem using Arsat on Nikon d90 and Nikon d40.

    Strange description:

    On the one hand - “I use Arsat on Nikon d90 and Nikon d40 without any problems.”
    On the other hand, "the focus at infinity is lost."

    But is the loss of infinity is no longer considered a problem?

  • Hsien

    The review says nothing about the rotation of the front lens when focusing.

    • Hsien

      ... And it seems that it will not be said so ...

      • Sergei

        The lens rotates, so when using polarizing filters, you will have to re-adjust the effect of the polarizer.

  • Sergei

    Why take pictures at F4,5 aperture? Of course, at an open aperture of 4.5, the sharpness of the lens is a bit disappointing. Is it impossible to cover the aperture ratio to 8? The sharpness of the lens in this case will charm.

  • Ne dobro

    Will there be infinity with the 700D? Will a simple adapter work?

    • Arkady Shapoval

      yes it will. Yes, simple will do.

      • Ne dobro

        Thank you.

      • Ne dobro

        good afternoon. bought myself this miracle eye. in one word - Fire! ))

  • Sergei

    By the way, when changing the focal length, sharpness is not lost. I use without an adapter on the D-3100.

  • Nedobro

    Please tell me which body converter to buy for this Arsat?

  • anonym

    As for me, this is a pleasant, correct contrast. We got used to the juicy colors “pluck out your eyes”.

  • Valery

    I am crushed misyats. Satisfaction. Dyysno, when the diaphragms are 8 - there are even more good signs. There are no problems with polarity.

  • anonym

    ARSAT H 80-200 4.5
    SHARP SHARP

  • Tanya

    Tell me, pliz, will work with an adapter on a film MINOLTA X700?

  • Nicholas.

    I had one, bought in the year of the Olympic Games in 1980. The very first I succumbed to the temptation to buy after reading its description in the magazine “Soviet Photo”, I don't remember the number ...
    It was simply called “Granit-11N”. Built-in retractable metal hood, manual locking diaphragm, no multilayer coating (MC).
    At that time, a zoom lens was a rarity, the last squeak of technological achievement of the mechano-optical industry of the USSR.
    When the focal length is changed, the sharpness is not disturbed, it is afraid of backlight, the resolution is mediocre. In a word, nothing outstanding besides the constructive - all from metal. In all honesty, I wouldn’t buy such a lens now, I don’t want to ... even with a surcharge.

  • Denis

    Please help me, I don't understand anything, I clamp the diaphragm pusher, only from the inside. I met a video on YouTube where a guy squeezes it with a small piece from a ballpoint pen. His video clearly shows that everything works. I disassembled it several times, picked up the ring, and nothing happens anyway, the diaphragm does not work in the end.
    Help, can anyone tried it, knows what's the matter. And one more thing ... Is it possible, without buying an additional ring with a lens, how to adjust the loss of focus to infinity?
    Fotik - Canon.

    • B. R. P.

      Maybe the spring is loose or the petals are seizing, from excess lubricant, for example. On Canon, infinity and so it should be.

      • Denis

        As for the spring - it's hard to say, I already do this and that. But with infinity - a fact. Due to the adjustment ring, despite the fact that there is only a millimeter of thickness, focusing to infinity is lost. Alas. I just don’t want to buy an extra corrective lens ring yet. There, more often than not, the reviews are not very good, saying that the picture ends up “soaping”.
        Why fact? Because if you just attach a lens, without a ring, focusing at infinity appears.
        It's a pity that you just have to use the lens itself by 50%. I somehow got used to not being able to use a diaphragm, but still, it's better with it than without it. But most of all is over - the impossibility of focusing on infinity ... = (

        • Rodion

          Remove or grind off the alignment pad and that's it.

      • Denis

        Disassembled, oiled. Modified the thought a little, and clamped the pusher from the outside. But still, with infinity, I still cannot decide anything. Lack of technical skills.

  • Sergei

    They gave me Granite-11 with Kiev-10 bayonet. There is a desire to remake it for the Nikon mount, but I'm afraid to screw something up. Thoughts revolve about installing the T2 adapter. Question! Has anyone done this? Or maybe he knows how someone did it and will give a link on the net. This is me not from need, this is me from interest and curiosity. Thank you in advance.

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